Season 4 Talk

[Petunia13]

Why would anyone want to fill a bathtub with Flamin Hot Cheetos?

Britney Spears would be offended by that question.

[zoeysmom]

"I'll take a holograph test!!!" wins the internet today. Oh, GG tried so hard to sound sincere and contrite but she was so hammered that all the words just ran right into each other. She is the worst kind of scum, waiting a full year until the cameras came back around to guarantee maximum damage from her wrecking ball victim complex.

GG never claimed to have been raped or assaulted by Mike. The whole of her "shocking confession" amounts to them both boozing it up (seems there may have been some pills involved, too...) one night in Turkey, he trailed her to her room, she shut him down, good night. Neither of them really knows what happened bc they were both too blitzed to have even an outside chance of remembering. Mike is freaked out because he knows it very likely MAY have happened (and there MAY be footage of it) and GG is just thirsty for relevance. She can take her Mork swim outfit, and her holograph test, and get lost.

IRL Mike/Jessica got married last weekend. Instagram pics show Asa, Reza/Adam, and Asifa among the attendees. No sign of Lochnessa anywhere.

GG seemed to be quite convinced that her news would break Jessica and Mike up.  There is something off about her timing, her delivery and her reasons for wanting to pursue this with Mike  It just comes off as someone who needed to be the center of attention because she doesn't have a boyfriend. I do think these folks become incredibly inappropriate and cross boundaries but GG seems to think that Mike spends all his time "trying" to eff  all these women.  I would think on occasion the guy might be successful.  The rest of the cast did a horrible job of trying to keep Mike there.  No you are not guilty for leaving you are a moron to stay and further humiliate your girlfriend.  I doubt Jessica gets a paycheck and she should not give GG the time of day.

Edited March 31, 2015 by zoeysmom

[Brooke0707]

I thought it was interesting they bleeped show like it is a curse word and Jessica kept breaking the fourth wall when she wanted to rip off the mic and didn't want to be on camera. Yet didn't she just get married today and hashtag shahs?

I believe GG. Mike acted super guilty. Forget him not staying, when she said he fucked her, his immediate reaction IMO was more "oh shit" and not so much "WTF are you talking about?" If she was totally making shit up, you would think he'd be like "what are you talking about? When? Which night? How?"

[lasandi]

For me it's not whether GG is telling the truth or not, it's that NOTHING HAPPENED. Did I miss something? GG didn't say she was raped, assaulted, or inappropriately touched in any way. He was drunk, she was drunk, he tried and she said no. They never spoke of it again. He didn't harrass her about it or continue to pursue her about it. So one year later, why was there a need for everyone to know that Mike "wanted" her? Wait a minute, let me rephrase that -- need for everyone to know that drunken" Mike wanted her? You wait for cameras and shout it out in the middle of a gathering for maximum effect and attention. We know GG is a hothead, so waiting 365 days to react to something that bothered her so much is totally out of character.

[Watermelon]

Totes believe GG. I also believe she's a shitty person who only told what happened for attention and to break up Mike and Jessica.  If you wanted to tell Jess, you had a perfect time when you were wherever yall were taking selfies. You screamed it out in front of everybody because you have no social skills beyond being a drama missile.

 

I still don't believe she's traumatized by whatever happened in Turkey, she seems more upset Mike doesn't stare at her personally like a piece of meat anymore.

[SistaLadybug]

I believe her and I believe she was traumatized.  Many women have been in her shoes.  When she was talking about how she knew no one would believe her because she's been shitty in the past, my heart broke for her.  I don't know why she waited a year.  There are women who wait 10 years.  There are women who never tell.  I could believe that it came out when it did because all of a sudden, she's faced with this dude every time she gets together with her friends and he's all "in love" and cozied up with Jessica and he's acting super aggressive and generally ass-ish and now he's about to propose and he's spreading that around the group and folks are supposed to be excited and it all just became too much.  GG doesn't have coping skills.  We've all seen that.  She doesn't respond to anything appropriately.  If she didn't feel that she'd been sexually assaulted but was still uncomfortable with what went down, she probably should've talked to Mike and/or Jessica about it, but I don't think she wanted to break them up at all.  I think she's one of those people (like Brandi from RHOBH) who's all, "How dare you act like you're better than me!  You're not better than me!  You're a hypocrite!" and this was her way of being a "truth cannon".  It caused a mess, but it wasn't a mess she created alone.  I believe every word she said and I believe that Mike knows he tried it and Jessica does, too.

[trimthatfat]

Jessica looked positively gutted after the announcement. Part of me thinks that this isn't the first time she's been told that Mike has tried to cheat. 

 

I honestly think it's wrong for Mike to get upset with Asa and MJ. They were put in very uncomfortable positions and clearly did not know what to do. I find it quite interesting that not once did anyone say 'Mike did that? He would NEVER!' after GG told everyone what happened.

[lasandi]

Traumatized by a man wanting to kick it with her and when she said no, took it no further? Unless there is something more then what she has said, I don't get it. Unless she is such great friends with Jessica and the thought of her friends' fiancé being less than honorable behind her back was more than she could bear, then maybe I can see her being upset. Afterall my friend should know what a dog he is. However, me only finally telling it because Mike wrote "bad pic" on my picture and is not kissing my arse when I hold this secret over his head, is so uncool. The GG I have come to know on this reality show would have blabbed that shit as soon as she was sober! Bloody hell she would have blabbed it while she was still drunk if anyone was around to hear it. For the record, I do believe he hit on GG, I just don't believe her over the top anger after all this time.

Edited March 31, 2015 by lasandi

[MollyZee]

I find it quite interesting that not once did anyone say 'Mike did that? He would NEVER!' after GG told everyone what happened.

 

What I found fascinating (and yet very revealing in terms of how these imbeciles all operate like a bunch of kindergarteners) was how Reza kept on revisiting the "pinky swear" like that's some sort of binding legal contract. Even as a social contract, the "pinky swear" doesn't carry much weight for anyone over the age of 5 or 6.

 

To be clear, I am sure Mike tried to put to moves on her, which was completely inappropriate vis-a-vis his serious gf at home. But from the little footage we HAVE seen of that night, there's Mike literally dropping his hand down the back of GG's pants and grabbing her actual ass while she giggles drunkenly and leans into him, telling the group about her thong panties. Mike is a lowlife who needs to check himself for sure, but in those circumstances, given what we have been shown, it isn't completely outrageous for him to have assumed she was giving him the green light. Throw in some serious jetlag, loads of booze and pills/coke, and GG's version of events absolutely starts to ring true. But according to her, she drew a line at some point, and when Mike crossed it, she sent him packing - AND HE LEFT.  

 

No one (except Mike) accused GG of making it up or being a liar, not from her earliest "truth telling" at the floor-picnic in Asa's house. What they *did* urge her to do was keep her mouth shut about it, or at least find an appropriate time/place to discuss it calmly and privately with Mike. GG is fundamentally incapable of doing anything without amplifying the drama and trashbox factor up to Defcon 1, though, so she was no doubt gleefully counting down the days until Shervin's party when she could SPEAK HER TRUTH in front as as many witnesses as possible, wreaking havoc on the social dynamics and potentially ruining Mike & Jessica's relationship. 

 

I never thought I'd say this about a man who bathed in soggy Cheetos, but Shervin was the most sane one of them all throughout. He repeatedly stated that he was uncomfortable being in possession of information that Mike did not have any knowledge of, he told the rest of the group calmly that he was going to share that info with Mike, and he did just that. He went a step further by asking GG what she had hoped to gain from dropping that bomb at that time - he clearly said (paraphrasing) "what did you want out of this, anyway?" and GG had no answer for him. That was when she pulled Sherv aside, let the waterworks flow, and offered to take the "holograph test." But it was never about whether she's telling the truth - hell, Mike's reputation as a womanizer and his behavior after GG confronted him at the party is as close to confirmation as we could hope for - and that's where GG's "truth cannon" is about to backfire. 

[RococoChanel]

I think Mike did it. Granted I don't know him personally nor do I know how every innocent person acts, but nobody once said "Mike would never do that," nor did he do anything besides deflect blame. As we all know, deflecting blame is something guilty people do. They said I did x, but I'm mad because they didn't do y. That's why! It's like, dude, why were you mad at Reza, Asa and MJ? They had nothing to do with it and were put in an awful situation. It wasn't their place to come to you; it was GG's. 

 

GG may have anger problems but she has never been shown to be a liar and there is Mike on tape playing with her thong in Turkey (they played it back). 

 

I don't like Jessica but I truly felt bad for her. Her face said it all. I think this is not the first time she's heard a similar accusation and she looked crushed. I think she can do so much better than Mike, and I don't even particularly like her. 

[Baltimore Betty]

Why is Mike so crazy over Jessica?  She is going to get quite large when she is older if how she is already blowing up is any indication---and Mike seems very visually motivated.  Also she is crazy and really annoying.  Really she actually wore that bikini monstrosity on national TV?

I thought the Herve Leger bathing suit Jessic wore would have looked better on a thinner, stick like Hollywood type person but it really went south when she paired it with the Daisy Dukes...that was right after she said that GG was not classy, lol. 

When GG dropped the bomb about Mike Jessica's expression looked genuine and I felt a little sad for her...was she thinking, "here we go again" because she has reason to believe he is not faithful? 

It would be horrible of GG to suggest Mike tried to sexually assault her if it is not true but Mike can say the same about all of them when they barged in to his Cabo hotel room and got physical with him so they could try and see him naked...an assault is an assault.

The hired girls at that party, just oy.  I am on the fence about Shreve (name?) and the purchase of that house, renting, yes but a purchase?  What does he do for money?  Cheeto modeling or Cheeto gigilo?

 

So those pictures of Mike and Jessica were wedding photos and not an elaborate engagement party?

 

 

[politichick]

What I want to know is WTF has Jessica done to her face? She looks so plastic and seems to be heading into Jocelyn Wildenstein territory. 

[MollyZee]

She looks so plastic and seems to be heading into Jocelyn Wildenstein territory. 

Agree, and while she has a nice figure, that Herve Leger one-piece did her no favors. That weird smock/poncho kept sliding out of place, and the Daisy Duke cutoffs made the whole thing look really low-rent. 

 

Of course, that was all easy to forgive once GG rolled through in her absurd MC Hammer getup and started showing her ass to everyone. Made the hired hookers look classy by comparison.

[MollyZee]

Your traumatic experience notwithstanding, fliptopbox, there has never been any accusation of a violent assault here. GG has only self-righteously postulated that Mike has no business even considering marriage seriously in light of the fact that he is still trying to get with other girls. Exhibit A: "He tried to fuck me in Turkey!!" No one said rape, abuse, or any kind of threat. The situations are simply not comparable. 

[charmed1]

I am on the fence about Shreve (name?) and the purchase of that house, renting, yes but a purchase? What does he do for money? Cheeto modeling or Cheeto gigilo?

Ok can someone explain the house thing? I'm genuinely confused. I thought Shervin and the other guy Nima(?) were a couple and MJ was the realtor they used to buy their house together. And then she convinced them to throw a party there. But I didn't understand what the party was for, because Adam already has his birthday party last week, right?

And then MJ said that Shervin hasn't been getting any ass, so I figured they weren't a couple, but that she was still referring to male ass. But then the Nima guy started talking about how he got lots of women from Instagram because of his Cheetos pictures. At that point, I was even more confused. And then some camera person zoomed in on Shervin's boy parts.

What is the deal? Are those two brothers? (Same build; same weird Deiter from Sprockets haircut) I really did not understand that scene at all.

Edited March 31, 2015 by charmed1

[lasandi]

Regarding Mike running away; Jessica wanted to leave. She said in no uncertain terms that she didn't care about the show, she wanted out of there. I think she even told Mike to take off his mic. I imagine it was all embarrassing and hurtful for her to hear this betrayal, at a party in front of everybody. So for me, in this instance, him running away does not say guilty.

Edited March 31, 2015 by lasandi

[Watermelon]

There was really no way Mike staying would have done any good.  Gigi can't yell shit out like that in front of Jessica and think that she's not going to react. Had Jess been made to stay it would have been super terrible.

 

I can understand why Mike is mad at Asa, Reza and MJ.  All of you know this secret, and now at this point you know Gigi has gone beyond the group to tell Asifa, Bobby and Shervin.  Who knows who else would have heard the rumor by the time Gigi got around to finally confronting Mike.  How do you let one of your friends go around spreading rumors about your other friend and never give a heads up? Not even a, "Hey, you may wanna talk to Gigi, she seems upset with you"? 

[BucFan]

Regarding Mike running away; Jessica wanted to leave. She said in no uncertain terms that she didn't care about the show, she wanted out of there. I think she even told Mike to take off his mic. I imagine it was all embarrassing and hurtful for her to hear this betrayal, at a party in front of everybody. So for me, in this instance, him running away does not say guilty.

I agree. Jessica kept saying things like "Don't talk on camera. Don't talk to them. Let's get out of here.I want to leave now" etc.

[HunterHunted]

Forget it.

I wish you had not deleted your post. I thought it was great and illustrative about all of the things that might be impacting GG.

Your traumatic experience notwithstanding, fliptopbox, there has never been any accusation of a violent assault here. GG has only self-righteously postulated that Mike has no business even considering marriage seriously in light of the fact that he is still trying to get with other girls. Exhibit A: "He tried to fuck me in Turkey!!" No one said rape, abuse, or any kind of threat. The situations are simply not comparable.

No, they are not exactly comparable. But I was in a play when I was in high school with an actor who would go on to be fairly famous. He sexually assaulted quite a few of the female cast members. None of it was violent, all of it was unwelcome. When it first happened I was 16 and I joked about about the ridiculousness of it. As I've grown older, I've become incensed that this man thought so little of me that he had no qualms about groping me in public or putting his hand up my skirt. I feel like what happened with Mike and GG fit into this type of situation. She thought he was a good guy, he went too far, and she's keying into his infidelity instead of his assaultive behavior.

I don't know what happened between Mike and GG, but I'm not going to dismiss her reaction and behavior as inconsistent or out of hand. He might have gone too far while they were drinking, but her mind can only handle the fact he is violating his committed relationship.

[trimthatfat]

I can understand why Mike is mad at Asa, Reza and MJ.  All of you know this secret, and now at this point you know Gigi has gone beyond the group to tell Asifa, Bobby and Shervin.  Who knows who else would have heard the rumor by the time Gigi got around to finally confronting Mike.  How do you let one of your friends go around spreading rumors about your other friend and never give a heads up? Not even a, "Hey, you may wanna talk to Gigi, she seems upset with you"? 

I think their hesitation in talking to Mike directly is that he had been out of contact with the group for the most part for some time, and now they are all back together for filming. It was said by Adam that Mike doesn't return texts or phone calls when the group reaches out off-camera, so I think they might not have had a chance to speak to him.

[Watermelon]

I think their hesitation in talking to Mike directly is that he had been out of contact with the group for the most part for some time, and now they are all back together for filming. It was said by Adam that Mike doesn't return texts or phone calls when the group reaches out off-camera, so I think they might not have had a chance to speak to him.

Even if he doesn't return texts, as a friend I'd think that would be the time I'd send one, just to say, "you may wanna try to speak to Gigi. She's upset about Turkey" Boom, you kept the secret and you did your part for your other friend.

To just say nothing isn't ok to me.

[trimthatfat]

Even if he doesn't return texts, as a friend I'd think that would be the time I'd send one, just to say, "you may wanna try to speak to Gigi. She's upset about Turkey" Boom, you kept the secret and you did your part for your other friend.

To just say nothing isn't ok to me.

I didn't say it was okay. I agree that it's questionable. I was just providing a possible explanation. If this happened before the friendship breakdown, I think Asa, MJ, and Reza would have told Mike immediately.

[SistaLadybug]

There is a way to violate/commit sexual violence that is short of rape.  Not to mention that sometimes women don't want to admit/can't allow themselves to believe that they were assaulted by someone who they know/care about.  Who knows what took place?  GG might even be questioning herself.  Who's to say when something crosses the line from "made a pass at" to "tried to force"?  Only GG can say whether she felt that Mike tried to force her to do something and even if she doesn't, she can still feel violated/uncomfortable/hurt.  I can say from experience that when someone you thought of as a friend tries to make that friendship into something sexual when you don't want that, it can be horrible and disconcerting.  You question yourself: "Did I say/do something to make him think I was open to that?"  Given that they'd both been drinking/popping pills, GG might even blame herself for part of it.  Instead of deal with it in what many people would think of as a healthy manner, she's lashing out.  She's alone and angry while Mike gets married and acts like nothing ever happened.  It has to be frustrating beyond belief.

[gaPeach]

I don't think GG lied but what she originally told the other 3 was "of course hes not ready to get married he tried fucking me in Turkey".  Now its like he tried raping her.  We don't know what happened really and as others have said they were drinking popping pills and all over each other he probably did try to do her and she said no and that was it.  I thought her POINT was he is not ready to get married because he tries to sleep around.  By the time the party started she acted like she was traumatized by what happened.  Seems like the story is getting much bigger than what It originally was.

 

And as someone posted up thread that night MJ and GG broke into Mike's room (who was obviously wasted drunk.....I mean can't even talk straight I have no idea what is going on drunk) and practically stripped him naked (or did they?) was highly inappropriate but this group is always doing crap like that to each other.  What Mike did by trying to get some was well within the boundaries this group has with each other. 

 

I just can't for any reason excuse how GG handle it..or should I say didn't handle it.  No matter what you think of Jessica that was cruel and the look on Jessica's face was just too sad.  I don't blame her for wanting to leave and not get the whole drama on tape. 

[Neurochick]

No, they are not exactly comparable. But I was in a play when I was in high school with an actor who would go on to be fairly famous. He sexually assaulted quite a few of the female cast members. None of it was violent, all of it was unwelcome. When it first happened I was 16 and I joked about about the ridiculousness of it. As I've grown older, I've become incensed that this man thought so little of me that he had no qualms about groping me in public or putting his hand up my skirt. I feel like what happened with Mike and GG fit into this type of situation. She thought he was a good guy, he went too far, and she's keying into his infidelity instead of his assaultive behavior.

 

I don't know what happened between Mike and GG, but I'm not going to dismiss her reaction and behavior as inconsistent or out of hand. He might have gone too far while they were drinking, but her mind can only handle the fact he is violating his committed relationship.

 

 

I agree with this.  Just because someone is not an angel and can be a witch sometimes, doesn't mean they can't be a victim.  GG has never said that Mike tried to rape her, she said he tried to fuck her in Turkey.  I think something happened between them and the next day they pretended like nothing happened.  Maybe GG wanted to talk about it then, but Mike never said anything.  So now it's a year later and Mike is going to propose to Jessica (who I can't stand for some reason), GG probably feels, like, "you're going to propose to her and you've never said anything to me about what happened?'  

 

It would be one thing if Mike had done something with some anonymous woman, someone he didn't know, but maybe GG feels betrayed because she thought Mike was her friend.  

[OnceSane]

We have a "Don't Be A Dick" policy here. This means snark away on the show, but not on your fellow posters. Carry on.

[HunterHunted]

Why would anyone want to fill a bathtub with Flamin Hot Cheetos?

I don't understand how it helped their game. I get that there might be one or two girls would think "ha ha that's dumb/funny", but is that enough to justify the cost and waste? Also Shervin doesn't need a cheetos bath. Shervin can get girls because Shervin looks like Shervin. He's like a hotter, saner, less drunk version of Mike. I hope we can keep him, especially because the Fiji water princess doesn't like the " bleep."

[Lakewood27]

I don't understand how it helped their game. I get that there might be one or two girls would think "ha ha that's dumb/funny", but is that enough to justify the cost and waste? Also Shervin doesn't need a cheetos bath. Shervin can get girls because Shervin looks like Shervin.

MJ as much as admitted she encouraged Sherv to do the Flaming Hot Cheetos bath just to fuck with him. And he was gullible enough to go along with it. The way MJ likes to mind fuck and manipulate her friends just for her own amusement often reminds me of the Marquise de Merteuil character from Dangerous Liaisons. Especially with possessiveness over Reza. No shade. She is a fascinating reality character.

Edited April 1, 2015 by Lakewood27

[Giselle]

 Shervin can get girls because Shervin looks like Shervin........... I hope we can keep him,

 

Yes to the above.

 

I prefer guys who have hair on their chest, but he does look good  and  He seems nice.  Bravo hasn't shown us enough of who he is, but he seems like a good addition, more so then Asifa and Mike 2.0.

[bagger]

Jessica wants NO part of 'Shahs of Sunset'. This is the second time this season that she's ripped off her mic pack and stormed off. She's not having it. Unless her wedding was sponsered by Bravo, there's no incentive for her to comply with these shenanigans. She doesn't need the money or the attention. I agree with those who think she probably issued an ultimatum to Mike that this is his last season.

I think Jessica wants all of Shahs until they make her look like a fool. If she didn't want the good edit she wouldn't be modeling her bathing suit in front of the cameras while it's just her and Mike in their apartment.

[Morbs]

I thought the cheeto bathtub was a Britney Spears reference, that's how skewed my way of thinking is now due to all the Godney tumblrs I follow that photoshop her in Cheeto custumes.

[OnceSane]

I love that MJ was just fucking with Sherwin, that's the good times I like to see with these folks. My stomach mourns the Cheetos that died for the cause, though.

Mike vs. Everyone Else Except Jessica sounds like a shitty season. IDK what went on but I think Sherwin was right in saying only Mike and GG would ever know the full truth.

[Rottiemommie]

Ok so upon rewatching after reading all of your replies:

1. GG definitely gets the word "polygraph" correct and does not turn it into "holograph" although she is approaching the slurring words territory in her sit down with Sherwin.

2. Speaking of, where the hell did Sherwin come from and how did he get to be such a big part in all of this so quickly? Like you have all supposedly known the "new guy" a hot minute yet he's privy to all the secrets of the group.

3. Asa was definitely playing both sides of the fence here. At the limo she was telling Mike that she sees his side that's why she ran down there yet she told GG that she believes her too. Which is it? You are from Iran not Switzerland aziz-am (Farsi for my dear I believe).

All that aside, I can't effing wait for next week!! Vanderpump who??

Edited April 1, 2015 by Rottiemommie

[lasandi]

All that aside, I can't effing wait for next week!! Vanderpump who??

LOL, yeah what Rottiemommie said.

[racked]

I like Shervin. He's like a better looking less angry mike.

Mike was so decent a couple of seasons ago with the guy Reza was being awful to because he thought he was too gay. It really raised my opinion of him as a decent human being. This season though he's a mess. That said, GG's story sounds like it did not happen the way she said. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

[missy jo]

MollyZee Shervin was the most sane one of them all throughout. He repeatedly stated that he was uncomfortable being in possession of information that Mike did not have any knowledge of, he told the rest of the group calmly that he was going to share that info with Mike, and he did just that. He went a step further by asking GG what she had hoped to gain from dropping that bomb at that time - he clearly said (paraphrasing) "what did you want out of this, anyway?" and GG had no answer for him.

 

 

Yes, his behavior made perfect sense, both in being uncomfortable with the information, and with asking GG what her motive was. I can't see any motive other than trying to break up an engagement. She could have confronted Mike if it were about his behavior, or spoken directly with Jessica if it was out of concern for her. But no, it was out of spite over an Instagram photo.

 

Watermelon, I also understand why Mike was pissed off. If all my friends knew about a story that one of our friends was telling, whether true or not, they'd better tell me, too! And no, Reza, a "pinky swear" is not a valid excuse.

Edited April 1, 2015 by missy jo

[ticklemepink]

"Some (wo)men just want to watch the world burn" - Alfred Pennyworth speaking prescient words about GG Gharachedaghi

[driedfruit]

Also Shervin doesn't need a cheetos bath. Shervin can get girls because Shervin looks like Shervin. 

 

Yes, definitely. I'm not even attracted to men and I still admire. 

[Ubiquitous]

There is something wrong with Mike for sure, he looks bloated and just unwell, the crazy eyes are not helping either.

I can't imagine anyone looking at him and thinking he'd be a great choice as their realtor, he just looks shifty and like a creepy schemer.

I cannot articulate it, but there's something odd about Mike this season.

I have no clue about GG's story, but it seems like she loves to tell people about it.

[kacesq]

I finally saw this episode last night and I'm sorry, a grown man running around going "we pinky sweared!"  Seriously, Reza? You're pushing 40 and a pinky swear is some kind of solemn, binding contract?

 

I don't think I blame Mike for leaving. I'd be pissed as hell and I don't know what's to be gained for him by staying there and "talking" to GG about the incident.

 

Can we keep Shervin?

[OnceSane]

Mike separates from the group in the wake of a revelation by GG. Meanwhile, the crew contemplate their friendships and sharpen their focus on their love lives; MJ and her boyfriend gear up for a brunch with her mother; Asifa and Bobby move in together; and Mike pops a big question to his girlfriend.

[KYBlonde]

I finally saw this episode last night and I'm sorry, a grown man running around going "we pinky sweared!"  Seriously, Reza? You're pushing 40 and a pinky swear is some kind of solemn, binding contract?

 

I don't think I blame Mike for leaving. I'd be pissed as hell and I don't know what's to be gained for him by staying there and "talking" to GG about the incident.

 

Can we keep Shervin?

 

I thought only Kimmy Gibbler, DJ and Stephanie Tanner pinky sweared!  Learn something new every day!!

[Vanderboom]

I'd like to keep Shervin, too, but I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. Remember, a season or two ago, Mike was the sanest and most mature member of the group.

[fliptopbox]

I thought only Kimmy Gibbler, DJ and Stephanie Tanner pinky sweared!  Learn something new every day!!

I rarely pinkie swore, but a friend and I have an inside joke of "pinkie salute!!" every time we hang out or talk to each other. We've been doing it for so long I don't even remember how it started. But that's nowhere near saying "I can't tell you something cos I told _____ pinkie swear.". That's just juvenile.

[trimthatfat]

I missed the Cheeto bath so I didn't understand the comments here about it, but now that I've seen the scene, I think it's one of the funniest things I've seen on this show. Shame about the waste though - I used to love Cheetos!

[The Solution]

Hmm, I thought Golnesa believed that this game would allow her to have Mike all for herself.

 

But then, I also though Shervin and Nima were into each other.

[Rahul]

But then, I also though Shervin and Nima were into each other.

 

They might be. I'm not buying either one of them as straight.

[Watermelon]

I don't really know what to make of GG. She says Mike didn't force himself on her, she says he stopped when she asked. 

 

If I take her at her word, and I will because my brain can't be bothered, there's really no reason for her to have 1) waited a year to tell them Mike tried to have sex with her  and 2) to be so upset about it.

 

She's absolutely jealous Mike is on the road to marriage while whoever her man was, broke up with her.

[fliptopbox]

...

Edited April 7, 2015 by fliptopbox

[charmed1]

He rationalized it by saying he wanted her to be as close to her deceased mother as possible when he popped the question. Of course, one could interpret that to mean, jumping out of a plane would bring her closer to death. But in this case, I believe he meant heaven.