B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, Foghorn Leghorn said:

Exactly what I was thinking about Flo!  I skip all her scenes but also wondered AGAIN WTF is up with her wardrobe?  She is always in something skimpy and sorry but she doesn’t have the legs for it!  

Someone has to overhear Thomas and Vinny....

 

55 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

Paris?  I thought it was interesting that she popped up while Thomas and Vinny were talking.

Yes, P L E A S E Show, go back to natural integration of new characters. I don't entirely mind Paris and she needs more to do that being a whipping post for her spoiled,entitled sister with idiot man drama that don't even involve her.

[Gam2]

No one will remember Finn in 6 months. Good riddance.

 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Why is felonious Flo in Wyatt's office again? Is this an LA thing, where unemployed people just hang around their friends' or relatives' workplaces every day like they don't have anything else better to do? Guess it worked out for Paris though.

Good grief, they're still trying to redeem Flo. That ship has sailed and sunk like the Titanic, Bradley. Most of us are not buying it and never will. Flo does not garner sympathy or deserve forgiveness.

So does all of FC know about Hope, Liam, and Steffy's situation? I was surprised Paris was in on that conversation with Hope and Katie. Can you imagine working somewhere where the CEO is having a baby by the husband of the director of one of fashion lines? And it's partially because the CEO's brother--another member of the company's owning family--went cuckoo for cocoa puffs over a mannequin? How do the FC employees get any work done with so much gossip fodder in their faces?

I'm so tired of Steffy saying she was sure the baby was Finn's. And they all need to stop saying they wish Finn had been the father. The kid will internalize that crap and feel unwanted or that they're responsible for mess their parents made.

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WTF is up with her wardrobe?

I read an interesting theory elsewhere that Flo is emotionally stuck in high school and that's why she can't seem to dress like an adult. Wonder if Wyatt will ever marry her and if she'll then start dressing more appropriately.

[backhometome]

Why does Hope air her messy personal life at work. 

I really do not like the highlights in Steffys hair.

I get why Thomas is not telling anything yet. Not till he is sure what may or may not have happened.

Have to admit that I did like Wyatt/Katie once upon a time.

I skip all Flo/Wyatt scenes. 

[lgprimes]

1 hour ago, backhometome said:

Have to admit that I did like Wyatt/Katie once upon a time.

I second this emotion! That coupling was the only time I’ve  enjoyed Katie- she actually seemed like she was having fun!

[Angeleyes]

On 2/25/2021 at 2:17 PM, Gam2 said:

What is the point of this Flo person? And what in the HELL was she wearing today? And is she unable to sit down so has to always be standing in Bill’s office? And what is the point of this Flo person being on this planet?

I completely agree. Her outfit today managed to be both too big and too small. Does she still work as a waitress? How does she afford these designer clothes? She’s such a hanger on and no one except Wyatt likes her. Her own mother blackmailed her for money during the Beth fiasco. She should have disappeared from town once the truth came out. 
 

https://wornontv.net/212292/

 

Edited March 1, 2021 by Angeleyes
Link to outfit photo

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

So does all of FC know about Hope, Liam, and Steffy's situation?

This is the year 2012 all over again. I wasn't here for it then either, but they were all young enough that a tiny sliver of adult hangwringing made sense if I squinted. And with my 20/80 eyesight, It takes quite a bit of effort for me to pull that off.

Now? Good Lord,why? Like being roped into the Lope/Steam/Sinn crap is a step up for poor Paris story-wise but being in a work environment where all people a personal life is know is awkward at best. I have stories for days about the Navy and that slop sandwich of a "professional" environment. 😐

I cant even blame the pandemic because we've had this stupid lazaer focus on whatever pet project Bell is obessed with that month since at least 2003, and it's gotten worse as budget cuts forced more ppl off the canvas.

[Anna Yolei]

6 hours ago, backhometome said:

I get why Thomas is not telling anything yet. Not till he is sure what may or may not have happened.

I actually agree with this. The current mess all started because one clown didn't take three seconds to assess the situation and use an iota of sense God gave an actual Eggo Waffle. Causing a stir when there may not be one needed would make him look unhinged and suspect and raising false hopes is always worse than getting bad news straight.

Edited February 26, 2021 by Anna Yolei

[RuntheTable]

I burned through an entire box of Kleenex. Watching Flo's mournful pleas for acceptance were gut wrenching, and upsetting, and irritating, and annoying.........and absolutely infuriating. So, the madder I got, the more Kleenex I grabbed and balled up as tightly as I could and launched them at my tv. This trick had some real gems yesterday, but the best one for me was how hard she had fought to move on from it. To me, that ranks right up there with her statements after the truth came out, about how she would have come forward sooner if this and that hadn't happened. Because we all no Flo "didn't come forward". No, it took a traumatized five year old boy to rectify the wrongs committed by the adults in his life. And the biggest offender wanted to take credit for his brave and noble actions. So, she can shut it with all this talk of working to move on from it. Honey, you will never be able to wipe that slate clean. You allowed a young woman to think her baby had died for nearly a year. You watched her anguish, and agonize over it. You watched her come to doubt herself as a woman and a wife. And you did nothing. Now, you want her and her aunts to forgive and accept you? It is good that you feel that guilt. It is even better that you think you will feel it forever; because you should. Your pretty face and bubbaliciousness might be enough to make Wyatt forget, but I can guarantee you it won't be enough for the Logan family. 

Thomas is reminding me of some of my favorite 70's detectives who are on the case! Starsky & Hutch, Mannix, Rockford, Police Woman. Go get um boy! 

I wonder if Vinnie subbed in his own sample for Finn's? I don't know a thing about these tests, but seems to me Finn's whole sample would have needed to be replaced, and not just contaminated. Of course, Liam could still be the daddy regardless. If that dumb, dumb doctor would have had her druthers about her, she would have taken samples from all possible dads. 

I am a bit gobsmacked that they are allowing something akin to female friendships to blossom between Katie, Paris and Hope. We all know that is not allowed. Woman are only here to fight for their man, and have no agency of their own. 

Wyatt? Man, you are just too much. Coming to your ex-partner to ask her to forgive your felon girlfriend? I guess it is no surprise you started with Katie because kidneys and all, but seriously dude, it is not a good look. 

Is Flo unable to purchase her own clothes? It looked like she was wearing one of Wyatt's shirts yesterday. 

Katie has been looking all kinds of sexy lately, and I really liked her horizontal dress yesterday. 

I also thought Hope's dress was pretty; loved the colors. All the same; I felt like I was suffocating with all that business around the neck. 

[nkotb]

I was hoping Wyatt would pull out a pizza box when he went into Katie's office, for old time sake. 

Flo, spare me, I've got nothin' for you.

I'm anxious to see how Thomas will handle this possible swerve. He could redeem himself & tell all involved, but if Vinny didn't screw with the results, then nothing will have changed, & everyone will be even more disappointed. It's a pickle. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

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How does she afford these designer clothes?

I think in the B&B universe they aren't considered designer clothes they're just knockoffs from a big box store. Or, Wyatt is buying them for her. Or, she's still spending that $50K Reese Buckingham gave her to keep her mouth shut about Phoebeth's kidnapping.

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This is the year 2012 all over again.

Please to be explaining? What happened in 2012?

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If that dumb, dumb doctor would have had her druthers about her, she would have taken samples from all possible dads.  

Right? I don't get why they didn't take a sample from Liam unless the writers just wanted it to be a bigger surprise when Liam turns out to be the father. But come on, is anyone really going to be surprised? Meanwhile, it's still ridiculous to me that they all just took Steffy's word for it that she hadn't slept with anyone except Finn and Liam. I am waiting for day when someone tells Finn about his girlfriend and all the Spencer men she's been with.

[Anna Yolei]

31 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Please to be explaining? What happened in 2012?

That was the first year in which every single story circled back to the ToD and everyone and their mother, aunt, brother, father and loading dock guy had an opinion about which woman Liam should be with.

But even for all that, people still had their own stories, or their personal reason for being Team Steffy or Team Hope and not just flapping away because the writers can't think of anything else for them.

I did like that when Thomas demanded Vinny drop everything to meet him, he reminded him that his job is on the clock. Yeah Tom, not everyone has a job by nepotism that is dysfunctional AF and people pop in and out, even in the Bel Air circles.

His wooden acting would make Steve Burton cringe (you know, if he were capable of replaying emotion), but then again we all grew to love Ronn Moss, so maybe he'll grow on me, too. The show needs to expand it's circle away from the ToD. 

[norcalgal]

6 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

Wyatt? Man, you are just too much. Coming to your ex-partner to ask her to forgive your felon girlfriend? I guess it is no surprise you started with Katie because kidneys and all, but seriously dude, it is not a good look. 

ITA!  I was so disgusted that Wyatt would intervene and ask the Logans to forgive/accept Flo. If Flo is feeling the loss of family, that's on HER!  She knew she was related to the Logans AT THE TIME she deliberately kept the Beth reveal from Hope. I seriously hope B&B doesn't make the Logans play happy family with that criminal!

I also thought Hope's dress was pretty; loved the colors. All the same; I felt like I was suffocating with all that business around the neck. 

Yes, I too thought the dress was lovely, and I didn't have a problem with the neck part, but I didn't care for the eyes on the dress. It just didn't seem to go with the rest of the patterns (and was creepy to boot!).

 

16 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

I actually agree with this. The current mess all started because one clown didn't take three seconds to assess the situation and use an iota of sense God gave an actual Eggo Waffle. Causing a stir when there may not be one needed would make him look unhinged and suspect and raising false hopes is always worse than getting bad news straight.

 

3 hours ago, nkotb said:

I'm anxious to see how Thomas will handle this possible swerve. He could redeem himself & tell all involved, but if Vinny didn't screw with the results, then nothing will have changed, & everyone will be even more disappointed. It's a pickle. 

Re: Thomas and Vinny.  I can see where people are coming from, that Thomas shouldn't raise expectations that turns into nothing, but from my POV, he should tell anyway. We know how secrets can have bad reverberations on this show. Also, Thomas doesn't want it to bounce back on him that "he knew" and didn't say anything. Therein lies the road to everyone saying again that Thomas really hasn't changed, he still wants Hope and kept the possible paternity switch as a way to separate her from Liam, etc.  If he and Hope do hook up, it should be when Thomas's hands are completely clean of this mess.

[CountryGirl]

At this point, I would love it if Thomas outs Vinny's shenanigans, Hope dumps Liam's lying, cheating, waffling ass (because all those things are still FACT regardless of paternity), and Finn and Steffy can go have their perfect (eyeroll) life where he can continue to tongue-bathe her. Preferably offscreen.

[CountryGirl]

Wyatt, you need to STFU about what people have to do regarding your human-trafficking girlfriend Felony. 

Because it is NOT UP TO YOU.

Even Katie had the good grace to say it was Hope's business if she chose to interact with Thomas and Zoe. They were still awful in terms of their actions where the Beth secret was concerned but last I checked, they were not parties to kidnapping, human trafficking, and fraud. That was all Felony and Dr. Buckingham. As an aside, HT looked smoking in that dress and why Wyatt isn't dumping Felony for his ex, I will never know. 

It also grates that Wyatt and Shauna both keep harping on the fact that she's Storm's daughter as if that absolves her of anything and renders her automatically deserving of love and acceptance. They are truly trash people, attempting to use a dead man and manipulate his family's love for him into welcoming a woman who literally helped to steal Hope's baby and keep her away from her rightful parents for the better part of a year. If Storm would be upset/ashamed about anything, it would be that he had only one child in his life and Felony is that child.

[smartyshorts]

Was I having a fever dream today or did Wyatt (Fuller- because he just isn't a Spencer anymore) fix his bird face to talk Katie into not just tolerating.... but accepting and interacting with his baby snatching Girlfriend? His whole spiel about how poor Flo didn't feel the familial connection and that Katie should convince Brooke and Donna ...and did he DARE mention Hope???....to have a flucking sleepover with her or something...made me irrationally angry at this fictional character.  

Maybe Thomas should voice his concerns to Ridge... who can then convince Steffy's doctor to redo the test. Because if he holds this information ...I am afraid poor dumb "Bro since Birth" lab scientist (really?) Vinnie will spike Thomas' chocolate milk so that no one will listen to his concerns and will possibly ship him off to rehab. 

And why is this show suddenly so focused on two tertiary at best characters...Finn and Vinn? When JUSTIN is out there somewhere waiting to battle Carter for Donna's well padded heart?

[Joimiaroxeu]

Hope really seems to like this look with short dresses and cowboy boots. Is that a thing now?

Aw geez, now Finn's gonna be hanging around FC every day? 🙄

Shut up, Wyatt. Just shut up. AFAIC Flo's little fee-fees don't amount to much compared to Hope having to live for the better part of a year thinking her baby was dead. The Logans are entitled to shut Flo out for as long as they want.

Okay, so now Miss Flo is conducting meetings at SP. WTAF? LA is full of bars, coffeehouses, parks, tar pits, back alleys. Flo and Shauna could have met at any of those places instead acting entitled to use Bill Spencer's office space.

In what world does a kidney = permanent get-out-of-Logan-jail-free card? What kind of person is so callously transactional with their body parts? Oh yeah, Flo is. 🤨

"I promise you. I promise you. You will alway come first." Eh, Liam, I'm betting all coming options are entirely closed to you at the moment. Hope's having none of that. She knows where it's been. 🤮

I really don't understand how someone can "feel" who their baby's father is. What a goofy way to redeem Steffy, IMO.

Well, if Vinny swapped out Finn's DNA sample for someone else's he can honestly say the test is accurate to extent that results don't indicate a match. I'm hoping he didn't do that though. Let it just be a random mistake.

[Anna Yolei]

On 2/26/2021 at 11:30 AM, CountryGirl said:

It also grates that Wyatt and Shauna both keep harping on the fact that she's Storm's daughter as if that absolves her of anything and renders her automatically deserving of love and acceptance.

Most of what I know of Storm's character came from the year before the character was killed off, but from what I gathered, he was a decent guy who didn't suffer fools lightly. I mean, obviously or else he never would have capped Stephanie in her ass for what she enabled Andy to do to Brooke.

Daughter or not, I can't imagine Storm being so willing to handwave her involvement in all that and welcome her in with open arms, and he certainly wouldn't have asked Hope or Brooke to do so, either. And given how hard he took Stephen's abandonment and the issues of his sisters not having one if their parents, he'd read her and her trash mother the riot act for this.

On 2/26/2021 at 2:07 PM, smartyshorts said:

And why is this show suddenly so focused on two tertiary at best characters...Finn and Vinn? When JUSTIN is out there somewhere waiting to battle Carter for Donna's well padded heart?

Every second without Zoe's gold digging ass or Waffles crying streams of maple syrup at Hope saying he's truly sorry about ruining their lives for the 9000th time is fine by me.

But Justin deserves story. Not even just as Donna's arm candy but as a rounded character. He should've been the one to discover Beth was alive after investigating by Thomas was going after Emma. I can't pretend I miss that character one iota but she deserved at least that much.

Edited March 1, 2021 by Anna Yolei

[Waldo13]

Liam is a schmuck. Once a schmuck always a schmuck. 

Katie your not going to question Hope about forgiving Zoey and Lurch but you have accepted that fact. Yes, Flo did a horrible horrible thing but she’s still blood. Zoey is not and Lurch is not Logan blood.  If Flo is not essential than Zoey is less than essential  

B&B is getting so morose and dry that if there was a flood in LA it would help. 

[RuntheTable]

Well, seems like Shauna took her time away to sharpen those gold digging claws of hers. Goodness, this desert dweller is just chock full of bad advice. One would think she learned her lesson the last time she advised her daughter, but nope, there she is telling Flo she is all that and a bag of chips too. Shauna is nothing if not clueless; the Logan girls have no use for you or your daughter; kidneys not withstanding. 

Why is Flo always hanging around in Bill's office? Why couldn't she meet her mother at her house? Can this POS just bugger the hell off? And how about you go put on some adult clothes. 

Wyatt, any credibility you ever had just flew right out the window. You are now permanently right down there in the gutter with your girl. Using a dead man's memory to guilt his sister into forgiving a person who doesn't deserve a damn thing from her. Also, you can fuck off with the "my life" sob story. I don't know what you were referring to when you remarked to Katie about how all you and Flo had were your mom's, and how you would have killed to have a life like Katie. What? Katie, her sisters, and her brother, were raised fatherless. They most certainly didn't have a charmed life, although they did have a wonderful mother, who wasn't a whack like yours, and a desperate wannabe like Flo's. 

I don't have a good feeling about this. I feel a Flo redemption arc coming, and I just don't think I can with that, right on the heels of Zoey's debauchery, and Steffy being glorified for shagging Hope's husband. 

Finn is just a schmuck. Plain and simple. 

What is the protocol for doctor's appointments in this situation? Should it be the baby's daddy, or the one who wants to be the baby's daddy? What happens if Steffy has a troubled pregnancy? Will Finn try and pull rank and tell Liam to go away? I am not sure that would be appropriate. Will Steffy tolerate Finn attempting to shut Liam out of his baby's pregnancy? 

THIS JUST IN:

Liam is so sorry for having sex with Steffy and using bad judgement and getting his ex-wife pregnant and he wants Hope to hang in there for them and he wants them to be able to move past this because he loves his life with her and the kids. Just in case anyone has forgotten. 

Did he or didn't he? I think Vinnie will remain in denial, so Thomas will have to make his own choice about whether to believe him. 

Damn, but Vinnie was stocked up! He must make a killing on those pills, so why is he living in that horrible apartment? 

Edited February 27, 2021 by RuntheTable

[Skarzero]

This show gets worse everyday, how is that even possible? 

First off the only thing Felony deserves is a punch to the face every time a member of the Logan family sees her, the same goes for her grifting useless mother. What the hell does she know about being a Logan? She had to lie and scam her way into barely being a Forrester. Katie put an end to that thankfully. Who gives a fuck about what Flo feels? She sold Hope's baby and then lied about it for the better part of a year because she's a selfish coward. Whyatt has a lot of nerve but I forgot he was once as manipulating and grimy as his mother so there isn't much surprise to him wanting his shitty girlfriend exonerated of her sins against this family. But it doesn't make it any less disgusting, who is writing this crap? Some of the best soap storylines are born out of unforgiveness and revenge. Hope isn't allowed to stand up for herself, let alone seek retribution. The only reason she has Beth is because of Douglas, not Thomas, not Zoe, not Whyatt, and certainly not Flo, she doesn't even have "at least she came clean" going for her because the bitch didn't. Do TPTB understand that not everything is meant to be forgiven? Also, I don't know much about Storm cos that was before my time but from the little I've seen on Youtube, I doubt very seriously he would forgive Felony or her skank mom, and he probably would've got on Quinn's psycho hater ass too on principle. I hate everything about this. And I hate myself for saying this....I'd rather get an episode of Steffy or her mom getting on their fake moral high ground/anti-Logan soap box than see any Logan embrace the Baby-trafficker. At least the former is more realistic and thematic to the show itself.  

Do the writers think we're blind? Liam had offered to take Steffy to the doctor before they found out the baby was his and while Finn was standing right there! Then we see him back in Hope's face like a broken record telling the same old lies that he's going to put her first and build the trust, kind of hard to do that when his baby momma and her boyfriend have to encourage/remind him to go home to his wife because his presence there wasn't needed or requested as Steffy said she can go to the appointment alone. Anyone else notice that Hope never has the last word of the episode? When Lame thought he'd been betrayed he barely let Hope get a word in edgewise but as the adulterer he's allowed to talk on and on, this goes beyond trash writing, this might even go beyond sexism, I think Brad might hate Hope deep down in ways he might not even realize. 

I'm glad Hope said that even if Lame weren't the father they'd still have to work through his night with Steffy but she hasn't acted this way so far. All she talks about is about how she whishes Lame isn't the father, not that he didn't sleep with Steffy at all (I don't doubt she wishes that). She even held Liam's hand before the results came back, so she's willing to endure more "tests" for the rest of their lives as long as there isn't any physical reminders of said tests (i.e.  a child) such a disappointment and a waste of character development.  

If Vinny and Finn are related then that makes the paternity switch SL even stupider unless they are estranged family why would Vinny put Thomas' happiness over Finn's? But whatever the case maybe, Finn could be as evil as he wants to be it means nothing to me if continues to lick Steffy's boots, unless he's just faking it. 

[Anna Yolei]

8 hours ago, TeamGabi said:

Anyone else notice that Hope never has the last word of the episode? When Lame thought he'd been betrayed he barely let Hope get a word in edgewise but as the adulterer he's allowed to talk on and on, this goes beyond trash writing, this might even go beyond sexism, I think Brad might hate Hope deep down in ways he might not even realize

Back during the very early days of the ToD, Liam would go entire episodes getting talked to and yelled at and cried at about why he should choose one of the other and he would barely have the agency a newborn kitten has to scoot to her mother's nipple. He's had more to say the last three months than his first three YEARS on this show, and I'm not here for it.

There was a time i thought Show could handwaved his indesiciveness (sic?) to perhaps not being attracted to women, but no effing way should the LGBTQ community be saddled with his bullshit, not even for the non-zero chance of him being written off the show within the year as a result.

But honestly, I think Brad Bell just loves supporting assholes.

[lgprimes]

lol sorry, but watching right now and have to laugh— who put Donna in the corner??!

[smartyshorts]

Vinn...what the eff, my dude? Now you're mad at Finn for being a good doctor but not being....nice...to you? 

Dammit Vinnie...we were all about you when you were trying to talk Thomas off his crazy ledge during the non wedding to Zoe. But now you are just being a dick for  the hell of it.  

Of, so when the BirdMan demanded that his basic bitch be forgiven, he meant RIGHT NOW? How come some people have changed clothes..but others are in the same outfits for the last three days? Oh...Donna..that dress is an unfortunate choice. The less said about that the better.

But I am going to have to check out again if they are really going to have Felony Flo having lunch dates and sleepovers and probably working with the Logan women. Hold your ground, Brooke!! Cuz no doubt this bitch is gonna be roaming the halls of FC without pants in the next week or so...and they will have Hope consulting with her about her marriage and personal life. The real question is...whom will Flo cheat on BirdMan with? 

 

Edited March 2, 2021 by smartyshorts

[Anna Yolei]

7 minutes ago, smartyshorts said:

Dammit Vinnie...we were all about you when you were trying to talk Thomas off his crazy ledge during the non wedding to Zoe. But now you are just being a dick for  the hell of it. 

I really don't get his change of heart either. I know we need a convenient catalysis in all this but why is he so Team Thope all of a sudden?

[Angeleyes]

Hmm, Flo you would do anything to make up for your mistake? How about going to jail for conspiracy for child trafficking and various other charges associated with keeping Beth away from your cousin? Perhaps you could sell some of those designer duds you’ve been sporting to pay back Steffy the $10,000 you received from Dr Shady for your part in the conspiracy. Maybe you could do some charity work to help endangered children? The only thing you’ve done is given a kidney to Katie. At best, that makes you even for your misdeeds. It does not make that family owe you anything. They can forgive you and be civil to you without inviting you to be part of the family. 

[Anna Yolei]

23 minutes ago, Angeleyes said:

Hmm, Flo you would do anything to make up for your mistake? How about going to jail for conspiracy for child trafficking and various other charges associated with keeping Beth away from your cousin? Perhaps you could sell some of those designer duds you’ve been sporting to pay back Steffy the $10,000 you received from Dr Shady for your part in the conspiracy. Maybe you could do some charity work to help endangered children? The only thing you’ve done is given a kidney to Katie. At best, that makes you even for your misdeeds. It does not make that family owe you anything. They can forgive you and be civil to you without inviting you to be part of the family. 

QFT.

Even Adam Newman had to save Sharon's dog to start the road to his redemption. 

[Foghorn Leghorn]

The wardrobe team needs to be fired for their clothing choices on Donna, Flo and Brooke! Yuck and so unflattering.  

Vinny sure copped attitude to Finn and their dirty looks at the end lol

[norcalgal]

1 hour ago, Angeleyes said:

Hmm, Flo you would do anything to make up for your mistake? How about going to jail for conspiracy for child trafficking and various other charges associated with keeping Beth away from your cousin? Perhaps you could sell some of those designer duds you’ve been sporting to pay back Steffy the $10,000 you received from Dr Shady for your part in the conspiracy. Maybe you could do some charity work to help endangered children? The only thing you’ve done is given a kidney to Katie. At best, that makes you even for your misdeeds. It does not make that family owe you anything. They can forgive you and be civil to you without inviting you to be part of the family. 

All THIS - but especially the bolded part!!!  (But of course you just KNOW the show is going to go the route of full and complete forgiveness with a family reunion - dinner invites, birthday/holiday celebrations, etc.).  😡

[Crashcourse]

Finn's possessive attitude about Steffy and Liam's baby is a huge turnoff.  What. a. dick.  He's acting like Liam is not the father and will have no visitation rights to his child.  So now I'm hoping that Vinny didn't mess with the test and the baby really is Liam's, and the minute Finn tries to keep him from seeing his child, Liam punches him in his fucking throat.   

[LittleIggy]

Took no time for me to watch today’s episode since I ffed through everything but Thomas/Vinnie/Finn scenes. I laughed when Vinnie said Liam was “no prize”! Amen, bro! 😆

[RuntheTable]

I am more than annoyed that this little love in is missing the most important Logan; the Logan that was actually fucked over. I guess I can understand Katie a bit, but she can miss me with all this talk about Flo not wanting acknowledgement for her sacrifice. I remember that oh so compelling scene of Flo being wheeled into Katie's hospital room by her gold digging momma. Yeah, so it was Shauna's show, but Flo was all in, and was secretly hoping the kidney would be enough for the Logan's to forget the years worth of suffering she had caused Hope. Donna has always been the softie, so not too surprised with her, but I never thought Brooke would cave. However, I can already see the softening, the gentle rounding of her brittle edges, as the caldera starts to form. As surprised as I am, I will be positively gobsmacked if Hope is on board. After all the pain Flo caused her, then Thomas right on the heels of that, and now Liam's betrayal right on the heels of that; I just don't see how Hope could have it in her to accept Flo. 

I feel like I am living in some weird parallel universe, or some kind of Twilight Zone with Shows desire to reward the wicked and beat down the betrayed. Maybe if Show could learn that there are big differences in making a mistake, making a choice, and using bad judgement. But every heauxing, lying, grifting, manipulating beyotch on B&B gets a pass. 

I am not Liam's biggest fan right now; I think he is a needy little narcissist, who expects complete devotion, but is unable to give it. As much as I dislike Steffy, is as much as Liam as wronged her. She has always been his fall back girl; never first choice, but that is what happens when you insert yourself in someone else's relationship. If she hadn't used her Venus Fly Trap to try and take Liam from Hope, she may not be in the situation in which she currently finds herself. However, that baby, as far as we know, is Liam's. Finn's liberty taking has reached a fever pitch with his antics in that exam room today. Dude, a fool needs to remember who's fetus that is. I don't want to see Liam anywhere near Steffy, but he certainly has first dibs on doctor's appointments and unborn baby pictures. I hope Liam becomes rightfully offended by being excluded from his child's incubation period. 

What up with Vinny's attitude towards the good doctor? He has never come off that way before, so that was completely random. Or, is that just more ammo for the whole did he or didn't he mystery? I find it hard to believe that Vinny has taken such a dislike to Dr. Finnigan in his month's worth of employment at the hospital. And why Dr. F? Hospitals are fraught with snooty doctors. I find it all too convenient and really just completely hokey. 

Edited March 2, 2021 by RuntheTable

[smartyshorts]

Maybe Vinnie  just found out that Dr Finn Medicine Dude is his brother...like a brother that was part of a "second family".  Or Vinnie is the mistress' /maid's son who didn't get the life he thought he deserved? 

I swear if Flo is sitting next to Hope at Thanksgiving and they do that shit where they say why the person next to them is awesome...no, just NO. I just saw red even thinking of that. But you know they would totally do exactly that. 

[TessHarding2]

8 hours ago, Foghorn Leghorn said:

The wardrobe team needs to be fired for their clothing choices on Donna, Flo and Brooke! Yuck and so unflattering.  

Vinny sure copped attitude to Finn and their dirty looks at the end lol

THANK YOU! I was thinking that the wardrobe person got laid off and they are wearing their own clothes.  Brooke's chest has doubled in size I believe.

[Anna Yolei]

9 hours ago, norcalgal said:

All THIS - but especially the bolded part!!!  (But of course you just KNOW the show is going to go the route of full and complete forgiveness with a family reunion - dinner invites, birthday/holiday celebrations, etc.).  😡

I realize on a soap that few people can truly stay mad forever at anyone, especially family....but they didn't even do the bare minimum with Flo that they have Xander, Zoe or presumably now Thomas to show she's change and has true remorse for her part in that. Maybe if they have Hope that medical emergency she'd gotten wind of Thomas's plan with Zoe and tipped them off I'd accept this, but we've had nothing save for the 40 minutes she sent in Sally's captivity as "karma". Ho hum.

9 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

Finn's possessive attitude about Steffy and Liam's baby is a huge turnoff.  What. a. dick.  He's acting like Liam is not the father and will have no visitation rights to his child.  So now I'm hoping that Vinny didn't mess with the test and the baby really is Liam's, and the minute Finn tries to keep him from seeing his child, Liam punches him in his fucking throat.   

I'm also over his possessive bullshit too. I've run outta ways to say no one forced Steffy to fuck Liam and she still hasn't taken the portrait down. He doesn't know her entire skank history, but he's gotten enough free clues to solve the puzzle on that.

5 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

am more than annoyed that this little love in is missing the most important Logan; the Logan that was actually fucked over. I guess I can understand Katie a bit, but she can miss me with all this talk about Flo not wanting acknowledgement for her sacrifice. I remember that oh so compelling scene of Flo being wheeled into Katie's hospital room by her gold digging momma. Yeah, so it was Shauna's show, but Flo was all in, and was secretly hoping the kidney would be enough for the Logan's to forget the years worth of suffering she had caused Hope. Donna has always been the softie, so not too surprised with her, but I never thought Brooke would cave.

I'm not. You're talking about the same Brooke Logan whose lack of loyalties led to Hope's existence and then a relationship with Bill back when he was Hope's personal Stephanie Forrester. Plus her screaming and ranting after the surgery had nothing to do with Hope and everything to do with with Shauna circling her wagons around Ridge.

Still, the most important thing that pissed me off about this bullshit is that Hope has been entirely left outta the conversation. If Hope was leading the charge on this, I'd still be rolling my eyes but that would be her decision to make. She can somehow tolerate being on the same continent as people like Steffy and Liam so it's not outta the realm for her to let bygones be bygones.

 

Edited March 2, 2021 by Anna Yolei

[Waldo13]

Brooke is so high and mighty. She is sitting in a chair, more like a throne, passing judgement on Flo. Yes Brooke has a right to do it, but her attitude just is off putting to me. Brooke actually forgave Lurch enough to let him recover in her home and doesn’t really seem to care about Lurch still being obsessed with Hope. Brooke also forgave Zoey and allows her to work at FC and didn’t object when Carter got engaged to Carter. 

Lurch go to Stuffy make up some excuse and get her to have another paternity test.  If Lurch does that, I will start calling him Thomas once again.  Or maybe Finn’s spidey scenes went off and he will get another paternity test since he doesn’t trust Vinny. What I can’t accept is that it’s a major hospital and there is only one lab tech, with very little experience running test results in a closet. I guess, somewhere sometime Vinny got, at least, an Associates Degree and became a certified lab tech. When we first met Vinny wasn’t he a drug dealer? 

[MsTree]

4 hours ago, smartyshorts said:

Maybe Vinnie  just found out that Dr Finn Medicine Dude is his brother...like a brother that was part of a "second family".  Or Vinnie is the mistress' /maid's son who didn't get the life he thought he deserved? 

Exactly my thoughts...especially when Vinny said something to the effect that "Finn was a doctor and he (Vinny) was just a worker in a lab"

Reminds of the story on Days where Gwen wants to wreak havoc on Abigail because she (Gwen) grew up poor...without a father.

[Artsda]

Steffy needs to stop saying every 6 seconds she wishes the baby was Finn's. He also needs to back off  bit.

I like Vinny, he speaks the truth, hoping he didn't switch anything.

The Logans forgive everyone else for everything, Brooke & Bill Katie forgave. They also don't seem to care to hate Liam or Steffy for all they've done to Hope. They should forgive their neice. 

[RuntheTable]

I can only speak for myself, but there are crimes and there are crimes. Lots of people have hurt Hope, and have tried to hurt her. With Bill and Steffy they had a clear agenda, and Hope was able to fight back even though she was in the dark about it for years. But she couldn't fight back against Flo. She had no ammunition at all. I am not a parent, so I can only imagine the pain of losing a child. I know the pain I feel when I loose one of my furbabies, and Hope and Liam had wanted a baby so badly. 

Flo's crime for me wasn't taking money for a child's life; that is a choice, and a very bad one. No, Flo's crime was taking money for a child's life, then finding out the backstory on that child, and discovering that you are the natural mother's cousin. And instead of doing what a normal, decent human being would do, by righting this terrible wrong, you instead listen to your gold digging momma, and keep your mouth shut so you can be a Logan. So, you stand by for nearly a year and watch your young cousin suffer. You watch her mentally disintegrate, you watch her begin to question herself as a woman, and as a wife. All you have to do to end her suffering is say the words. Adding to this, is the fact that you are simultaneously allowing another woman to bond with this stolen child; every day watching her grow closer to her. Then, when the jig is up, and you are outed by a traumatized five year old boy, who was the only one willing to do the right thing in a sea of adults who all knew, you tried to steal his thunder. You tried to make it out like you "came clean", saying that you would have come forward sooner.....blah, blah, blah. 

Flo Fulton is a despicable human being. And I don't for one B&B minute believe that Storm would want his sisters welcoming her into the fold. There is good and bad blood in every family, and sometimes a little of both, but Flo is all her momma's daughter, and wanted the Logan/Spencer/Forrester lifestyle at Hope's expense. She hurt Hope, Liam, Steffy and Beth. She also hurt all three families at large. Flo and her horrid mother have not paid for anything they have done since arriving in LA. Flo spent a night in jail before being sprung, and Brooke has never gotten to address Shauna for her crass behavior. There is nothing redeeming, or likable, or rootable about these two woman. 

I am horrified that we are now expected to watch Flo being reborn as some loving, caring person, who just made a mistake. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

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If Vinny and Finn are related then that makes the paternity switch SL even stupider unless they are estranged family why would Vinny put Thomas' happiness over Finn's?

It doesn't seem to me Finn and Vinny are related unless Finn doesn't know. That'd be interesting if Vinny does know and that's a large part of why he resents Finn and is trying to wreck Finn's happiness by changing the paternity test results.

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But of course you just KNOW the show is going to go the route of full and complete forgiveness with a family reunion - dinner invites, birthday/holiday celebrations, etc.

Without Hope? It was odd to me that Katie, Donna, and Brooke just decided to forgive Flo without giving a Hope a heads-up. Now would be a particularly bad time to spring something like that on Hope given the other stuff going on in her life right now.

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Maybe Vinnie  just found out that Dr Finn Medicine Dude is his brother...like a brother that was part of a "second family".  Or Vinnie is the mistress' /maid's son who didn't get the life he thought he deserved?  

Yup. Good to see that maybe the actor is getting a bigger spot on B&B. Guess being married to Gina Rodriguez is really starting to pay off, lol.

Edited March 2, 2021 by Joimiaroxeu

[Anna Yolei]

5 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

No, Flo's crime was taking money for a child's life, then finding out the backstory on that child, and discovering that you are the natural mother's cousin. And instead of doing what a normal, decent human being would do, by righting this terrible wrong, you instead listen to your gold digging momma, and keep your mouth shut so you can be a Logan. So, you stand by for nearly a year and watch your young cousin suffer. You watch her mentally disintegrate, you watch her begin to question herself as a woman, and as a wife. All you have to do to end her suffering is say the words. Adding to this, is the fact that you are simultaneously allowing another woman to bond with this stolen child; every day watching her grow closer to her. Then, when the jig is up, and you are outed by a traumatized five year old boy, who was the only one willing to do the right thing in a sea of adults who all knew, you tried to steal his thunder. You tried to make it out like you "came clean", saying that you would have come forward sooner.....blah, blah, blah. 

It all harkens back to why the hell Flo thought about doing this in the first place. That the baby she sold happen to be her cousin once removed is a fluke, but at the end of the day, the only reason she pays lip service to feeling guilt is because being a Logan was a better payday than the $50 grand  chump change her boyfriend gave her.

B&B did a similar story with Amber and Tawny, but the thing is: we'd seen Amber do good before that. We watched her take on Sheila, who was far more dangerous than Thomas on his worst day. We'd seen her encourage Rick to be reckless but when her direct actions caused harm with the accident, she donated a kidney--a decision that impacted her life and led to two miscarriage. The accident was before my time, but I have the sense that Brooke did not insta-firgibe Amber for getting her son injured in the first place.

But we knew Amber had potential for good before switching her cousins baby. And it wasn't even a full out steal because Becky had initially given the baby up for adoption then changed her mind. Amber was also a barely legal adult, which made her naiteve a bit more palpable, far more than Flo who is 30-ish.

I'm one of the very few open Amber fans on the board but even her detractors would agree that she had a far better, solid foundation for redemption than they've done for Flo.  Rather that handwave her sins, I wished they'd just lean into her grifting and just had her say some shit about how hard her life was. I would still roll my eyes but it would play better than pretending  she was a good person in the first place.

Edited March 2, 2021 by Anna Yolei

[smartyshorts]

Yep, they're doing it. They are super rushed redeeming Flo so now she can wander freely through all of the office sets missing the bottom part of her outfits. My guess is that tomorrow they will have this fool walk into Hope's home and do something truly heinous, like ask to hold or babysit Beth. And I am now done for another long while... I am not going to let this baby snatching bitch give me an aneurysm. Birdman can shut his beak about how she should stop beating herself up about what happened. Unless this is all a set up ForD's dying a painful protracted horrible death. In want her and Zoe  kidnapped and tortured by Dr WindsorCastle for weeks...Maybe he needs more money, or he is pissed they flipped on him....whatever it is, I will be checking here to see if it happens. Because I just cannot watch these soulless succubi... even on my days off. 

[CharlizeCat]

I will sit at my table for one, but I am really loving most of the clothes these days. Those dresses worn by Donna and Brooke yesterday were Gucci, albeit from years ago. Donna's pink dress wasn't designed with a belt and I think that's what downgraded the look on her. Otherwise, everybody looks like what I'd expect from a top L.A. fashion house.

I also like Paris' clothes but they don't seem like what a new graduate would wear to her first big professional job. Also, how can she afford designer duds, unless FC gifted her with a new wardrobe as a job perk or something? 

Flo always looks terrible. Her clothes are always ill-fitting and too young for her character. I am not saying the actress has implants, but I think it would be so difficult to dress those body types with huge boobs with the rest of the body being average or below weight. Couture isn't cut that way. 

My guess is that wardrobe is renting these high-dollar clothes instead of going out to shop due to COVID, which is probably we see so few changes in clothes or very l-o-n-g days where everybody is in the same outfits.

I am so sick of the QoD, Thomas and Vinnie, and don't care about Flo, Wyatt, Katie or Bill. I am ready to go back and see some Quinn vs. Shauna action. At least the would be interesting and DR got the "Chanel edit" with her cute little jackets. I'd even take some Bridge problems for variety.

 

[Crashcourse]

Fuck you, Flo.  Seriously, fuck you.  I think the writers really screwed the pooch when they turned Sally into a psycho who pretended she was dying to keep Wyatt.  I didn't blame Wyatt for dumping her because, who does shit like that?  If I had been Wyatt, I'd have been afraid that she'd murder anyone he showed interest in other than her.  So yeah, I understood why he dumped her.  However, the mistake was having him be with Felony Flo, instead of a new, nice, and sane woman. 

So we had to witness Liam begging Hope for, oh, about 972 times, and now we've got $Bill begging Katie.  I'm tired of these begging fools.  I still think $Bill is kinda hot, but I think the only reason he's begging to get back with her is because his engine is running slow now, and he just wants a warm, comfy body to relax with.  She does not light his fire, but she's comfortable. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

I can't with Flo. "Well your sisters have forgiven me, Brooke. What's your problem? <tap tap tap> I'm waiting..."

Wyatt was awfully quick to say no when Bill assumed he and Flo had gotten engaged. What's he waiting for, a chance to have the wedding at Brooke's house?

AFAIC Brooke shouldn't have to justify her feelings toward Flo. I think it's outrageous that anyone expects her to, least of all her own sisters. Hope should tell her disloyal aunties to take flying leaps off the nearest and highest cliff.

OMG, they even have Bill propping that insufficiently repentant skank. If anyone should've made Flo pay it's Bill because he doesn't stand for people hurting his family.

What about Hope's feelings? And was she even born yet when Stormy was alive? Why is it up to his ghost to decide everything's now cool with Flo at Hope's expense?

I'm sorry, I think Bill is too hot for sourpuss Katie. Bleh, what does he see in her that he didn't see all the times before? And why does she want to give him another chance to chose another woman over her? 

[TobinAlbers]

39 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Wyatt was awfully quick to say no when Bill assumed he and Flo had gotten engaged. What's he waiting for, a chance to have the wedding at Brooke's house?

Well, Lope is on the ropes completely due to Liam's cheating and with both Quinn and Wyatt clear of meddling....and Hope looks like she may be freeing up her ring finger soon so...why not hold out a little longer to see how things play out and if Hope could use a non-psycho shoulder to cry on? Between Thomas and Wyatt which would Liam prefer be her rebound guy? LOL

Flo getting back in the family good graces means she's about to be involved in story where we're supposed to feel sympathetic and/or bad for the her, the Logans, and/or Wyatt so I'm guessing the actress is leaving and they're killing Flo off.  Bill/Katie and Flo/Wyatt will plan for a double wedding only one bride won't make it to the altar. Wyatt begins to spiral in grief, Katie in her survivor guilt and grief bonds with Wyatt again and the two begin a grief affair under Bill's nose so that he's the cuckolded one for once.

[Gam2]

Sorry, Logan girls. Stormi is not Felonious Flo’s father. He was a one night stand sperm donor for a cheap floozy in Las Vegas. This whole story line makes me sick.

[Anna Yolei]

53 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

What about Hope's feelings? And was she even born yet when Stormy was alive?

She was, but she was still fairly young when he died.

But that hardly matters because the Storm Logan we knew would never defend this disputable shit anyway.

20 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

ell, Lope is on the ropes completely due to Liam's cheating and with both Quinn and Wyatt clear of meddling....and Hope looks like she may be freeing up her ring finger soon so...why not hold out a little longer to see how things play out and if Hope could use a non-psycho shoulder to cry on? Between Thomas and Wyatt which would Liam prefer be her rebound guy? LOL

Eh, Wyatt's already been Hope's fallback once and he's proven himself as fickle as his worthless brother. It's like falling from the spit and onto the Belgian waffle grille.

25 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

Flo getting back in the family good graces means she's about to be involved in story where we're supposed to feel sympathetic and/or bad for the her, the Logans, and/or Wyatt so I'm guessing the actress is leaving and they're killing Flo off

One can only hope, but who the fuck knows. Like I said earlier, Bell loves to prop up his assholes.

Of all the possible choices, having a revisit of Watie would make the most sense, just in time for a SORASed Will to get onscreen and....probably just worship his parents and be boring like every other teenager from Phoebe on out 😞 but having him act like a shit and give Dad and Aunt Brooke grief about the affair while cringing at his mom and half-brother dating would be more entertaining than another round of Liam apologizing or whatever thing that will break up Bridge this time once the staff is fully vaccinated from COVID and everyone can be on set together.

[Gam2]

You know, I like Katie for the most part and really like Bill for all of his parts but I just do not buy Bill’s “love” for her. He needs a woman who’s full of fire and excitement and that doesn’t describe sweet little Katie at all. Please give this up, writers. It’s not working.

[TobinAlbers]

15 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

Eh, Wyatt's already been Hope's fallback once and he's proven himself as fickle as his worthless brother. It's like falling from the spit and onto the Belgian waffle grille.

He was fickle with Sally but with Hope he was pretty true blue even after she had the affair with Liam and was planning to go back to him. Quinn was the rub in that relationship but since she's been changed by the power of Eric's peen it might be different the second time around. Liam barely blinks at Quinn's presence so her being StepNana to Beth won't be an issue unless the plot calls for it.

At least this week has somewhat of a rest from the WTD stupidity but it's also showing that B&B doesn't have much in the way of interesting story or plot when we have Batie, Flatt, Carter/Zoe/Zende/Paris, and Bridge.  What I wouldn't give for Rick/Maya/Amber, Deacon Jr paired up with 'cougar' Katie; and RJ vs Jack Marrone and an aged up Logan Forrester, Rosie, and Lizzie to bring some twists and turns.

Would anyone miss Lope, Thope, or Steam with those alternatives?