Small Talk: The Regency Bar

[SunnyBeBe]

8 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Me too!  She was a snot then, and a snot now.  When things weren't going well for Jay with the Bears, she came out with the statement "Chicago has never felt like home, we're looking into moving to Nashville" (paraphrasing).  Mind you, this is while he still played for Chicago.  His play had alienated fans, and she comes out with some aggressive nonsense like this.  

I just don't get the attention she receives.  ??

[SuprSuprElevated]

Just now, SunnyBeBe said:

I just don't get the attention she receives.  ??

Agreed.  Attractive women are plentiful.

[ryebread]

1 hour ago, Mindthinkr said:

What? No pool? I’ll have to take a pass (lol).

Me, too.  $8 mill and the front door opens up into the back of a sofa!? Which sits in a living room that's centerpiece is a non-awe inspiring fireplace. For 8 million dollars I want a decent sized foyer. And a pool. And a lawn that doesn't look like it's been chewed by Lisa Vanderpump's ponies.  

[SuprSuprElevated]

1 minute ago, ryebread said:

Me, too.  $8 mill and the front door opens up into the back of a sofa!? Which sits in a living room that's centerpiece is a non-awe inspiring fireplace. For 8 million dollars I want a decent sized foyer. And a pool. And a lawn that doesn't look like it's been chewed by Lisa Vanderpump's ponies.  

There are parts of the home that I enjoyed looking at (primarily the kitchen and the view), but to me, it felt really cold and almost medieval.  I can't imagine a family with three very young children in there.

[SunnyBeBe]

1 hour ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

There are parts of the home that I enjoyed looking at (primarily the kitchen and the view), but to me, it felt really cold and almost medieval.  I can't imagine a family with three very young children in there.

I like the kitchen, bathrooms, white room and couple of the bedrooms, but, not so much the rest of the house.  In my last house, I had a stone fireplace, similar to the one they show and it drove me crazy!  It tended to chip, was not smooth, not easy to clean, etc. Plus, it clashed with most any decor....very limiting.  I can't stand them now.  And, I don't care for those rooms with the windows trimmed in brown wood.  Too much like old school for me.  Big houses are nice, I suppose, but, I don't think I'd be comfortable.  I'd like something more cozy and easier to navigate.  Even with security, I don't think I'd feel comfortable in a place so large. 

Edited August 2, 2018 by SunnyBeBe

[Happy Camper]

17 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

There are parts of the home that I enjoyed looking at (primarily the kitchen and the view), but to me, it felt really cold and almost medieval.  I can't imagine a family with three very young children in there.

Photo #14. A sculpture of Bethenny's tortuous colon sitting in a bowl on the coffee table

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Edited August 3, 2018 by Happy Camper
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[SunnyBeBe]

13 hours ago, Happy Camper said:

Photo #14. A sculpture of Bethenny's tortuous colon sitting in a bowl on the coffee table

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Too funny! WHAT IS in that bowl? Honestly, that mantle, stone fireplace and brown wood window trim....Omg....it triggers me. I loved my old house, but, not those parts. 

Otherkate, I haven't heard from them.  Sorry....maybe, there is some explanation. 

Edited August 3, 2018 by SunnyBeBe

[Lisin]

We don’t discuss other members on the forum so if you all would like to discuss members please take it to PM. 

[Gem 10]

On 7/26/2018 at 7:54 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

If anyone wants to own some of the NY HW's clothing go to Thred Up, Lu, Sonja, Dorinda and Carole have cleaned out their closets.  Carole actually had some nice looking things, no lace jumpsuits!  

The photo of Lu hardly looks like her, I thought it was a Hispanic actress, can't think of her name but she is gorgeous.

Yeah, if anyone is a size 0.  Guess I’m out.  Lol.   Maybe I can buy Carole’s Vampire black lace contraption and wear it as a shawl or scarf or cape.

Edited August 4, 2018 by Gem 10

[KungFuBunny]

There isn't a thread/forum for RHO Miami

Joanna Krupa who was married to Romain Zago divorced him

She just got married today to Douglas Nunes

[SuprSuprElevated]

9 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

There isn't a thread/forum for RHO Miami

Joanna Krupa who was married to Romain Zago divorced him

She just got married today to Douglas Nunes

Holy upgrade Batman!

[SuprSuprElevated]

[SuprSuprElevated]

The 72-hr rule is the time frame with which to consider withholding comment about a given story, until further information/facts come out.  

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My hubs has been prescribed many different opoids/painkillers for two major surgeries he's had in the past 6 years.  He went out of his way not to overuse them, but he did indeed use them.  I'm not sure what alternatives are out there for someone who had a half of a lung removed, a procedure that his cardiothoracic surgeon described as "worse than open heart".  He did not take them unless he was near tears, and in fact didn't take them often enough imo.  There is therapeutic value in not being in pain.  I realize that there are many, many people dying from them, and that is truly tragic, but to deny their availability to folks who are in true need worries me as well.  

I'm all for finding a suitable alternative, but for people like my husband and those with worse pain than he had, ibuprofin isn't the answer.  Next we'll be discussing all the people in liver failure due to the effects of ibuprofin and NSAIDS.

Edited August 10, 2018 by SuprSuprElevated

[QuinnM]

5 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

I'm not sure what alternatives are out there for someone who had a half of a lung removed, a procedure that his cardiothoracic surgeon described as "worse than open heart". 

Open heart does not require any opioid.  They use Tylenol.  They use it because pain killers with opioid depress breathing, heart beat etc.

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

Open heart does not require any opioid.  They use Tylenol.  They use it because pain killers with opioid depress breathing, heart beat etc.

Tylenol isn't effective for everyone.  

I don't plan on arguing with anyone about this, we all feel the way we feel about it.  My husband did not become addicted to them.  It is possible to be a successful opiod user.

Edited August 10, 2018 by SuprSuprElevated

[AnnA]

7 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

Open heart does not require any opioid.  They use Tylenol.  They use it because pain killers with opioid depress breathing, heart beat etc.

I was given Oxy after my open heart surgery (triple bypass) and again after a hip replacement. 

[Otherkate]

There's a difference between doctors responsibly prescribing medications that are necessary for recovery (such as with your husband) and doctors overprescribing those medications to people who do not need them. And there is certainly a difference between the first set of doctors and those who don't just prescribe, but PUSH those meds whenever/wherever they can because they are getting kickbacks via the pharmaceutical industry. Doctors know the difference between a suitable medication and an unnecessary one. And if they don't know, they shouldn't be allowed to practice. 

[QuinnM]

20 minutes ago, AnnA said:

I was given Oxy after my open heart surgery (triple bypass) and again after a hip replacement. 

They cut it open, took out a tumor, sewed it up and I got Tylenol.  And quite frankly I was fine.  The worst of it is being incubated for 24 hours.

[film noire]

12 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

I'm not sure what alternatives are out there for someone who had a half of a lung removed, a procedure that his cardiothoracic surgeon described as "worse than open heart".  He did not take them unless he was near tears, and in fact didn't take them often enough imo. 

 

What a difficult journey for your husband -- hope all is well with him now.

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There is therapeutic value in not being in pain.  I realize that there are many, many people dying from them, and that is truly tragic, but to deny their availability to folks who are in true need worries me as well.  

I agree. It's very hard to heal while in pain;  your body and mind are so lost in the agony, you can barely survive inside your body.

 

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 but to deny their availability to folks who are in true need worries me as well.  

Me, too, Supr -- I get the addiction fears (I come from a family of alcoholics, but --luckily -- I have no issues with drugs or alcohol. Which is why, despite being on opiods for several weeks post abdominal surgery,  I was done with the heavy pain meds once the pain was gone).  So having an eye on the propensity /possiblity of addiction is vital (because my case was lucky, not likely). On the other hand, I remember (back in the early oughties, when the DEA started prosecuting legitimate pain physicians/clinics) people making video documents and then killing themselves,  because they were in such savage (and suddenly unmedicated) pain, they could not survive another day.  And the ugliest twist is that both sides are in pain  - those who have become inadvertently, horribly addicted,  and those who live in screaming chronic agony when their daily meds are removed -- and no easy answers anywhere right now, imo. 

Edited August 11, 2018 by film noire

[SuprSuprElevated]

14 minutes ago, Otherkate said:

There's a difference between doctors responsibly prescribing medications that are necessary for recovery (such as with your husband) and doctors overprescribing those medications to people who do not need them. And there is certainly a difference between the first set of doctors and those who don't just prescribe, but PUSH those meds whenever/wherever they can because they are getting kickbacks via the pharmaceutical industry. Doctors know the difference between a suitable medication and an unnecessary one. And if they don't know, they shouldn't be allowed to practice. 

Total agreement with you.  This line is blurred by all it seems.

Edited August 10, 2018 by SuprSuprElevated

[SuprSuprElevated]

1 hour ago, film noire said:

What a difficult journey for your husband -- hope all is well with him now.

I agree. It's very difficult to heal while in pain;  your body and mind are so lost in the agony, you can barely survive inside your body.

 

Me, too, Supr -- I get the addiction fears (I come from a family of alcoholics, but --luckily -- I have no issues with drugs or alcohol. Which is why, despite being on opiods for several weeks post abdominal surgery,  I was done with the heavy pain meds once the pain was gone).  So having an eye on the propensity /possiblity of addiction is vital (because my case was lucky, not likely). On the other hand, I remember (back in the early oughties, when the DEA started prosecuting legitimate pain physicians/clinics) people making video documents and then killing themselves,  because they were in such savage (and suddenly unmedicated) pain, they could not survive another day.  And the ugliest twist is that both sides are in pain  - those who have become inadvertently, horribly addicted,  and those who live in screaming chronic agony when their daily meds are removed -- and no easy answers anywhere right now, imo. 

Thanks Film.  He's much better, but is in some degree of pain, from minor to severe, every single day.  Cutting through nerves makes them angry, and they don't alway regenerate nicely.  He only very infrequently medicates for it.  He's stubborn and in this case, I guess that's a good thing.  I agree with ^^everything here^^.

[walnutqueen]

I was on increasingly stronger pain meds for about 6 years, and was prescribed far too many of those opioid alternatives, with absolutely no concern for the levels of toxicity my body was being subjected to.  They weren't working for me, so I finally found a pain management specialist (she was also an excellent spinal surgeon) who put me on Vicodin & Oxycontin Oxycodone, which I was on for about 2 years.  I took a LOT, because I needed to be able to work.  The day I took early retirement I quit, cold turkey.  Never had a single withdrawal symptom or any addiction issues, but did suffer a lot of pain for the next few years.  Pain meds do nothing for me but ease the pain, so it is discouraging to see how this epidemic is making it more difficult for legitimate chronic pain sufferers to get relief.

In my opinion, Tylenol is dangerous, just because people think it's so benign and they are not aware of the risks of overuse.

Edited August 11, 2018 by walnutqueen
Oxy, oxy often free (if it's from Workers Comp)

[ShawnaLanne]

2 hours ago, QuinnM said:

They cut it open, took out a tumor, sewed it up and I got Tylenol.  And quite frankly I was fine.  The worst of it is being incubated for 24 hours.

Everyone has different pain thresholds. I was given Vicodin after a gallbladder surgery. They ended up having to do an emergency cut and I still have problems with the eight inch cut across my stomach, a month after an emergency c section. Tylonol didn't work. I've been prescribed Oxy and it's too strong. It makes me ill. But the Vicodin worked.

Thankfully it's not a chronic pain. I'd never needed pain pills before and a week after surgery I flew cross country with my two month old baby for my father in laws retirement. I didn't know you should or could get refills. That three days before I returned home and got a refill taught me a lot about the fortitude of people with chronic pain.

[Mindthinkr]

30 minutes ago, walnutqueen said:

In my opinion, Tylenol is dangerous, just because people think it's so benign and they are not aware of the risks of overuse.

Tylenol mixed with alcohol (and it’s common for people to take this for a hangover) is toxic to the liver. 

[ShawnaLanne]

1 minute ago, Mindthinkr said:

Tylenol mixed with alcohol (and it’s common for people to take this for a hangover) is toxic to the liver. 

You're not supposed to mix it with soda either for the same reason.

[Jel]

In many cases, people take the opioid pain meds beyond the time they actually need that level of pain relief and because they like the effects. It can get into a self medicating emotions situation and that's the part that is very addictive and leads to abuse (generally).

I remember seeing a documentary many years ago about cancer patients who were in pain being given heroin (in the UK) to treat the pain.  None of them ended up being addicted to heroin because, as the clinician said, the pain kind of absorbs the addictive part.  People who are in serious physical pain need very strong drugs to handle it.  

Edited August 11, 2018 by Jel

[JennyMominFL]

5 hours ago, QuinnM said:

Open heart does not require any opioid.  They use Tylenol.  They use it because pain killers with opioid depress breathing, heart beat etc.

They gave my husband morphine and codeine after his aortic dissection. Hes been one multiple opiods since then and that was 2007.

My doctors have told us that hes dependent, Not addicted. hes dependent  because his body needs it and  because h goes through physical withdrawl when off of them... but there is no mental component that addiction requires. They may just be trying to make him feel better because he hates taking the meds

Edited August 11, 2018 by JennyMominFL

[howiveaddict]

5 hours ago, QuinnM said:

Open heart does not require any opioid.  They use Tylenol.  They use it because pain killers with opioid depress breathing, heart beat etc.

Tylenol is toxic to the liver.  They do give intravenous tylenol now, but it is  very expensive and I haven't seen it used a lot where I work.  Demerol, which was commonly prescribed for years, is neuro toxic and can cause seizures.  The pill form does not work any better than tylenol. I wish I had a dollar for every demerol shot I have given people over the years. I am a nurse and have seen anything and everything prescribed.  

[JennyMominFL]

Im a bit sad that in the many threads about Bethany righth now, so many people automatically assume that any drug overdose means someone was an addict, a user.  They might be right. My niece that died on Jan 1st was a user, an addict. She was also a living kind human being in a lot of mental pain. Many people though, are like my husband, in horrible pain and trying to live a life , to function , to sleep, to not be in agony.

There have been times in the past 11 years when my husband has accidentally doubled up and ive spent the night making sure he was Ok. As i said in another thread, i fear that one day the pain will be to much and he will take too many and die. or when the pain is so intense that he isnt thinking straight and takes too many. I hope people dont see him as just an addict. Hes just genuinely trying not to live in Horrible pain and to be able to contribute to society.  I know people who live like him who have died this way and its frustrating to see people write them off because “they did it to themselves” or whatever. And guess what happens to some of these people? There insurance cuts them off or the meds are too expensive, so they move to street drugs, its not really a simple issue.

 I will say that having narcan on hand makes me curious.

Edited August 11, 2018 by JennyMominFL

[Brock1976]

hi all, I've been watching this show for a few years, along with the other watch baits on Bravo like below deck and southern charm lol, my first time finding this forum, always wanted to chat about the show with other fans.

[ShawnaLanne]

2 minutes ago, Brock1976 said:

hi all, I've been watching this show for a few years, along with the other watch baits on Bravo like below deck and southern charm lol, my first time finding this forum, always wanted to chat about the show with other fans.

Welcome! You will enjoy this, I think. Though the NY boards are kind of crazy right now with Dennis' death. It is interesting how much you can get about individual personalities through their show posts. 

No one in my RL watches Bravo like I do, so this is awesome for me. 

[SuprSuprElevated]

8 hours ago, Brock1976 said:

hi all, I've been watching this show for a few years, along with the other watch baits on Bravo like below deck and southern charm lol, my first time finding this forum, always wanted to chat about the show with other fans.

Welcome and you better suit-up.  ?

[fountain]

19 hours ago, QuinnM said:

They cut it open, took out a tumor, sewed it up and I got Tylenol.  And quite frankly I was fine.  The worst of it is being incubated for 24 hours.

I donated a kidney and went home after 2 days and only used Tylenol but others that have donated have had way more ongoing pain then I did.  I did have a prescription for something else (I think morphine as I could have had morphine in the hospital but I chose an epidural) but I never filled it.  I do know I have a pretty high pain threshold or something in that my pain for things is much lower than others so I try not to judge other people’s pain as I think I am just lucky.

[AnnA]

14 hours ago, Brock1976 said:

hi all, I've been watching this show for a few years, along with the other watch baits on Bravo like below deck and southern charm lol, my first time finding this forum, always wanted to chat about the show with other fans.

Welcome!    The season finale and the reunion should give us all plenty to discuss.

[diadochokinesis]

My grandfather was an alcoholic so we have always been careful with anything addictive.  Oxy doesn’t do much for me other than make me be unable to focus my eyes on anything so that’s annoying.  Vicodin does the same thing. Luckily, I have a high pain tolerance so I did two c-sections with just Tylenol and/or Advil afterwards. My youngest was born in the Middle East and I wasn’t even given an option for a painkiller. My oldest was born in the US and they gave me a script for Vicodin but I never filled it. 

Funny painkiller story.  My mom had her knee replaced when she was around 70.  She has never been on heavy duty painkillers before. Her surgeon prescribed her some heavy duty painkiller (it was either oxy or Vicodin, can’t remember which). I was living 4 hours away at the time. My mom called me at 6 am in tears saying she was scared that she had taken too much painkillers because she couldn’t focus her eyes (apparently a family problem) and she felt “stupid.” So, I called my brother who lived 30 minutes away and had him go check on the situation (don’t ask me why she called me and not him).  He went over, counted all the pills (she hadn’t even been home from the hospital for 1 day), and deduced that our mom was high AF and apparently painkillers make her a paranoid neurotic mess.  She stopped taking the painkillers after that. 

[Anne Thrax]

On 8/10/2018 at 12:41 PM, SuprSuprElevated said:

The 72-hr rule is the time frame with which to consider withholding comment about a given story, until further information/facts come out.  

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My hubs has been prescribed many different opoids/painkillers for two major surgeries he's had in the past 6 years.  He went out of his way not to overuse them, but he did indeed use them.  I'm not sure what alternatives are out there for someone who had a half of a lung removed, a procedure that his cardiothoracic surgeon described as "worse than open heart".  He did not take them unless he was near tears, and in fact didn't take them often enough imo.  There is therapeutic value in not being in pain.  I realize that there are many, many people dying from them, and that is truly tragic, but to deny their availability to folks who are in true need worries me as well.  

I'm all for finding a suitable alternative, but for people like my husband and those with worse pain than he had, ibuprofin isn't the answer.  Next we'll be discussing all the people in liver failure due to the effects of ibuprofin and NSAIDS.

 

OMG = THIS!  I know from personal experience how awful it is to be in bone pain and not be able to have anything strong enough to give one a good night's sleep for instance.  All because a bunch of people are careless with them?  Those of us who demonstrate legitimate need and responsible use should be able to have at least one pill every day without tearful begging.

Edited August 13, 2018 by Anne Thrax

[Gem 10]

On 8/10/2018 at 3:41 PM, SuprSuprElevated said:

The 72-hr rule is the time frame with which to consider withholding comment about a given story, until further information/facts come out.  

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My hubs has been prescribed many different opoids/painkillers for two major surgeries he's had in the past 6 years.  He went out of his way not to overuse them, but he did indeed use them.  I'm not sure what alternatives are out there for someone who had a half of a lung removed, a procedure that his cardiothoracic surgeon described as "worse than open heart".  He did not take them unless he was near tears, and in fact didn't take them often enough imo.  There is therapeutic value in not being in pain.  I realize that there are many, many people dying from them, and that is truly tragic, but to deny their availability to folks who are in true need worries me as well.  

I'm all for finding a suitable alternative, but for people like my husband and those with worse pain than he had, ibuprofin isn't the answer.  Next we'll be discussing all the people in liver failure due to the effects of ibuprofin and NSAIDS.

So true, so true.  I hate when people who never had major surgery such as your husband or spinal surgery say, “I would never take opioids.”  After certain surgeries, when you can’t even get out of bed to go to the bathroom, you would take poison.  Tylenol or Advil are a joke.  Without prescribed drugs in certain cases, there would be no quality of life.  

[Gem 10]

On 8/10/2018 at 11:39 PM, Brock1976 said:

hi all, I've been watching this show for a few years, along with the other watch baits on Bravo like below deck and southern charm lol, my first time finding this forum, always wanted to chat about the show with other fans.

BEWARE .. These blogs are addictive.  I am on N.Y. (my favorite), O.C., Southern Charm, Below Deck, The Affair and Married at First Sight.  Practically every show has a blog.  Sometimes it’s too much, but you will get a lot of laughs.  Watch out for “Kung Foo Bunny”, haha.

[Gem 10]

On 8/10/2018 at 6:28 PM, ShawnaLanne said:

Everyone has different pain thresholds. I was given Vicodin after a gallbladder surgery. They ended up having to do an emergency cut and I still have problems with the eight inch cut across my stomach, a month after an emergency c section. Tylonol didn't work. I've been prescribed Oxy and it's too strong. It makes me ill. But the Vicodin worked.

Thankfully it's not a chronic pain. I'd never needed pain pills before and a week after surgery I flew cross country with my two month old baby for my father in laws retirement. I didn't know you should or could get refills. That three days before I returned home and got a refill taught me a lot about the fortitude of people with chronic pain.

Everyone has a story.  After spinal surgery, the surgeon gave my husband 120 Vicodin.  He took one, got dizzy and told the surgeon he didn’t like them.  Surgeon said “take them to the Police Station and give them the pills.  That’s what we did.  Weird, huh?

[Gem 10]

On 8/10/2018 at 5:58 PM, walnutqueen said:

I was on increasingly stronger pain meds for about 6 years, and was prescribed far too many of those opioid alternatives, with absolutely no concern for the levels of toxicity my body was being subjected to.  They weren't working for me, so I finally found a pain management specialist (she was also an excellent spinal surgeon) who put me on Vicodin & Oxycontin Oxycodone, which I was on for about 2 years.  I took a LOT, because I needed to be able to work.  The day I took early retirement I quit, cold turkey.  Never had a single withdrawal symptom or any addiction issues, but did suffer a lot of pain for the next few years.  Pain meds do nothing for me but ease the pain, so it is discouraging to see how this epidemic is making it more difficult for legitimate chronic pain sufferers to get relief.

In my opinion, Tylenol is dangerous, just because people think it's so benign and they are not aware of the risks of overuse.

Now, the orthopedic surgeons don’t want to give pain meds since all this shit started with the drug epidemic.  They now pass you off to Main Management.  Another doctor to add to the list.  Us people with legitimate pain issues have to suffer because people are using for recreation purposes.  Not fair.

[Gem 10]

On 8/10/2018 at 6:28 PM, ShawnaLanne said:

Everyone has different pain thresholds. I was given Vicodin after a gallbladder surgery. They ended up having to do an emergency cut and I still have problems with the eight inch cut across my stomach, a month after an emergency c section. Tylonol didn't work. I've been prescribed Oxy and it's too strong. It makes me ill. But the Vicodin worked.

Thankfully it's not a chronic pain. I'd never needed pain pills before and a week after surgery I flew cross country with my two month old baby for my father in laws retirement. I didn't know you should or could get refills. That three days before I returned home and got a refill taught me a lot about the fortitude of people with chronic pain.

 

On 8/10/2018 at 6:28 PM, ShawnaLanne said:

Everyone has different pain thresholds. I was given Vicodin after a gallbladder surgery. They ended up having to do an emergency cut and I still have problems with the eight inch cut across my stomach, a month after an emergency c section. Tylonol didn't work. I've been prescribed Oxy and it's too strong. It makes me ill. But the Vicodin worked.

Thankfully it's not a chronic pain. I'd never needed pain pills before and a week after surgery I flew cross country with my two month old baby for my father in laws retirement. I didn't know you should or could get refills. That three days before I returned home and got a refill taught me a lot about the fortitude of people with chronic pain.

I heard the cut is painful.  I was lucky.  I had the orthoscopic surgery for gallbladder where they put four holes and suck the sucker gallbladder out.  We all are learning so much about surgeries today, lol.  And drugs.

[Gem 10]

On 8/10/2018 at 3:58 PM, AnnA said:

I was given Oxy after my open heart surgery (triple bypass) and again after a hip replacement. 

My husband was given the fentenal patch after triple bypass.  I was given oxy after spinal fusion and two hip replacements, but only for a few weeks.  Then nothing.  That was a few years ago when all the doctors were afraid.  Looks like we are all married to the doctors now, after all these surgeries.  Lol.  Staying home is great.  One day grocery store, then home, one day doctor, then home .. maybe lunch in between.  And then, there’s always the blogs, thank God.  Wish I was working again.

Edited August 13, 2018 by Gem 10

[ShawnaLanne]

29 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

 

I heard the cut is painful.  I was lucky.  I had the orthoscopic surgery for gallbladder where they put four holes and suck the sucker gallbladder out.  We all are learning so much about surgeries today, lol.  And drugs.

They started with the laproscotic cuts and then discovered a hole in my stomach and had to do an emergency cut. Surprise!

I did not know what to do with the pain when my pills ran out. They didn't give me many either. I remember thinking that they'd surely given me enough to get through the pain and that I could soldier on. Not wanting to be seen as a pill seeker. I spent a lot of time thinking about people who live with chronic pain.

My father is addicted to Oxy. He hurt his back in the Marines, has fused disks. I don't talk to him for a variety of reasons, but can't really blame him for his addiction. What else is he going to do, faced with that?

[AnnA]

56 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

My husband was given the fentenal patch after triple bypass.  I was given oxy after spinal fusion and two hip replacements, but only for a few weeks.  Then nothing.  That was a few years ago when all the doctors were afraid.  Looks like we are all married to the doctors now, after all these surgeries.  Lol.  Staying home is great.  One day grocery store, then home, one day doctor, then home .. maybe lunch in between.  And then, there’s always the blogs, thank God.  Wish I was working again.

 

That's why I work part time - 3 days - 17 1/2 hours a week.   It keeps me sane.  I retired from a demanding high profile job so staying home wasn't for me.

ETA:   I had the same gall bladder surgery years ago

Edited August 13, 2018 by AnnA

[Gem 10]

9 hours ago, AnnA said:

That's why I work part time - 3 days - 17 1/2 hours a week.   It keeps me sane.  I retired from a demanding high profile job so staying home wasn't for me.

ETA:   I had the same gall bladder surgery years ago

Maybe we were bedmates somewhere along the line, lol.  Your triple by- pass was the worst.  Working again is the best for anyone’s mind, I agree.  It’s amazing that we can all talk about these things, right?  At a certain point, thimgs just hit out of nowhere.

[Gem 10]

11 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

They started with the laproscotic cuts and then discovered a hole in my stomach and had to do an emergency cut. Surprise!

I did not know what to do with the pain when my pills ran out. They didn't give me many either. I remember thinking that they'd surely given me enough to get through the pain and that I could soldier on. Not wanting to be seen as a pill seeker. I spent a lot of time thinking about people who live with chronic pain.

My father is addicted to Oxy. He hurt his back in the Marines, has fused disks. I don't talk to him for a variety of reasons, but can't really blame him for his addiction. What else is he going to do, faced with that?

Right?  Nobody knows until it happens to them.  Only then, they will understand.  Back problems are a horror.  Pain Mgt.  is the last resort.  Epidural shots sometimes help, but then they don’t.  It’s funny, when you watch any housewives show, they all are saying “ take a Xanax”.  These t.v. and movie stars get anything they want, probably if they don’t really need them.  It’s just not right.  Your Father has no quality of life.  I remember my Mother suffering with her back because the doctors gave nothing.  I used to go over and Massage her back to give her some relief.  I could just cry now thinking about that.  I should of went to her doctor and demand that he give her something, but what did I know about anything?  It’s only now, in my later years that I will speak up and have a big mouth.

Edited August 13, 2018 by Gem 10

[SunnyBeBe]

This thing with Dennis has me terrified. I know someone who has a very serious back problem.  It's quite serious and needs surgery, but, there are no promises....so, she is trying to manage the pain as long as possible.  They are trying to get her off the pain meds, because, if they do the surgery, they won't help her since she's so used to them.  It really does scare me. She could OD on these meds.  It's out of my control though. 

 My ex was addicted to opioids. He became addicted after an injury and couldn't let go. It was horrible and ruined the relationship. I have no idea how he is still alive.

Imo, it's a very common problem.    

Edited August 13, 2018 by SunnyBeBe

[Reality police]

Just wanted to chime in about medications. For starters, I am red headed. It does make a difference. We are different in the way drugs effect us. I was in the ER with a blood clot in my lungs, they gave me a shot of dilaudid. No effect. 20 minutes later another. Nothing. Finally showed up with morphine. Yeah morphine! Finally relief. The Doctor came in to see if I was unconscious. Nope, wide awake and talking. 

I take Vicodin for a chronic arthritis. You can't see a difference in me. I have a friend that can take a half of one and be climbing the walls. We all react differently. I sympathize for all those who have to take long term pain meds. Not fun. I also take prednisone, another one that will destroy you. But I have to take it to move. Oh well, enough whining.

Thanks for listening. Love you all.

[ShawnaLanne]

4 hours ago, Reality police said:

Just wanted to chime in about medications. For starters, I am red headed. It does make a difference. We are different in the way drugs effect us. I was in the ER with a blood clot in my lungs, they gave me a shot of dilaudid. No effect. 20 minutes later another. Nothing. Finally showed up with morphine. Yeah morphine! Finally relief. The Doctor came in to see if I was unconscious. Nope, wide awake and talking. 

I take Vicodin for a chronic arthritis. You can't see a difference in me. I have a friend that can take a half of one and be climbing the walls. We all react differently. I sympathize for all those who have to take long term pain meds. Not fun. I also take prednisone, another one that will destroy you. But I have to take it to move. Oh well, enough whining.

Thanks for listening. Love you all.

I'm a redhead too. Labor was insane, the several epidurals didn't work, it was 36 hours of labor and then off to an emergency C-section where they had to numb me more than once because it didn't work the first time.

I used Vicodin after my gallbladder surgery. It works, Oxy makes me ill.

Edited August 13, 2018 by ShawnaLanne

[JennyMominFL]

Id again like to reiterate that addiction and dependency are different things. Physically relying on painkiilers doesn't always mean addiction.