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31 minutes ago, emma675 said:

Ugh. If Rinna, Erika, and Diana are back, I'm officially out. Not even Kyle and Sutton's house porn, Garcelle's awesomeness, nor vacation fabulousness can keep me around this time.

The vast majority of viewers do not want these three back. I will be out also if that happens because they are horrible human beings and sucked the joy out of the show.

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On 12/12/2022 at 11:29 AM, RoseAllDay said:

I was mainly talking about the trash that is Rinna, Girardi, and Jenkins. It’s sounded like Crystal’s status has been unclear since the season ended. That’s too bad, but it was pretty clear she couldn’t hold her own with that group — never found her footing. She did herself no favors with all the cryptic stuff involving Sutton, either.

I'm assuming that Crystal might return as, maybe, a Friend Of?

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It looks like Bravo is rerunning the season before last on Wednesday — the one where Erika threatens Sutton, and Tom rolled his car in a snowstorm.

Usually I like these marathons, but with BH, it’s like reliving a root canal. 

4 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I'm assuming that Crystal might return as, maybe, a Friend Of?

Don’t know, but that might be a better fit.

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I can't picture any scenario that has Diana returning. Best wishes for a healthy pregnancy but she way missed the mark on "love to hate" and instead seems to be getting nearly unanimous hate, deservedly so. So best of luck Diana with your babies and your sexually ambiguous husband who has some Instagram pics that suggest you might want to make sure he and your son never get hammered together with nobody else but River Viiperi around. Just saying.

I'd like to see Crystal return now that she's not afraid to talk back to Kyle and Erika, but after Andy called her the biggest liar of the reunion and the backstage reunion clips showed even the women she thought were friends are just being cordial at best, she's done.

If the entire Faux Force were to return, then Kathy would quit, which means there's no tension anymore between Kyle and the others, which means it's right back to the same played out mob dynamic. At a minimum, Lisa needs to get the boot. Something is needed to eliminate the toxicity, and the only thing that will accomplish that is a significant thinning of the alliance.

IMO, for the pause to be effective, I'd can Lisa, Diana and Dorit. Sorry Dorit, the alliance needs complete dissolution and I'm not going to kid myself that firing Erika is even being considered yet. And the awkwardness between Erika and Kyle (probably the most forced friendship amongst the alliance) at being the only ones left could be amusing. Will they stick together or would Kyle "jump ship" again? Assuming Crystal is gone too they'll likely need two new full timers to get to six. More than that is unnecessary. Fill those slots with brand new housewives (no retreads: Brandi, LVP, Teddi, Camille, etc.) with some Hollywood connections, at least one of whom was born after 1980 (to see Kyle's head spin at having to still deal with *gasp* millennials). And bring Jennifer Tilly in place of Sheree as a friend of since Sutton's paid enough dues at this point to get a friend onto the show. If Lisa's gone, Kathy can stay or leave, I don't care either way and without the late season gang-up I'd have probably been completely over Kathy's high maintenance nitwit shtick. If I need that fix I can go watch pretty much anything Jennifer Coolidge has acted in.

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On 12/12/2022 at 9:45 AM, emma675 said:

Ugh. If Rinna, Erika, and Diana are back, I'm officially out. Not even Kyle and Sutton's house porn, Garcelle's awesomeness, nor vacation fabulousness can keep me around this time.

I've been out for several years now and only keep up with the show via witty comments and recapping here.  Show of hands if you believe there will be all sorts of hints and previews of an explosive season to get people to tune in.  I hope everyone has had enough and Andy has to explain to the Bravo bosses why they franchise isn't even drawing a million viewers an episode.

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If Lisa Rinna is back on next season, I wont be watching. I seriously want Erica, Kyle and now Crystal out too. Diana looks like its going to be a no-way shes hired back, so I wont even mention her here. 

I cant stand any of them. Why would I want to continue watching them. 

For me, tv time is for actual entertainment and not to become tense, stressed and outraged by a teevee show that started out as fun and then switches to this lower than trailer trash garbage... such as what Lisa and Erica are. 

Even Crystal loses big points for following the garbage techniques and using character assassination tactics, attempting to destroy anothers reputation for a stupid “storyline” to try and gain some relevance on the show.
Keep your crap show Andy. Keep all your tv offerings, Bravo who endorses this. 

Thats a big “Nope, not interested”, from me. No one more viewer counted in the dwindling numbers from this former fan. 

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Rick Hilton was bought out by his former real estate agency's partner's wife. The agency (Hilton & Hyland) was in disarray after Hyland died of cancer in February. Hilton will create a new agency with his son Barron who worked for Hyland and Hilton along with his wife Tessa, and even Nicky Hilton (she did for at least until she got married). Rick Hilton is not exactly intelligent, and his partner was probably using his name after Rick had to find some kind of employment since his grandfather disinherited the whole family. 

https://therealdeal.com/la/2022/12/15/slick-rick-strikes-out-with-hilton-hilton/

This explains Kathy's explosion against Kyle by using her connections to tabloids and social media since February. The incident in Aspen happened in late January (I think the 30th). Rick's agency was in disarray while Mauricio's is doing fine, and he was offered a reality show.

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On 12/18/2022 at 5:56 PM, RoseAllDay said:

Just saw a post on Reddit with a Twitter screenshot linking Mauricio with Tom and Erika. Can anybody quickly fill me in on what that’s all about? Or where to go on the forum to get the story? I kinda know about Mo’s real estate troubles — is it connected somehow to the Girardis?

Mauricio's real estate agency is not in any kind of trouble. This is a fake story (it's not a bad idea to check stories for veracity). It also implicates Rick Hilton's agency, and another agency (Coldwell Banker).

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On 12/19/2022 at 6:34 PM, Carolina Girl said:

I've been out for several years now and only keep up with the show via witty comments and recapping here.  Show of hands if you believe there will be all sorts of hints and previews of an explosive season to get people to tune in.  I hope everyone has had enough and Andy has to explain to the Bravo bosses why they franchise isn't even drawing a million viewers an episode.

I’m getting pretty damn sick of the way Andy and Bravo treat their audience.* We have a choice not to watch their stuff, and if people don’t watch, advertisers will stop buying time, Bravo will lose money…straight on down the line. So just keep playing with us, guys…eff around and find out.

I’m not watching BH if the coven is back. I’ve already stopped watching BD, except for reruns of the seasons I enjoy, which are mainly the early ones. (Edit — I was watching this season until a Certain Person Who Shall Remain Nameless came back.)

*See Below Deck.

11 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Mauricio's real estate agency is not in any kind of trouble. This is a fake story (it's not a bad idea to check stories for veracity). It also implicates Rick Hilton's agency, and another agency (Coldwell Banker).

I did look around, but didn’t see anything, but I couldn’t spend all day tracking it down. I figured with the wealth of information here, someone would know of it, if true.

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59 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

I’m getting pretty damn sick of the way Andy and Bravo treat their audience.* We have a choice not to watch their stuff, and if people don’t watch, advertisers will stop buying time, Bravo will lose money…straight on down the line. So just keep playing with us, guys…eff around and find out.

I’m out also if they’re back. It is no longer fun escapism TV which is what I wanted.

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3 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Yay! I always enjoy reading your posts. I respect your decision to quit watching. Bravo is just like crack to me. I struggle watching most things, but unfortunately I cannot look away from Housewives. 

Me, too! I hate myself for it, assisting in paying the salaries of these TRULY awful creatures. But it’s mesmerizing for me, a study in human behavior. Then listening to Ronnie and Ben: they really understand what drives these disgusting individuals. It’s therapeutic to hear them validate my opinions, or when they help me analyze the actions of Erika, Rinna and Diana. 

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40 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Me, too! I hate myself for it, assisting in paying the salaries of these TRULY awful creatures. But it’s mesmerizing for me, a study in human behavior. Then listening to Ronnie and Ben: they really understand what drives these disgusting individuals. It’s therapeutic to hear them validate my opinions, or when they help me analyze the actions of Erika, Rinna and Diana. 

Yes! They're friends in my head. So glad you're still watching hoodooz. :)

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Bravo, and Andy pushing this upon its viewers, even though its basically unanimous on all the sites I read and see about the players ... people are disgusted with this ever growing and evolving dark ugliness of the FFFive, is what turns me off to this show the most. 

It was bad enough watching Erica viciously verbally attacking Sutton at Kathys luncheon table last year. It truly was jaw dropping, and not in a good way. This year while watching that most horrific display of crassness, extreme poor manners, and across the room LOUD screeching trash talk coming out of Lisa Rinnas mouth at Dorits dinner for the not toothless people, I embarrassed my own self for sitting through that and actually watching that disgusting spectacle. I deserve to be watching better and more sophisticated shows than this slop from so-called high society peoples personal lifestyles in a reality show. Homeless slum people have better manners. Well, at least a lot of them do. 

It was then I decided not to watch after this season ended, but would just finish out the season, to see how it ended. 

Then Aspen happened and the reunion and now everybody is left wondering if Bravo is going to take out the trash. 

Nope, its obvious they want to continue shoving their trash down the throats of anyone who will watch their chosen form of entertainment which is plain cruelty to good people and rewards for the evil ones. 

Much like what is going on in the real world these days.

They offered Diana another contract? They didn’t can Lisa Rinna? Or Erica? Thats what Bravo and Andy think of the viewers. They think we will be conditioned and accept this as ok, and their collection of decades of old fans will keep watching. 

I know it is addicting and it’s going to be a little bit hard not to want to sneak a peek at the clown factory next season, BUT I think it will be easy for me to ditch this show. They ditched us first... and slapped our faces with it and told us they will continue to do so, next season. They believe they rule the viewing world with their sick forms of “entertainment”... offer evil, and we should just shut up and take it. They will continue from behind and in front of the cameras to try and condition us to accept this, and desensitize people who normally expect better, from their fellow man. 

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6 hours ago, SassyCat said:

Bravo, and Andy pushing this upon its viewers, even though its basically unanimous on all the sites I read and see about the players ... people are disgusted with this ever growing and evolving dark ugliness of the FFFive, is what turns me off to this show the most. 

It was bad enough watching Erica viciously verbally attacking Sutton at Kathys luncheon table last year. It truly was jaw dropping, and not in a good way. This year while watching that most horrific display of crassness, extreme poor manners, and across the room LOUD screeching trash talk coming out of Lisa Rinnas mouth at Dorits dinner for the not toothless people, I embarrassed my own self for sitting through that and actually watching that disgusting spectacle. I deserve to be watching better and more sophisticated shows than this slop from so-called high society peoples personal lifestyles in a reality show. Homeless slum people have better manners. Well, at least a lot of them do. 

It was then I decided not to watch after this season ended, but would just finish out the season, to see how it ended. 

Then Aspen happened and the reunion and now everybody is left wondering if Bravo is going to take out the trash. 

Nope, its obvious they want to continue shoving their trash down the throats of anyone who will watch their chosen form of entertainment which is plain cruelty to good people and rewards for the evil ones. 

Much like what is going on in the real world these days.

They offered Diana another contract? They didn’t can Lisa Rinna? Or Erica? Thats what Bravo and Andy think of the viewers. They think we will be conditioned and accept this as ok, and their collection of decades of old fans will keep watching. 

I know it is addicting and it’s going to be a little bit hard not to want to sneak a peek at the clown factory next season, BUT I think it will be easy for me to ditch this show. They ditched us first... and slapped our faces with it and told us they will continue to do so, next season. They believe they rule the viewing world with their sick forms of “entertainment”... offer evil, and we should just shut up and take it. They will continue from behind and in front of the cameras to try and condition us to accept this, and desensitize people who normally expect better, from their fellow man. 

👏To me, weaponizing Garcelle’s younger son was the last straw. In this social climate, that was DANGEROUS. Even if it was off screen, this is what happens when people like Andy Cohen and whoever else behind these shows build these people up so much that they think they can get away with just about anything — and they DO! Rinna, Erika, and Diana need to be banished, but look at all the press they generate. The more outrageous the better. That is all Andy cares about. It’s a disgusting and cynical business model that puts P.T. Barnum to shame. What was Andy’s response about Jax? A finger wag and a lecture to the VIEWERS not to do that, while two of the three bitches who started it all were at his side.

There was once “campiness” and “the people you love to hate” vibe with these shows, because they were so over the top that you couldn’t take them seriously. (Vicki yelling about the family van, for instance.) But all the Housewives franchises I follow have now taken very dark turns that I can’t stand to watch. The only Bravo show I’m interested in now is Million Dollar Listing LA, because it’s still pretty much focused on real estate transactions and house porn. Andy must not be too involved with it.

It’s sad. Andy is killing his brand and he seems not to care.

 

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Agree that all of these shows have these horrid creatures, i.e. Erika.

But as to whether Andy is killing his brand?  On WWHL, there was a poll (or a question, can't remember) if the HW shows will still be airing 10 years from now.  A resounding "Yes".

Audiences love this.  Which is why there are many podcasts, message boards, Bravocon, etc.  

I always say I won't watch anymore, but I still do.

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9 hours ago, SassyCat said:

I know it is addicting and it’s going to be a little bit hard not to want to sneak a peek at the clown factory next season, BUT I think it will be easy for me to ditch this show. They ditched us first... and slapped our faces with it and told us they will continue to do so, next season. They believe they rule the viewing world with their sick forms of “entertainment”... offer evil, and we should just shut up and take it. They will continue from behind and in front of the cameras to try and condition us to accept this, and desensitize people who normally expect better, from their fellow man. 

I left after Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy.  It's not as hard as you think it will be.  I do still read the boards because y'all are hilarious.  I know what's going on, but don't have to sit and tolerate the assholes on the show.

I do feel like I'm missing out on Garcelle though.  

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5 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

👏To me, weaponizing Garcelle’s younger son was the last straw. In this social climate, that was DANGEROUS. Even if it was off screen, this is what happens when people like Andy Cohen and whoever else behind these shows build these people up so much that they think they can get away with just about anything — and they DO! Rinna, Erika, and Diana need to be banished, but look at all the press they generate. The more outrageous the better. That is all Andy cares about. It’s a disgusting and cynical business model that puts P.T. Barnum to shame. What was Andy’s response about Jax? A finger wag and a lecture to the VIEWERS not to do that, while two of the three bitches who started it all were at his side.

There was once “campiness” and “the people you love to hate” vibe with these shows, because they were so over the top that you couldn’t take them seriously. (Vicki yelling about the family van, for instance.) But all the Housewives franchises I follow have now taken very dark turns that I can’t stand to watch. The only Bravo show I’m interested in now is Million Dollar Listing LA, because it’s still pretty much focused on real estate transactions and house porn. Andy must not be too involved with it.

It’s sad. Andy is killing his brand and he seems not to care.

 

Yes! This! 1000%

What they all did to Garcelle at that reunion, and before that, concerning the attack(s) on Jax incidents. Two of them. First Ericas disgusting raunchy Jax attack at his own mothers birthday party, and then the horrific threats to this innocent boy on social media by whom we all think did it.

The laughing about it that Kyle, Maurice, PK and Dorit did, with the flimsy excuse that they weren’t there to see it, so that makes it ok that they laughed and found it funny and just so GREAT and wonderful that Erica is back to feeling her slimy oats again. Thats what mattered to them. Miss Pat the puss’es mental state. 

What angers me SO much is Kyles flippant “My bad” as her supposed apology to Garcelle at the reunion about that incident makes my blood literally boil. 🤯

“My bad” is the stupidest new verbiage to emerge out of the mouths of any human as far as I am concerned. Especially from an adult in this particular circumstance. 

Then Andy 👹 sitting there with his glassy button eyes and perma-sick grin at the reunion. NOT coming fourth with his own outrage at the two incidents and slapping Garcelle further in the face by announcing that they had HR look into the Aspen events, but NOT give a second thought about the threats to Jax! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

That the reunion salt poured on Garcelles wounds, for me, really was the straw that broke the camels toe. 

Punish the good and look the other way at the lawless cruelty. Ignoring the true and real damage their 🦨💨 stinking 💨 show brought to Garcelle and her viewing fans who sit and wait for some semblance of justice and humanity shown to Garcelles family. Which she deserved. She deserved Andys AND Bravos outrage at these attacks on her unsuspecting child.

Andy is a father/parent now. He should understand THIS was what merited a microscopic look into. She deserved a professional HR deep delve look into these incidents that are provable by the written and published threats on Jax’s social media.  Not the stupid unproven Aspen Caribou Club events. Claims that came from the huge lips of a liar and her protected thieving sidekick who constantly push their ulterior motives. 

Andy and Bravos lack of common human decency to Garcelle and Jax are sickening. How am I as a viewer, supposed to tune into the cesspool of lowlifes these people have proved to be, in the spirit of entertainment? It’s a sadistic feeding frenzy which is welcomed for shock value, and not my cup of tea. Not even close. 

I do love and value this group of forum readers and opinions though. It’s been the best part of watching. Its nice to see most of the human race is also appalled, as they should be. 

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4 hours ago, dosodog said:

I left after Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy.  It's not as hard as you think it will be.  I do still read the boards because y'all are hilarious.  I know what's going on, but don't have to sit and tolerate the assholes on the show.

I do feel like I'm missing out on Garcelle though.  

I stopped watching a lot of these shows. I have Peacock, so if I want, I can always binge-watch the “good old days.” 🙂

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7 hours ago, dosodog said:

I left after Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy.  It's not as hard as you think it will be.  I do still read the boards because y'all are hilarious.  I know what's going on, but don't have to sit and tolerate the assholes on the show.

I do feel like I'm missing out on Garcelle though.  

I stopped after Lucy too, but came back this season because of curiosity about Garcelle and Sutton. I really like them, but Rinna and Ericka have ruined the show, and I won't watch if they're still on.

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On 12/23/2022 at 10:56 PM, Starlight925 said:

Garcelle is just good people.

I watched her way back when, on NYPD Blue.  Love her even more now.  

Good people indeed.

How dare these women use Jax like that, for their amusement.

It wasn’t for their amusement. They wanted to get back at Garcelle, because Garcelle saw through ALL their BS, and they could not have that. I don’t care if the Twitter posts, etc., were made by bots or whatever, Diana CANNOT ever walk back her “Trolls, do your best” snark against a young teen.

I don’t know how Garcelle managed to sit through the reunion.

But it’s sounding like Jenkins, Rinna, and Girardi will be back, so here we are again. Bad behavior rewarded, as usual.

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18 hours ago, Jel said:

I think they should cast her. Kyle will have to up her crying game. 
I don’t want to see Diana in any capacity next season. I was really hoping Rinna would get fired. I find her repulsive. Andy likes Erika so I’m sure she won’t be fired anytime soon. 
I like Crystal. Despite her failed attempt at creating some drama, I find her likable. 
As long as Garcelle returns I know I’ll be watching. 

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CNN just reran an interview Larry King did with Barbara Walters, rest her soul. This was a while back (Think Real Housewives of DC, remember that?) and he asked her what she thought of reality TV. “It’s all, ‘what do we drink today? where do we shop today?’ In 10 years they’ll all be rich and famous.”

She wasn’t wrong.

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On 12/28/2022 at 2:12 PM, Jel said:

I hope this doesn't happen. She is 
vile (like her whole family), and I don't care how much she makes as a DJ. This gig has time limits anyway, that's why she is now claiming she wants to have a kid with the husband she left behind for many months just after the wedding for events. The sex tape, the racial slurs, the jail, the disgusting behavior, and this: She fed a fake, slanderous story via her publicist to the New York Post (the family always had connections to tabloids, bloggers, etc.) about the ex girlfriend of her boyfriend and then fiancé at the time (Paris Latsis) attacking her outside a club to grab her necklace in a jealous rage. The woman was another socialite married to the son of a well known jeweler before. She sued Hilton who settled the $10 million lawsuit just before jury selection for the trial, to possibly avoid perjury. 

https://www.accessonline.com/articles/paris-hilton-settles-10m-defamation-lawsuit-with-zeta-graff-60601

During her deposition, Paris insisted she didn’t know anything about the article in the Post. However, her former publicist Rob Shutter went on the record to say that Paris was the one who gave him the information to pass on to the Post.

 

"Beyond Tacky And Rude": Kathy Hilton Is Being Called Out For Applying Lipstick And Visibly Sighing During Mariska Hargitay's Emotional Acceptance Speech At The People's Choice Awards.

Kathy Hilton, a reality star and fashion designer, is facing backlash over her "extraordinarily rude" behavior at last night's People's Choice Awards.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseastewart/kathy-hilton-backlash-peoples-choice-awards-2022

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14 hours ago, ZettaK said:

I hope this doesn't happen. She is 
vile (like her whole family), and I don't care how much she makes as a DJ. This gig has time limits anyway, that's why she is now claiming she wants to have a kid with the husband she left behind for many months just after the wedding for events. The sex tape, the racial slurs, the jail, the disgusting behavior, and this: She fed a fake, slanderous story via her publicist to the New York Post (the family always had connections to tabloids, bloggers, etc.) about the ex girlfriend of her boyfriend and then fiancé at the time (Paris Latsis) attacking her outside a club to grab her necklace in a jealous rage. The woman was another socialite married to the son of a well known jeweler before. She sued Hilton who settled the $10 million lawsuit just before jury selection for the trial, to possibly avoid perjury. 

https://www.accessonline.com/articles/paris-hilton-settles-10m-defamation-lawsuit-with-zeta-graff-60601

During her deposition, Paris insisted she didn’t know anything about the article in the Post. However, her former publicist Rob Shutter went on the record to say that Paris was the one who gave him the information to pass on to the Post.

 

"Beyond Tacky And Rude": Kathy Hilton Is Being Called Out For Applying Lipstick And Visibly Sighing During Mariska Hargitay's Emotional Acceptance Speech At The People's Choice Awards.

Kathy Hilton, a reality star and fashion designer, is facing backlash over her "extraordinarily rude" behavior at last night's People's Choice Awards.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseastewart/kathy-hilton-backlash-peoples-choice-awards-2022

Sounds like Paris would fit right in, TBH.

This sounds like what Brandi did — hinted, and then she walked it back. (There were stories about Brandi on my Google homepage that I didn’t bother to click on. I see these teases as an easy way for them to keep their names in the tabloids.)

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58 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I mean we all honestly know what this means she would never walk away this is her income stream that she counts on 

I think, in the very near future, there will be yet another podcast about RHOBH, hosted by Lisa Rinna.  You, too, will be able to listen to her cackle and crow by subscribing-in case you start missing that!!!    🤣

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6 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:
it was time honestly I think 

 

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3 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I think, in the very near future, there will be yet another podcast about RHOBH, hosted by Lisa Rinna.  You, too, will be able to listen to her cackle and crow by subscribing-in case you start missing that!!!    🤣

I don’t think Ben and Ronnie will have anything to worry about. I predict she’ll try to pimp some “Osbornes”/“Kardashians”-hybrid show featuring her, Harry, and the girls to TLC. She’ll try to reinvent herself as the new Kris Jenner.

Andy, from the bottom of my heart..IT TOOK YOU LONG ENOUGH.

One down, two to go.

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4 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I think, in the very near future, there will be yet another podcast about RHOBH, hosted by Lisa Rinna.  You, too, will be able to listen to her cackle and crow by subscribing-in case you start missing that!!!    🤣

I think I remember reading that Teddy and Tamra were looking for a third host to do the Real Housewives of Orange County recaps now that Tamra is back on the show. Did they ever find someone? If not, I wouldn’t be surprised if Rinna ends up being their third host. 

Best Housewives casting news in a while. If only they would get rid of Erika too. 

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On 1/5/2023 at 7:50 PM, njbchlover said:

I wonder who's decision this was.  I'm assuming her contract was not renewed by Bravo/producers, and not her choice.

Glad to be rid of her!  

The story said she wanted $2M per episode, which would've made her the highest paid HW. Bravo said No thanks! Good for them. 

Don't know if this is true, but Andy Cohen has claimed that HWS rarely leave on their own. It's usually Bravo's decision not to renew their contracts, and Bravo doesn't really care how the HW spins the news. Probably the case here. 

Considering how vile her behavior was last season, I'm surprised she'd have the gonads to ask for $2. But I guess she thought bringing so much drama made her invaluable. 

Would love to see Erika go next, but probably won't happen. Would also be thrilled if they finally ditched Kyle, but I seriously doubt it. She's the OG of the show and producers seem to like her. Guess her victim act and constant tears works for them. 

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