BlackMamba April 7, 2016 Share April 7, 2016 EP19: 1.75/0.61 EP10 of OJ: 3.2/1.3 http://www.tv-recaps-reviews.com/2016/04/tuesday-cable-ratings-april-5.html?m=1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2126032
Umbelina April 11, 2016 Share April 11, 2016 (edited) https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/real-housewives-of-bravo-ranked/entertainment All 89 Real Housewives, Ranked By Brian Moylan 40. Lisa Rinna (RHOBH): Like a birthday piñata bursting with crazy observations, this soap opera veteran can be a whole lot of fun, especially when she's breaking wineglasses and lunging for Kim Richards' throat -- but her crusade against Yolanda Foster's Lyme disease seems a little mean and misplaced. Edited April 11, 2016 by Umbelina 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2139850
WireWrap April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/real-housewives-of-bravo-ranked/entertainment All 89 Real Housewives, Ranked By Brian Moylan I like this one! LOL "25. Brandi Glanville (RHOBH): No one has gone from underdog to goat faster than Brandi, who was skewered by the Sisters Richards when she was first introduced, but eventually took her "no filter" shtick too far and started lashing out in violent and unpredictable ways. If Bethenny is the good version of unfiltered, Brandi is her evil cousin, cruelty masquerading as honesty. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2140000
NewDigs April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 He had me 'til: "If Bethenny is the good version of unfiltered,..." At least he said "if". 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2141593
SCS April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/real-housewives-of-bravo-ranked/entertainment All 89 Real Housewives, Ranked By Brian Moylan Great read. Was BM tossing some shade at the wives he likes vs the ones he doesn't via the embedded images? LVP looks stunning; Jill Zarin looks deranged. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2141697
motorcitymom65 April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 Great read. Was BM tossing some shade at the wives he likes vs the ones he doesn't via the embedded images? LVP looks stunning; Jill Zarin looks deranged. Maybe still making up for last year? He wrote in his recap after her birthday party last season that there was no way she was as young as she claimed. I think he estimated her as 10 years older than she was saying. He was being snarky, as he always is. He regularly mocks their looks, their hair, their clothes, their false claims about no plastic surgery, etc. He got some flack for this, however, from LVP on Twitter and from her fans. He did something he has never done before to anyone else he has mocked: he apologized to her in his next blog. He got flack for that at well. Lots of people didn't like the fact that he was giving in to the pressure of LVP and her fans, while never doing so for the others. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2141907
jaync April 12, 2016 Share April 12, 2016 He did something he has never done before to anyone else he has mocked: he apologized to her in his blog. Well, obviously the guy got caught in Lisa's mind-melding web. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2142775
BlackMamba April 14, 2016 Share April 14, 2016 EP 20: 1.97/0.73 http://www.tv-recaps-reviews.com/2016/04/tuesday-cable-ratings-april-12.html?m=1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2150193
BlackMamba April 21, 2016 Share April 21, 2016 EP 21, Reunion Pt 1: 2.0/0.73 http://www.tv-recaps-reviews.com/2016/04/tuesday-cable-ratings-april-19.html?m=1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2172159
BlackMamba April 28, 2016 Share April 28, 2016 Ep 22, Reunion Pt 2 - 1.884/0.67 http://www.tv-recaps-reviews.com/2016/04/tuesday-cable-ratings-april-26.html?m=1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2191677
zoeysmom May 4, 2016 Share May 4, 2016 Oh my poor Camille : http://www.allabouttrh.com/2016/05/04/camille-grammer-claiming-ptsd-abuse-exes-including-kelsey-grammer/ I wonder if she ever disclosed to Taylor? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2208219
kokapetl May 4, 2016 Share May 4, 2016 6 hours ago, zoeysmom said: Oh my poor Camille : http://www.allabouttrh.com/2016/05/04/camille-grammer-claiming-ptsd-abuse-exes-including-kelsey-grammer/ I wonder if she ever disclosed to Taylor? This seems like Mr Charapambobopolis is trying to pin the mental injuries from his very obvious physical domestic violence against Camille, on Frasier, who seems to have once grabbed Camille's arm, and had heated arguments with Camille. And Camille hasn't claimed Frasier abused her, these are a psychiatrist's notes, intended to be used by the psychiatrist. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2209444
BlackMamba May 4, 2016 Share May 4, 2016 Pt 3 - 1.67/0.57 http://www.tv-recaps-reviews.com/2016/05/tuesday-cable-ratings-may-3.html?m=1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2209483
editorgrrl June 6, 2016 Share June 6, 2016 Sumner Redstone's Ex Sydney Holland Pitching Herself for 'Real Housewives of Beverly Hills' http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rambling-reporter/sumner-redstones-sydney-holland-pitching-898377 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2308584
Wings June 6, 2016 Share June 6, 2016 7 minutes ago, editorgrrl said: Sumner Redstone's Ex Sydney Holland Pitching Herself for 'Real Housewives of Beverly Hills' http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rambling-reporter/sumner-redstones-sydney-holland-pitching-898377 Sounds good to me! I will accept anyone who replaces Yolanda. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2308617
NewDigs June 6, 2016 Share June 6, 2016 omg. Sumner Redstone. Ick. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2309424
Almost 3000 June 6, 2016 Share June 6, 2016 Quote Though no decisions have been made, Holland — who was with the billionaire Viacom and CBS mogul for five years — has a backstory that rivals any in the ZIP code. After being introduced by Millionaire Matchmaker star Patti Stanger, Holland began dating Redstone and quickly established herself as an influential figure in his life. Patty, really? :P From the Hollywood Reporter link. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2309575
editorgrrl June 6, 2016 Share June 6, 2016 (edited) From Yolanda's thread: 4 hours ago, WireWrap said: Let the rumors begin! LOL http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/yolanda-foster-lyme-disease-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-104252 The article says, "Lyme disease is off the table for her storyline.… Bravo gave Yolanda an ultimatum—her storyline this season will be looking for love since she is now single." It also says, "Lisa Vanderpump, Kyle Richards, Erika Girardi and Lisa Rinna will all return for the upcoming new season. Kim Richards will also continue to make appearances." Does this mean Kathryn and Eileen are gone? Edited June 7, 2016 by editorgrrl 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2309629
Wings June 7, 2016 Share June 7, 2016 41 minutes ago, editorgrrl said: From Yolanda's thread: The article says, "Bravo gave Yolanda an ultimatum—her storyline this season will be looking for love since she is now single." Yay, no Lyme! It also says, "Lisa Vanderpump, Kyle Richards, Erika Girardi and Lisa Rinna will all return for the upcoming new season. Kim Richards will also continue to make appearances." Does this mean Kathryn and Eileen are gone? Sounds like it to me but Intouch has not been stellar on the details. That would be fine with me. I like Kathryn but understand why they may not want her back. I don't like Eileen, not even a little, never did. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2309739
Wings June 7, 2016 Share June 7, 2016 I am going to take a wild running stab and say Yolanda is NOT into looking for love. That will be manufactured BS, of course. If that is what they have to do to keep her off the Lyme train, I can deal. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2309751
Wings June 7, 2016 Share June 7, 2016 This link has an interview with a reality show editor. It is on Rob Cesterino's (sp?) web site. He covers Survivor and BB mostly but others as well. Though this interview focus in on Survivor there is good information here about how stories are created on reality TV. It is audio only and long but easy to listen in the background. Some interesting information. http://robhasawebsite.com/reality-tv-post-production-editing-molly-shock-podcast/ 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2309869
princelina June 7, 2016 Share June 7, 2016 3 hours ago, wings707 said: I am going to take a wild running stab and say Yolanda is NOT into looking for love. That will be manufactured BS, of course. If that is what they have to do to keep her off the Lyme train, I can deal. Agree! But unfortunately all I can hear in my mind is "It's hard to find da love when you are dealing with da sick." 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2310430
Wings June 7, 2016 Share June 7, 2016 10 hours ago, princelina said: Agree! But unfortunately all I can hear in my mind is "It's hard to find da love when you are dealing with da sick." Well, I hope that article is correct about Bravo telling her to drop the Lyme talk or you are not coming back. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2311087
MMLEsq June 7, 2016 Share June 7, 2016 21 hours ago, editorgrrl said: ... Does this mean Kathryn and Eileen are gone? I heard on Radio Andy's Sirius station today -- on a show called "Reality Bites," I think -- that reports are that Kathryn won't be coming back for a second season. They didn't mention anything about Eileen. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2312103
tvfanatic13 June 8, 2016 Share June 8, 2016 I read a report that Kathryn and Yo are gone, and Eileen is demoted to friend. I can't remember where but I am just fine with that. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2314257
Wings June 8, 2016 Share June 8, 2016 There is another report that Yo will be asked back with the stipulation that Lyme is off the table. We should know fairly soon since they start filming at the end of June or soon thereafter. It is all just rumor now. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2314473
NewDigs June 8, 2016 Share June 8, 2016 I'll believe it when I don't see it. Some of that crap could have ended up on the cutting room floor. They had to realize how tiresome it was/is. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2314749
Wings June 9, 2016 Share June 9, 2016 (edited) On 6/6/2016 at 6:36 PM, wings707 said: This link has an interview with a reality show editor. It is on Rob Cesterino's (sp?) web site. He covers Survivor and BB mostly but others as well. Though this interview focus in on Survivor there is good information here about how stories are created on reality TV. It is audio only and long but easy to listen in the background. Some interesting information. http://robhasawebsite.com/reality-tv-post-production-editing-molly-shock-podcast/ I am quoting myself here because much of what Molly says is relevant to this franchise and I think you would get a lot out of it. I know things are manipulated to the hilt but sometimes I find myself defending the imagined integrity of this show. I am a twat for buying into the notion that maybe they really let things unfold. They do not. I am finally coming out of my cloud of trust to see that the bullshit is much more intense than I thought. And I thought a lot! UnReal lit the way to my deeper understanding. This season illustrated this more profoundly than others. Chad? Really? You want us to believe that he applied and CH knew nothing about his rage until Evan spoke to him. Really? REALLY? I will watch this show until it dies, it has become as integral in my life like Christmas. I love it, hate it and think it is most boring offering on TV. How can that be? Edited June 9, 2016 by wings707 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2315397
Happy Camper June 9, 2016 Share June 9, 2016 As long as Yolanda is gone I am happy. Who is with me? 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2315668
slitz June 15, 2016 Share June 15, 2016 WOOHOO!! Yolanda Foster leaving RHoBH 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2330358
jumper sage June 16, 2016 Share June 16, 2016 Speaking of Brandi - no thread for her new reality show? Good! She needs to go away. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2331172
thewhiteowl June 16, 2016 Share June 16, 2016 13 minutes ago, jumper sage said: Speaking of Brandi - no thread for her new reality show? Good! She needs to go away. I looked for it but didn't want to request it because I won't watch it and don't want to mod it. I was just curious enough to check and see what posters were saying but it doesn't seem like anyone is interested. You can request the forum if you want. Someone who is not me will volunteer to mod it . 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2331218
jumper sage June 16, 2016 Share June 16, 2016 36 minutes ago, thewhiteowl said: I looked for it but didn't want to request it because I won't watch it and don't want to mod it. I was just curious enough to check and see what posters were saying but it doesn't seem like anyone is interested. You can request the forum if you want. Someone who is not me will volunteer to mod it . I am right there with you on not watching. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2331289
zoeysmom June 16, 2016 Share June 16, 2016 15 hours ago, thewhiteowl said: I looked for it but didn't want to request it because I won't watch it and don't want to mod it. I was just curious enough to check and see what posters were saying but it doesn't seem like anyone is interested. You can request the forum if you want. Someone who is not me will volunteer to mod it . I checked the ratings, there was nothing remotely interesting to me in the trailers so it didn't even dawn on me to turn on the show, apparently I wasn't alone: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/06/15/tuesday-cable-ratings-june-14-2016/ It does not even show up. So much for Brandi delivering ratings. Her star power seems to be dimming. With Yolanda off RHOBH there doesn't seem to be a slot for her. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2332463
Cosmic Muffin June 17, 2016 Share June 17, 2016 I watched Brandy's new show while I did a craft project, I'm ashamed to say. I turned the show off when the project was done. Of the 8 "celebs" I only recognized two, yet they're all on there talking about how their celebrity makes it hard for them to date. The therapist even went along with this idea, while repeatedly using the word "celeb" to refer to all of them in the group therapy session. The whole cast is delusional I think, even for how very low the bar is for this show. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2333638
princelina June 17, 2016 Share June 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Cosmic Muffin said: I watched Brandy's new show while I did a craft project, I'm ashamed to say. I turned the show off when the project was done. Of the 8 "celebs" I only recognized two, yet they're all on there talking about how their celebrity makes it hard for them to date. The therapist even went along with this idea, while repeatedly using the word "celeb" to refer to all of them in the group therapy session. The whole cast is delusional I think, even for how very low the bar is for this show. Ha ha - I know, right? I only recognized Brandi and the gruesome and unpleasant "Aubrey O'Day" (I refuse to believe that is a real name :), who I only know because she pops up on these type of stupid shows that I watch to see some other fool. (Hilariously, she was on the last season of Couples Therapy with Kendra and Hank! And I didn't even believe her boyfriend was really her boyfriend then!) The fun part was seeing Brandi be herself around a louder bitch than she is - there was no LVP pearl clutching there! And Brandi had to give in, even though I actually took her side in the fight. But hearing the "therapist" carry on about their celeb status was a laugh riot. And then when they show them hanging out they're saying things like (to Brandi) "Who were you married to? I never heard of him." Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2333879
kokapetl June 17, 2016 Share June 17, 2016 1 hour ago, princelina said: Ha ha - I know, right? I only recognized Brandi and the gruesome and unpleasant "Aubrey O'Day" (I refuse to believe that is a real name :), who I only know because she pops up on these type of stupid shows that I watch to see some other fool. (Hilariously, she was on the last season of Couples Therapy with Kendra and Hank! And I didn't even believe her boyfriend was really her boyfriend then!) The fun part was seeing Brandi be herself around a louder bitch than she is - there was no LVP pearl clutching there! And Brandi had to give in, even though I actually took her side in the fight. But hearing the "therapist" carry on about their celeb status was a laugh riot. And then when they show them hanging out they're saying things like (to Brandi) "Who were you married to? I never heard of him." Aubrey should have won her season of Celebrity Apprentice! She's the shrewdest person I've seen on realty tv. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2334079
Cosmic Muffin June 17, 2016 Share June 17, 2016 I recognized Brandi and the guy from Jersey Shore, who I only ever saw on The Soup. I don't know who any of the rest of these "celebs" are. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2334366
MatildaMoody June 17, 2016 Share June 17, 2016 I wonder if I am just reading this wrong. http://www.realitytea.com/2016/06/17/brandi-glanville-blames-lisa-vanderpump-joanna-krupa-lawsuit-talks-new-book-trump-dating-ben-stiller/ Didn't Brandi initially claim that story of what Joanna's lady parts smelled like came from Mohammad and that Lisa V. was a witness? This article reads as though she is saying that it was Lisa V. who told her this and now Lisa is lying in her deposition about it. Even more confusing is I didn't think that Lisa had been deposed in this case yet. I know it's Brandi so there is no credibility there, but this is sounding desperately crazy to me. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2335207
thewhiteowl June 17, 2016 Share June 17, 2016 Desperately crazy is Brandi's M.O. See also: no credibility. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2335264
Wings June 17, 2016 Share June 17, 2016 No way in hell did either LVP or Mohammed make any statement about Krupa's crotch. I would bet my life on that. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2335355
WireWrap June 18, 2016 Share June 18, 2016 5 hours ago, MatildaMoody said: I wonder if I am just reading this wrong. http://www.realitytea.com/2016/06/17/brandi-glanville-blames-lisa-vanderpump-joanna-krupa-lawsuit-talks-new-book-trump-dating-ben-stiller/ Didn't Brandi initially claim that story of what Joanna's lady parts smelled like came from Mohammad and that Lisa V. was a witness? This article reads as though she is saying that it was Lisa V. who told her this and now Lisa is lying in her deposition about it. Even more confusing is I didn't think that Lisa had been deposed in this case yet. I know it's Brandi so there is no credibility there, but this is sounding desperately crazy to me. Yes, she repeatedly said that Mohamed said this to her and LisaV on WWHL and on twitter and when she made this claim on WWHL the first time she/LisaV were no longer friends, so she would have loved to use that against LisaV back then had her claim been true. She is a lying liar that lies. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2335976
jumper sage June 18, 2016 Share June 18, 2016 11 hours ago, Cosmic Muffin said: I recognized Brandi and the guy from Jersey Shore, who I only ever saw on The Soup. I don't know who any of the rest of these "celebs" are. So basically a bunch of other show losers fighting it out? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2335994
becauseIsaidso June 18, 2016 Share June 18, 2016 I saw brandi on WWHL...she seemed just as desperate - and pathetic - as ever. Wonder how she likes life as an F- list 'celeb'. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2336296
EVS July 7, 2016 Share July 7, 2016 (edited) New Housewife: http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/rhobh-adds-new-housewife-dorit-kemsley-for-season-7-w212347 i have no idea who she or her husband are. Eta: Here is his Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Kemsley Edited July 7, 2016 by EVS 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2387277
Avaleigh July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 So Lisa won against Yolanda. Love it. Not only is Yolanda demoted and not coming back but Lisa has made it up with Mohammed and she gets to be the only to bring on a new friend. Yolanda must be so pissed. I shamelessly admit that this feels incredibly satisfying. I know nothing about this woman Dorit but one pic of her in the Daily Mail doesn't do her justice and she's much prettier in other photos. I wonder why RHBH has so many one and dones? I want to say they have more than any other franchise. Dana, Marisa, Joyce, Carlton, Kathryn, Faye (sort of), etc. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2387721
bref July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 I see now some speculation here about Kathryn--sorry, I missed that. I just posted a link in her thread confirming she is not coming back. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2388341
tabloidlover July 9, 2016 Share July 9, 2016 I'm just gonna leave this here.... http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2016/07/blind-items-revealed-7-156.html Quote Arguably the second most famous person in this celebrity/reality family told a couple of people at a gathering that no one in her family has a disease which had been claimed most of the family suffers from. Gigi Hadid/Lyme Disease 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2392017
beaker73 September 3, 2016 Share September 3, 2016 20 hours ago, stewedsquash said: I read that Vidal Sassoon's daughter Eden is going to be a friend of this season. Don't know which housewife is her friend. The article I read said she and Rinna have mutual friends and that her family has a history with LVP so who knows... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2538215
KnotsLanding September 5, 2016 Share September 5, 2016 It seems the confirmed cast is: Erika, Lisa Rinna, Vanderpump, Kyle, Dorit, Eileen with Eden, Camille and Kim rumored as either full-time wives or friends. The cast trip is going to be South Africa. We may have a better idea of the full cast once we see who actually makes that trip. For the record, Camille has said she is only a friend of, but she has been filming more than she has recently, so it's possible she'll be doing more than just a couple guest spots. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/1866-rhobh-in-the-media/page/18/#findComment-2541194
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