chocolatine June 17, 2017 Share June 17, 2017 "Prince Farming" is a disgusting human being. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3382373
Artsda June 17, 2017 Share June 17, 2017 They got a warrant in a few hours, I don't think that was enough time for him to flush all the alcohol from his system to fool a test. Even if he had only one beer, that would have taken at longer to leave his system than it took for the warrant to come. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3382391
OnceSane June 17, 2017 Share June 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Artsda said: They got a warrant in a few hours, I don't think that was enough time for him to flush all the alcohol from his system to fool a test. Even if he had only one beer, that would have taken at longer to leave his system than it took for the warrant to come. IDA. It took hours to get and serve the warrant, giving Chris time to flush his system. And he might not have been visibly drunk, just over the legal limit so he shouldn't have been driving. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3382694
Artsda June 17, 2017 Share June 17, 2017 (edited) He had a blood test and a urine test. Unless they didn't serve that warrant for 3 days, there's no way he could pass both tests the way he did. Even if he was under the limit or at the limit it still would have shown up in at least the urine test as a blood alcohol level of something. Not nothing in his system at all. Edited June 17, 2017 by Artsda 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3382853
nutty1 July 13, 2017 Share July 13, 2017 (edited) Here is what I say to Ben Higgins being the Bachelor again.... http://www.tvguide.com/news/the-bachelor-ben-higgins-round-two/?ref=yfp Edited July 13, 2017 by nutty1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3452643
fib July 13, 2017 Share July 13, 2017 1 hour ago, nutty1 said: Here is what I say to Ben Higgins being the Bachelor again.... http://www.tvguide.com/news/the-bachelor-ben-higgins-round-two/?ref=yfp Couldnt agree more. Ben is boring. And said nothing of interest for a whole season. And his podcast with Ashley I is the most inane thing i have ever listened to. And his season sucked. And he treated Jojo terribly. No. please Fleiss. Id prefer Chad - at least he was funny. Just send him to rehab first. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3452899
chocolatine July 13, 2017 Share July 13, 2017 I'd rather they bring back Brad Womack for a third go-around. He's in his 40s now, so perhaps the ladies can all be - gasp! - over 30. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3452935
Artsda July 13, 2017 Share July 13, 2017 No not again. Grab Arie or one of the previous choices. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3453103
nutty1 July 13, 2017 Share July 13, 2017 I would love Jared. He is always so entertaining when I see him on Afterbuzz podcasts. I wish Brooks didn't have a girlfriend. He is also so witty and personable. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3453426
fib July 13, 2017 Share July 13, 2017 2 hours ago, nutty1 said: I would love Jared. He is always so entertaining when I see him on Afterbuzz podcasts. I wish Brooks didn't have a girlfriend. He is also so witty and personable. I havent seen him on those shows, but he seems SO BORING in everything Ive seen him in. And inarticulate. He is pretty though. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3453680
nutty1 July 13, 2017 Share July 13, 2017 Not sure where this should go.... I just listened to Afterbuzz. One of the girls lives next door to Nick and Vanessa. She said she always sees them separately, never together. Another one of the girls said she heard from a reliable source that a breakup will probably be happening in a few weeks. No clue how reliable this is. But I wouldn't be surprised. I never warmed to Vanessa at all. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3454193
NeverLate July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 12 hours ago, nutty1 said: Not sure where this should go.... I just listened to Afterbuzz. One of the girls lives next door to Nick and Vanessa. She said she always sees them separately, never together. Another one of the girls said she heard from a reliable source that a breakup will probably be happening in a few weeks. No clue how reliable this is. But I wouldn't be surprised. I never warmed to Vanessa at all. Nope, I didnt either. I'm not a fan of Nick's, so I don't care if they don't make it. He did however travel to Montreal to meet her parents and friends, and apparently had a really good time. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3456695
kingshearte July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 On 7/13/2017 at 7:44 AM, nutty1 said: I would love Jared. He is always so entertaining when I see him on Afterbuzz podcasts. But you just know that Ashley would show up and weep everywhere. I'm pretty sure Jared as Bachelor would be an unmitigated disaster. 20 hours ago, nutty1 said: I just listened to Afterbuzz. One of the girls lives next door to Nick and Vanessa. She said she always sees them separately, never together. Another one of the girls said she heard from a reliable source that a breakup will probably be happening in a few weeks. No clue how reliable this is. But I wouldn't be surprised. I never warmed to Vanessa at all. Unless you were watching my house constantly, you'd probably see a lot more of my husband and I coming and going separately than together, and we're certainly not on the verge of anything terrible, so that hardly seems like much of an indication of anything. I mean, it's a Bachelor relationship, so the odds suggest that there will be a breakup at some point, but I wouldn't consider not being joined at the hip at all times to be a sign of impending doom (if anything, the opposite, actually). 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3457105
Artsda July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 Lauren has a new boyfriend already. http://people.com/tv/lauren-bushnell-new-boyfriend-two-months-after-split-ben-higgins/ 9 hours ago, F. M. said: I just listened to Afterbuzz. One of the girls lives next door to Nick and Vanessa. She said she always sees them separately, never together. Vanessa's not even there, she's in Canada this week working on a project and Nick's coming to meet her. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3457251
chocolatine July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, Artsda said: Lauren has a new boyfriend already. http://people.com/tv/lauren-bushnell-new-boyfriend-two-months-after-split-ben-higgins/ I love how, when she and Ben were together, she kept complaining about all the attention, people recognizing them in public, etc., and now that she could retreat to a more private life if she wanted to, she keeps calling up People about her new boyfriend and her "fashion" shoots. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3457277
fib July 15, 2017 Share July 15, 2017 Erica Rose was on the podcast Why oh Why being touted as an amateur kissing expert. Ha! For anyone who wants to hear her "tips": https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/why-oh-why/id775053292?mt=2&i=389869837 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3460659
mistygracie July 19, 2017 Share July 19, 2017 (edited) On 7/14/2017 at 1:01 AM, F. M. said: Nope, I didnt either. I'm not a fan of Nick's, so I don't care if they don't make it. He did however travel to Montreal to meet her parents and friends, and apparently had a really good time. Please like to ask for the link of the Afterbuzz story! I love Nick, I've been a big fan of his since the Bachelor. He flew to Montreal for a day just to support Vanessa, & think that is very sweet of him. Hope the breakup rumors are not true, will be very sad if Nick goes through another breakup! :( Edited July 19, 2017 by mistygracie Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3470250
Palomar July 20, 2017 Share July 20, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 6:26 PM, mistygracie said: Please like to ask for the link of the Afterbuzz story! I love Nick, I've been a big fan of his since the Bachelor. He flew to Montreal for a day just to support Vanessa, & think that is very sweet of him. Hope the breakup rumors are not true, will be very sad if Nick goes through another breakup! :( I liked Vanessa (actually better than Nick). I liked how she kind of threatened to leave during some of the Corrine shenanigans. However, Nick has to know, meeting "the one" on reality TV and lasting does not have good odds. He's already had 3 experiences when it hasn't. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3475710
mistygracie July 20, 2017 Share July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Palomar said: I liked Vanessa (actually better than Nick). I liked how she kind of threatened to leave during some of the Corrine shenanigans. However, Nick has to know, meeting "the one" on reality TV and lasting does not have good odds. He's already had 3 experiences when it hasn't. Hi! I didn't liked when Vanessa threatened to leave due to Corinne shenanigans because it just made her look possessive and jealous. Now the gossip rags are making a big deal of Nick having lunch with Ashley http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4711598/Bachelor-Nick-Viall-lunches-castmate-Ashley-Iaconetti.html Vanessa has a new hosting job:) http://www.eonline.com/news/867909/freestyle-is-back-and-the-bachelor-s-vanessa-grimaldi-is-hosting Nick will be in the Hollywood Improv as part of a love discussion panal alongside Tatum O'Neal , & Vanessa as a guest presenter for this Montreal Gala :) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3475905
truthaboutluv July 20, 2017 Share July 20, 2017 Why would anyone make a big deal of Nick having lunch with Ashley? It's no secret that they're friends and I cannot imagine anyone thinks Nick would have any interest in Ashley or Ashley him since we all know there's only one man Ashley's been obsessed with. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3476014
fib July 21, 2017 Share July 21, 2017 1 hour ago, truthaboutluv said: Why would anyone make a big deal of Nick having lunch with Ashley? It's no secret that they're friends and I cannot imagine anyone thinks Nick would have any interest in Ashley or Ashley him since we all know there's only one man Ashley's been obsessed with. And seriously - no one leaves Vanessa for Ashley. If you didnt like the shi-shi high maintenance snobbery of a Quebecoise? You're not gonna like the low-rent Jersey version of the same damn thing. Don Draper didnt leave Megan for Peggy, and never would have. (No matter how much I liked Peggy, I think it probably worked out better for her nthat way. And Bless Ashley I, she aint no Peggy). 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3476269
Artsda July 21, 2017 Share July 21, 2017 It's Ashley. lol They're friends, the same reports came out when she was working with Ben. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3476282
mistygracie July 21, 2017 Share July 21, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, fib said: And seriously - no one leaves Vanessa for Ashley. If you didnt like the shi-shi high maintenance snobbery of a Quebecoise? You're not gonna like the low-rent Jersey version of the same damn thing. Don Draper didnt leave Megan for Peggy, and never would have. (No matter how much I liked Peggy, I think it probably worked out better for her nthat way. And Bless Ashley I, she aint no Peggy). I don't think Vanessa is such a snob, but her tweet about the streets of LA being smelly sounds kind of snobby ;) "I forgot how smelly downtown LA streets are." Also this article tries to paint Vanessa in a horrible light, which I think its BS :) https://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/vanessa-grimaldi-nick-viall-job-137312 Edited July 21, 2017 by mistygracie Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3476318
NeverLate July 21, 2017 Share July 21, 2017 So she gives up a rewarding career, to stay relevant onscreen. LOL They are all the same, bkech! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3476912
Bugs Meany July 21, 2017 Share July 21, 2017 11 hours ago, fib said: And seriously - no one leaves Vanessa for Ashley. If you didnt like the shi-shi high maintenance snobbery of a Quebecoise? You're not gonna like the low-rent Jersey version of the same damn thing. Way to stereotype. Ashley grew up in northern Virginia, her dad is a doctor and they have a nice big house with a pool. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3477320
truthaboutluv July 21, 2017 Share July 21, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, F. M. said: So she gives up a rewarding career, to stay relevant onscreen. LOL They are all the same, bkech! Yes because it is much more interesting for some to write about this new thing she's doing (which by the way is an online show and not a show on the actual E! channel) and use it to pass judgement, while completely ignoring how since the show's ended she's successfully laid the foundation for her charity and has since even planned and successfully executed a fundraiser that raised $30,000 in one day to help fund special needs teachers/programs in Montreal. But I guess that doesn't fit the narrative most want to have about her. Edited July 21, 2017 by truthaboutluv 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3477409
nutty1 July 22, 2017 Share July 22, 2017 Vanessa will be co-hosting a live style show on E's Facebook every Thursday. When it comes to celeb beauty and fashion trends, who can keep up? Well, we can, and you can too, thanks to the return of freeSTYLE. You heard that right: E!'s very own Facebook Live show, which invites celeb experts to discuss gotta-have (and/or gotta-play with) products, plus step-by-step makeup tutorials, is back with all new episodes! But that's not the most exciting part. The show is back in action with a brand-new co-host and familiar face: Vanessa Grimaldi. You might recognize the Canadian beauty from Nick Viall's season of The Bachelor. If you tuned in to The Bachelor, you probably couldn't take your eyes off of her gorgeous brunette locks and perfectly placed makeup. And if you follow Nick's fiancé on Instagram, she's still killing it the beauty department. Thankfully, now that she'll be joining us live every Thursday along with co-hosts Sibley Scoles and Zuri Hall. (Yes, you'll have a chance to comment, question and get tips from Vanessa herself when you watch the show live.) http://m.eonline.com/amp/news/867909/freestyle-is-back-and-the-bachelor-s-vanessa-grimaldi-is-hosting Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3480736
JenE4 July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 On 7/21/2017 at 8:34 AM, Bugs Meany said: Way to stereotype. Ashley grew up in northern Virginia, her dad is a doctor and they have a nice big house with a pool. I'm from Jersey, and I give FIB a pass. It was funny! I live in the town that's nestled between where Ashley I and Teresa from RHNJ live. So, I can speak to no monetarily "low rent" housing in the suburbs of NYC, but I get where FIB was coming from with Ashley having a slightly lower maintenance than Vanessa, but still high maintenance nontheless. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3485959
fib July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 4 hours ago, JenE4 said: I'm from Jersey, and I give FIB a pass. It was funny! I live in the town that's nestled between where Ashley I and Teresa from RHNJ live. So, I can speak to no monetarily "low rent" housing in the suburbs of NYC, but I get where FIB was coming from with Ashley having a slightly lower maintenance than Vanessa, but still high maintenance nontheless. Lol. Thx. It has nothing to do with where shes from (and honestly, i grew up in Jersey and moved to within 20 minutes of where Ashley went to high school.). It has to do with the way she presents herself. She was "Ashley Kardashian" for a long time on these boards and embraced it. I think she is in LA now, but she lived in New York's Jersey suburbs for a long time. She had talked about how she would take the train to visit Jared in Boston and how he would visit her in Nee York. FWIW, I respect the hell out of Ashley I. She has masterfully monopolized screentime and gotten a career out of this show in a way most participants want and few succeed. But I still think she is poor substitute for Vanessa, who is a bit prettier, curvier, and more exotic in all the right ways. Vanessa gets places on her looks and maybe her brains. Ashley I is all hustle, which is pretty awesome. But she comes across as needy and desperate, whereas Vanessa comes across as aspirational. I just dont think swapping Vanessa for Ashley I would be considered trading up. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3486858
Bugs Meany July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 4 hours ago, fib said: Etc. I can respect all that :) I mistakenly thought you were taking a cheap shot. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3487705
JudyObscure July 25, 2017 Share July 25, 2017 On 7/22/2017 at 0:23 PM, nutty1 said: If you tuned in to The Bachelor, you probably couldn't take your eyes off of her gorgeous brunette locks and perfectly placed makeup. "Perfectly placed make-up." Heee! Thank heavens we're going to have Vanessa to show us how to place our make-up. I've been putting my lipstick on my chin! Six thousand make-up tutorials on YouTube, were never enough for me. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3489217
waving feather July 29, 2017 Share July 29, 2017 Speaking of Ashley I, I think she's in a new Fall Out Boy music video, at around 1:30. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3501381
JudyObscure July 29, 2017 Share July 29, 2017 (edited) Oh no! Now they'll all be encouraged. Just three or four years of demeaning yourself on the Bachelor franchise and you might get to be in a music video!" Edited July 29, 2017 by JudyObscure 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3501815
mistygracie July 29, 2017 Share July 29, 2017 Nick, Vanessa, Becca, Ashley, & Dean were at the Clayton Kershaw's 5th Annual Ping Pong 4 Purpose event on July 27, 2017. Dean & Nick playing ping pong in one pic :) More pics found at https://instagram.com/bachelor.bachelorettenation 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3502109
NeverLate July 29, 2017 Share July 29, 2017 Dean looks happy, I'm glad he got over his heartbreak, and is safely ensconced in anything bachelor nation. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3502134
AuntieDiane6 July 30, 2017 Share July 30, 2017 Quote Dean looks happy, I'm glad he got over his heartbreak, and is safely ensconced in anything bachelor nation. Uh ... that crotch ... no. Just no. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3502343
fib July 30, 2017 Share July 30, 2017 14 hours ago, AuntieDiane6 said: Uh ... that crotch ... no. Just no. Theres a lot wrong with a lot of the crotches in that photo:Ashley, Becca, Dean. Ouch. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3503280
dbell1 July 31, 2017 Share July 31, 2017 That photo is painful to look at. It's like they're auditioning for "What Not to Wear, D List". 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3504833
chocolatine July 31, 2017 Share July 31, 2017 Ill-fitting jeans aside, who wears stilettos to a ping-pong tournament??? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3504949
waving feather July 31, 2017 Share July 31, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, dbell1 said: That photo is painful to look at. It's like they're auditioning for "What Not to Wear, D List". Only Nick and Vanessa look relatively normal. Did Becca do anything to her face? It's looking weird. Edited July 31, 2017 by waving feather 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3505411
Bugs Meany July 31, 2017 Share July 31, 2017 5 hours ago, waving feather said: Only Nick and Vanessa look relatively normal. Did Becca do anything to get face? It's looking weird. Becca looks quite different from season 19 episode 1. Vanessa dressed casual there and still outshines Becca and Ashley. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3505675
Mabinogia July 31, 2017 Share July 31, 2017 I kinda love Vanessa for wearing sneakers to an event where you're going to be standing and moving around a lot. The other two look ridiculous in their illfitting jeans and stilettos. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3505807
fib July 31, 2017 Share July 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Bugs Meany said: Becca looks quite different from season 19 episode 1. Vanessa dressed casual there and still outshines Becca and Ashley. I think its just bad makeup. She is too monotone, with her overbronzed skin and ombre hair. Combine that with Nightime eyes (heavy lashes and mascara, with light sparkly eyeshadow), and its just not right for a daytime setting. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3506088
ByTor July 31, 2017 Share July 31, 2017 13 hours ago, waving feather said: Did Becca do anything to her face? It's looking weird. Her mouth looks like it's succumbed to the charms of the Botox injection. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3507014
Koalagirl August 3, 2017 Share August 3, 2017 Sean Lowe will be on the new season of Celebrity Worst Cooks in America. I just saw the promo on the Food Network. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3517490
mistygracie August 5, 2017 Share August 5, 2017 In case you missed it, Vanessa Grimaldi's 2nd episode of E!'s FreeStyle", in certain angles, she looks like Penelope Cruz! https://www.facebook.com/enews/videos/10154622275205736/ Also here is some of Vanessa's early acting work: 2010's "Blue Mountain State": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZTYkWDHTrQ and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmm_m6x6yeU Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3520783
Koalagirl August 5, 2017 Share August 5, 2017 Daniel and Vinny were on Patti Stanger's Millionaire Matchmaker last night. She set them up with various to meet and each one had to decide which girl to go on a date with. Vinny was a sweetheart and Daniel was a bit of a narcissist which Patti called him out on but all in all both guys did ok. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3522557
truthaboutluv August 7, 2017 Share August 7, 2017 Juan Pablo is a married man. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3528102
JudyObscure August 7, 2017 Share August 7, 2017 Juan Pablo probably thought he needed to keep the wedding secret so when they asked if anyone had an objection Andi wouldn't pop up and say , "Eees not okay!" 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3528131
Koalagirl August 8, 2017 Share August 8, 2017 Chad has been appearing on the series Famously Single. This is a completely different Chad than we saw on the Bachelorette or BIP. He is showing a lot more vulnerability and can be quite charming. He is trying to woo Karina Smirnoff from Dancing with the Stars. She has been playing mind games with him but to his credit he has hung in there and behaved. So I wonder which is the real Chad - the one we've seen in the Bachelor franchise or this one? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/278-the-bachelor-in-the-media/page/31/#findComment-3530625
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