S06.E14: Season 6 Finale Special - Check Up With Dr Drew, Part 2

[grumpypanda]

For fuck's sake, narcolepsy! Does anyone really buy her bullshit? Corey's expectations are completely reasonable. All he wants is the mother of his children to not nod off in a drug induced coma in the presence of his kids, stay in one home for awhile, get the kids to school and appointments on time and to not have random dick around them. Drew acts like Corey's an asshole for wanting his kids to have a stable life. Corey has been through some crap too (mainly Leah) but only precious princess pill head gets to have a safe word. Everyone yell monkey now!

I don't know how Miranda controls herself around Leah because I would have bitch slapped her with some truth a long time ago.

Anyway, same old shit with Chelsea and Adam. I feel ashamed to admit this but I was distracted by Adam's package during his entire segment (not in a good way.) Holy crap those were some tight bell bottom jeans!

Edited October 8, 2015 by grumpypanda

[beesknees]

Ditto. Yaaassss.  I concur Adam was really packing tonight to the point of distraction. I was craving a banana for some reason ...

[Evie]

I can't believe Leah actually tried to pull the "narcolepsy" card. Girl, if you don't sit down somewhere! I can't stand her monkey-looking a@@.

Then to insinuate that the kids have bad things to say about Miranda. She probably wouldn't let them eat Cheetos off the floor and they were upset. Shame on you Miranda!

After the migraines, anxiety, depression, and spinal tap of course narcolepsy was a concern. It wasn't drugs so what else could it be.

[AmyFarrahFowler]

I posted the same thing. If the cast members walk off, don't pay them. They are under contract to appear at the reunion. Not answering questions or walking off is a breach of that contract. Plain and simple to me. I don't want to hear or read about how they are entitled to being paid, MTV makes a lot of money off of them, blah blah blah. They are contract employees. They are paid once a year. They are not being kept from holding down a real job. If they are relying on MTV money to survive, then they better learn to get with the program and do what is required of them. They sign contracts each year. If they don't like what is required of them then they can say "bye" and take their fucking attitudes with them.

 

Refresh my memory please. It seemed like a few of them worked on 16&P?

[GreatKazu]

Refresh my memory please. It seemed like a few of them worked on 16&P?

I was referring to Jenelle and Leah. They don't work.

[GreatKazu]

After the migraines, anxiety, depression, and spinal tap of course narcolepsy was a concern. It wasn't drugs so what else could it be.

Don't forget allergies! Leah will add ADHD and Agoraphobia to her list of medical issues just because they begin with the letter "A". Later, she will claim Asthma and Alzheimers.

[cheatincheetos]

Ditto. Yaaassss.  I concur Adam was really packing tonight to the point of distraction. I was craving a banana for some reason ...

Don't get too excited. It's probably just swollen from pus or inflammation. That or he wads up all his legal notices for stuffing.

Don't forget allergies! Leah will add ADHD and Agoraphobia to her list of medical issues just because they begin with the letter "A". Later, she will claim Asthma and Alzheimers.

You'd be stuck on the letter A too if you didn't get very far with learning the alphabet in schoolses.

[cheatincheetos]

The safe word should have been "possum" instead of "monkey". Doesn't that look like a stressed out mama who needs some deep therapy?

 

Edited October 9, 2015 by cheatincheetos

[kdl88]

I have an unpopular opinion. I thought Miranda made an ass of herself. She could have just let Leah hang herself, instead of being nasty, sarcastic and hostile. I would be much more in her corner if she'd taken the high road. I don't blame her for being angry, but I expected her to be more dignified. Maybe I expected too much.

[crazychicken]

Sad panda is making me so maaaad I am going to go slam doors. Just because Leah was graced with a virgina does not make her a better parent you overtanned hack. I wish he would of called her out on the ADHD crap as well, instead of labelling her child on national TV it would not even have gone through her head to get her help and protect her and if Gracie does have ADHD the best thing for her is stability and consistancy. Hmm I wonder who could provide that.

I do find it sad that Leah is willing to throw Gracie under the bus with the ADHD bullcrap to absole herself of the repercusions of her crap parenting. It is one thing to blame everybody else for your poor behavior but it is a new low even for her. Maybe she should have just asked Nathan the resident expert on ADHD for a diagnosis. While on my high horse you know what would help your hyper child a healthy diet, cut out the cheetos and mountain dew and she might lose her sugar buzz.

My opinion of Leahs diagnosis is Delusional Dumbarse and I will throw Dawn in as well.

[HeySandyStrange]

 

I have an unpopular opinion. I thought Miranda made an ass of herself. She could have just let Leah hang herself, instead of being nasty, sarcastic and hostile. I would be much more in her corner if she'd taken the high road. I don't blame her for being angry, but I expected her to be more dignified. Maybe I expected too much.

 

I'm all for the high road, but considering what absolute crap Miranda has been put through and seen her husband  put through I can't say I blame her for having a breaking point. It hasn't just been Princess Pill Possum that has bad mouthed Corey for all the world to see, but her, her family, and her rabid "fandom" have bad mouthed Miranda when she wasn't saying anything at all and tried to maintain some dignity. When I consider all that, I'm shocked she hasn't punched Leah square in her "monkey" face. So I'll give her a pass on being sarcastic.

 

I am pretty disappointed in Corey for basically admitting something happened with Leah in the early days of his relationship with Miranda. Especially because it was with Leah, seeing as how she treated him like crap  when they were together. Hopefully he got that out of his system and fully realizes what he has in Miranda. But Leah didn't even need to get on her high horse about it, since the timeline would've had her with Jeremy at that point.

[Lemons]

Drew threw softballs at Leah just like Jenelle.

I thought the way Drew attacked Adam compared to everyone else was disgusting and If anyone should have walked out, it was Adam. I think that Adam and Jenelle have similar backgrounds with arrests, alcohol (and with Jenele Heroin), and generally screwing up. the difference is that Adam is acknowledging it and trying to change. Jenelle will never admit to having problems, instead blaming everyone else for her mistakes. Adam is happy that Aubrey has other people in her life that are good for her while Jenelle abuses the one person who is there for Jace.

How about giving Adam some encouragement instead of unprofessionally diagnosing him as an alcoholic? What kind of doctor is drew? The thing is, Adam will always be Aubreys father and it would be in everyone's best interest that he continues to do well. No matter how much Chelsea wishes her dad can make Adam go away because she has a new family, it isn't going to happen.

And after Drew asked Adam why he needs women over during Aubreys visits he has No comment on Corey saying that the girls said Leah's new "friend" slept over?

[ChocolateAddict]

Drew threw softballs at Leah just like Jenelle.

I thought the way Drew attacked Adam compared to everyone else was disgusting and If anyone should have walked out, it was Adam. I think that Adam and Jenelle have similar backgrounds with arrests, alcohol (and with Jenele Heroin), and generally screwing up. the difference is that Adam is acknowledging it and trying to change. Jenelle will never admit to having problems, instead blaming everyone else for her mistakes. Adam is happy that Aubrey has other people in her life that are good for her while Jenelle abuses the one person who is there for Jace.

 

That's actually a really good point about how Jenelle and Adam have similar backgrounds.  Did Jenelle have unsupervised visitation with Jace when she was high high!?  I guess the only thing is that Adam was driving Aubree around on a suspended licence which could have been really dangerous.  

Jenelle throws 101 excuses out for her arrests "Nathan provoked me and the charges were dropped", "It was a misunderstanding", etc, etc and Sad Panda pats her on the back whereas Adam gets interrogated.  I'm not trying to defend Adam but I do agree that it is completely unfair how Sad Panda treats the girls and their exes completely differently.  

Can you imagine if Corey was the one with no job, regularly high, with a squalid house?  Like he said last week, he would be crucified.  But when it is special snowflake Leah it is "anxiety and depression and narcolepsy and the medication".  I feel that she should throw in a cancer scare and a heart problem cause goodness knows it's all bull. 

[athousandclowns]

I was physically afraid of Adam through my television.  He really believes he will have full custody?  Can we thank Planned Parenthood for keeping more out of the gene pool? His buddy scares me too.

 

Cory and Miranda didn't support her during her possible narcolepsy diagnosis ,  who were taking care of the children while you stayed awake one night and slept after they wired you up?

[cheatincheetos]

If Leah has uncontrollable "narcolepsy" then why is it OK for her to drive?

[NoirDetective]

Fuck you, Dr. Drew, and I'm gonna tweet that at his Sad Panda ass, too. Leah is a garbage human being, but Drew is worse for protecting his paycheck at the expense of kids with druggie tart for a mother. Both he and Leah need to get off my screen ASAP.

[lidarose9]

Leah seemed high as a kite to me. She could barely talk. 

[WhosThatGirl]

I'm sorry but they repeated the reunion so I watched and I laughed again when Corey was trying to make a point and Dawn was yelling, "monkey" and Corey was like, "what..? monkey, what?" I laughed. I laughed again when Miranda was like, "WTF is Monkey?" I'm sorry, it's just.. kind of funny. Like. Really.

 

Also Leah, while she doesn't have obligation to say what her deal is on camera, I think Corey should get a heads up since whatever her issue- of the week, month, year, season, as it is- is affects him when she wants to go to "Therapy" for a amount of time that leaves his kids in his care while she's off doing it. So, I don't know what the hell Dr. Panda was trying to sell me here. Panda clearly does not watch these shows, he watches the clips shown before he interviews them. 

 

I like Chelsea but there was nothing to see because Chelsea is pretty boring, given that she's normal and Adam is  deluded. The fact that he doesn't realize that having his daughter of not even six call his ex girlfriend/mother of his other daughter to  let her see her sister and make her feel bad about it speaks volumes about him. 

 

After Miranda has her baby I really want to go out for a drink with her. Also Randy and Barb can come too. And Corey. And Corey's dad because he seems pretty smart too. 

Edited October 8, 2015 by WhosThatGirl

[Elaine]

So did Corey cheat on Miranda with Leah at the beginning of their relationship or marriage?  Leah said the first couple months of their marriage and later they said relationship.  Either time was bad for all involved, but to me if they were married it makes it even worse.

Yes I know Leah was married to Jeremy at that time, but I already knew about her cheating ways.  Now all Miranda's hostility towards Leah makes sense.  I knew it was more than concern about how the girls are being raised.  Miranda may have forgiven Corey, but she will never forgive Leah.

[cheatincheetos]

Fuck you, Dr. Drew, and I'm gonna tweet that at his Sad Panda ass, too. Leah is a garbage human being, but Drew is worse for protecting his paycheck at the expense of kids with druggie tart for a mother. Both he and Leah need to get off my screen ASAP.

Yes. This reunion deserves and needs to be the very last stop of the SadPanda Express.

[LotusFlower]

Fuck you, Dr. Drew, and I'm gonna tweet that at his Sad Panda ass, too. Leah is a garbage human being, but Drew is worse for protecting his paycheck at the expense of kids with druggie tart for a mother. Both he and Leah need to get off my screen ASAP.

Dr. Drew is an addiction specialist, so I see it as unconscionable and shameful that he allowed a drug addict to sit there and deny her addiction. For a TV-viewing audience, no less. He has NO credibility left after this performance. My guess is that Leah and Dawn told the producers, who in turn told Dr. Drew, that outing the drug addiction/rehab could jeopardize her custody of the girlses, so they relented and allowed this sham interview. I bet "monkey" wasn't the only concession MTV made to get Leah back this season.

[snarts]

 

And after Drew asked Adam why he needs women over during Aubreys visits he has No comment on Corey saying that the girls said Leah's new "friend" slept over?

Adam has Aubrey only 4 days a month.  Which is why his disappearing act Father's Day weekend is even more telling.  Yes, he is her Father, which is why for all his talk of change, his actions continue to speak volumes.  Until he shows that she is his priority and not "alone/gym time"  (he & Nipples really are similar) or women on those 4 days of the month, why should he have more?

[poeticlicensed]

Nobody is demanding that Leah come clean  on TV. But part of not coming clean does not include license to make shit up. So if she wants her privacy WRT her issues, then say nothing at all, don;t film, don't take the MTV money. Leah wants it both ways. She wants the MTV paycheck but doesn't want to have to be honest. Corey looked pissed and frustrated. I don;t think it's asking to much for him to know where his kids are going to school, get them to school on time, for them to live in one place longer than a few months and not to parade guys around them. Part of the d difficulty with addiction or mental health issues is that may times the people who have to deal with the  fallout are forgotten in the treatment and addiction cycle. Panda  gives Leah a free pass on her behavior and when Corey says what about my stress Panda totally downplays it and says that Corey isn't dealing with mental health issues. I'm frankly shocked/not shocked by Panda's ho hum attitude when Corey says that the kids aren't getting to school and that the girls tell him that they are using kitchen appliances unsupervised because they can't wake their mother up to feed them. At the end, Panda gave a half hearted "you are going to work on the school thing, right Leah?" But there was zero force behind it. Freaking monkey indeed. 

 

Adam and Chelsea was same old same old. Unless Chelsea does a 180, Adam isn't going to get custody ever. If he wasn't a jackass, he would try to get along with Chelsea. That would get him farther than 40K in lawyer's fees will. 

[charmed1]

Instead of yelling monkey, I don't know why Leah doesn't just fake narcolepsy when Corey calls her out.

[Brooklynista]

I wanted Corey to ask Leah why Gracie only has ADHD at her house. Is it like the panic attacks Janelle is able to schedule during Kaiser's nap time?

[ArtTypeGirl]

omg, thank God for you fellow posters bc I saw some ridiculously stupid people blowing smoke up Leah's ass all over twitter about how wonderful she is and how awful Corey and Miranda are. At least I know intelligent life does exist, if only here at PTV. 
Dr Drew doesn't deserve to keep his license if he thinks enabling Leah was a good thing to do. If she nods off in that car with her three children in the backseat on those mountain roads, someone could DIE. The fact that, probably every day they are with Leah, Corey and Miranda have to worry about that possibility is WRONG. Like, seriously FU'd wrong. Leah does not have the right to endanger her kids. We SAW HER fall asleep ON CAMERA numerous times this season and that is just on the few days the camera crew shot her. Imagine the stuff they DIDN'T catch? Noooo, Corey- and by extension Miranda - have justification for any anger, meanness, bitterness, etc that they hurl at that backwoods barbie train wreck. And shame on Dr Drew for being SO concerned with the stress level and comfort of Leah but none AT ALL for the woman in her LAST TRIMESTER, being attacked. Umm, ok. I feel like there should be a special place in hell for Sad Panda's role in all of this. 

The kids missing school… that is another thing that would make my blood boil if I were Corey. Attendance in school is like, the law, right? I know I can't let my kid just miss days, just because. Now, in divorce the parent that has the main custodial role has way more control over whether a kid makes it to school on time, etc but the other parent isn't expected to just sit back and watch it, right? I have no experience with divorce but I can imagine that would land the custodial parent in front of a judge real quick. I just don't understand how no one can make Leah be accountable.
It made me sad to think that Corey cheated with Leah… I thought he was better than that. I hope him and Miranda work out. I am #teamMiranda all the way. I think she showed great restraint bc seeing all of the nonsense coddling of Leah in person would make me want to scream.

And whoever above pointed out the double standard on Adam's behavior being wrong (and it is) but the same behavior by Janelle or Leah doesn't even get a mention was 100% correct. They are the main focus of the show, so their behavior should be called in to question more than the supporting people. 

Also, whoever pointed out that narcolepsy sufferers aren't allowed to drive: great point. Leah is so full of crap… even more than her car! 

[ghoulina]

First, I just want to say I applaud Cole for refusing to be on the reunion special. He was there to support Chelsea (who looked stunning, by the by) and help with Aubrey, but he's not trying to carve out his little piece of fame. Good for him. Also, I NEED Pete the pig in my life!

 

Now, I was a bit shocked because I felt like Drew was deservedly hard on Adumb. For once. Usually I feel like Drew is coming down on Chelsea and Randy about how "mean" they are to Adumb, and how they need to give him a chance, blah blah blah. But last night I felt like he was asking the hard questions and not just letting Adumb slide. Like what was that shit about trying to insinuate Chelsea has a drinking problem too??? Chelsea has never flipped her car. She doesn't have half a dozen DUIs. She has a license. Just complete and utter BS. And Drew didn't let that go, so good for him. 

 

Also, Adumb doesn't have much time to himself? Hahahaha! You're a weekend dad. What else is taking up all of your time? He didn't even say he had a job! He just said he "goes to the gym". Maybe this was his way of letting meth-face know he comes over too much?

 

I was super disappointed that they brought Randy out there and didn't have much to say to him. What the fuck????

 

 

 

Now, where Drew totally failed was with Leah. Same kid gloves as with Jenelle, only worse. All this talk about "therapy" and vague "recovery" - can't we just all say she was high as fuck????? He never asked about her nodding off holding her brother's baby. He never asked about the midnight ravioli. He never asked about the state of the fucking car her little children were squeezed into. They BARELY touched on the toast thing - but that was just Corey and Leah arguing about it. Drew never really stepped in. Leah just played off being asleep in the morning - oh, the doctors thought I might have narcolepsy. Damn, is there an affliction under the sun that this girl DOESN'T have? Depression, anxiety, pain from a c-section (several years ago!), migraines, narcolepsy. Damn, sucks to be her. 

 

Awww, poor little Leah. She's just anxious and depressed. That's all. Crap. Complete and utter crap. One of my sisters has suffered her entire life since adolescence with bad depression and anxiety. She sees a psychiatrist and takes medication, and we're all there for her when it gets really bad. Never once have I seen her in a state like Leah was in. Never. She works. She takes care of her house. She has a wonderful husband, and they just had a baby, whom she is taking great care of. I could feel badly for Leah, offer a little sympathy, if she would just fucking OWN it. But all she does is lie and deny.

 

And, I'm sorry, but a lot of her crap isn't just the drugs. And it's not "anxiety and depression". It's the fact that she's simply a lazy, selfish, entitled person. She wasn't on drugs back when MTV crews reported she was feeding her kids cheetos of the disgusting trailer floor. She wasn't claiming anxiety and depression when she cheated on her first husband several times and filed for divorce over a truck. She wasn't on drugs when she moved on with another guy in the span of 60 seconds, was letting her half naked kids run around wild while she shut herself in her room to talk to him on the phone, and then tried to get back with her ex.

 

Girl is just a hot mess, period. And she's never going to be a good person and a good mom and until she can get real with herself.

 

But you go ahead, keep shouting monkey! (That shit seriously made my year, y'all!)

 

Look at all the shit Corey revealed last night - Leah has moved 6 times in 4 years. She doesn't even have the girlses enrolled in a school. She's got a new guy living with her, according to the girls. But she outright denies it, of course. Monkey!

 

All he wants is some stability for his kids. They NEED that. No wonder poor little Gracie acts out so much. Oh, but now Leah's decided it's ADD. Fuck that. She wants to stop being stand-in mommy, she wants some damn attention! I mean, did you notice on that little montage they showed at the end that all of the "fun" moments with the twins were with Corey and Miranda? Tells you a lot, doesn't it?

 

I did think Miranda got a bit immature and petty with Leah, but honestly....at this point...I don't care. I'm sure they're fucking fed up. They're the ones having to clean up the messes Ms. Messer makes. They're the ones probably worried sick when the girlses aren't with them. And they can't even address all their fucking issues because Mama Dawn will just yell "Monkey!" from the audience and shut the whole shit down. So go ahead, Miranda, go full-on Mean Girl with the Pill Princess of Possum Holler. See if I care. 

[beesknees]

Instead of yelling monkey, I don't know why Leah doesn't just fake narcolepsy when Corey calls her out.

This made me laugh out loud.  Seriously.

[ghoulina]

Leah seemed high as a kite to me. She could barely talk.

 

She did seem odd. Her voice kept sounding like she was going to cry, but there were never any tears in her eyes (until the end). It was like this weird, choked-up sound. 

 

After Miranda has her baby I really want to go out for a drink with her. Also Randy and Barb can come too. And Corey. And Corey's dad because he seems pretty smart too.

 

That sounds like a good time! Can we also invite Ryan's dad from the first installment of Teen Mom?

 

Adam has Aubrey only 4 days a month.  Which is why his disappearing act Father's Day weekend is even more telling.  Yes, he is her Father, which is why for all his talk of change, his actions continue to speak volumes.  Until he shows that she is his priority and not "alone/gym time"  (he & Nipples really are similar) or women on those 4 days of the month, why should he have more?

 

That's why I'm totally on Chelsea's side. What has really changed? He still has no license. I'm not entirely convinced he has a job. He still is rotating girls in and out. He is still manipulating his kid and being nasty to Chelsea. He's still putting his personal life above Aubrey (running off to CO for Father's Day weekend - I bet that was for some big party, not because he needed "alone time"). So yea, I see no real progress. It's just a bunch of talk, talk, talk. 

 

I do agree with you all about the Adumb and Jenelle comparison, though. I said long ago that they should date because they're so fucking similar and surely it would cause some sort of spontaneous combustion. So yea, I do appreciate Drew going hard on Adumb, but he absolutely should give Jenelle the same treatment. 

[Evie]

I have an unpopular opinion. I thought Miranda made an ass of herself. She could have just let Leah hang herself, instead of being nasty, sarcastic and hostile. I would be much more in her corner if she'd taken the high road. I don't blame her for being angry, but I expected her to be more dignified. Maybe I expected too much.

Oh I would have liked for her to take the high road and let Leah hang herself. Miranda and Corey both had really good points, but the tone distracted from that. I get why Miranda reacted the way she did though, especially since Leah went out there obviously planning to blame Miranda.

[ClassyCourtHeels]

The Leah segment made it blatantly clear why Corey wants no part of this show in the future. Hopefully he keeps the girls off too. Although he may like the show because with the producer and camera crew around his kids are safer since Leah isn't by herself.

[suzeecat]

When Adam was spouting about how he will not stop fighting until he gets custody, would it really have been so hard for Dr. Drew to ask him "if you get custody, what will you do when you need "time to yourself?"  Adam complains about not having enough time with Aubrey yet when he has her for Father's Day he blows her off, won't even answer the phone when his daughter calls him on Father's Day.  That right there speaks volumes about how bad he wants custody.  He just wants to hurt Chelsea any way he can and he knows that throwing the custody threat out there does it every time.  The only smart thing Adam has ever done in his life is get a vasectomy. 

 

Leah is simply delusional and BIG into denial.  Sadly, nothing will change until she owns up to her truth and takes responsibility for her actions.  Monkey.  Safe word.  I was stupefied. 

[zenme]

Quote Leah seemed high as a kite to me.

 

She could barely talk. She did seem odd. Her voice kept sounding like she was going to cry, but there were never any tears in her eyes (until the end). It was like this weird, choked-up sound.

 

I actually read a blind item back from the time of the filming of the reunion in which it written that Leah was spotted at an LA beach purchasing pills or drugs of some sort. 

 

It's 9 am here and my husband and I have already invoked "monkey" once each.

Edited October 8, 2015 by zenme

[ghoulina]

When Adam was spouting about how he will not stop fighting until he gets custody, would it really have been so hard for Dr. Drew to ask him "if you get custody, what will you do when you need "time to yourself?"  Adam complains about not having enough time with Aubrey yet when he has her for Father's Day he blows her off, won't even answer the phone when his daughter calls him on Father's Day.  That right there speaks volumes about how bad he wants custody.  He just wants to hurt Chelsea any way he can and he knows that throwing the custody threat out there does it every time.  The only smart thing Adam has ever done in his life is get a vasectomy.

 

No kidding. I think Adumb secretly loves that his parents are supposed to supervise visitation, because it means he can just fuck off whenever he wants and leave Aubree with them. This isn't the first time Chelsea has discovered that he has left her with the grandparents during his weekend. 

[Chicken Wing]

I still want to marry Miranda, but I will agree that she probably could have behaved a little more maturely with Leah - mainly because she has always come off more maturely on the show, so it was surprising to watch her go off. That said, I don't blame her for snapping, because I don't think I could have kept myself muzzled when having to deal with Leah and all the shit that everyone knows is really what's up but no one is allowed to say it out loud because Leah has some sort of "deal" with the producers to sugarcoat her "story." I'd be frustrated, too. I am sad that Corey and Leah apparently did cheat while he was with Miranda (can Leah be faithful to anyone, ever?), but I'd hope that Miranda's beef with Leah is more over the myriad other issues she has and won't own up to and less about that situation. I don't know, but it rubs me the wrong way when a woman decides to forgive her man for cheating but places all the blame and hatred on the other woman who didn't actually owe her anything.

 

Chelsea continues to be the most boring (read: normal), and Adam will never grow up. I'll concede that he is a slightly better person than he was when we started, but that's not really saying much because he was a pretty awful human being in the beginning. So I'm not sure why he thinks he deserves a medal for being slightly better than awful. And I don't know what he thought he was accomplishing in this reunion show, but every word out of his mouth was total bullshit. He can't give a straight answer or explanation for anything, always making the excuse that he doesn't owe an explanation to anyone but himself. Whatever. He wasn't even given very hard-hitting questions. I mean, missing Father's Day because he needs some time to "get away"? What kind of shit answer is that? Whether or not he actually did need to "get away," and I'm doubtful it was anything like that, did he have to do it on one of the four days a month that he has his daughter, this time happening to be Father's Day? Answer us that, will you, Adam? And how dare he try to accuse Chelsea of having the same problems with alcohol just because she imbibes once in a while, too, like most other responsible adults. Give me a break. When you are consistently getting arrested for DUIs, when you've served jail time over them, when you cannot refrain from drinking even after getting into alcohol-related legal problems, you have a problem with alcohol. The fact that he can't see the difference does not tell me that he has grown up or learned his lesson or matured at all. He may not actually be drinking anymore, he may have finally gotten it into his head that he actually has to follow a court's instructions, but he doesn't "get" it. He doesn't "get" that while those incidents may have been in the past, his problem is still very much in the present and always will be, because that's how it works. He will always have a drinking problem even if he never touches another drop of alcohol in his life. And that's okay, as long as he recognizes it and works at it to make sure he stays good and sober, for himself and for his daughters, as he claims. But he won't own up to anything. Everything is "in the past." But it's not. He's still full of excuses.

[beesknees]

Adam has Aubrey only 4 days a month.  Which is why his disappearing act Father's Day weekend is even more telling.  Yes, he is her Father, which is why for all his talk of change, his actions continue to speak volumes.  Until he shows that she is his priority and not "alone/gym time"  (he & Nipples really are similar) or women on those 4 days of the month, why should he have more?

 

Oh, yeah that was straight-up BS with Adumb trying to explain why he needed "Me Time" in Denver on Father's Day instead of spending it with his 2 kids.  And this dude is trying to get 50% placement?  Huh?  Say whaa ...?  What happens when Adam gets 50% placement of his small daughters and he needs "Me Time".  Um, is he gonna dump those kids off on his parents so he can have time to go find himself again?  Yeah, sorry Adumb.  Parenting does not work like that.  Adam is delusional and scary in his thinking. 

 

I don't think Adam needs to be crucified for the rest of his life for glaring mistakes he's made in the past but he's got A LONG, LONG WAY TO GO before people are going to start trusting him again.  As in, like, years ....  Adam needs to prove himself and not just for a few months.  I don't blame Chelsea or her father for not trusting Adam.  Baby steps, you know?

Edited October 8, 2015 by beesknees

[cheatincheetos]

I'm totally on Chelsea's side. What has really changed? He still has no license. I'm not entirely convinced he has a job

  He claims that he's had his drivers license reinstated after 5 years without one and is working as a trainer for a recently opened gym, Pure Fitness in Sioux Falls. He just bought a new 5-bedroom country house "for my girls" and is working on an autobiography, like everyone else even halfway included in the show.

   Commenting on the Examiner item, Ashley Reality Roundup notes that his MTV contract forbids him to give interviews without MTV's say-so, not that he tends to obey rules anyway.

 

http://www.examiner.com/article/exclusive-interview-with-teen-mom-2-star-adam-lind-1

 

"It's not like 30 *bleeped* a month."

 

It's more like 28, especially in February!

Edited October 8, 2015 by cheatincheetos

[ghoulina]

Another thing about Miranda going off on Leah - not only is she probably just FED UP, but homegirl is also pregnant. I remember being a lot more testy and less patient with people when my hormones were raging. I flipped out on my husband once over the tiniest thing, it was so out of character. She's had to fly out there, sit backstage during everyone else's turn, and then listen to Leah's BS. She's possibly tired, uncomfortable, not feeling well, etc. I'm willing to cut her some slack. 

 

Partly, because I probably would have been a lot nastier. 

[cheatincheetos]

I get why Miranda reacted the way she did though, especially since Leah went out there obviously planning to blame Miranda.

I loved how we could see Leah swallowing hard when Miranda came out.

[MerryMary]

Oh where to start... Kudos to Adam for getting a vasectomy!  Does he realize he's not father material?  No.  He just wants to drop seed all over South Dakota and not pay child support.  I hope he gets a nice STD.  Spending $40k on a lawyer means that's $40k not spent on a college fund.  I'd like to meet the lawyer who took Adam's money.  There's no way in hell any lawyer thought they could win.  I hope Adam really has changed but I doubt it.  Constantly going to the gym is just trading one addiction for another.  It's a healthy habit, albeit a narcissistic one.  I'm glad that Chelsea didn't seem interested in fighting with Adam.  She's accepted he is what he is.  Randalicious what the hell happened?  Put down the bagel!  Did he retire?  Dentists have to stand all day long; his feet must be killing him with all of that weight.

 

Leah, Leah, Leah... there's a theory from Leah supporters that Leah doesn't do drugs but simply has mental problems.  She may have mental problems and she may have been trying to self-medicate her problems, but now she's an addict.  It's obvious.  Symptoms of opiate abuse:  anxiety attacks, depression, lowered motivation, untidy physical appearance, raspy voice.  She nodded out on television.  I almost choked when she said she had narcolepsy.  What a joke.  And Jeremy said she's blowing through money as fast as it comes in.  If it walks and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.  Sorry Mama Dawn.  I don't mind that Leah didn't want her problems aired on tv, but she should have been honest with Corey off-camera.  Nobody goes to rehab for exhaustion, not even Mariah Carey. 

 

I can tell Leah is already planning another housing move with man-of-the-moment.  When Corey was rattling off her six moves, she didn't say she's in a good place now.  She was defensive.  Recovering addicts aren't defensive, they're humble.  They realize their mistakes and how they've hurt people. 

 

Miranda really needed a media coach.  She's completely in the right about how she feels but it's hard to be on her side. 

 

And of course in all of this hot mess, not one word about the twin with MD and her prognosis.  The kids are like an afterthought. 

[ghoulina]

He claims that he's had his drivers license reinstated and is working as a trainer for Pure Fitness. (of course maybe that's Pure bullshit). He just bought a new 5-bedroom country house "for my girls" and is working on an autobiography, like everyone else even halfway included in the show.

  Ashley notes that his MTV contract forbids him to give interviews without MTV's say-so, not that he tends to obey rules anyway.

http://www.examiner....tar-adam-lind-1

http://theashleysrea...w-his-co-stars/

"It's not like 30 *bleeped* a month."

It's more like 28, especially in February!

 

I'm half tempted to call that Pure Fitness in Sioux Falls and see if he really works there. But, alas, I'm not wearing my Megan King Headband of Justice! (joke from RHOC forum)

 

Five-bedroom house might be five cardboard boxes duct taped together? Am I too hard on Adumb? Time will tell, but I tend to disbelieve everything he says. I mean, in that interview he flat out calls Jenelle a good mom and says Kail is the nicest - so he's got to be full of shit, right?

[cheatincheetos]

Another thing about Miranda going off on Leah - not only is she probably just FED UP, but homegirl is also pregnant.

And Leah didn't congratulate them.

Five-bedroom house might be five cardboard boxes duct taped together? Am I too hard on Adumb? Time will tell, but I tend to disbelieve everything he says. I mean, in that interview he flat out calls Jenelle a good mom and says Kail is the nicest - so he's got to be full of shit, right?

  I don't put much stock in how many bedrooms a house claims to have. As it's out in the country, it could be old construction and a fixer-upper. Maybe he envisions ponies for the girls like Leah did.

  When he posted the shaved-crotch selfies on Instagram, he said that he'd gone from weighing 135 to about 200 lbs in a single year. Is that possible without controlled substances?

  I don't see a lot about Pure Fitness at a glance but it does have a Facebook page.

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[ClassyCourtHeels]

Does anyone actually believe he spent $40k on custody? I don't. That number is probably how much he has spent on lawyer fees and fines from all his arrests.

I also like hpw Leah threw in the wheel chair was there. Probably because boards have been calling her on it since it was such a big deal last season and no where to be found this season

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[zenme]

No kidding. I think Adumb secretly loves that his parents are supposed to supervise visitation, because it means he can just fuck off whenever he wants and leave Aubree with them. This isn't the first time Chelsea has discovered that he has left her with the grandparents during his weekend.

 

Yeah, and I think he realizes that too, which makes it even sadder.  He indicated, "I'm still young..." Which he could've meant that he knows he has a lot of growing up to do, but it also says that he knows better.  Parenting is hard work, and I'm assuming Adam sees that and would rather leave the kids with his parents.  I wonder if the 50/50 custody means that Taylor gets no child support from Adam.  How does that work?  In any case, I'm sure it's a lot less than what Adam paid before the 50/50 custody.  

I don't blame Cole for not coming on stage, but the skeptic in me says that he was on board for the free vacay to LA--as was Jeremy.  He came to "support" Chelsea, but so did Randy.  They should have left that asshole Nathan at home too. 

I know it's been said before, but what was with all the shorts on stage?  Randy too?  He's a full-blown grown up.  He should know better.

[ghoulina]

I don't know, maybe the lack of dressing up in some of these people shows just how seriously they take "Dr" Drew and his parade of fuckery. I doubt someone like Corey has the need for a lot of collared shirts and slacks in his life. Damned, if I'm going to buy something nice just to sit there and let that poor excuse for a host take a shit all over me. I applaud them for not dressing up! 

 

(Except Nathan and Adumb who were dangerously close to making me need to scoop my eyes out with a melon baller.)

[cheatincheetos]

Does anyone actually believe he spent $40k on custody? I don't. That number is probably how much he has spent on lawyer fees and fines from all his arrests.

I think you are right! It was probably all involuntary expenses, and he's spinning it to make it look like he's choosing to spend that much because he cares about the kids.

 

They probably hired him at Pure Fitness because he wouldn't stop hanging around all day bothering them for a job. Maybe they think having him there will get more people to sign up to get a glimpse of the local "celebrity". As to how long he lasts there, that's another story.

I feel ashamed to admit this but I was distracted by Adam's package during his entire segment (not in a good way.) Holy crap those were some tight bell bottom jeans!

Any tighter and we would have seen the vasectomy scars (don't google-image that, btw).

[Tatum]

And Leah didn't congratulate them.

I don't put much stock in how many bedrooms a house claims to have. As it's out in the country, it could be old construction and a fixer-upper. Maybe he envisions ponies for the girls like Leah did.

When he posted the shaved-crotch selfies on Instagram, he said that he'd gone from weighing 135 to about 200 lbs in a single year. Is that possible without controlled substances?

I don't see a lot about Pure Fitness at a glance but it does have a Facebook page.

Is he claiming 65 pounds of pure muscle gained in one year? If so, my years on the myfitnesspal message boards say that's a lie. And even using steroids- at some point, you're going to get to the point of diminishing returns and to approximately double your muscle mass seems unlikely inside of a year. But yeah, I think not using steroids and eating a caloric surplus and a strict weight training regimen- no cardio- might net a lucky man 2-3 pounds of muscle weight per month, but not sure that could be kept up for 12 months. And if you're eating at a surplus, you're going to gain some fat along with muscle, no matter how "clean" you eat. That's why body builders do bulk and cut cycles.

[JocelynCavanaugh]

Adam is just so nasty and dumb and terrible looking. He kept trying to be all snide and dismissive and had no idea how he was actually coming across. I can't stand his stupid face, ugly tattoos, girl jeans, and dinosaur hair, but I could probably get past all of that if he weren't so obstinate and hateful about everything!

[monagatuna]

I'd hope that Miranda's beef with Leah is more over the myriad other issues she has and won't own up to and less about that situation. I don't know, but it rubs me the wrong way when a woman decides to forgive her man for cheating but places all the blame and hatred on the other woman who didn't actually owe her anything.

 

I agree with you; I hate it when people forgive the man, but the "other woman," who has not pledged to be faithful to her, doesn't get a forgive. I don't think that's what this is about, though. I think Miranda has just reached her breaking point. If this happened at the beginning of their relationship or even at the beginning of their marriage, I think Miranda forgave them both and accepted that she will never be rid of Leah. The reason I think this, is remember how cordial they all were last season, when they were all co-parenting well? Sure, that may have had something to do with the fact that Leah was with Germy and therefore less preoccupied with Corey, but as we all know, Leah being with one guy won't stop her from being with another guy too. I think Miranda had just had enough of her BS, and I have to say I think she handled it about as well as she possibly could have. Yeah, sure, she's probably a little less trusting of Leah now that Leah has no man in her life and could be gunning hard for Corey, which may be influencing her attitude, or it may be pregnancy hormones or insecurity that she's not as thin as she was before (not that I have any reason to believe this; I've just heard pregnant women referencing themselves as whales or whatever so I assume it's a common insecurity). All of these things are possible reasons why Miranda snapped at Leah, but I think the most obvious reason is that she is just sick and tired of cleaning up after her. Those two have to do SO MUCH work to reverse the damage Leah has done while the girls are in her care.

 

I also thought she looked stunning last night. She's always been beautiful, but pregnancy clearly agrees with her. Yet still Leah thinks she can snap her fingers and the men will come running.

[FairyDusted]

Fucking MONKEY! Seriously….. I'm so pissed off I can't even comment.

 

Ya'll do better than I ever can anydamnway.

 

MONKEY !!!!