B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[Anna Yolei]

1 hour ago, Cupid Stunt said:

Liam remains a hapless, facial hair-deficient waffle.

Poor bloke did have a pair for a minute this fall, but yeah.

1 hour ago, Cupid Stunt said:

This is only one of many reasons why I gave up on B&B; the relentless game of triangle toss plays on unabated with no end in sight. With so few characters to choose from, a twenty-peat on TofD makes regular viewing impossible.

B&B has never boasted a large cast, but they did used to be a bit more creative in pairings. I think that had to do with having a larger pool of secondary characters to pull from (after all, Amber originally started as Sheila's sidekick and also the Spectras existed). But we also got stories that weren't about triangles or presented the romances in different ways.

Honestly the only thing new about romance that's happened semi recently was Rick being so forgiving about Maya not disclosing being trans.But once the show got it's diversity points for that, they stuffed Maya in a corner and that was that.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Honestly the only thing new about romance that's happened semi recently was Rick being so forgiving about Maya not disclosing being trans.But once the show got it's diversity points for that, they stuffed Maya in a corner and that was that.

And if it hadn't been for Caitlyn Jenner coming out that storyline with Maya likely wouldn't have happened at all. B&B/CBS were jumping on a bandwagon hard. KM appeared on The Talk at the height of the gossip insanity surrounding CJ and she didn't say anything about B&B or Maya at all. Her whole appearance was to deliver the latest news about Jenner.

[Foghorn Leghorn]

UGH!  Get Brooke into a different outfit PDQ!  Is someone in wardrobe mad at her?

[Cupid Stunt]

5 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

Liam knows $Bill will not stop until he possesses Steffy, so the only recourse for Liam is divorce, exposing Steffy's infidelity with $Bill in court, then Liam can gain full custody of Baby Girl Bump. 

4 hours ago, ByTor said:

But then would Bill use the attempted murder secret to block Liam from getting custody of the kid (tm Ridge)?  Liam is pretty much screwed no matter what he does.  This is how I think it will play out...with Hope's help, Liam will realize his memories of the shooting are false due to his head injuries, and then they will sleuth their way into discovering the real murderer (Jared or Justin).

 

Don't forget Caroline: she has her own selfish reasons to shoot $Bill after losing her Mistake Night rapist to her cancer lies and Sally Spectra. Honestly, Liam doesn't know what he knows, and believes what he believes happened. With Liam's latest bead bonk, and the truth won't be found by not getting medical attention for his latest concussion.

No matter how the real shooter is found (I expect Hope to come to Liam's rescue the same way she found out $Bill was his father) -- Oops! That didn't turn out so well -- Liam is still living the Perils of Pauline with $Bill and Steffy driving the train to cut him in thirds on the railroad tracks.

Liam needs to ruminate on how times and in how many ways $Bill and Steffy have fucked him over, focusing on how big of a mark he's become -- He needs to do something to protect the one thing Liam says is most precious to him; Baby Girl Bump. 

Bug bomb the motel room and have it steam cleaned, burn the gloves and clothes he wore the night of the shooting, collect the ashes and distribute all through the LA freeway system, have the leather-lined Tesla detailed short of taking the car down to primer and having the interior reupholstered, then do it again because GSR gets everywhere. Rent a better place to live, with the Baby Bump in mind, He has rudimentary management skills; get a job that has nothing to do with $Bill or the Forrester's -- Separate yourself from the people that don't want you to think for yourself or live your own life without their manipulation or involvement. Collect all the information available on $Bill and Steffy's bad acts -- the newly fired Jared, arson and Aly's untimely death come to mind in open cases with the City of Angels -- and store it securely for a change of pace -- Preferably with people who also have an ax to grind against $Bill -- They be legion.  

I'm done with Liam standing around having things done to him, rather than doing for himself and taking charge of his life. If Baby Girl Bump is important to him, Liam needs to take steps to defend her from the bad actors he's allowed to damage his life.

Edited April 11, 2018 by Cupid Stunt

[ByTor]

4 minutes ago, Cupid Stunt said:

Bug bomb the motel room and have it steam cleaned, burn the gloves and clothes he wore the night of the shooting, collect the ashes and distribute all through the LA freeway system, have the leather-lined Tesla detailed short of taking the car down to primer and having the interior reupholstered, then do it again because GSR gets everywhere

Or the dolt could sell it once he comprehends that vegans don't do leather :)

[Cupid Stunt]

18 minutes ago, ByTor said:

Or the dolt could sell it once he comprehends that vegans don't do leather :)

Liam is a consistent doormat, not a smart one.

I avoid strict Vegans like the plague. They're as persistent as Mormons in trying to convince you their self-reverence is just.

It's not like you join a religious cult when you follow a vegan diet. Many people eat vegan, and are still shod in leather.

[ByTor]

Just now, Cupid Stunt said:

Many people eat vegan, and are still shod in leather.

hmmm interesting, I don't know of any who do that.

[Waldo13]

Deja Vu all over again. Weren't we just there with Thorne trying to talk Brooke out of marring Ridge?  Thorne has emulated Wyatt in going after his brother's leftovers. 

$Bull's logic:  Wyatt can't marry Katie because he would be the stepfather of his half brother but he can marry Stuffy and be the stepfather of his grandson.  $Bull is no Spock. 

[Cupid Stunt]

33 minutes ago, ByTor said:

hmmm interesting, I don't know of any who do that.

I live in LA and everything is negotiable.

[ByTor]

Just now, Cupid Stunt said:

I live in LA and everything is negotiable.

LOL

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

I'm done with Liam standing around having things done to him, rather than doing for himself and taking charge of his life. If Baby Girl Bump is important to him, Liam needs to take steps to defend her from the bad actors he's allowed to damage his life.

I need something to be important enough for him to finally stick up for himself, because watching him stare into space as others dictate his life to him was old hat the first time around.

I mean, shit. Even Sharon Newman has more agency in her own life these days.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Doesn't Thorne live at his daddy's house? Even though he's independently wealthy? Boy, bye. And I am definitely not a fan of this negging thing he's doing to Katie.

I can barely wrap my head around Bill's hypocrisy wrt Wyatt and Katie. He just finished blackmailing Liam so he can have Steffy! Well, as much as it's possible to "have" a person, what with the 13th amendment and all.

Wyatt is a moron. And isn't coercion a crime? Whatever, I doubt Katie's going to want to go back to being a dirty little secret indefinitely. Countdown until she sleeps with that toolbag Thorne.

[TigerLynx]

Cheating doesn't negate someone's parental rights.  Cheating with your father-in-law is despicable, but it's a line they've all crossed.  Father, brother, mother, sister, son, daughter, they have all been more than willing to stab each other in the back.  Liam needs to suck it up, and get ready to co-parent with Steffy.  Although I still think there is a good possibility the baby is actually Bill's.

I wish Bridge and Phoebe were still on the show.  They were genuinely nice people, they could care about and support Steffy without it seeming strange, and they could caution Steffy about her lousy choices without looking like huge hypocrites.

If only lightening would strike Brooke when she starts lecturing Steffy about not interfering in Liam and Hope's relationship.  Ridge and Brooke are the original selfish lying cheating sluts of the show, but they have no problem telling everyone else how they should live their lives.

[tessaray]

It's too bad it wasn't Steffy who shot Bill in the back.  That's about the only thing that might make this story interesting.  (Because irony...)

While I wasn't a huge Watie fan in the beginning, I'm really disappointed that Wyatt caved and that Katie went along with it.  Wyatt should know better, Bill has no intention of ever giving him control of the company.  He just likes dangling things and messing with people.  

[RedRockRosie]

So $Bull getting shot & coming thisclose to dying only allows him to become even more vile & control Liam even more completely? No concern that his son hates  him enough to plug him in the back...because of HIS actions?

Nothing has changed with $Bull because of a brush with death? Still calling the shots with Wyatt & Katie's lives?

Still hot to get Stuffy & his "granddaughter" (wink wink) baby bump for himself?

And Ridge still being an ass & thinking he can best $Bull by yelling at him & telling what he can & can't do?

Not sure who is more stupid...this show or me for watching it hoping someone finally takes a look at their actions & grows up. Yeah, right. Ha! (Pretty sure it's me.)

Edited April 12, 2018 by RedRockRosie

[Anna Yolei]

On 4/10/2018 at 11:25 AM, thewhiteowl said:

It is unfortunately a typical pattern for Liam to waffle but here I could understand his hesitation if it is more about him not wanting Dolla to raise the child.

I somehow missed this post yesterday, but...in theory, I would agree, but the execution sucks. Brad Bell is the boy who cried waffle one too many times, so now that Lame has a half way legitimate excuse to hesitate, no one cares, really. At least, I don't.

As someone pointed out, they could still show Liam taking steps to clean up his life. Move out the Roach Motel. He may not have Daddy's black card to bankroll his life anymore, but certainly, Liam has enough for a modest two bedroom in a decent area of Burbank or Van Nuys.

Burn the damn gloves, too. Only Hope and Bill know he "shot" Bill and Hope won't rat him out. But damn, I wish he'd do something besides be a bump on a log.

4 hours ago, RedRockRosie said:

And Ridge still being an ass & thinking he can best $Bull by yelling at him & telling what he can & can't do?

Was Ridge always this damn stubborn and stupid?

....that's a rhetorical question. But fuck, even when Ridge was a complete over the top asshole bashing Amber or pissing with Thorne, I could love to hate Ridge when RM was in the role. Now, I just hate him.

[tessaray]

I deleted the recording but didn't Bill walk out of Liam's room with the gloves?  Or am I remembering it wrong?

[RedRockRosie]

I thought for sure he would, but I'm pretty sure he tossed them back on the bed before he left.

[tessaray]

Thanks.  And that's what I get for watching while cooking.  :-) 

[TigerLynx]

2 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

Was Ridge always this damn stubborn and stupid?

....that's a rhetorical question. But fuck, even when Ridge was a complete over the top asshole bashing Amber or pissing with Thorne, I could love to hate Ridge when RM was in the role. Now, I just hate him.

I never thought RM was a good actor, but he was able to give Ridge some charm and warmth that current Ridge completely lacks.  At least I understood why Taylor and Brooke originally got involved with Ridge, even if they were brain dead morons for putting up with his crap for decades.  Although in the end, both Brooke and Taylor ended up being despicable people to.  RM Ridge also seemed to genuinely love and care about his children.   Current Ridge not so much.  It seems with the recast they did away with what few (and it was very few) positive character traits Ridge had.

[ByTor]

5 hours ago, TigerLynx said:

I never thought RM was a good actor, but he was able to give Ridge some charm and warmth that current Ridge completely lacks.

TK just looks so damn smug all the time.

[mightysparrow]

7 hours ago, TigerLynx said:

I never thought RM was a good actor, but he was able to give Ridge some charm and warmth that current Ridge completely lacks.  At least I understood why Taylor and Brooke originally got involved with Ridge, even if they were brain dead morons for putting up with his crap for decades.  Although in the end, both Brooke and Taylor ended up being despicable people to.  RM Ridge also seemed to genuinely love and care about his children.   Current Ridge not so much.  It seems with the recast they did away with what few (and it was very few) positive character traits Ridge had.

It's amazing how charm can cover up some really shitty behaviour.  I agree that Ronnnnnnnnnn Moss was a dreadful actor; probably one of the worst.  But his charm and his connection to his fellow actors made Ridge bearable.  TK is working with a charm deficit.  I've heard he's a nice person and there are glimmers of that every once in a while but his Ridge is a truly AWFUL human being and he's getting worse all the time. 

[TobinAlbers]

Damn, show. Poop just got real!

As the show has aired, Imma spill it - Taylor is back and blond and with a cane and her first stop was to confront Bill!  Wonder if she's channeling Stephanie by going blond.

Brooke must feel quite solid with Ridge if she's okay with his bringing Taylor back.

So....Till/Baylor 2019?

[jenrising]

NooooooooOOOOOOOoooooo! Not another member of team "poor sweet innocent Steffy." I can see it now. Liam goes to Taylor for therapy which she uses to force him back to Steffy and we go right back to all the adults trying to have their way in the triangle of idiocy that will never end. A-FUCKING-GAIN.

[CountryGirl]

Rising up off the couch and under my own Blankie of Despair to ask: "Hunter and Fake Saint Taylor the Teflon Queen of Bel-Air is really most sincerely undead back?"

Oh, good Christ.

[MulletorHater]

18 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

Brooke must feel quite solid with Ridge if she's okay with his bringing Taylor back.

 

I suspect that because Ridge was so horribly miscast that it's easy for Brad & Co. to pretend that Tridge wasn't a huge thing a long time ago.  In fact, they were so huge that they were married for several years and had problems outside of the original Triangle of Doom that went on way too long.

So, Steffy, the Misunderstood Slattern With the Open Leg Policy has yet another cheerleader to excuse away her trifling and shitty behavior.  WHOOPEE!  I just can't...

I wish I could say that I was surprised, but HT has been telegraphing this ever since she returned to social media a few short weeks ago.  That chick could never keep a secret when it comes to upcoming storylines.

Edited April 12, 2018 by MulletorHater
Just remembered something

[sugarbaker design]

Do we know the reason for Taylor's limp and cane?

[CountryGirl]

5 minutes ago, sugarbaker design said:

Do we know the reason for Taylor's limp and cane?

I drop-kicked the OH.

Original Heifer 

[Waldo13]

Holy Crap!  Ridge got a hair cut!  He looks a lot better.

McWaffles is back to swimming in his pool of boysenberry syrup.  Liam wants to get caught, that is the real reason he wants to tell Stuffy.  Stuffy will tell Ridge and Ridge will tell Brooke and when they will find out Hope knew all along, Hope will be bastardized. That's how Ridge and Stuffy work. Did you know that Ridge and Stuffy don't need to squeeze the Charmin because they never give a shit.  $Bull doesn't give a shit either but will squeeze the Charmin just to piss off Mr. Whipple. 

Edited April 13, 2018 by Waldo13

[SimplePleasures]

Plastizilla aka Deborah Jo Hunter aka Deborah Morehart aka Hunter Tylo is downright effing hideous looking.  Why this once beautiful woman felt the need to go under the knife is beyond me.  Jacqueline Macinnes Wood is headed down that same road.

Edited April 12, 2018 by SimplePleasures

[Joimiaroxeu]

Is Liam insane!? Steffy is the last person he should tell. That don't make no kinda sense. He owes her nothing!

So apparently Ridge was alluding to Taylor when he was being all mysterious with Hope. But how is her presence a problem for Hope? Is Taylor expected to do some headshrinkery on Liam to make him go back to Steffy?

Now Liam will be blackmailed coming and going, from Bill on one side and Steffy on the other. Idiot.

[Gam2]

Holy cow, Tylo. You don’t even look human. And what’s with the cane? Ridge called you to tell you about Bill having sex with your daughter. Why haven’t we heard a word from you or about you in all of these years? And your daughter never speaks of you? I don’t blame Tylo for this. The disconnect is all on the writers, as always. What a load of crap. Reckon she’ll stay with Brooke and Ridge in the house that has 17 bedrooms for all of the family?

[ByaNose]

I thought HT was kind of pretty. I’m not sure if the cane and heavy clothes was hers or a character choice. She went back to her AMC hair (a little limp though) and, the plastic surgery has gone down a lot but her lips have trouble moving. Overall, she didn’t look that bad. I’m surprised that Brad Bell invited her back. I thought they had a falling out of sorts. I also thought that when she last left it was under bad circumstances with Bell. At least, he didn’t recast the part of Taylor. That really would have been wrong. That said, who would you have replaced her with? Maybe, a dark haired Beth Chamberlin? LOL!!!

[ByTor]

28 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

That said, who would you have replaced her with?

I already had Colleen Zenk picked out!

[mightysparrow]

What the absolute fuck?  As my mother used to say, we are living in the last days!  Seeing Hunter Tylo. or what's left of her, is a sure sign that the apocalypse is nigh.  And HT didn't hesitate to remind us that she studied at the Ronnnnnnnnn Moss School of Acting.  How DD kept a straight face is completely beyond me.  This is fuckery of the highest order.

So I guess Bell has found a way to get Hauxdilox off the hook.  It's going to be Strong&Brave Steffy fighting for her man and her marriage against BigBadHope, the Slut from the Valley, Jr.  Of course Taylor and Brooke are going to square off, using their daughters to continue their ENDLESS battle for Ridge. 

When Taylor limped up those stairs, it reminded me of the scene in 'Young Frankenstein' when Igor entered, hobbling through the fog. 

 

If it wasn't so horribly fucked up, I would have died laughing when Taylor snarled at $Bull that she knew he took advantage of Hauxdi because she was a psychiatrist.  Has she even met her daughter?  Has her time away made her forget what a trifling, slattern she gave birth to?  Has she forgotten the time she walked in on Steffy and $Bill getting ready to commit adultery IN HER HOUSE??? 

In other news, Wyatt is such a fucking weasel.  I knew he was going to throw Katie under the bus in order to get his hands on Spencer Publications.  What I can't believe is that Katie is going for it.  Wyatt not only just showed her that she comes SECOND to his ambition, he also TOOK THE RING BACK!!!!  Bell is trying so hard to try and make Steffy NOT the worst person in LA that he's tearing up the rest of the cast.  I pray that my Hope can stay strong but I know that she's going to have to stand up to the whole of Forrester.  Every single one of them will forget just who the real monster is and Hope will be torn to shreds.  I really hope that her own mother backs her up but Brooke has looked the other way before.

[grisgris]

4 hours ago, sugarbaker design said:

Do we know the reason for Taylor's limp and cane?

I have posted this before in the other threads under the B&B umbrella, so here goes and sorry for the repeat for others who've read this tale. Several years ago, HT tried to launch a web series with Donna Mills and some other soap actresses from ABC called "Queens of Drama." It was about ... (are you sitting down) FOUR ACTRESSES WHO WANTED TO STAND UP AND CREATE THEIR OWN SERIES! To their credit, their idea was kind of ahead of the curve, based on what it going on right now. Anyway, while they were filming their "tag lines" for the opening (ala the "Real Housewives" brand) HT just inexplicably collapsed. She was lying on the floor calming stating that she'd dislocated her hip and elbow. (I hate to throw shade but it almost seemed rehearsed but DM and the rest of the ladies were horrified and Donna rushed over to try to help.) The last anybody saw of HT was her being taking off the set in an ambulance.

During the remaining shows of the doomed series, Donna Mills mentioned more than once that she tried to reach out to HT and received no reply. One of the woman also said that Taylor had an artificial hip. I think it was Donna, but am not 100% certain.

I don't know if any of this is true but I watched the shows and she really did fall. I don't know the part about having had a prior hip replacement. I do know that I have had that surgery and if you fall or do anything to mess it up, it's very very difficult to repair and restore functionality. It is also very painful, I've been told.

That's the only thing I can think of as to why Taylor suddenly has a cane. Which verifies at least what happened on the show with Donna Mills & co. I don't follow HT (or anybody) on Twitter, so I don't know if HT has ever mentioned the fall, hip replacement surgery, etc.

OK, now that that's over, WTF??? So we have BSC Taylor going after Bill. Bitch was practically foaming at the mouth. I would truly love to hear the heavily edited tale as recanted by Steffy and even moreso, but Sludge. Why is everybody conveniently forgetting that Steffy is the one who answered the door and let Bill in to the guest house. Prior to that, she also accepted a call from him whilst at the same time, ignoring repeated calls and texts from "HER HUSBAND."

It's bad enough now that "Daddy" is having to fight Hauxdi's battles, now we have Taylor (aka Stephanie) jumping into the fray. Hope doesn't stand a chance and I don't know if I have the wherewithal to watch yet another round of Brooke (Hope) vs. Taylor (Steffy.)

Does anybody know if this is a long-term gig for Tylo or just a few guest appearances? Maybe Sheila can finish the job this time. If she is on for an extended run, I wonder how Taylor and Thorne will interact?

Liam is an utter fool to confide in Steffy. Now, if Liam doesn't go back to her, she'll go to the police. If Liam doesn't divorce her, Bill will go to the police. What a fucking moron.

[sugarbaker design]

Thanks, but I meant Taylor, not the actress who plays her.

[RedRockRosie]

7 minutes ago, grisgris said:

Liam is an utter fool to confide in Steffy. Now, if Liam doesn't go back to her, she'll go to the police. If Liam doesn't divorce her, Bill will go to the police. What a fucking moron.

Yup. I was really really hoping just for once he wouldn't plop onto the plate like the waffle he is....Oh Liam...W.T.everlovin'.F WERE YOU THINKING?!!

Seems like everytime Bell actually writes an opportunity to finally change things up- take a different route, they miss it by a mile.

[ByaNose]

1 hour ago, ByTor said:

I already had Colleen Zenk picked out!

Not bad. Granted HT is 55 & CZ is 65 but it could have been done.

[ByTor]

6 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

Not bad. Granted HT is 55 & CZ is 65 but it could have been done.

All I need is to find a role for Kathleen Widdoes & I'll be back in ATWT heaven :)

[RuntheTable]

I’d call that a bargain; the best I ever had…….

When did Bill become Monty Hall? Trying to push Liam to be with Hope so he can have Steffy.

I hate you Show, for forcing me to say what I am about to say:

I would gladly watch the Triangle of Doom if it means I don’t have to see any type of Liam vs Bill for Steffy’s disgusting Va Jay Jay nonsense. This SL’s squick factor is already so high, I just absolutely CANNOT, at the thought of those two fighting over that.

I hate Bill.

I hate that Bill has now fucked the only remaining couple I like; Wyatt and Katie. I don’t care how much you love each other; there is no way you can closet a romance for five friggin years. Oh, and there is no way that Monty Hall will ever sign SP's over to Wyatt. No way.

I think Hope is playing her Steffy disgust perfectly. Letting Steffy ask the questions, and not giving her any answers makes Steffy actually have to think about the question. It is unwilful, forced self examination at its finest.

BITCH. JUST. DOES. NOT. GET. IT. She has no marriage. She doesn’t know shit because Liam can’t be bothered to trust her trifling arse. She needs to shut it with all this talk about ‘her family” and “her future” and “her husband”. Girlfriend gave up all that stuff the minute she allowed her father-in-law’s Stallion entrance into her stable. Furthermore, she gave up the right to seek any type of understanding or forgiveness, for not only allowing the Stallion entrance, but for enjoying it. For wantonly riding the Stallion like the horny, trifling little heifer she is. Those flash backs don’t really show all that much, but what they do show is pretty damaging to Steffy’s claims of not wanting Bill.

Who is that man masquerading as Thorne? I don’t have a problem with giving the character an “edge”, but seriously? Does that mean you have to turn him into a stalking stalker? Is he fucking deaf? Katie told him before it was not game on. You want to be opposed to her choice? Fine. Be opposed; but shut the hell up and back the fuck off! You are becoming a creepy mess. I am appalled that they insulted Windsor Harmon this way. Nothing against Ingo, but what was the actual point to all this? The character has not done one thing of import since returning. He attempted to be a foil in the Bridge reunion; but caved to the Ridge pressure. Then he attempted to woo Katie; but that also failed because Katie is in love with Wyatt. He also tried to undermine Ridge and Eric’s very tenuous relationship. And really has sounded like nothing more than a Rick wannabe.

Ridge is going to talk to Brooke and Hope? Ah Nah. Ridge needs to focus on being a CEO and a loving husband, and let his whoring daughter handle her personal business. And I do not have a single doubt that Ridge called in the reinforcements without Brooke’s knowledge. Pretty clear where we are going. Ridge will start manhandling Hope, trying to make her responsible for Steffy’s woes; as he simultaneously continues to prop his heaux bag daughter as above reproach. Of course Taylor will pile on, and will no doubt be in both Brooke and Hope’s face about interfering in Little Precious’s life.

I haven’t even typed the words and my blood pressure is rising;

Ridge is so going to turn his back on Brooke and Hope, because he has to run interference protect and be there for his little darling. Hope has been trying to undermine Steffy’s position in Liam’s life, and Brooke has been supporting her in that treacherous traitory, so they both will have to go. Completely overlooking the fact that what has undermined Steffy’s position in Liam’s life is the position she FUCKING CHOSE to take on Bill’s dick. On it, over it, in front of it, and beside it; all by her own personal choice. Useless cow had been jonesing for some Stallion for weeks.

Good Lord, but I hate her.

I think my head will not only explode, but implode at the same time, if they serve up something like Taylor/Bill/Steffy.

I hate it.

I hate all of it.

They have taken away everything I was enjoying:

Brill destroyed

Tally gone

Lally gone

No more Spectra

Wyatt and Katie over

Thorne is a creepy stalker

No Ally Designs

Liam With Balls

 

Oh, but just bust my britches! We still have these scintillating SLs:

Bridge

Hope/Liam/Steffy

Bill/Steffy/Liam

Brooke; the newest Stepford Wife

Steffy WINNING!

Bill WINNING!

And

And

And

Brooke/Ridge/Taylor

Cause you all know they will be going there.

[Anna Yolei]

I'm already yawning at the prospect of having both versions of the ToD playing out at the same time. And I don't see TK having any more chemistry with Tylo than he does with KKL. Yawn.

[ByaNose]

IR really needs to go back to GH. Brad Bell has done a horrible job in the writing & direction of nuThorne. First off, IR is dressed in the worst clothing I’ve seen on a man on B&B. Today he was wearing a vest that was 3 times too big for him. First it was turtlenecks and now it’s vest. Stop it! Secondly, Thorne is picking up everyone’s sloppy seconds (again). Why can’t he have a woman not currently dating someone? How about a romantic storyline of courtship. I know you can’t do that on soaps because everything has to be already established (ie Brooke & Katie) but give Thorne a new woman to pursue. I’m sure IR likes the half hour format and all the studio block time off but he’s needs to go. Get him in prime time with a show set in Hawaii full time. He’s got a lot of charisma and charm but it’s not as Thorne. 

[grisgris]

2 hours ago, sugarbaker design said:

Thanks, but I meant Taylor, not the actress who plays her.

Well, I assume that if in real life, Hunter Tylo has a bad hip, she may have to walk with a cane and it's essential that she has to use it even in her acting.

Otherwise, got me?  Maybe her cane has a switchblade in the tip and she will stab Bill!

[MsTree]

grisgris, thanks for repeating the story about HT and the "Queens of Drama".  I watched the series, but thought it was all scripted drama, including the fall, so I appreciate the recap/follow-up.

[A-Lo]

The only things that move on Taylor's face now are her mouth (barely) and her eyelids.  What a cautionary tale for all of us.  But especially for JMW!

[ByTor]

14 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

But how is her presence a problem for Hope?

The same reason Brooke is a problem for Steffy, she's a buttinski who is going to butt!

12 hours ago, mightysparrow said:

Has she forgotten the time she walked in on Steffy and $Bill getting ready to commit adultery IN HER HOUSE??? 

I'm sure Bill was forcing himself on her that time too.

12 hours ago, grisgris said:

Maybe Sheila can finish the job this time.

I was very vocal with my displeasure of the return of Sheila, but if she can do this, her return will be worth it.

12 hours ago, RedRockRosie said:

Seems like everytime Bell actually writes an opportunity to finally change things up- take a different route, they miss it by a mile.

So much this!

11 hours ago, RuntheTable said:

No more Spectra

No Ally Designs

This just reinforces what I quoted from @RedRockRosie.  With the Ridge/Thorne rivalry, they had the perfect opportunity for Thorne to take his Aly's Designs concept to Spectra in what could have been an interesting business rivalry, but no, the business rivalry they did do involved nothing more than Bill becoming obsessed with a stupid building.

10 hours ago, ByaNose said:

Thorne is picking up everyone’s sloppy seconds (again). Why can’t he have a woman not currently dating someone?

Because he's back in LA where there are no romantic prospects.  When Thorne returned, I believe he said he dated a lot of women when he was in Europe (oh, right, but they all dumped him when they found out he had both a deceased wife and daughter, no woman is sympathetic to something like that *eyeroll*), and Hope said she dated and was in relationships (as in plural).  Yet they come back home and want the same old drips back.   

Edited April 13, 2018 by ByTor

[AngelKitty]

I seem to remember that Thorne and Taylor were together and Aly had been upset about it. Was that a thing or is my old brain misremembering? 

[ByTor]

13 minutes ago, AngelKitty said:

I seem to remember that Thorne and Taylor were together and Aly had been upset about it. Was that a thing or is my old brain misremembering? 

Nope, not misremembering.  Little Aly hated Taylor, even cut up Taylor's wedding dress, after Hope told her that Taylor killed Darla.  Then they got back together when Aly was older, and she still had that resentment toward Taylor...I believe this was during the Floating Darla Head phase.  But then Aly came to terms with what happened and said she forgave Taylor.

Edited April 13, 2018 by ByTor

[MulletorHater]

11 hours ago, ByaNose said:

IR really needs to go back to GH. Brad Bell has done a horrible job in the writing & direction of nuThorne. First off, IR is dressed in the worst clothing I’ve seen on a man on B&B. Today he was wearing a vest that was 3 times too big for him. First it was turtlenecks and now it’s vest. Stop it! Secondly, Thorne is picking up everyone’s sloppy seconds (again). Why can’t he have a woman not currently dating someone? How about a romantic storyline of courtship. I know you can’t do that on soaps because everything has to be already established (ie Brooke & Katie) but give Thorne a new woman to pursue. I’m sure IR likes the half hour format and all the studio block time off but he’s needs to go. Get him in prime time with a show set in Hawaii full time. He’s got a lot of charisma and charm but it’s not as Thorne. 

WORD!  If I had a thousand tongues, it wouldn't be enough to thank you for pointing out what has been bothering me about nuThorne for some time.

As someone noted elsewhere, the hiring of IR to play a legacy character, while dissing the other actor who was always available, will go down as the biggest and most expensive stunt casting blunder in soap history.  Like you, I wonder what the point of all this was--other than a desperately needed ratings boost when the Swill boink flopped during November sweeps.  The show has yet to recover and has consistently placed third or last place in those all-important demos for women of a certain age.  Despite the carrying-on by some pretty aggressive Twitter stans, it's clear that JMW/Stuffy and her Perils of Pauline storyline does not have what it takes to increase the show's ratings.  But, I digress.

After all that fanfare, and heavy press heralding the arrival of IR as if he were the Second Coming, this has been a complete and utter disaster.  Of course, none of this is the actor's fault.  I place that squarely at the feet of the idiot in charge, who knows he will never lose his job no matter how much he fucks up.  The highlight of nuThorne's tenure so far has been his knocking Sludge on his grimy ass.  After that, it's been all downhill and in such a short time.

And, speaking of stunt casting, here we go again.  So, now the remaining viewers who bother to tune in will be treated to a repeat of the Triangle of Doom II.  Rebound chick, Stuffy, can't get the man she wants so the heavy duty reinforcements have to fly in, this time in the form of the mother who apparently wasn't contacted when her ex-husband and son were fighting over some flighty child name Caroline and a baby named Dougie.  She couldn't be brought in for that storyline, but she's back to bolster Stuffy's.  Un-fucking-believable.  Nor, am I here for yet one more person raking Bill over the coals for allegedly taking advantage of a daughter whose booty is looser than Jell-O.  Cha, cha, cha, indeed.  So, Taylor recognizes predatory behavior when she sees it?  Good.  Because it should be quite obvious that she should be giving the side eye to the child she gave birth to, but I guess that would be too much like, right.  Did this avenging angel forget that she walked in on her precious daughter and Bill getting ready to do the deed in her house?  Or, did we all just imagine that, along with the mass hallucination of Stuffy eye-fucking Bill for weeks; allowing him to repeatedly disrespect her husband; and letting the serpent into her rotted garden of weeds?  

If I had any advice for Hope, it's this.  Baby--walk away and don't look back.  Right now while there is still time.  Lame ain't worth it because he's too weak and stupid to live.  Nor, is it worth it to have Lottie, Dotty and everybody all up in your face acting like you're the Whore of Babylon while the belly-rubbing skank, who got this party started is treated like some poor, put upon Pauline.  Yes, Stuffy pretty much stole your life, but please remember that Lame was an active participant in that theft.  Life is way too short for this shit.  If you want waffles that badly, just go to Williams Sonoma and buy a Cuisinart waffle iron or just go to the freezer section of your local grocery store.  And, ask your mother to be candid with you about how that back-and-forth shit works with a known waffle man.  Then, ask yourself is that the life you really want.  Again--Lame ain't worth it.