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39 minutes ago, lololol said:

She left her child because she's a MAJOR selfish b.

It would be good tv if she would open up about this in an honest way.  Mothers do leave their children but it's pretty rare (I think?) and many moms can't fathom the thought process.  Much as I enjoy judging Kyle and LVP when they're being mean girls,  I can always feel a bond with them on a deep level because of the way they've prioritized their children. OTOH the last straw for me with Kim was the way I heard her talk to her adult children when she thought nobody was listening on Dr. Phil.  It would be interesting to hear what Erika's motives were when she left her child to go to LA.

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On ‎3‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 6:48 PM, HunterHunted said:

I think she was fully aware of just how competitive she wasn't in New York. You've got Juilliard and Tisch as well as a number of other really well regarded schools and programs there. Erika can't really sing or dance. She doesn't write her own songs. She's a decent, but not great actress. She's attractive, but not stunning.

Sherry Stringfield, Viola Davis, Cynthia Nixon, Alison Janney, Idina Menzel, Kristen Chenoweth, Sharon Leal, Nia Long, Kathryn Erbe, Lauren Velez, Michelle Forbes, and many other actresses who are roughly Erika's age were working on plays and soaps in New York at the same time that she would have been. I think Erika saw that she was out of her league in New York and decided to cut bait.

This isn't to say that people in LA don't care about talent, but they are willing to weight it less heavily if an actor is really attractive. It's the 20th anniversary of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I am still astounded by how successful David Boreanaz is considering how bad he was for the first two seasons of Buffy. He was actively abysmal and had maybe a year of acting classes when he booked the role. He was "discovered" when someone saw him walking his dog and gave his name a producer. In the dvd commentary, Joss Whedon talks about how awful he was, but how every woman who saw him swooned.

To get back to my point, I think Erika was fully aware that there are many more opportunities like that in LA. Contrasting Erika with Kyle, Kyle basically has never stopped acting even when Mauricio's career took off. Erika barely worked, married money bags, and suddenly decided to become a pop star. From the outside it looks like she was never particularly passionate about acting, singing, dancing, or performing. She comes across as a dilettante who is using money bags to fund her newest hobby.

The short, fat, ugly money bags with a small weenie.

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I am really tired of EG constantly dropping names of designers, how expensive her things are, and how it costs so much to drag her glam squad around.  Most people learn when they are very young that it is not polite to do that.  If she didn't, one would think her husband might have mentioned it to her.

If she's going to spend so much on a glam squad, she should hire some people with modern, fresh ideas to style her.  Although people like that may not kiss up to her the way her current, dated-look people do.

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I can't believe she takes her glamquad to all her personal trips. WTF..It's not like she hasn't figured out hair and make up before she married Tom. I can see for special occasions having everything done up. But on the daily? Naw.......

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On 3/13/2017 at 1:17 AM, Jextella said:

Wait.  How'd I miss Erica's back story?  She left her kid when he was a toddler?!?!?!

Here's an article from last season: http://www.allaboutthetea.com/2016/03/16/rhobh-meet-erika-girardis-ex-husband-son-photos/

And another: http://www.allaboutthetea.com/2016/03/15/erika-girardi-abandons-3-year-old-to-seek-life-of-a-gold-digger-in-l-a/

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Her timeline reads:

1989 (age 18): Erika moves to NYC.

1995/96 (age 24–25): By now, Erika has  been married, divorced, and has a 3-year-old son, born in 1992. She moves to L.A.—alone. After a year of serving Tom Girardi drinks, she hits on him and they become an item.

1999: Erika and Tom get married, after living together. Her son, around 7 years old, does not attend the wedding.

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10 hours ago, PumpkinPK said:

I am really tired of EG constantly dropping names of designers, how expensive her things are, and how it costs so much to drag her glam squad around.  Most people learn when they are very young that it is not polite to do that.  If she didn't, one would think her husband might have mentioned it to her.

If she's going to spend so much on a glam squad, she should hire some people with modern, fresh ideas to style her.  Although people like that may not kiss up to her the way her current, dated-look people do.

Erika really is Edina Monsoon. She's constantly crowing about designers despite said designer clothing often looking fucking terrible on her and she has this need to surround herself with gay men. Because Erika is largely humorless, I know she isn't purposely evoking Edina Monsoon.

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On March 14, 2017 at 6:51 PM, lololol said:

The short, fat, ugly money bags with a small weenie.

 

Word on the street: His weenie = Big 'n Husky.

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On 3/13/2017 at 7:04 PM, zulualpha said:

Much as I enjoy judging Kyle and LVP when they're being mean girls,  I can always feel a bond with them on a deep level because of the way they've prioritized their children.

That's funny because I frequently feel very sorry for LVP's children. She seems like a total narcissist in sheep's clothing to me and I think her children are very much living in gilded cages (that LVP has literally bought and furnished for them).

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1 hour ago, zulualpha said:

It wouldn't be the first time a hw's marriage imploded shortly after she joined the show.

I would feel bad if it happened.  The two franchises that went to hell storyline wise were RHOA and RHOYC when they had a predominantly single cast.  Of course if Camille comes back full time, we will have a single woman.   

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Erika getting some good press for her Dancing With The Stars premiere:  https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/3007963/former-strictly-come-dancing-star-gleb-savchenko-partnered-with-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-erika-giradi-on-dancing-with-the-stars-new-series/Erika's

Erika's husband is not the attorney the movie Erin Brockovich is based.  Ed Masry played by Albert Finney was the attorney Erin Brockovich worked for during the case against PG&E.

Oh well, nice story about Erika.   

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39 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

 

Erika's husband is not the attorney the movie Erin Brockovich is based.  Ed Masry played by Albert Finney was the attorney Erin Brockovich worked for during the case against PG&E.

 

Masry was the original attorney, but brought on Girardi for his expertise, and known for getting large settlements.  It was Girardi that broke it down into 5 separate cases, and his work that won the then record breaking award. 

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9 minutes ago, notnowimbusy said:

Masry was the original attorney, but brought on Girardi for his expertise, and known for getting large settlements.  It was Girardi that broke it down into 5 separate cases, and his work that won the then record breaking award. 

Again the movie wasn't based on Tom Girardi, Esq., it was the relationship between Erin and Masry and finding the link.  There isn't even a cast mention of Tom.  Mainly they were brought in because the had the money to pay the expenses up front.  SO to say the movie was based on Tom was erroneous.  Tom is listed as a  consultant.

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On 2/27/2017 at 7:28 AM, NewGranny said:

I follow Kathryn and Donnie on Instagram, and I don't know if they have a private plane, but they travel constantly, seem to be involved with WWII vets, have a cute dog and seem really in love with each other.  Maybe that is what Erica's problem is with Kathryn.  Jealousy. 

And no, Kathryn doesn't have a glam squad.  She looks very casual and make-up free in a lot of pictures.

I would have liked to have seen more of Kathryn. She seemed more real than Erica ever will be.

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1 hour ago, editorgrrl said:

I can't understand the over the top bitch eating crackers reaction to Erika. Is it a PR campaign for her upcoming appearance on Dancing With the Stars, meant to increase her name recognition? And/or make her the villain you love to hate?

I'm sincerely confused. What part do you think is a PR campaign? Do you mean people's reactions to Erika on the RHOBH forum? Or what Erika is doing on the show?

I'll say personally that I liked her initially and disliked her needless defense of Yolanda. I was interested to see her away from Lemon Lyme. I haven't been super impressed. Her solo packages are terrible because it's just her, her squad, and Next Level!!!!!!!! Mikey. Her music is terrible. Her videos are terrible. Her squad is terrible and really annoying. And yes, she and Dorit have been digging at each other all season.

I know Erika wants to make it seem like she's been nothing, but nice to Dorit. That's not true. Remember: "you just turned 40 two minutes ago" and "you're from Connecticut." The "you just turned 40" incident happened after the panty joke/bomb, but Erika claimed she was over it. I don't believe her. Even in Hong Kong, Dorit said "you're sitting next to me? Wow." The tone was open to interpretation. I didn't think it was obviously nice or nasty. Erika's response was "you're starting in on me already." That's not to say that I think Dorit is innocent. She's not. 

I will say that learning that she left her toddler son on the other side of the country to pursue her never was career really didn't endear me to her. Though I've loved seeing how clueless she is about her lack of style. Her outfits have been memorably bad this season: Bo-peep, jacked up side pony, t-shirt dress, and all of her pajama inspired looks in Hong Kong. 

One last thing that to add is familiarity breeds contempt. We all thought Eileen was amazing and normal her first season. Then we got annoyed by how she fixated on arguments and can't move past them. I think some of the Erika backlash is a little like that. We've seen more of her and found some of her personality and habits irritating.

I do find her penchant for wearing fur gauche.

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Erika on FOX News-it is all about the sexy:  http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/03/17/erika-jayne-talks-dwts-can-never-be-too-sexy-for-mainstream-television.html

I have to say this if Erika Jayne is all about sex and fun, how does one reconcile Erika Jayne sexing it up with Tom?  It isn't exactly Beyoncé and Jay-Z.  It has to be tiring having two identities.  Again it is all about Erika all the time.  I did have to laugh when she said the upside to RHOBH, was getting to know the other women.  Does she listen to herself?

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I have to say this if Erika Jayne is all about sex and fun, how does one reconcile Erika Jayne sexing it up with Tom?

Viagra?

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I did have to laugh when she said the upside to RHOBH, was getting to know the other women.  Does she listen to herself?

What's so strange about that? She's become friends with Eileen, Kyle, and Lisa R.

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12 hours ago, Giselle said:

I would have liked to have seen more of Kathryn. She seemed more real than Erica ever will be.

This is why I loved Kathryn:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/blogs/kathryn-edwards/kathryn-edwards-say-it-own-it 

Then there is this scene when she is with the three drama queens and Kathryn just starts laughing:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/episode-19/videos/i-will-not-tell-a-lie 

Erika just needed to back off the LVP stuff-it didn't concern her.

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9 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

This is why I loved Kathryn:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/blogs/kathryn-edwards/kathryn-edwards-say-it-own-it 

Then there is this scene when she is with the three drama queens and Kathryn just starts laughing:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/episode-19/videos/i-will-not-tell-a-lie 

Erika just needed to back off the LVP stuff-it didn't concern her.

I really enjoyed Kathryn's blogs. They were a breath of fresh air and generally spot on. She didn't take a side for an alliance.  And could look past the bullshit. 

I miss her.

What I found funny was the clip of Taylor outing  Kyle's remark about LVP. Camile just pushed herself back into the couch to watch because it was getting good.

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1 hour ago, Giselle said:

I really enjoyed Kathryn's blogs. They were a breath of fresh air and generally spot on. She didn't take a side for an alliance.  And could look past the bullshit. 

I miss her.

What I found funny was the clip of Taylor outing  Kyle's remark about LVP. Camile just pushed herself back into the couch to watch because it was getting good.

What strikes me most about that clip is how Kyle had come to the same conclusion as Lisa Rinna that LVP was up to something - and how Kyle so clearly believed everything Rinna was saying (to the point that she was imploring LVP to come clean - "Why would I say to you, "If I go down in flames, I'm going to take you down with me?'"). It gets largely ignored/forgotten whenever the events of last season get recounted that Kyle pretty much co-signed Rinna's version of what went down (only, she didn't care enough to make it an issue). Instead, it pretty much remains that Rinna made it up, Rinna was shit stirring, Rinna was gaslighting, etc. I am not a Rinna fan by any stretch, but I do still feel she was not completely wrong in that whole mess with LVP.

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21 minutes ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

What strikes me most about that clip is how Kyle had come to the same conclusion as Lisa Rinna that LVP was up to something - and how Kyle so clearly believed everything Rinna was saying (to the point that she was imploring LVP to come clean - "Why would I say to you, "If I go down in flames, I'm going to take you down with me?'"). It gets largely ignored/forgotten whenever the events of last season get recounted that Kyle pretty much co-signed Rinna's version of what went down (only, she didn't care enough to make it an issue). Instead, it pretty much remains that Rinna made it up, Rinna was shit stirring, Rinna was gaslighting, etc. I am not a Rinna fan by any stretch, but I do still feel she was not completely wrong in that whole mess with LVP.

I don't know if LVP was up to something as much as it came down to three different scenarios, did LVP say, "Don't bring Kyle into it?", "Bring Kyle into it?" (which doesn't make much sense) or  " Don't bring us into it?"  What made no sense is after Kyle repeatedly said she was okay with LVP the other harpies kept going at it.  Why do they care if Kyle didn't?  Why did Kyle think she was going to go down in flames?  Rinna mentioned it off camera first to Kyle at dinner, Kyle told LVP and then Rinna decided, all on her own to put it on camera.  Rinna was just pissed they didn't sign on with her anonymous source.  Rinna had it set up so that if Kyle and LVP said something about Yolanda having Munchausen, she had clear deniability that she was just apologizing for engaging in conversation.

Why did she even bring LVP into the mess?  The words came out of her mouth not LVP's?  Since then I think Rinna has kind of shown she is full of shit.   This year Rinna brings Dorit and Erika into it.  Why is Erika getting involved? In the end Rinna was screaming they had all been dragged into a Yolanda/LVP fight.  No they jumped in willingly. 

Erika can't possibly watch the season and not believe that Rinna and Eileen weren't encouraging Dorit with the pantygate stuff.  I believe it was Eileen laughing and calling it "crotch chronicles" and "Snatchchat".  Deciding something is a bad idea after the fact doesn't absolve you of responsibility.  Only Kyle had the out because she apparently told Dorit-bad idea.

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13 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

I must have missed the scene where Elieen and Rinna had a gun pointed and Dorit and told her to buy the panties as a gift for Ericka.

LOL, No, no gun involved but they both enthusiastically encouraged Dorit to give Erika the panties. Eileen went so far as to tell Dorit that she wanted to be there to watch and she made fun of Erika exposing herself.

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55 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

I must have missed the scene where Elieen and Rinna had a gun pointed and Dorit and told her to buy the panties as a gift for Ericka.

Erika is the one who likes to point guns.

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6 hours ago, editorgrrl said:

I can't understand the over the top bitch eating crackers reaction to Erika. Is it a PR campaign for her upcoming appearance on Dancing With the Stars, meant to increase her name recognition? And/or make her the villain you love to hate?

Speaking of PR, here's a video about Tom:

 

Just speaking for myself. I am posting my opinions based on my personal reactions to my observations of Erika. 

I don't feel that they are over the top. I do see Erika as over the top.

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2 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

I  Why do they care if Kyle didn't?  Why did Kyle think she was going to go down in flames? 

Kyle made the "flames" comment to LVP the same day that Rinna first dropped the Munchausen's bomb. According to Kyle, LVP came back from saying goodbye to Rinna and said something like, "I was scared Rinna was going to bring you into this, Kyle," and Kyle could tell LVP was up to some sort of shirt-stirring. At that point, she leveraged her threat that if she, Kyle, went down in flames, she was taking LVP with her.

The reason why Rinna and Eileen cared was because it confirmed their own issue with LVP being a covert shit-stirrer and manipulator. I do think they were over-eager for Kyle to jump on board with them, but I don't think they cared so much about the specific incidence of LVP allegedly wanting to drag Kyle into it, but more that it helped prove a broader pattern that LVP had been vociferously denying.

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53 minutes ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

Kyle made the "flames" comment to LVP the same day that Rinna first dropped the Munchausen's bomb. According to Kyle, LVP came back from saying goodbye to Rinna and said something like, "I was scared Rinna was going to bring you into this, Kyle," and Kyle could tell LVP was up to some sort of shirt-stirring. At that point, she leveraged her threat that if she, Kyle, went down in flames, she was taking LVP with her.

The reason why Rinna and Eileen cared was because it confirmed their own issue with LVP being a covert shit-stirrer and manipulator. I do think they were over-eager for Kyle to jump on board with them, but I don't think they cared so much about the specific incidence of LVP allegedly wanting to drag Kyle into it, but more that it helped prove a broader pattern that LVP had been vociferously denying.

All I can say, is much like Erika talking about intent with Dorit their mission failed.  As time goes on I see more manipulation by Rinna than anyone else.  I can never decide if it is because she admires LVP or if she just isn't very good at it and is afraid of becoming irrelevant.  In the clip Rinna big deal is it is some war between Yolanda and LVP.  I never found LVP to be warring with Yolanda, and had RInna kept her name out of her mouth they whole season would have changed.   

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2 hours ago, AndySmith said:

Funny, but irrelevant to the discussion. Since prop gun on stage isn't the same as say, forcing someone to do something.

Nor did I use the word force.  I do feel like telling someone they want to be there when you for the big moment is as I said encouraging. 

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59 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

Encouraging is not the same of forcing, nor does it excuse the person who did the act and/or make them less accountable for their actions.

I didn't see anyone upthread suggest that encouraging was synonymous with forcing. 

The point - at least to me - is that Erika is pretty selective in her outrage vis-a-vis Dorit's "joke." When you encourage humor and plea to be present for the execution of that humor because it's just so funny, you're effectively cosigning it. Not to mention, Eileen was on broadcast imitating and, at best, sending up (and, at worst, ridiculing) Erika's insistence that she's "shy." 

I don't think that Eileen, Rinna, or Kyle have anything to apologize for because I don't think that what Dorit actually did in the context of the present was a big deal. 

But it makes no sense to me that Dorit is the sole target of Erika's ire when her nominal friends and allies were applauding Dorit's idea, asking her to ensure that she pulled it off in front of them, etc. 

Still, Eileen bugs the most in the context for me. Not because she egged Dorit on but because she egged Dorit on, did her oddly backhanded impersonation of Erika, and then began clutching her pearls and insisting to Erika that she felt embarrassed, aggrieved, and violated even after Erika said the matter was resolved. 

All my subjective perspective, of course. 

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I didn't see anyone upthread suggest that encouraging was synonymous with forcing.

Clearly our opinions differ as I did.

As for Ericka holding Eileen and Rinna to task...it's possible they resolved it in the most boring conversation ever which the producers decided wasn't worth showing.

Then again, from what we are both posting about in the "Season 7 First Looks" thread, maybe the issue isn't resolved between Ericka and Eileen? Guess we'll have to wait and see...

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30 minutes ago, Happy Camper said:

Is it just me or does Erika's voice sound different than when she is a real housewife?

It does, she actually sounds hoarse, like she has a sore throat.

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Erika's opening number on DWTS will be to her XXXPENSIVE.  I am curious which ballroom dance they will pair with the song?  One thing is for certain, no one will give her a bad score dancing to her own music.

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1 hour ago, zoeysmom said:

Erika's opening number on DWTS will be to her XXXPENSIVE.  I am curious which ballroom dance they will pair with the song?  One thing is for certain, no one will give her a bad score dancing to her own music.

Len will if she deserves it. Bruno will queen out. Carrie and Julianne are 50/50 (both tend to cultivate a generous, warmhearted facade but occasionally let the mask slip and criticisms rip). Julianne, in particular, will potentially talk shit if the routine is inane or gratuitously sexual. 

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I don't normally watch the show, and it seems to be a huge deal for Bravo, Erika and RHOBH, so for those who are the gambling type-here are the odds for Erika and the rest of contestants for DWTS:  http://tvline.com/2017/03/17/dancing-with-the-stars-season-24-odds-nick-viall-simone-biles/

When Rinna was on WWHL she weighed in on Erika and DWTS (Rinna is a two time competitor) and first she said she would kill it and then kind of veered off course and said the show was stacked in favor of athletes.  So I looked it up and six out of 23 athletes have taken home top prize.

I guess this season's kerfuffle is over an actress from Glee, Heather, who claims to be a dancer.  I guess I am confused because Erika also claims to be a dancer and just like the Heather woman she is not experienced in ballroom dancing.  I guess there is Fifth Harmony's Normali and Charo who are also dancer performers. 

I will look forward to reading how Ericka does from week to week and see who is in the audience supporting her. 

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15 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Erika's opening number on DWTS will be to her XXXPENSIVE.  I am curious which ballroom dance they will pair with the song?  One thing is for certain, no one will give her a bad score dancing to her own music.

It’s been a while since I watched DWTS so I forget the “rules”. I seem to remember they pick a dance style out of a hat…but maybe that comes later on in the season? For the first routine I guess it is up to the professional and the celebrity cause otherwise there couldn’t be a dance in the first episode if they pick their style while the show is on? If they get to choose the style for their first dance they will probably go with Cha Cha, Salsa, Samba or Tango – the song has an electronic beat in the background. Is “Disco” a style they are allowed to do?

I will be watching…the last time I watched was because Nene Leakes was on and her partner was about a foot shorter than her. I had the giggles every time that Moose clomped on stage.

I think of all of the style dances – Erika will be suited to Rumba – as it is much slower and lots of posing and body shapes.

I’ll be curious to see how she does with something like jive or the waltz.

Whenever I have seen Erika perform i.e. WWHL or the little bits we’ve seen on RHBH – I see a very lackadaisical lethargic performer. If Erika has a spirit animal – I call “sloth” – she just sort of moseys around like a listless child.

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3 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

It’s been a while since I watched DWTS so I forget the “rules”. I seem to remember they pick a dance style out of a hat…but maybe that comes later on in the season? For the first routine I guess it is up to the professional and the celebrity cause otherwise there couldn’t be a dance in the first episode if they pick their style while the show is on? If they get to choose the style for their first dance they will probably go with Cha Cha, Salsa, Samba or Tango – the song has an electronic beat in the background. Is “Disco” a style they are allowed to do?

The dance style is selected by production. Usually the couples get 1 of 2 of the chosen complimentary styles for that week like quick step or waltz. Later in the season they may dance a best of, a draw from the hat or judge's choose or whatever tptb come up with to stir the pot.

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9 minutes ago, Almost 3000 said:

The dance style is selected by production. Usually the couples get 1 of 2 of the chosen complimentary styles for that week like quick step or waltz. Later in the season they may dance a best of, a draw from the hat or judge's choose or whatever tptb come up with to stir the pot.

Thank you!

So what do they do the first night the show airs? Will there be no dance routine by each couple or did production tell them 2 weeks before what dance they are assigned?

How do you think Erika will fare?

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Just now, KungFuBunny said:

Thank you!

So what do they do the first night the show airs? Will there be no dance routine by each couple or did production tell them 2 weeks before what dance they are assigned?

How do you think Erika will fare?

They get their dance a couple of weeks before the show. Erika really doesn't seem to have much real dance training. She can pose and knows her best angles and has stage experience but not much else. She may have some hidden musicality/talent but I don't think so. I also question her likability with the DWTS audience which is 1/2 the score and RHWs don't have much of a pre-existing voting base either. I don't think she'll last long.

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