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S06.E11: Hail Mary

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Good thing they had a judge will to do "take backsies" on a plea.   Once you plead guilty that is usually it.   You don't get a do over.   

 

And one HUGE question, why all this trouble to bust Cary?   It was clear he was never going to roll on Bishop.   So why waste time prosecuting him.   Lemond didn't care he was going down.   Lemond definitely was not going to walk into the courtroom and Perry Mason it to save Cary.   There has to be better ways to get Bishop than this lame plan.   

 

Also, if Cary plead 2 weeks ago that is 1) the fastest sentencing date ever and 2) nothing like waiting until the day of sentencing to meet with the prison consultant.   Speaking of which, Wendy Feldman missed a huge opportunity here.   

 

Oh and Alisha clearly knew Cary was being sentenced that day, she could have scheduled her debate prep another day.   It was prep not the actual debate.   But then there wouldn't have been all that tension.   And Alisha and Kalinda might have had to have a scene together.

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So Kalinda's departure: jailed for forging evidence or killed by/on the run from Bishop?

All of the above.

The LOL ending made the episode. Without it it would have been too much drama for me.

But has Julianna Margulies every whooped before? Seemed like she needed some practice.

So Matt Czuchry looks like he's joined the starve-myself-to-get-an-Emmy[Oscar] club.

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I gotta say I loved Alicia's kiss at the end..Don't think it was an attraction but a mere relief..plus,, somethingtell me she knew she owned Peter in that "debate"...

Great acting by Cary...Decent episode all over all..

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So Kalinda's departure: jailed for forging evidence or killed by/on the run from Bishop?

 

She looked really guilty when that cop walked out. My money's on confessing and going to jail.

 

 

All of the above.

 

Man, they can't kill everyone that leaves the show. Can they? (They can, I know.)

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I don't know how realistic being able to take back a guilty plea is. I guess before sentencing and everything is signed, etc it's technically still possibly. I'm going to admit. I kind of don't care. They sold me. Or maybe it was just Matt. He has been knocking it out of the park this whole story. I even liked him and Kalinda this episode and I am generally not a fan of them as a pair. And I notice Cary was calling her his girlfriend and I get the feeling Kalinda wasn't bothering to argue, because why bother? He was getting ready to go away for at least 2 years. She cares about him and probably even loves him, even if she isn't really built for a committed relationship like he wants. So she let him have that. But now that all of that is over and Cary basically is getting a new lease on life I'm interested to see how they sort all of that out. 

 

And did I read the scene with the judge right? The guy that was meeting with him about a possible Supreme Court seat was sent by Peter right? So Peter was trying to help Cary in his own way?

 

I'm not sure if I was supposed to, but I thought Alicia and Peter's mock debate was pretty hot. 

They made me really not like Eli this episode. He can only hiss, "Alicia!" so many time before it loses it's punch.

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Had there been any hint of attraction between Alicia and campaign guy prior to that last scene?  If so, it escaped me.  The scene would have made more sense if it had been Finn.

 

I know, when I saw the kiss I almost thought I had missed who was standing there and it was someone else.

 

So, the thing with the other cop and his statement about entrapment.  Would that have been enough to get Cary off without what Kalinda did with the server records? Because Kalinda was acting like that when she ran towards the court room, but the prosecutor seemed to think they could just re-try and still get a conviction.

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...And did I read the scene with the judge right? The guy that was meeting with him about a possible Supreme Court seat was sent by Peter right? So Peter was trying to help Cary in his own way?...

I hope we never know.

I know, when I saw the kiss I almost thought I had missed who was standing there and it was someone else.

I know! Me too.

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I actually felt bad for the guy who got framed for hiding an email. Though he should have read it in the first place, so really it's not an excuse to say he didn't see it. The whole thing was a wrongful prosecution, but Geneva seemed genuinely blind-sided, as though she honestly didn't know, which is strange, since she did seem to know in previous episodes.

 

A little gratuitous snerk on legal use of marijuana thrown into the debate story? Hmmmn....

 

Alicia threw Peter under the bus in that mock debate. I think that was her elation as much as Cary getting freed. I honestly never bought her concern for Cary. She of course didn't want him sent to jail, but she's been pretty indifferent to him outside of that, in general, and I think she's basically always and only looking out for herself.

 

Kalinda gets to be a martyr once again. I wonder what Bishop wants from her. Is he just going to kill her? Is he going to frame her for something? Make her a mule? What?

 

They made me like New Campaign Consultant and dislike Eli. Never saw that coming.

 

I like Finn but I don't like the way they are throwing him into and out of scenes in a way that's meant to hint at the tension between him and Alicia, and which serves also to make Alicia more feisty with Peter.

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So, almost everyone is corrupt or unknowingly presenting corrupt information, but Alicia has an alibi because they took her phone away.  Sigh.  Also, she asked Peter to solve her problem again.  Sigh.  But you go girl!?

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So, almost everyone is corrupt or unknowingly presenting corrupt information, but Alicia has an alibi because they took her phone away.  Sigh.  Also, she asked Peter to solve her problem again.  Sigh.  But you go girl!?

Hey. It's Chicaaago.

...A little gratuitous snerk on legal use of marijuana thrown into the debate story? Hmmmn....

At least it was believably and well done.

Alicia' s grey jacket. I want it.

No, it will look better on me! ;)
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So Kalinda's departure: jailed for forging evidence or killed by/on the run from Bishop?

 

I agree that this episode is clearly setting up Kalinda's departure, but my guess is that it plays out with Kalinda ending up having to testify against Bishop and putting him away, forcing her to enter witness protection.  The email thing from tonight will be used as leverage.  I just don't see the show either A) jailing Kalinda indefinitely or B) killing her off as her character's exit, since "A" would be really cruel and "B" is too close to killing off Will.  Plus, if her show bombs, there's always room to find a way to bring her back (maybe Bishop gets shivved).

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I agree that this episode is clearly setting up Kalinda's departure, but my guess is that it plays out with Kalinda ending up having to testify against Bishop and putting him away, forcing her to enter witness protection.  The email thing from tonight will be used as leverage.  I just don't see the show either A) jailing Kalinda indefinitely or B) killing her off as her character's exit, since "A" would be really cruel and "B" is too close to killing off Will.  Plus, if her show bombs, there's always room to find a way to bring her back (maybe Bishop gets shivved).

I think this sounds about right. I just don't see them killing another major character off. Kalinda is a wanderer by nature anyway, so having to up and go into Witness Protection isn't too different to the way she has lived her life before. She strikes me as one who isn't big on a lot of attachments. Which is why the Cary thing is so hard for her. She really cares for him. I believe that. She just isn't able to give him the type of relationship he wants and needs. 

 

I'm interested what the fall out from this case will be for Geneva? 

 

 

Also, she asked Peter to solve her problem again.  Sigh.  But you go girl!?

I know! And then she tore into him for being unethical. So, being shady/calling in favors are bad in Alicia's eyes unless they are favors for her? Did I get that right? 

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then she tore into him for being unethical. So, being shady/calling in favors are bad in Alicia's eyes unless they are favors for her? Did I get that right?

That has always been her position. I remember in early season 1 she told Peter to get rid of a blonde woman who was selling a story about his infidelities. It seemed clear to me that a contact murder would have been OK with her. And she has operated on favors from Will, as well-- her entire career is due to him taking her on at LG when she had no resume. She also originally beat Cary for the permanent position at Lockhart-Gardner by calling on Eli for a favor. This is how the world works, so I'm not singling her out necessarily. I think everyone uses connections if they have them. But Alicia is particularly good at acting like she isn't riding coattails and shredding them behind her as she goes.

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Kalinda messing with the server records notwithstanding, that cop should be reprimanded for having emails from other law enforcement agencies sent to his spam folder. And it seemed like his former partner knew what was going on with the shipment anyway - maybe he got the same email and actually read it. Cary may have entered a guilty plea but he hadn't allocuted yet, and since there was blatant coercion and misconduct going on with the police and the State's Attorney I don't see why there would be a problem with the judge dismissing.

 

I really liked the whole bit with the "incarceration specialist", although at first I thought Cary was going to have the guy beat him up so he wouldn't be so appealing, like in the movie "25th Hour".

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I'm watching an earlier episode where Cary and Geneva work together at the State's Attorney office. Why would she be so gung-ho now to mess him up?

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I'm not sure if I was supposed to, but I thought Alicia and Peter's mock debate was pretty hot.

I think Peter's always been turned on by "powerful Alicia." And Eli didn't have to interrupt them when they were about to hate-f*ck, so to speak. Anyway, Peter's been in a lot of debates, and especially as a politician, doesn't seem to take them personally.

 

Also, am I wrong, or was Alicia not in any scenes with ANYONE from Florrick/Agos/Lockhart? It's like she had her own campaign cast, and the rest of the regular cast had basically a case-of-the-week episode without Alicia. 

 

And how tough & controlled is Diane Lockhart? Baranski just brings it. We watched this live & recorded Downton Abbey.

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Had there been any hint of attraction between Alicia and campaign guy prior to that last scene? If so, it escaped me.  The scene would have made more sense if it had been Finn.

 

I might be alone here, but I loved that scene and the way it came almost completely out of left field, and I love that it wasn't Finn -- nothing against MG or the character, but I'd rather watch Alicia enjoy a series of random sparky mini-encounters with more than one guy now than start a clearly choreographed march toward Replacement Will or take a vow of total chastity or, worst of all, go back to Peter for real. It would've made more sense if she could've overheard the great scene between Eli and campaign guy (Johnny? Is that his name? COULD she hear it from the other room?), which I found worth rewatching just for the background pacing and facial expressions of Sarah Steele ("I'm her body woman, not her fluffer!") But his right-in-her-face compliment, which made me stop and go "hmm" for a moment, was lead-in enough for me, given that the kiss never would've happened without her exultation over the news about Cary anyway -- just as her moment with Finn a few episodes ago wouldn't have happened if she hadn't been pissed about Peter and Connie Nielsen's character, whose name I can't remember either.

 

I just like it when background people suddenly emerge into the foreground as romantic prospects and you look at them an entirely different way, whether it's real life or drama. I'm glad the writers are willing to muddy Alicia's romantic waters a little, and I hope she winds up not coupled at season's or series' end, but not asexual either.

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Had there been any hint of attraction between Alicia and campaign guy prior to that last scene? If so, it escaped me.  The scene would have made more sense if it had been Finn.

I'm not sure the kiss was about campaign guy, She was in a good mood and would've kissed the first male she saw IMO.

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Alicia' s grey jacket. I want it.

Good episode though.

I also want the red coat she was wearing in the parking garage when she kissed the campaign guy.

I didn't listen closely enough but the conversation the cop had with the Canadian officer did he say the officer never listened to him or just told him to send an email? That itself seems like he was trying to ignore what could have been evidence that would have helped Cary. But I guess that was the point, kind if like plausible deniability he could just saw he never got the email or talked to the Canadian policeman. If so that's a crappy move.

Also was the cop they accused of lying about reading the email the one Geneva is having an affair with? I was hoping that would come out.

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Also, am I wrong, or was Alicia not in any scenes with ANYONE from Florrick/Agos/Lockhart? It's like she had her own campaign cast, and the rest of the regular cast had basically a case-of-the-week episode without Alicia.

That is what it looked like to me as well. I'm going to be honest, I kind of got annoyed when they kept cutting back to the debate prep. I guess it was to break up the tension of the rest of story, but I didn't really need it.

 

 

'm watching an earlier episode where Cary and Geneva work together at the State's Attorney office. Why would she be so gung-ho now to mess him up?

Well they do have somewhat of an adversarial history. Cary was promoted by Peter under what some thought were kind of suspicious/flimsy reasons. At one point Peter actually asked Geneva to tell him whether she thought he had a hiring bias (race wise) problem as SA. I thought she gave a very thoughtful answer. It was a really good scene. She didn't accuse Peter of being racist or overtly biased, just that he might need to really look and ask himself how he makes his decisions. She brought up the fact that Cary was promoted over her, Matan (I think was his name) and someone else. That another guy (who was black and gay) was disciplined for fraternization with another staffer, but Cary who had a thing with Dana (remember her?) wasn't. Peter said, "Well, there were reasons". To which Geneva replied, "I'm sure there were. There are always reasons".  (I'm heavily paraphrasing but i think I got the gist of the scene). Anyway, while I don't think Geneva necessarily had anything personal against Cary I do think she saw him as a young, white guy, given breaks and chances that not everyone gets and not always based on merit. So I'm sure when the chance to take him down came her way, it wasn't something she felt that conflicted about. 

 

That being said, I was still upset with her, because while all of her issues with Peter/Cary and the SA's office were valid (at last to me) she let it blind her to the facts in this case. So if she takes a fall from this, I'll b ok with it. 

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The campaign is not interesting to me.  I mostly ff'd through the debate prep except for Peter's part.

 

I'm glad I don't have to watch Cary in jail.  I hope he gets some control of his law firm back.

 

I'm not looking forward to the Kalinda/Bishop cat-and-mouse game.

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I want Kalinda to go in the way we first met her.  Unknown. 

 

We saw Kalinda for a bit and then we don't, the particulars shouldn't matter.  She came to Chicago to disappear, why shouldn't she leave that way?  When she goes, I want her to be in the wind, so to speak.

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Had there been any hint of attraction between Alicia and campaign guy prior to that last scene?  If so, it escaped me.  The scene would have made more sense if it had been Finn.

I think just the casting of Steven Pasquale for the campaign guy laid the groundwork. (Agreed, though, I was surprised).

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The incarceration specialist was awesome. When he yelled he was going to call 5 hookers he knew I was going to spit my water out. Less talking, more sex!!

Thank god the Cary incarceration story is done. It was full of holes anyway, other than allowing Matt to unleash some acting chops. Wrapped up oddly but I'll take it...let's move on.

Every scene with Bishop makes my toes curl with tension. Did anyone else kind of jump when he reappeared in the kitchen?? He kind of did a weird counterclockwise loop. That dude makes my skin crawl.

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... I thought Alicia and Peter's mock debate was pretty hot.

 

It was the Finn and Alicia debate that I found hot. Any scene that they do together these days looks like foreplay to me. Their chemistry is so fantastic that I get all "Will who?". Peter's arrival was a complete downer, and you can see the spark just disappear. 

 

I'm hoping against hope that the kiss in the last scene is simply a manifestation of relief/elation and won't lead to anything much. I agree with others that it seems to have have arrived out of exactly nowhere, and it's not like Alicia's relationship status isn't complicated enough.

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Had there been any hint of attraction between Alicia and campaign guy prior to that last scene? If so, it escaped me.  The scene would have made more sense if it had been Finn.

 

 

This was a very long time ago, but I totally got a flashback to Grace kissing Victor on La Law for the first time.  There was no way to see it coming and was a complete "WTF just happened?" moment.  It also happened in a parking garage.

 

I giggled when Diane said, "I'm not trying to be mean, but stop calling me!" to Alicia.  I just thought it was great.

 

I also laughed when Cary's coach said it wasn't going to be like Oz.   He would indeed know.

 

 

but I'd rather watch Alicia enjoy a series of random sparky mini-encounters with more than one guy now than start a clearly choreographed march toward Replacement Will

I've started calling him The Poor Man's Will.

 

 

Did anyone else kind of jump when he reappeared in the kitchen??

 

I thought he was being as intimidating as possible.   He was also towering over her. 

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Loved seeing Herc from The Wire!

 

Had there been any hint of attraction between Alicia and campaign guy prior to that last scene?  If so, it escaped me.  The scene would have made more sense if it had been Finn.
his right-in-her-face compliment, which made me stop and go "hmm" for a moment, was lead-in enough for me

ITA - when the campaign guy leaned in, he was very close to her and I thought whoa, personal space, buddy! It made a very nice compliment (especially from someone who has been giving her lots of constructive feedback for weeks/months now) seem very personal and intimate, so when she kissed him later it wasn't as out of the blue for me as it would have been without that moment.

 

I'm so glad that Cary's case is finally over, but I also appreciate that Matt Czuchry has been given the opportunity to do more acting wise with this plot than he has in past seasons. I will share in Alicia's awkward whoop of joy that this storyline is done (aside from whatever the fallout will be from Kalinda faking the meta data and ignoring Bishop's call). I am just relieved that we don't have to deal with the particulars of Cary's case anymore.

 

And did I read the scene with the judge right? The guy that was meeting with him about a possible Supreme Court seat was sent by Peter right? So Peter was trying to help Cary in his own way?

Yup, that's exactly what happened.

 

It was the Finn and Alicia debate that I found hot. Any scene that they do together these days looks like foreplay to me. [snip] Peter's arrival was a complete downer, and you can see the spark just disappear.

ITA on both counts. There is such an ease and playfulness between Finn and Alicia. As soon as Peter arrived, the energy just got sucked out of the room. The only spark between Alicia and Peter was her anger after he said he couldn't have Cary put into a minimum security facility.

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Christine Baranski really brought it when she was begging the judge to at least listen to her.   Almost in tears but trying to be professional.   A lesser actress would have gone too far to the teary.    BTW, this is why you don't pull stunts like that.   You have to appear in front of that judge again.   Not only is he pissed about this case -- which hurts your client -- but he is going to remember and be doubtful about what stunt you are pulling next time.

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Kalinda messing with the server records notwithstanding, that cop should be reprimanded for having emails from other law enforcement agencies sent to his spam folder. And it seemed like his former partner knew what was going on with the shipment anyway - maybe he got the same email and actually read it. Cary may have entered a guilty plea but he hadn't allocuted yet, and since there was blatant coercion and misconduct going on with the police and the State's Attorney I don't see why there would be a problem with the judge dismissing.

 

 That's the thing, the cop was shown to do what he can do to get what he wants. He even spelled it out for Cary when he took his watch away, told him he was sick of lawyers thinking they are above everyone. Working with people like Bishop and then coming to him talking about the law. However, considering what he has done, his affair with Geneva. He is not an angel either and sad to say, there have been known arrests and SWAT team mistakes due to emails being put in spam folders or hitting department firewalls since they are outside the department or agency. Where they have simple information such as addresses or in this case "export" instead of "import". 

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I want Kalinda to go in the way we first met her.  Unknown.

We saw Kalinda for a bit and then we don't, the particulars shouldn't matter.  She came to Chicago to disappear, why shouldn't she leave that way?  When she goes, I want her to be in the wind, so to speak.

 

That would be great. The heat is turned way up on the situation with Bishop, and metadata nonsense from tonight, and Kalinda just sort of poofs away, leaving behind some sort of wink-y token that only Cary/Diane/Alicia would understand. 

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That's the thing, the cop was shown to do what he can do to get what he wants. He even spelled it out for Cary when he took his watch away, told him he was sick of lawyers thinking they are above everyone. Working with people like Bishop and then coming to him talking about the law. However, considering what he has done, his affair with Geneva. He is not an angel either and sad to say, there have been known arrests and SWAT team mistakes due to emails being put in spam folders or hitting department firewalls since they are outside the department or agency. Where they have simple information such as addresses or in this case "export" instead of "import".

Thank you both for your posts it helped me decipher the intricacies of what the cop was and was not doing. Also answered my question about him having the affair with Geneva, which I still hope comes out to bite her in the arse!

Glad the storyline about Cary going to jail is over, did not like how he was being railroaded, but Matt acted the hell out of the material he was given.

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On another note, I went to school with Jason Babinsky who played Howell our tech guru in this episode. Good to see him successful.

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Thank you both for your posts it helped me decipher the intricacies of what the cop was and was not doing. Also answered my question about him having the affair with Geneva, which I still hope comes out to bite her in the arse!

Glad the storyline about Cary going to jail is over, did not like how he was being railroaded, but Matt acted the hell out of the material he was given.

 

 I have always loved Matt as an actor and this really gave him some great scenes. However, the judge said it best: "The poor boy has been through enough, let it go." It was like the writers were agreeing, this has gone on way too long and while resolved thanks to both a technicality and Kalinda doing some hacking and also having the other detective verify the email was sent. It was over and yes I do want to see Geneva and the detective get expose because it would not only be the comuppance for them and how they have personally attacked Cary and Alicia but will also expose Castro. That way when he gets out of office, he will go directly to jail for falsifying everything because he was doing the "ends justify the means" bit. I do want to know who the mole is inside the SA office. Its not Castro and this proved its not Geneva. Who does Bishop have on the inside who knows info but not the whole story? It has to be a middle person who gets the facts and information on cases and investigations. But doesn't know who is involved all the way. Like a secretary or assistant.

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So Kalinda's departure: jailed for forging evidence or killed by/on the run from Bishop?

 

She'll know how to just "disappear", ala Walter White in Breaking Bad - or maybe a witness protection thing, but I think she's better off doing it on her own. And she'll be able to do it in better style than WW's living in a rundown shack in NH. She needs to be planning this right now, or some sort of strategy, or she is a sitting duck.

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I cannot believe that Gilbert Bythe was reduced to a FaceTime conversation.  I barely figured out that he was my once and future love.

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You can withdraw your guilty plea if there is impropriety on the part of the prosecution.  In order to accept the plea, the judge has to find that the prosecution would have proven its case at trial beyond a reasonable doubt.  A Brady violation (or any constitutional violation) would have led to a big chunk of the evidence being thrown out, or the case not being able to be prosecuted under the rules.  So the defendant is allowed to withdraw his plea because the prosecution (supposedly) cheated, and the judge can dismiss if he thinks the prosecution can no longer prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt.  The judge was really in a bad mood, since he dismissed with prejudice, which means the state can't ever bring that case against Cary again, even with new or better evidence.   

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You can withdraw your guilty plea if there is impropriety on the part of the prosecution.  In order to accept the plea, the judge has to find that the prosecution would have proven its case at trial beyond a reasonable doubt.  A Brady violation (or any constitutional violation) would have led to a big chunk of the evidence being thrown out, or the case not being able to be prosecuted under the rules.  So the defendant is allowed to withdraw his plea because the prosecution (supposedly) cheated, and the judge can dismiss if he thinks the prosecution can no longer prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. 

 

This is a case where, to use Dickens language: "the law is an ass". As Alicia said, innocent people sometimes plead guilty to avoid harsher sentences they think are otherwise inevitable. If after pleading guilty, evidence is found exculpating the person, but no prosecutorial misconduct, to say:"nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah ... it's the first thing you said that counts and you cannot change your plea!!" ... well, that's just totally idiotic. If new evidence is found totally showing the defendant innocent, he should be able to withdraw the plea whether or not there was prosecutorial misconduct, which is contrary to what was stated on the show as the rule ("only if misconduct is shown!").

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Also was the cop they accused of lying about reading the email the one Geneva is having an affair with? I was hoping that would come out.

There's still time. I think Geneva's affair with him was too random a plot point to have been introduced without having it mean something later.

 

Also, am I wrong, or was Alicia not in any scenes with ANYONE from Florrick/Agos/Lockhart? It's like she had her own campaign cast, and the rest of the regular cast had basically a case-of-the-week episode without Alicia.

Yep, and I would have been okay with it if there'd been no Alicia at all. She's just so meh, the way she kind of floats from one thing to the next. But I guess that wouldn't work since she is in fact The Good Wife.

 

I hope Kalinda's going to kill Bishop, even if that means she'll end up dead herself. Enough with that guy. He's like friggin' Darth Vader.

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I might be alone here, but I loved that scene and the way it came almost completely out of left field, and I love that it wasn't Finn -- nothing against MG or the character, but I'd rather watch Alicia enjoy a series of random sparky mini-encounters with more than one guy now than start a clearly choreographed march toward Replacement Will or take a vow of total chastity or, worst of all, go back to Peter for real. It would've made more sense if she could've overheard the great scene between Eli and campaign guy (Johnny? Is that his name? COULD she hear it from the other room?), which I found worth rewatching just for the background pacing and facial expressions of Sarah Steele ("I'm her body woman, not her fluffer!") But his right-in-her-face compliment, which made me stop and go "hmm" for a moment, was lead-in enough for me, given that the kiss never would've happened without her exultation over the news about Cary anyway -- just as her moment with Finn a few episodes ago wouldn't have happened if she hadn't been pissed about Peter and Connie Nielsen's character, whose name I can't remember either.

 

I just like it when background people suddenly emerge into the foreground as romantic prospects and you look at them an entirely different way, whether it's real life or drama. I'm glad the writers are willing to muddy Alicia's romantic waters a little, and I hope she winds up not coupled at season's or series' end, but not asexual either.

 

 

I'm not sure the kiss was about campaign guy, She was in a good mood and would've kissed the first male she saw IMO.

I agree. I think he just happened to be the first person she saw. (Altho, i don't know that she would have kissed Eli!)

 

I like that Alicia paid for the consultant and Cary mentioned she was his only friend. "Trust the friend, not the girlfriend."

 

Lemond Bishop makes my knees weak. lordy.

 

Detective John Ventimiglia played a dirty cop on Blue Bloods, too, and I keep confusing his characters.

 

Christine Baranski is the SHIT. Where was Clark?? I can't imagine he wouldn't be there all aflutter that his man crush was going to prison.

 

Look at Carey swooping in to save the day. I never liked that kid, but maybe now...

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I missed how we know that Geneva was having an affair with the police officer.  Would someone please enlighten me?

He called her in her office and they had a little phone sex. She talked about how seeing him on the stand would get her all flustered. And something about how she could never leave her husband but she loved being with him, etc etc.

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Alicia's story line is boring. I'd rather have seen all of the stupid debate prep time used watching CarEy do his thing and I don't even like him

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This is a case where, to use Dickens language: "the law is an ass". As Alicia said, innocent people sometimes plead guilty to avoid harsher sentences they think are otherwise inevitable. If after pleading guilty, evidence is found exculpating the person, but no prosecutorial misconduct, to say:"nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah ... it's the first thing you said that counts and you cannot change your plea!!" ... well, that's just totally idiotic. If new evidence is found totally showing the defendant innocent, he should be able to withdraw the plea whether or not there was prosecutorial misconduct, which is contrary to what was stated on the show as the rule ("only if misconduct is shown!").

Except that before pleading guilty, the judge has to inquire about the charge and you have to state, usually under oath, that it happened the way the state says it can prove it happened.  If you plead guilty for your own reasons even though you didn't commit the crime, as people sometimes do, that's ultimately on you.  If new evidence surfaces that shows you're innocent (without misconduct by the state), that's what motions for new trial and habeas are for. 

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So much contrived and stupid crammed into one hour, it beggars description. I hate myself for watching this episode, but if the "Winter Premiere" (God, I hate this trend!) was meant to restore the faith I once had in the Kings, it didn't work. I liked two things about this episode: I liked Czuchry's performance, and I liked Sarah Steele's line reading of "I'm her body woman, not her fluffer." 

 

First of all, why does Chris Elliot continue to get work? Mr. Professor Pothead Derpface was an annoying waste of time. 

 

I was really hoping that something would wipe that supercilious smirk off Geneva Pine's face and bring her sleazy affair with Det. Spamfilter (whose actual name I can't be bothered to look up) to light, but they had to have Kalinda cock it up with her fake metadata ploy. Here's a problem: If anyone in this world is sure to have a password lock on her laptop, it's the Bat-Wielding Bad-Ass Formerly Known as Leela. But, no! Diane just waltzes into the courtroom with it. Everything in this episode depended on contrivance, mischance or bad timing.

 

And once again, Eli acts like a spoiled little ninny. "No, Johnny Come Lately, you're not the boss of me! You can't play with my toys! They're MINE!" But was Alicia's kiss with Johnny Come Lately supposed to make me give a crap about him or any other aspect of the campaign? Because that ain't happening. Too awkward, too weird, too out-of-left-field.

 

And Czuchry's final coutroom scene wasn't "one of Cary's dumbest faces ever," by the way. It was one of the few parts of the episode I bought. Just for the record. Uh, in my opinion, Your Honour. I am also tired of Lemond Bishop's/Darth Vader's eating the show. 

 

In fact, I'm tired of this show.

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