Season 4 Talk

[biakbiak]

Why is this never brought up when that screaming fishwife brings up the subject?

It's been brought up at least two or three times and Bobby also always points out that they weren't together but her being in Europe with someone else has definitely been mentioned on the show.

The new part of the aftershow is he didn't know they were friends.

[Oosala]

Reza is so gross. He's always sweaty and oily and stuffed into too-small, horribly mis-matched clothing. And his vocal intonation is irritating as well. He sounds really whiny and he speaks in a sing-song manner. Hard to describe it and even harder to hear it. Persian vocal fry? Annoying, whatever it is.

[JoJo NY]

The MJ fakery irritated the hell out of me. I did 3 IVF's from 2000-2003. Even way back then, before I was even allowed to go through with the invasive procedures -- all the reproductive endocrinologist had to do was a simple little blood test to measure my FSH (follicle stimulating hormone). It basically tells you how "young" your eggs are and whether you're a good candidate for attempted pregnancy.

Guess a blood draw and a phone call for the results is too boring for reality t.v.

Also, MJ needed to terrify the viewers with her f-me pump shoes in the air during the vaginal u/s. Shudder ...

[ZaldamoWilder]

On the Aftershow last week Bobby clarified the whole sleeping with Asifa's friend situation. He and Asifa were broken up at the time. She was in Europe with another guy. He had never met this friend before and had never seen Asifa with her. The only reason he knew the girl had a connection to Asifa was because the friend asked if he was Asifa's ex when they met but she mispronounced Asifa's name so he didn't think they were close. Honestly, I don't think he did anything that bad. He didn't cheat on her and he didn't know the girl was a friend. I don't even know if this girl was a friend or just an acquaintance since Asifa said they had only had dinner three times and the girl didn't even get her name right.

 

Thanks for this.  The details clarify things a little for me.  I realize that this is going to vary greatly woman to woman - but (for me) there'd be no distinction between sleeping with a woman you know is my friend and sleeping with a woman you know knows me.   Good friend, casual acquaintance, whatever, the girl knows me.  There are like 1 billion other qualified people in the world he could've been with.  Really the only part of this that's better is neither of them were cheating.   I was about to ask what her response has been to "you were in Europe with some dude" but I guess it hardly matters if they'd broken up.   She should ask him how he'd feel if the guy she went to Europe with was Mike.  So yeah, she doesn't have any business acting the victim but I still want him to be a little more contrite about it. 

[CrinkleCutCat]

Just aired in Australia, I Pinky Swear, so my 'likes' of your posts are current for me/old for you.... Sorry!

While I do not like the setting (a large party) and the motivation (I'm pissed at your Instagram pic tweaking) of GG's attack at Mike.... I believe her.

GG doesn't have the maturity to talk to Mike one on one...she needed to be pissed off enough to blurt it out. Plus she needed to blurt it out when she had others around her for support, especially others that she had already informed.

I don't condone... That's just my perspective.

[autumnh]

I think Reza is butt hurt since he did not get offered a wedding spinoff ...ugh. I cannot take the fakery of the Shahs anymore

[OnceSane]

Thanks for this. The details clarify things a little for me. I realize that this is going to vary greatly woman to woman - but (for me) there'd be no distinction between sleeping with a woman you know is my friend and sleeping with a woman you know knows me. Good friend, casual acquaintance, whatever, the girl knows me. There are like 1 billion other qualified people in the world he could've been with. Really the only part of this that's better is neither of them were cheating. I was about to ask what her response has been to "you were in Europe with some dude" but I guess it hardly matters if they'd broken up. She should ask him how he'd feel if the guy she went to Europe with was Mike. So yeah, she doesn't have any business acting the victim but I still want him to be a little more contrite about it.

IDK, I know a lot of people with whom I am not close at all; if my whatever-the-fuck-they-were/are fucked one of them after we broke up, I wouldn't give a shit. If that person was a friend, I'd be pissed at both of them IF they both knew their connections to me. Since Bobby didn't know, I'd give him a pass. But yeah, he could be a bit more sorry about it.

IA with whoever said Reza's butt hurt about not getting a wedding spin-off (though few Bravolebrities have). But that's typical for special snowflake Reza.

Edited May 22, 2015 by OnceSane

[biakbiak]

I don't think Bobby has anything to be sorry for they weren't together, she was with someone else, who knows if he thought they were going to get back together. Not to mention this is not new information so who knows how he apologized when she found out.

[OnceSane]

The group travels to Reza's destination wedding in Thailand, where love and drama are in the air. Also: The trip becomes a therapy session for Asifa and Bobby; and Mike addresses swirling rumors with GG.

[sandwoman]

MJ should be getting tested regularly for sexually transmitted diseases. The way she reacted to her test results was like she'd never had a blood test prior to this. It also seems like she's never had a Pap smear. She was behaving as though she'd never had her feet in stirrups.

 

 

Yeah, that was really weird! She was acting had had an ob gyn exam before? At 43? Ummm ... That's weird. Also I think it's super weird how she's like "oh I'm totally fertile, no worries" now. I'm 11 years younger than her and I worry about my ability to have children when I'm ready. I have to assume that she has zero intention of having a baby and it was all an act. I'm not sure for who's benefit though ... 

[Petunia13]

I don't want to imagine a spinoff only about Reza's wedding I guess it would include lots of his funny remarks about "hos", generalizations about "white people", quips about fat asses, and the zany differences between him and Adam (a modern day Dharma and Greg ). That Reza's such a card.

[halkatla]

Asa´s mom & her cats are the best things I´ve ever seen on any Bravo show. I find the rest of the cast to be funny-looking, crazy and weird mostly (with a little boring mixed in) and I think the show has gone on long enough, I mean I enjoy watching it but I´d love to hear that MJ & GG were really doing some of the things they talk about wanting to do, like having families and stuff. It´s embarrassing to see them drunk and acting like fools all the time. Even though their antics are funny, I would just like to know that they´d finally grown up before they turned into Reza, who is just yuck (I like him in some ways though).

Edited May 23, 2015 by halkatla

[Ubiquitous]

Once again, Assyfur demonstrates what a miserable shrew she is and ruins everyone's vacation in Thailand. Why are they trying to make Bobby and her get back together? It's not going to happen, people!

[cyberfruit]

Bobby and Asifa are the worst kind of people -- they're annoying apart but they're a goddamn wreck together. Please tell me they've stayed broken up since the season wrapped.

 

Mike ruined himself even more tonight with the "so what" repetition. There was a sliver, the barest of slivers, when he apologized by parroting what GG wanted to hear, but ending it with, "So what if I tried to have sex with her"? Really, douche? What would behoove you to say something so flippant after this issue has cost your friendships and has made your fiancee batshit? Can we swap out all of Mike's scenes for Shervin next season?

 

I, like anyone else on this board, don't really know Reza or Adam but they've always seemed really ill-matched on screen, aside from Reza talking to the therapist about Adam's porn searches. They're both freaky, but freakiness can only do so much.

[RedKoolAide]

The editors are dead ass wrong for the back shot of MJ entering the room when she was in her bathing suit. That cover-up didn't quite cover up.

Bobby and Asifa are BOTH terrible. His need to have an audience to argue is annoying and immature, and she's a grudge holding banshee. I agree with Asa that they enjoy the fights. Asifa constantly belittling him about being a man has to be frustrating, but he can leave at any time. There's no need to argue until they're blue in the face. They're like a black cloud on a sunny day.

I think Mike always knew he tried to sleep with GG but wanted to save face with Jessica and the rest of the group by denying it. I never want to hear about this again.

Shervin being fed up with the arguing cracked me up. I can only imagine how annoying it was to listen to Bobby and Asifa argue during a 19 hour plane ride, probably during the layover, during the first night at the dinner table, after the relaxing massages, and then to have to hear about it when Bobby wasn't at the 2nd night's dinner. I'd be fed up, too. They act like teenagers.

I can understand why Adam wouldn't want to go on the trip and face everyone questioning him, but I wouldn't miss Thailand for anything.

Bobby's face looks weird without facial hair.

Edited May 26, 2015 by RedKoolAide

[missy jo]

Mike ruined himself even more tonight with the "so what" repetition. There was a sliver, the barest of slivers, when he apologized by parroting what GG wanted to hear, but ending it with, "So what if I tried to have sex with her"? Really, douche?

 

 

I felt like that TH could have been filmed at anytime during this process and he was rightly frustrated. I agree with him, "So what?"

 

Mike seemed sincerely hurt when he met up with GG and she just sat there smugly with this horrible smirk on her face. I still have no idea what her point was, other than to try to cancel his wedding.

[cyberfruit]

I believe that saying something so flip about an issue that bothers a friend, no matter how much you disagree with it/don't believe it/think it's BS, is rude and dismissive. I wouldn't be surprised if that comment comes back to haunt him during the reunion.

[Rahul]

I think that was as close to an admission as we'll ever get from Mike about hitting on GG. There's evidence on film of her nuzzling her neck and fishing his gross hands into her sheer dress to tug at her thong, for fuck's sake. What does he mean, "So what?" As far as I know he and Jessica don't have an open relationship so fidelity and trustworthiness would very much be an issue to Jessica if she's pledging her life to someone. Sure she's an unbearable wretch but the girl has already learned some Farsi and converted to Judaism. She shouldn't have to put up with such flagrant cheating.

 

As for Reza, he didn't seem broken up about the dissolution of his impending marriage at all. If anything he seemed more relieved and at ease than he had been for weeks. And I don't buy that there ever was a planned wedding, or I think we would have seen some of the prep. No, this was just a luxurious trip comped by Bravo for the end of the season, which was why Reza was required to make that laborious speech about all the amenities afforded by the venue and airline. I see you, Bravo.

 

Bobby and Asifa--are they still together? The most recent round of fighting seemed very staged for the cameras and they appeared to be an item in the pic I saw from Mike's wedding. The OG's seem to be more upset they're pulling precious screen time from the main cast members than anything else.

 

Oh, Reza's body shape is rather odd. I think he's definitely had liposuction of his belly, flanks and lower back more than a few times.

[biakbiak]

I really needed Mike to stand up during his talking head to see if he managed to button anything on his shirt, he was also high as a kite! This show does crack me up about how open they are about there drug use "I don't remember anything, I took a bunch of pills that I didn't know what they were." They should have probably watched Midnight Express before going to Turkey!

[sleekandchic]

The incisive discussion of the gang's nipple colors -- Peach! Pink! Brown! Maroon! -- was so lofty and intellectual, I thought I had made a mistake and accidentally switched to PBS.

Asa's THs with the bejeweled turban and shoulder-dusters to match?! Oy, my eyes.

There's way too much avoirdupois floating around for people who think they're oh so gorgeous.

[lolalempick]

Asifa's weird lasered hair line was so distracting tonight.

[bichonblitz]

I was kind of feeling Bobby until he started in on Asifa again in front of everybody. WTF is his problem bringing that shit front and center with everybody watching? Oh, thats right, Camera time. 

 

MJ is looking rough. Her boyfriend didn't come on the trip because he is fake. Just like Reza's wedding and GG's new love interest. 

 

Thailand... I can't help thinking of the Tsunami and all the people that horrifyingly lost their lives. It looks beautiful again but that is one place I would not ever want to visit. 

[HunterHunted]

I don't even know what to say about this show. Between the fakery of MJ pretending that her boyfriend is real to Bobby and Asifa bickering, I only managed to get through the episode by having a cocktail or two. I'm suddenly more sympathetic to Mike. If I have to be altered to watch an hour of these people, imagine the amount of elephant tranquilizers it takes hang with them in real life. Mike is mostly forgiven in my book. Did he try to put the moves on GG? Almost certainly. Was he so high that he has no recollection of the event? Definitely. Can he be excused because of how altered he needs to be to hang with these people? Absolutely.

Edited May 26, 2015 by HunterHunted

[Ubiquitous]

As for Reza, he didn't seem broken up about the dissolution of his impending marriage at all. If anything he seemed more relieved and at ease than he had been for weeks. And I don't buy that there ever was a planned wedding, or I think we would have seen some of the prep. No, this was just a luxurious trip comped by Bravo for the end of the season, which was why Reza was required to make that laborious speech about all the amenities afforded by the venue and airline. I see you, Bravo.

That's the impression I got as well. Yeah, Reza was sooo upset that he got a nice massage at the spa and partied at their layover in Bangcock.

 

Maybe it's just me, but whenever I think of Thailand, I think "that place perverts go to have sex with young men"..

Edited May 26, 2015 by Ubiquitous

[BucFan]

MJ saying it took 7 hours to fly from Bangkok to Phuket? I've flown between the two and it was only about 1 1/2 hours (maybe a little less).

[Neurochick]

I thought it interesting that Mike began with, "it didn't happen," then it changed to, "I don't remember" and finally graduated to, "so what if I tried to have sex with you?"

 

I don't have to be drunk to watch this show;  I watch this show sober, however the show has put me to sleep in the past.

Edited May 26, 2015 by Neurochick

[Chrissytd]

The layover was in Seoul so I'm guessing they flew from there to Phuket.

Eta: I rewatched the episode and she did say 7-hour plane ride from Bangkok to Phuket. MJ must be on Apollo's sector of the time-scale.

Edited May 27, 2015 by Chrissytd

[Lakewood27]

Bobby and Asifa are BOTH terrible. His need to have an audience to argue is annoying and immature, and she's a grudge holding banshee. I agree with Asa that they enjoy the fights. Asifa constantly belittling him about being a man has to be frustrating, but he can leave at any time. There's no need to argue until they're blue in the face. They're like a black cloud on a sunny day.

 

Hahaha! Grudge-holding banshee about sums it up. My brain starts to leak out of my ears when Asifa gets to screeching. She's the New GG, now with 100% more crazy! I agree that Bobby handles their relationship issues in completely the wrong way, but the bottom line is that these two need to not be together.

 

Mike saying "so what?!" to the Turkey incident was so telling. I always believed something went down between Mike and GG. And I also believe that Mike knew it, too. Jessica's outrage at the house party wasn't just because Golnessa chose to publicly reveal the allegations. It was because Jessica knows deep-down that something did happen. And that in order to become Mrs. Shouhed, she's going to be looking the other way and ignoring Mike's indiscretions for the rest of her miserable life.

[Tallulahbaby]

Asa's body tho.....

Shallow, i know, but damn i love how she loves her body and her food.

Shervin was over it. He was so irritated at dinner.

Assifa's nastiness cancels out any of her beauty. Bobby seems like a decent guy. But just needs to not be with her.

She was very nasty when she yelled out about millions in his bamk account and him not spending it on her.

Hit it Kanye.....

Edited May 26, 2015 by Tallulahbaby

[OnceSane]

I don't find Asifa to be all that attractive, she's all angles and bad attitude. I loved Shervin shutting that shit down at dinner.

[Rahul]

I didn't get the impression that Bobby had millions in the bank. I read that scene as sarcasm on Asifa's part meaning she would need to support herself. Someone mentioned that Bobby had sold his business and was not working at the time of filming.

Edited May 26, 2015 by Rahul

[fliptopbox]

Yet again, an engagement based on a contingency of behavior plan fails miserably. Where else have we seen this? And both guys had basically the same plan. I wonder if Bobby and TRav aren't buddies behind the scenes..

 

For next season I like Bobby more, but Asifa brought the drama. I'm pretty sure we can tell who's going to be asked back.

[bichonblitz]

Mike driving around in that red Bentley. Gimme a break. Dude has no money. 

[Lakewood27]

Asa's body tho..... Shallow, i know, but damn i love how she loves her body and her food.

Asa's body is sick!

[MrsRafaelBarba]

Mike is a creeper and a drug addict.

[fliptopbox]

Mike driving around in that red Bentley. Gimme a break. Dude has no money. 

Was it a Bentley? I guess I wasn't paying enough attention. I thought he drives around in a Mercedes, or some equally typical rich person douchey car.

[MrsRafaelBarba]

Fake car

Fake job

Mike stays taking dem L's, failing at life on Pretend TV.

[Neurochick]

I can't believe I am going to defend Asifa, but I do get her upset.  She is a thirtysomething woman who wants to get married and have children (at least that's what she says) and is stuck in a dysfunctional relationship.  She doesn't want to get out of said relationship because it would mean starting over with a new man and to her she doesn't have time to waste, biological clock ticking and all that.   The problem is, she's still resentful of Bobby because he slept with a friend of hers and she can't get past that and let it go; I think she is the type who would rather be right than happy.

[Petunia13]

She would make a terrible mother though (she is horrible to her dog and very callous of all in her orbit). Everyone in the entire cast would be awful parents except Asa, I could see her being a quirky but supportive mom plus she's unflappable and her parents would be stupendous grandparents. I'd watch a spin off of that especially since her long time love is a Jackson and the Jacksons are extremely interesting.

And to the post up thread about Asa's body being sick. Word. I envy her curves and confidence. She doesn't need to change a damn thing she looks awesome and my heterosexual guy friends agree.

Mike just needs to go away like Sammy or Lily.

Edited May 27, 2015 by Petunia13

[charmed1]

Mike driving around in that red Bentley. Gimme a break. Dude has no money.

Ha! Seriously. Like how many rental cars are you going to floss in on tv, Mike? Every time I've gone to Miami Beach, I've wondered what kind of person would rent those gaudy luxury cars they have lined up on the strip. Now I know.

[selhars]

1) I do think Reza was upset about canceling the wedding. Sure they were trying to have a good time. But that doesn't negate the fact that they were on what was suppose to have been a wedding celebration trip. MY surprise goes back weeks....I was shocked he proposed at all. He and Adam were NEVER in that great a place relationship wise. Soooo I don't now why he proposed in the first place. I never got the vibe that Reza was all that giddy about being engaged. It was all lip service.

 

2) I'm team Bobby  all. the. way. I'm not crazy about either one of them airing their relation ship dysfunction in front of everyone -- all the time. But I'd be sick of Asifa, too. She's suffocating. Guys don't like that. 

 

3) I'm done with G.G. and Mike. And think their conversation -- her entire allegation really -- should have been handled off camera. I do NOT want Mike out of the group.

 

4) Love Asa. and Shervin. Not feeling M.J..

[Tallulahbaby]

I actually like Bobby. I think he's cute and he seems like a nice guy. Asifa seems to bring out the worst in him. That being said, he always needs facial hair.

And for the record, Asifa has a cute body too!

In one shot Mike is shown drivjng a Bentley, bt when he leaves GG, it most definetly was NOT a Bentley. The logo looked like a Toyota or Mazda.

Shervin is great. Make him a permanent member!!

Edited May 28, 2015 by Tallulahbaby

[Giselle]

 

Mike saying "so what?!" to the Turkey incident was so telling. I always believed something went down between Mike and GG. And I also believe that Mike knew it, too. Jessica's outrage at the house party wasn't just because Golnessa chose to publicly reveal the allegations. It was because Jessica knows deep-down that something did happen. And that in order to become Mrs. Shouhed, she's going to be looking the other way and ignoring Mike's indiscretions for the rest of her miserable life.

 

Jessica wanted  to be a wife and have that wedding ring more than have a husband  and I think she would have married almost any viable option. Mike won because he had a TV show and that gave her exposure.  I don't see them lasting. She keeps Mike's balls in her handbag and he will sneak them out again  and again doing something stupid until the one time when Jessica has had enough or it gives her the excuse she needs to latch on to a better prospect.

[Rahul]

I actually like Bobby. I think he's cute and he seems like a nice guy. Asifa seems to bring out the worst in him. That being said, he always needs facial hair.

 

Really? I think Bobby looks better without the goatee.

 

Bobby and Asifa make such a toxic pairing. From what I can see, this is namely for two reasons. Firstly, they both have a strange need for drama in their lives (no matter how much Bobby decries that all he wants is peace and harmony). Bobby is constantly bringing up his grievances with Asifa in public despite the fact that she wants to keep their squabbles private. Likewise, Asifa has no issue emasculating Bobby in mixed company.

 

Second, both Bobby and Asifa seem to be oblivious to social queues in their environment. The other Shahs could not have been more clear that they did not want to hear round #23 of this couple arguing, yet time and time again they cannot help themselves. Asifa even had the gaul to make the dinner in Phuket all about her and Bobby after practically the entire day had been spent giving those two sage counsel. That bitch was so enveloped in her own self-absorption she could not see just how fed up everyone was with them. I couldn't believe she was all, "So, should I get Bobby?"

Edited May 28, 2015 by Rahul

[selhars]

I don't get what GG (and the others) wants from mike...he DID say IF he did anything inappropriate he's sorry. And she STILL wasn't happy.

 

Look, the man said he doesnt' remember anything...which I believe. GG herself has said they were both super drunk. How much of any apology do you want from someone who says they don't remember what happened....the most you could get ANYone to say would be ....IF anything happened, I'm sorry. Mike did that. I'm with him....enough already.

[Sun-Bun]

I don't get what GG (and the others) wants from mike...he DID say IF he did anything inappropriate he's sorry. And she STILL wasn't happy.

Look, the man said he doesnt' remember anything...which I believe. GG herself has said they were both super drunk. How much of any apology do you want from someone who says they don't remember what happened....the most you could get ANYone to say would be ....IF anything happened, I'm sorry. Mike did that. I'm with him....enough already.

Agreed!!! ENOUGH.

Yes, Mike was a bit douchey with his "so what?!" talking head spiel after they filmed the apology scene, but good Lord, get over yourself already, GG---it was over a year ago, you both were drunk/horny, and look how much damage this stupidity cost the entire season and this group of so-called friends.

But god forbid GG is the bigger person for once and just lets something go already, like a rational human being...no, she has to sit there and nitpick and claim Mike's apology is "not good enough" and that he wasn't groveling at her feet and begging for forgiveness enough to her liking. He didn't "act sorry" enough for her or say the exact things she wanted to hear!?

Gimme a break---if every family member or friend I ever fought with had to say *exactly* what I wanted to hear when they were attempting an apology with me before I'd hang with them again, then I wouldn't have anyone left to hang with!

Make like Elsa and LET IT GO already, GG---he ain't ever going to say or act how you wanted him to during his attempted apology, but take it for what it was worth: at least it was an apology and he was willing to move on, despite your petty need to keep this pointless feud going.

[selhars]

^^ I do NOT want Mike &Jessica to leave the show. I DO think they fill a certain niche on the series. This is an ensemble show. And to be honest I'd rather have Mike and Jessica on the show than GG or MJ. Mike and Jess at least get some reaction from me. GG and MJ....not so much. Without this Mike "storyline" -- what would GG have brought to the show this season? Nothing.  

 

To be honest I'm wondering why the group seemed to take GG's side over Mike, in the first place. Because I'm team Mike on this.

I think IF Mike had not already been spending time with Jessica, and there hadn't been some very slight interference into the group because of Jessica (before this). The group might very well have sided with Mike and not GG. When you think about, it Reza says he and Mike were SUPER tight, like brothers....to my mind that means he and Mike were tighter than him and GG, or MJ and GG....so why'd they take GGs side in this mess?

 

And for MJ and GG....Do I care about MJ and her boyfriend? Uh. Not really. Don't get me wrong. If it's real, I'm happy for her. I just don't care about it that much. DO I care about GG not at all. She's a drunken, spoiled brat who elicits NO concern from me at all.

 

I'd actually like to see Asfia and Bobby BOTH stay on the show, just not as a couple. I'd love to see if they could be mature adults after their break up. (Bobby could likely do that better than Asifa.)

Edited May 28, 2015 by selhars

[Ubiquitous]

The layover was in Seoul so I'm guessing they flew from there to Phuket.Eta: I rewatched the episode and she did say 7-hour plane ride from Bangkok to Phuket. MJ must be on Apollo's sector of the time-scale.

I assumed she was out of her mind drunk or intoxicated, thus had a distorted sense of time.

[racked]

I still like Mike, even though he's getting the scary addict eyes.  He seemed like a decent person in the past, but I have trouble seeing him getting back to that with his new stranglehold marriage.  It would be nice if he'd get his shit together and stop being so intense all the time. 

 

GG is ridiculous, obviously she just wanted to fuck Mike's relationship up. I think she was hurt not that he wanted to sleep with her (her crush in S1 was a storyline all of its own) but that he wanted to sleep with her and still want back to his girlfriend.  But I have to say, she's no more ridiculous than the rest of these people though, they hate each other and forgive each other each season so I'm sure next year will be someone else's turn to be in the hot seat.  

 

Love Shervin!  Miss Lilly, which I didn't think would happen. 

[Giselle]

Really? I think Bobby looks better without the goatee.

 

 

Facial hair or no facial hair I think Bobby looks better without Asifa.