Season 4 Talk

[Ubiquitous]

You do really have to admire that.  I am somewhere between skinny and MJ, and I would never feel confident enough to go out in a jazzercise outfit like that.  You gotta admire that confidence!

There's a difference in confidence and foolishness. MJ is closer to the latter. I think I was more annoyed by she and Assa distracting the people who were there to work out with their ridiculous attire and gabbing instead of working out.

[walnutqueen]

A petting zoo and wine tasting are two of my favorite things, so I'd be happy, happy, happy to be invited to that party.   But those "strippers" would have to stop "dancing" ... and remove their tails.  :-)

[OnceSane]

I'd rather attend MJ's party. But I'd take my son to the petting zoo (minus the mostly naked guys)!

Asifa, when your significant other insists on a "probationary period", it's to give him an easy out so he doesn't have to marry you. He knows you'll fail; in fact, he's counting on it. Famewhores, both of them. So Asifa will continue to die of thirst and Bobby will pretend he wants to marry Asifa again to be on TV.

[coloradoqt]

 

Does MJ boyfriend seem fake to some? Wouldn't she hire or coax a more, how do I put this, more impressive fake bf if she was to do this?

Apparently he is fake. Posters concerning Kenya indicated Charley was "busted" and proven to be fake.. No specifics

[Rahul]

Am I the only one who's wondering if Reza boinked the skanky escort he was making out with? Perhaps he was too drunk to get it up.

 

At the very least Jefferson walked off with one of the boys for hire.

[announcergirl]

^^^^^ This 100% ^^^^^

Without a doubt Bobby wants her to fail.

[Duke2801]

There's a difference in confidence and foolishness. MJ is closer to the latter. I think I was more annoyed by she and Assa distracting the people who were there to work out with their ridiculous attire and gabbing instead of working out.

 

That was MY first thought!  I'd love to take a Pop Physique class.  They are not cheap and I'd have been pissed if those clowns were interrupting my class.  I mean, at least Asa was trying to do the class.  MJ was just being ridiculous.  And loud. 

 

Reza put allllll of MJ's business on Front street. Revealed her real age, accused her of being completely bald, and called her a bank robber, which was a gross exaggeration of the facts. Pill head actually wasn't so bad ;-)

 

 

O reallllly? I certainly remember the age and bank robber stuff, but I do not recall the bald part. Omg!  Was that on the show, or on social media or something? 

[OnceSane]

I think it was during one of the reunions.

[OrientalAmish]

I think it was during one of the reunions.

 

I think it was the 1st season reunion, I think?

[JoJoPowerRanger]

I think it was the 1st season reunion, I think?

Season 2 reunion I believe? The same season Lilly was introduced and most of the cast went to Mexico and Reza dug around in MJ's purse while MJ was out of the room.

 

Reza's quote from reunion: "You’re 40. You robbed a bank. You aren’t selling real estate. You don’t have any hair. Your lips are fake. Your boobs are fake. Everything about you from the head to toe is fake. You can’t go to Canada. You are a convicted felon. You can’t vote."  http://starcasm.net/archives/199974

 

 

Which reminds me, MJ'S BOOBS ARE FAKE?! Why in the world would a woman choose to get size JJJ boobs?!

[OrientalAmish]

Season 2 reunion I believe? The same season Lilly was introduced and most of the cast went to Mexico and Reza dug around in MJ's purse while MJ was out of the room.

 

Reza's quote from reunion: "You’re 40. You robbed a bank. You aren’t selling real estate. You don’t have any hair. Your lips are fake. Your boobs are fake. Everything about you from the head to toe is fake. You can’t go to Canada. You are a convicted felon. You can’t vote."  http://starcasm.net/archives/199974

 

 

Which reminds me, MJ'S BOOBS ARE FAKE?! Why in the world would a woman choose to get size JJJ boobs?!

 

o.O wait, it was season 2! I watch the show on + off + maybe that's why I couldn't remember correctly....;-x

[racked]

Season 2 reunion I believe? The same season Lilly was introduced and most of the cast went to Mexico and Reza dug around in MJ's purse while MJ was out of the room.

 

Reza's quote from reunion: "You’re 40. You robbed a bank. You aren’t selling real estate. You don’t have any hair. Your lips are fake. Your boobs are fake. Everything about you from the head to toe is fake. You can’t go to Canada. You are a convicted felon. You can’t vote."  http://starcasm.net/archives/199974

 

 

Which reminds me, MJ'S BOOBS ARE FAKE?! Why in the world would a woman choose to get size JJJ boobs?!

This is so much worse than I remembered! In comparison him calling Mike a cheater is nothing!!

[OnceSane]

Issues plague Reza and Adam as their big day approaches. They both.attend a therapy session, and Reza is forced to make a crucial decision about their future. Also: MJ reaches out to a doctor to test her fertility.

[Ubiquitous]

Season 2 reunion I believe? The same season Lilly was introduced and most of the cast went to Mexico and Reza dug around in MJ's purse while MJ was out of the room.

 

Reza's quote from reunion: "You’re 40. You robbed a bank. You aren’t selling real estate. You don’t have any hair. Your lips are fake. Your boobs are fake. Everything about you from the head to toe is fake. You can’t go to Canada. You are a convicted felon. You can’t vote."  http://starcasm.net/archives/199974

 

 

Which reminds me, MJ'S BOOBS ARE FAKE?! Why in the world would a woman choose to get size JJJ boobs?!

Oh yeah, this was the season everyone dog-piled on MJ.

[chenoa333]

Not sure if this is the right forum to post a comment about Jessica. Anyhow, I might be the only person that has this opinion, but if I was one of the so called "good friends" of Mike (Asa,Reza, MJ etcc)  being that good friend I would (especially being a woman) go to Jessica and say something along the lines of "sorry about all of this. I don't know if it's true or not but nevertheless, it's got to be hurtful to you and I can empathize with that". 

I think that is all Jessica wanted from those people who claim to be Mike's friend. If they accept Miike as a lifelong friend then they have to accept Jessica as a friend also and not just consider her to be "Mike's wife that we don't like".

I am no expert on polygraph tests but from what I do recall from watching many legitimate TV shows (48 hours, disappeared, investigation discovery etc) anyone who truly believes in their own mind that what they are saying is true, will show up as not deceitful on the polygraph. If I am wrong please correct me. I see Gigi as someone who believes that whatever Mike's advances towards her that night were in her mind, attempted rape.

How much of this show is scripted, I don't know but if this part of the story line was scripted by Bravo...shame on them. I do recall that in the first or maybe second season of this show, it was made very clear that Mike and Gigi had a thing for each other, were attracted to each other or whatever the correct wording might be.

Jessica is definitely being a bitchy but nevertheless, if Mike really did try to have sex with Gigi, then one of those loser friends of Mike's needs to have a little bit more consideration and understanding for Jessica.

And I'm going to add this here even though it's about MJ....jesus f'n christ...those tits are gross.

 

 

[Lakewood27]

I love MJ trying to insist she's "almost 40" when she and the fertility doctor were high school classmates. It's obvious MJ adheres to the George Costanza rule; it's not a lie, if you believe it.

[announcergirl]

I am still watching but I could not wait to post about the train wreck that is Asifa and Bobby. She is horrible!

[JoJoPowerRanger]

I am still watching but I could not wait to post about the train wreck that is Asifa and Bobby. She is horrible!

I was coming to say that I pity Bobby.  If an ex long-term boyfriend or husband slept with my friend, yes I would absolutely be pissed! I would probably be thinking that he had been checking her out the whole time I dated him.  HOWEVER, I wouldn't get back with him after the fact and then nag him to no end.  Asifa, if it makes you unhappy and you can't get over it, have some more self worth and move on with your life.  And stop being a fucking nagging shrew, it chafes my ears.

 

When Bobby told Asa he wanted the same love that Reza and Adam have, I chuckled.

[Petunia13]

^^Thank you! She made her choice. It is ok to wanna work things out but they aren't. At all. And staging stunt corny photoshoots and giving lavish gifts aren't going to address the serious problems they have. I can't get over how dismissive and rude she is to him and it appalls me how she refuses to touch or care for that poor pet dog. Whattttta shreeeeew.

I half wonder if while she was in Europe with that guy he saw his out and slept with her best pal because that's unforgivable and would be a nail in the relationship coffin. Unfortunately for him escape proved elusive.

Bobby is a little cute btw. He should drop the zero. I don't feel like Reza's aging well he's starting to look like a cartoon character. I don't feel bad for saying that since he's the shallowest mf who ever lived not named Kardassion.

Edited May 19, 2015 by Petunia13

[Rahul]

What a dull episode. Why did Bravo feel the need to supersize it 15 minutes? Surely there were plenty of scenes that could have been excised if not eliminated entirely.

 

I don't think I noticed just how much makeup these women wear until tonight. Its actually quite terrifying now that I'm attuned to it. Asa looked like she had caked on five thick layers of spackle when she showed up in black to the Stanley property at the beginning of the episode. I noticed that every one of the ladies nose was also highly discolored a gross shade of yellowish brown at the final scene dinner from all the contouring they're trying to achieve from the cameras. Hopefully they will see how terrible it translates on screen and stop.

 

I kind of feel bad for Adam, but only a little. If everything inside Reza is screaming that they are not a compatible match, then why is he still in this relationship? I've always maintained it was a charade for the cameras so that he could have a B storyline when needed. He found a pliable doormat in Adam who was willing to be filmed and proposed for the cameras but now the charade is crumbling. Adam should summon the strength to walk away if Reza won't.

[bichonblitz]

So MJ is 43 but has young eggs. OK. I'm not going to be looking for her to be pregnant any time soon. That Dr. should have told her straight up what her chances are of getting pregnant at her age. Fake, fake, fake.

 

My heart kind of broke for Adam a little but I really never thought their relationship was real. I don't picture Reza ever being attracted to someone like Adam to begin with. 

 

I'm trying to understand how GG and MJ are such good friends this season. Didn't they hate each others guts last yr? Wasn't GG pissed that MJ was becoming so friendly with her sister? I just remember MJ being totally vile to her. Now the sister is gone and they are besties...  

 

Asifa is beautiful and Bobby is good looking. Their personalities ruin that, though. 

[HunterHunted]

Everyone can tell that MJ is older than 40 even by the last light of Durin's day.

Reza and Adam are not compatible. Reza is a screaming narcissist with little ability to empathize with others. Adam is a doormat who is willing to sublimate his needs so that he can please people.

Bobby and Asifa remind of this story I saw on the Today Show years ago. It was presented as this couple who divorced because their kids told them they were making everyone around them miserable. The dad clarified with Matt that literally everyone they met told them to get divorced: servers at restaurants, people walking down the street, bank tellers. Bobby and Asifa have no business being together. I wish their friends would stop encouraging this train wreck.

[Ubiquitous]

I am still watching but I could not wait to post about the train wreck that is Asifa and Bobby. She is horrible!

Pardon my French, but she is a miserable screaming harridan! Why the hell is Bobby keeping that shrill fishwife around?

I wanted to smack MJ during her visit to the fertility clinic for blatantly lieing about her age and acting hysterical during the ultrasound session. Give it a rest, bitch.

Reza and Adam are not compatible. Reza is a screaming narcissist with little ability to empathize with others. Adam is a doormat who is willing to sublimate his needs so that he can please people.

Wow, Reza was soooo upset about him and Adam breaking off the wedding that he decided to take the trip to Thailand anyway. I wonder how many times that jerk practiced his dinner speech in front of a mirror?

Edited May 20, 2015 by Ubiquitous

[Locutus]

Reza is UGLY! Inside and out. That slicked back hair and Groucho Marx mustache is hideous. They probably had to pay the stripper from the last episode triple to make out with him.

[Lakewood27]

Bobby and Asifa remind of this story I saw on the Today Show years ago. It was presented as this couple who divorced because their kids told them they were making everyone around them miserable. The dad clarified with Matt that literally everyone they met told them to get divorced: servers at restaurants, people walking down the street, bank tellers. Bobby and Asifa have no business being together. I wish their friends would stop encouraging this train wreck.

Yes, Asifa and Bobby are the real-life version of the SNL sketch, The Needlers: The Couple That Should Be Divorced. They make me extremely uncomfortable. And they bring out the worst in each other. How can Asifa not take it down a notch in front of her MiL? So disrespectful.

MJ should be getting tested regularly for sexually transmitted diseases. The way she reacted to her test results was like she'd never had a blood test prior to this. It also seems like she's never had a Pap smear. She was behaving as though she'd never had her feet in stirrups.

[Petunia13]

I saw how MJ took care of her dogs and I'm not sure she's be a responsible mother.

I see how malicious, cold, and stupid Asifa is with her dog plus how materialistic and needy she is to Bobby--and thank God this beeyotch hasn't bred. Asifa would be like Mama Joyce from RH of Atl.

[Ubiquitous]

You are right about polygraph tests. They basically measure the stress of the person being tested.

[Ubiquitous]

Reza is UGLY! Inside and out. That slicked back hair and Groucho Marx mustache is hideous. They probably had to pay the stripper from the last episode triple to make out with him.

I thought they got the stripper too drunk to care..

[mytmo]

Where to begin?  MJ the definition of delusional.  You are way to immature to raise any human being. 

Reza with your pornstache you are just a self indulgent self involved individual that should stay single.

GG you are a drunken misguided ho that needs to get a job.  BTW don't let guys play with your underwear if you don't want them to make a pass at you later.

Asa with your whole high priestess schtick.  You are not wise.  Get off your self made mountain.

Bobby and Asifa you are not the Bickersons - just a loud, shrill obnoxious couple that should stay away from public gatherings.

[RedKoolAide]

I LOVE Magnolia Bakery. I don't normally like banana pudding, but their's is delicious.

Asa's mom is my favorite part of the show. She's so bubbly and happy. She seems sweet and it cracks me up when she shuts Asa up when she's rambling on about her Persian Pop Priestess bullshit.

Asifa and Bobby should have never gotten back together after he slept with her friend. He was wrong and she can't let it go. They argued the entire time during dinner with his mom. It was so rude. They're both immature. While Asifa gets on my nerves, Bobby should stop talking about their relationship to everyone who will listen. They need therapy.

I don't know what to say about Reza and Adam. I appreciate them not rushing into a marriage, but how were their issues not discussed long before the wedding preparations? Finances, sex, and lack of communication will always doom a relationship if they aren't discussed. I don't see the chemistry between them at all.

[racked]

Everyone can tell that MJ is older than 40 even by the last light of Durin's day.

Reza and Adam are not compatible. Reza is a screaming narcissist with little ability to empathize with others. Adam is a doormat who is willing to sublimate his needs so that he can please people.

 

Adam is a doormat, and part of me wants to yell at him to run away from Reza, but I felt so bad for him during that therapy session. Reza is so uninterested in being with him and makes no attempt to even pretend otherwise.  I can't believe these two actually got married. 

 

GG's boyfriend is cute and seems sweet. 

[Rottiemommie]

Asa's mom.....omg I'm dying. Dancing around the house in her bikini swimsuit coverup tee shirt talking to Barfi the cat will never not be funny.

 

That's pretty much all I've got this week.

[bichonblitz]

Adam is a doormat, and part of me wants to yell at him to run away from Reza, but I felt so bad for him during that therapy session. Reza is so uninterested in being with him and makes no attempt to even pretend otherwise.  I can't believe these two actually got married. 

 

. 

They did?

[Giselle]

Adam is a doormat, and part of me wants to yell at him to run away from Reza, but I felt so bad for him during that therapy session. Reza is so uninterested in being with him and makes no attempt to even pretend otherwise.  I can't believe these two actually got married. 

 

GG's boyfriend is cute and seems sweet. 

 

Adam chooses to be Reza's doormat. Other than being on a TV show and having a well off partner what is the payoff for Adam?

 

Gigi's boyfriend.... RUN! SHE'S CRAZY AND  WILL EAT YOU ALIVE!

 

I'm so over the Madam Clio shtick of Asa. Her spirituality is like a Chinese menu, one from column A, one from column B. She isn't going on and on about her diamond water anymore. I wonder if it's like the Gudice's Fabelinni in New Jersey and she's sitting on a lot of unsold inventory. I guess that's what everybody's gets as a present from her.

I bet she has that cosmic diamond, paid for with investor's money, sitting on her finger when it's not energizing water.

Edited May 19, 2015 by Giselle

[racked]

They did?

 

I thought Reza told Andy on WWHL that the wedding happened? I hope I'm wrong because those two should not be married. 

Adam chooses to be Reza's doormat. Other than being on a TV show and having a well off partner what is the payoff for Adam?

 

Gigi's boyfriend.... RUN! SHE'S CRAZY AND  WILL EAT YOU ALIVE!

 

I know, Adam chooses to be a doormat. I can't help but feel bad for him when he's crying in the therapist office, but if he chooses to stay with Reza after seeing this whole season he kind of deserves what he gets. 

 

I'm waiting for Gigi to unload her crazy on the new boyfriend. 

[Ubiquitous]

I'm so over the Madam Clio shtick of Asa. Her spirituality is like a Chinese menu, one from column A, one from column B. She isn't going on and on about her diamond water anymore. I wonder if it's like the Gudice's Fabelinni in New Jersey and she's sitting on a lot of unsold inventory. I guess that's what everybody's gets as a present from her.

I am pretty sure that's what Reza was sprinkling around his office in the previous ep when she "blessed" the building.

[Petunia13]

Well even if its diamond water it's still WATER and CA is in a ridic drought so maybe she is selling it.

I would buy it if it was the same price as Aquafina or Fiji.

As much as I knock Asifa, Bobby is an asshole for dragging everyone into their relationship drama. Fuck. Handle your shit.

[Rahul]

Reza and Adam have not yet tied the knot.

 

http://www.eonline.com/news/657993/shahs-of-sunset-s-reza-farahan-my-wedding-is-back-on

 

Surely this fool knows better than to go through with it?

[trimthatfat]

Adam needs to run and run fast. I hope at this point that he realizes that Reza doesn't respect him now and won't respect him in the future.

[MichelEliz]

Asifa? Extremely insecure, perpetually unhappy....and super difficult to watch.

Bobby? A douche on a power trip, making Asifa jump through hoops for the relationship. Whiny as hell...and still doesn't "get" that Asifa doesn't want him confiding their relationship business with outsiders. I appreciate Asa calling him on the carpet at dessert about not being a martyr....because Asifa didn't grow to be insecure on her own. He had a hand in it.

 

I FLOVE Asa's Mommy!!! Only a Mom can get away with the level of shade her Mom throws at her: " Ok, get down. You talk too much". LMAOOOO!

[ZaldamoWilder]

As much as I knock Asifa, Bobby is an asshole for dragging everyone into their relationship drama. Fuck. Handle your shit.

 

Girl.   Bringing up the argument for the audience's viewing pleasure?  Pure certified angus beef bitchassery.  I'm not sure the depth and specifics of Asifa's problems, but that right there would be enough to talk me out of ever finding a muffucah sexy again.  Ever.

 

andplusalso, every word of:

 

Asifa? Extremely insecure, perpetually unhappy....and super difficult to watch.

Bobby? A douche on a power trip, making Asifa jump through hoops for the relationship. Whiny as hell...and still doesn't "get" that Asifa doesn't want him confiding their relationship business with outsiders. I appreciate Asa calling him on the carpet at dessert about not being a martyr....because Asifa didn't grow to be insecure on her own. He had a hand in it.

 

She's an annoying, flip at the mouth pain in the ass.  End of sentence.  But here's the thing, she requires accountability. All of her behind the scenes needling and picking bullshit?  He could stop that with one sincere admission:  I know I hurt you.  I betrayed you by sharing the intimacy we had with someone you knew and trusted and I'm sorry.    His let me just keep being a dick and while I'm at it belittling your decision to give me another chance method is not hot for anybody.  Ain't never met the bitch that works on.  She's not upset about the affair, they got back together.  She's upset that he keeps dismissing her feelings about it.  I don't know what his damage is, the guy clearly gets a kick out of driving her insane with his unwillingness to say what she needs to hear to bury it.  I need them to either break up or agree not to leave the house anymore, because this not one kind word shit is affecting my ability to properly enjoy my last evening snack. 

 

I FLOVE Asa's Mommy!!! Only a Mom can get away with the level of shade her Mom throws at her: " Ok, get down. You talk too much". LMAOOOO!

 

Get her momma.   Her verbal ass.

 

doc:  women between the ages 40 and 44....

LOL!!  MJ the first rule of secrets is take the caller off speakerphone.

 

I loved how she lightweight tried to shade her mother with if my father was your best friend we'd still be together.   I swear I was waiting for mama to bust out with: what part of I didn't want that fool no more don't you get?

 

Thai-land! Thai-land! Thai-land!  ::whines:: I wanna go.

[walnutqueen]

Thai-land! Thai-land! Thai-land!  ::whines:: I wanna go.

 

 

Not with that bunch o' rabid bi'ches.  No way!

 

I am so fucking tired of MJ's little girl voice and infantilism.  I'm sick and tired of the rest of them, too (except for Asa's Mom & her cats), but MJ just stepped on my last nerve with her baby talk fertility bubbles shite.

[Rahul]

I wanted to smack MJ during her visit to the fertility clinic for blatantly lieing about her age and acting hysterical during the ultrasound session. Give it a rest, bitch.

Ostenstibly MJ is incapable of feeling embarrassed. At least that's the conclusion I've come to after watching that scene, combined with the outrageous way she dresses for her body type.

Also, I didn't buy any of her blubbering at the Drs office. Notice how she hid her face the entire time while allegedly in tears? If that bitch really wanted children she would've had them by now. I don't think we'll be seeing her with baby in tow next season. Both MJ and her bestie Reza (regarding his love for Adam) need to drop the act. I'm only giving Asa a pass on her Persian Pop Priestess bullshit because it makes me laugh.

Edited May 19, 2015 by Rahul

[Lakewood27]

Girl.   Bringing up the argument for the audience's viewing pleasure?  Pure certified angus beef bitchassery.  I'm not sure the depth and specifics of Asifa's problems, but that right there would be enough to talk me out of ever finding a muffucah sexy again.  Ever.

 

andplusalso, every word of:

 

 

She's an annoying, flip at the mouth pain in the ass.  End of sentence.  But here's the thing, she requires accountability. All of her behind the scenes needling and picking bullshit?  He could stop that with one sincere admission:  I know I hurt you.  I betrayed you by sharing the intimacy we had with someone you knew and trusted and I'm sorry.    His let me just keep being a dick and while I'm at it belittling your decision to give me another chance method is not hot for anybody.  Ain't never met the bitch that works on.  She's not upset about the affair, they got back together.  She's upset that he keeps dismissing her feelings about it.  I don't know what his damage is, the guy clearly gets a kick out of driving her insane with his unwillingness to say what she needs to hear to bury it.  I need them to either break up or agree not to leave the house anymore, because this not one kind word shit is affecting my ability to properly enjoy my last evening snack.

 

Totally agree that Bobby exacerbates Asifa's crazy, jealous behavior. Pulling Asa aside at Asifa's birthday party to discuss what he hates about Asifa, then meeting Asa to discuss it some more? And texting GG, who knows absolutely zero about healthy relationships? And then he wonders why Asifa turns into the incredibly shrill Hulk?

 

I feel sorry for every passenger and crew member on that flight to Thailand.

[Maximona]

Asa's Persian Pop Princess schtick is incredibly annoying, but I do give her Enormous Props for spending her own money -- or even someone else's money -- redecorating her parents' house.  That was a generous thing to do.

 

Run, Adam, run!  Move in with whatsisname from Looking -- I think he needs a roommate.  

[glowbug]

On the Aftershow last week Bobby clarified the whole sleeping with Asifa's friend situation. He and Asifa were broken up at the time. She was in Europe with another guy. He had never met this friend before and had never seen Asifa with her. The only reason he knew the girl had a connection to Asifa was because the friend asked if he was Asifa's ex when they met but she mispronounced Asifa's name so he didn't think they were close. Honestly, I don't think he did anything that bad. He didn't cheat on her and he didn't know the girl was a friend. I don't even know if this girl was a friend or just an acquaintance since Asifa said they had only had dinner three times and the girl didn't even get her name right.

[Ubiquitous]

On the Aftershow last week Bobby clarified the whole sleeping with Asifa's friend situation. He and Asifa were broken up at the time. She was in Europe with another guy.

Why is this never brought up when that screaming fishwife brings up the subject?

[charmed1]

I fell asleep while watching this episode. Was GG even on? Other than Asa's mom's beach cover up, I don't remember anything.

[Ubiquitous]

GG and her new boyfriend joined MJ and her fake boyfriend for a picnic. Apparently the man she met last week wasn't scared off by her drunken behavior.

[HunterHunted]

Not sure if this is the right forum to post a comment about Jessica. Anyhow, I might be the only person that has this opinion, but if I was one of the so called "good friends" of Mike (Asa,Reza, MJ etcc) being that good friend I would (especially being a woman) go to Jessica and say something along the lines of "sorry about all of this. I don't know if it's true or not but nevertheless, it's got to be hurtful to you and I can empathize with that".

I think that is all Jessica wanted from those people who claim to be Mike's friend. If they accept Miike as a lifelong friend then they have to accept Jessica as a friend also and not just consider her to be "Mike's wife that we don't like".

I am no expert on polygraph tests but from what I do recall from watching many legitimate TV shows (48 hours, disappeared, investigation discovery etc) anyone who truly believes in their own mind that what they are saying is true, will show up as not deceitful on the polygraph. If I am wrong please correct me. I see Gigi as someone who believes that whatever Mike's advances towards her that night were in her mind, attempted rape.

How much of this show is scripted, I don't know but if this part of the story line was scripted by Bravo...shame on them. I do recall that in the first or maybe second season of this show, it was made very clear that Mike and Gigi had a thing for each other, were attracted to each other or whatever the correct wording might be.

Jessica is definitely being a bitchy but nevertheless, if Mike really did try to have sex with Gigi, then one of those loser friends of Mike's needs to have a little bit more consideration and understanding for Jessica.

And I'm going to add this here even though it's about MJ....jesus f'n christ...those tits are gross.

But they aren't friends with Jessica. They don't have any independent relationship with her and owe her nothing. Mike is who they have a relationship with and the person to whom a duty is owed. It's also the reason the Bobby Asifa situation is a mess because some of the group are friends with both halves of the couple. I usually feel like this group is extra messy, but they did almost everything they could in the Mike and GG mess. She made them promise that they wouldn't tell Mike. They encouraged GG to calmly discuss this with Mike in private. The only other thing they could have done is let Mike know that he should reach out to GG because she's upset about the state of their friendship.