S01.E09: 3:00 P.M

[AnimeMania]

After a staff debrief from Robby, Dana defuses a waiting room brawl, Whitaker finds common ground with "The Kraken," and McKay faces a crucial error.

Premiere Date: February 27, 2025     Max      9pm  

Craig Cackowski

[Irlandesa]

Ugh.  Don't redeem Santos by making her right and self-sarcificing.  It goes contrary to what we know about her.  And there are personalities like Santos in medicine.  It's okay to show it. 

Noah Wyle wrote this episode and I think it probably had the most ER-esque feel. I thought there was a lot of fun humor from Dana's "How to bury your feelings" line about Robby's speech to Whitaker catching the rat to applause. 

I had hoped the cops were there for the mask puncher.  I love Langdon's bitchy "do you want us to wear masks in surgery?" 

 

[rwlevin]

Everything Langdon said to Santos was true. Even though she was right about the sodium, there’s a chain of command and when she makes a mistake, everybody gets in trouble. Should he have talked down to her like that in front of an audience? No. However, she almost killed the guy with the pneumothorax, dropped the scalpel on Garcia, disrespected both medical students by calling them names they don’t like and has made horrible accusations against Langdon just because the alcoholic lost some pills from his pocket and she couldn’t open a medication vial. I would not want her as a doctor.

In other news, I hope the silent heart attack guy gets arrested for assault. Guess what, jerk, they have all your info so they can just go and pick you up. Oh, and I love Crosby. He’s the real hero of the show.

[bybrandy]

Team Crosby.

 

also go Whittaker for taking the time to talk to the kraken and even be moved to volunteer. plus his mad farm boy skills. 
 

I worry they are trying to turn me around on Santos but I’m doubling down her move this episode was to gain allies in her vendetta against Langdon. Maybe even going so far as to cry foul a few hours for now about Langdon crediting the other doc for her brilliant save because he is so anti Santos. 
 

Javadi and Dana talking about Utah’s was a cute bit but I’m glad it didn’t drag on longer. 
 

I hope silent heart attack collapses. 

[Morrigan2575]

Ugh and here goes the redemption of Santos 🙄

I have to say while there were parts I liked, this episode was the first meh for me and it all has to do with the obvious oh no Santos isn't bad she's just misunderstood 🤢

Anyone else worried about Crosby getting rabies from the rat?  Figured the farm boy wouldn't even bat an eye at the rat.  I did jump a little when he snapped it's neck.

I think we're starting to see McKay's arc, she's been relatively untouched by patients/mistakes but now we see her possibly make a mistake based on bias (i thought that was actually a good way to handle the topic). She was a little too involved with the probably trafficked girl and I'm guessing she reported teen boy.

Sad confirmation on Collins but, I think we all knew. Glad she talked to Dana and has a friend/support at work. Speaking of, Dana is awesome and was that a little Philly coming out when she broke up the fight?  I'm betting asshole does get rushed back with a heart attack and our team has to care for him even after he hit Dana 😡

[Infie]

Ep 1.09 : 43:00 

re: Langdon yelling at Santos - I completely understand where he was coming from and I actually mostly agree with him.  Maybe not so much dressing her down in public, but there is no question that the dressing down had to happen.  

I don't understand why the woman who hit the other woman wasn't arrested for battery.  It doesn't make sense to me. 

I'm glad that they're showing the aftermath of the little girl's death. 

Edited Friday at 04:45 AM by Infie
hit save before I meant to

[Auntie Anxiety]

Go Crosby. I had a terrier who caught a couple of mice in my house. She saw it, ran faster than I thought possible, grabbed those suckers by the neck and shook them dead. After that happened, she didn’t quite know what to do next. Amazing natural instinct.

Good article this past week in The NY Times about real doctors loving this show. Worth the read.

[Raachel2008]

This episode was very very ER, from the cleaning lady finding the dead girl’s hair bow to Robby’s sad story being interrupted like that,  from Collins running scared of the rat to Dana (!!!) being assaulted. How dare them do this to her?

That fucker better be arrested and charged with assault. Jail for this asshole.

The woman who lost her tooth should have reported the non mask mom. Langdon “do you want masks in the OR?” was perfect. I hope toothless woman sues, that dental work is going to cost a lot to look perfect.

Whitaker is truly a farm boy. I’m a Collin’s “running for her life” person and there is no way you would make me watch that scene again. He was amazing with the Kraken and understood pretty quick the money problem there.

I have a question: the Kraken was scratching his leg, was that because he was dirty and needed a bath or because he has eas having withdrawal symptoms and the whole “Ive been sober for a year” was bullshit?

“Matteo is like a human Utah” - HAHAHHAHA

I was  expecting overdosed festival patient to be incel boy or Robby’s mentor’s son, Jake.

Langdon 110% heard from Garcia about Santos saying he is stealing drugs. His entire demeanor screamed “pissed off” at a personal level - topped with how bad she behaved before you had a deserved but poorly delivered and out of place and wrong tone dressing down.

I don’t care that Santos was right - it is her job to be right and it is unfair to herself AND to Mohan that she didn’t own her diagnosis - what happens if the saline treatment  turns out to have complications later? 

Santos “questioned” Robby about the Ativan dose saying it was high enough and again when Mohan wanted to give the patient another dose. She is clearly against giving drugs over the limit she thinks (or the books say) is right, which shows (again) that she lacks real experience. Of course it shows that she comes from some drug abuse background - my bet disfunctional home with addict and (probably) abusive parent. 

“Sometimes experience counts for something” - except when these are your superiors, right? Shut up, Santos go own your mistakes that almost caused a patient’s death.

IF someone is stealing drugs, it is one of the nurses. I think no one is, though.

Robby was great correcting Landon, except the part he yelled at him and then said he was wrong yelling at Santos. The line harassment not being an educational tool was great.

Langdon and Mel are just great together.

Crosby, you hero.

Edited Friday at 06:28 AM by Raachel2008

[kickingnames]

I started hitting the mute button when I felt like something was going to irrationally raise my blood pressure. Really upped my enjoyment of the episode.

Oh, Noah Wyle wrote the episode, you say? And it ends from the viewpoint of a medical professional lying helplessly on the ground after being attacked unexpectedly? What are the odds?

[AheadofStraight]

Noah also wrote episode 4, FYI. (I only know that because I just listened to him on Marc Maron's podcast.)

Not much to add but just had to say I loved the hypocrisy of not believing in masks yet wanting the medical providers to wear them. 🔥

Agree with everything about Santos. I don't want her redemption. 

My jaw hit the floor when waiting room dude punched her in the face. WTAF!!! Punching a woman took it up a notch (not that punching a dude is better, either). He was even stupid enough to drop his paper with his info on it. We just know he's going to go down and they'll save his life. 🙃

I was screaming, "Don't fade to black now, nooooooooo" as it ended. This show breezes by.

 

[Morrigan2575]

I half wonder of they point of the episode was highlighting peoples hypocrisy.

Nurse Dana smokes 

Santos tells Mohan you have to go by instinct not books but yet when Langdon goes by instinct not book she starts accusing him of stealing drugs

Robby tells Langdon to be a leader/teacher and don't humiliate subordinates in front of others while doing exactly that to Langdon.

MAGA chicken doesn't believe in vaccines/masks but wants surgeons to wear them in the OR.

 

[Infie]

If this was real life, Santos' unwillingness to use medications therapeutically would end up costing someone - maybe several someones - their minds or their lives.  As a parent of a child who had several episodes of status epilepticus - where a seizure starts and does not end - if the docs hadn't been willing to drug her into surgery-levels of anaesthesia, she would have died.  One of her seizures lasted over 10 hours.  I find Santos enraging and not in a good way. 

Good job Whittaker!  

Matteo is adorable.  He let Javadhi down so gently.

Mel and Langdon remain my favourites.  

I think my favourite part of this show is that they are showing how everyone are professionals and how much is accomplished through quiet competence.  Yes, tempers are fraying, but the patient care is seeming to be thorough and delivered with compassion to both the patient and for the most part with each other.  I like that. 

[preeya]

40 minutes ago, AheadofStraight said:

We just know he's going to go down and they'll save his life.

Or not!

[jah1986]

Of course this is the episode where I finally figure out Dana's name. I could not catch my breath for a full 5 minutes after this episode. I knew after she broke up the fight in the waiting room that something was going to happen to her, but then I forgot so was shocked when she got assaulted. And everyone in the waiting room can thank that guy for making their wait longer. Because I know, from personal experience, that the ER will stop or slow down dramatically when they have to care for one of their own. Maybe he'll drop on the street but take so long to get help that he can't be saved when he's brought back.

Yay Whitaker with the rat, but I would have been gone for the day at the first sign of the rat. He was great with the patient too, I really loved how he just started peeling off his protective layers the more he talked to the guy.

That was a great way to teach about unconscious bias.

Mateo as a human Utah, that was hilarious. As was the patient watching the interaction, he caught it before Mateo.

Langdon is so good with Mel and so bad with Santos. Yes, she had it coming, but he lost all his high ground by his method. And Robby tried to do it right but messed up too, I think Langdon at least heard Robby. I'm sure Santos didn't learn a thing.

Can we keep Crosby?

[marceline]

If the show thinks they're redeeming Santos they are quite mistaken. Everything Langdon said was true. Humiliating her in front of colleagues was wrong but his complaints were completely valid. Meanwhile Langdon is so good with Mel. The way he knew picking out the gravel would soothe her shows he's been paying attention and I loved her reaction to that. After losing the little girls, she needed something simple to focus on,

I think one of the issues with Santos is that while we've seen her be a complete ass, Robby hasn't. That said I like how he said berating and humiliating colleagues wasn't conducive to learning. A LOT of people in the real world need to realize that.

I knew when Langdon told King to keep the lounge door closed so Crosby couldn't get out, I figured there was going to be some action with the rats. Crosby is now my second favorite TV dog. (The first is Betty on Will Trent.)

I like the growth in Whitaker's character. I wonder if we'll ever see the street team in action.

We saw in this episode that McKay has boundary issues so I assume she's the one who called the cops on the incel's mom.

Oh Dana. I'm not sure what I want for Doug Driscoll. Heart attack, arrest or both.

 

[Empress1]

1 hour ago, Infie said:

Matteo is adorable.  He let Javadhi down so gently.

He really is cute. He has great hair and he just seems like a sweet guy. And I loved the patient looking back and forth between them, amused. 

32 minutes ago, marceline said:

If the show thinks they're redeeming Santos they are quite mistaken. Everything Langdon said was true. Humiliating her in front of colleagues was wrong but his complaints were completely valid.

Yep. He shouldn’t have dressed her down publicly, but she needed the dressing down. She’s not good at her job (I hated when Mohan said she was; she isn’t) and she’s an asshole. 

I laughed when Dana shaded the shit out of my hometown - “this ain’t Philly!”

Hope the MAGA anti-masker gets arrested for assault and sued by the woman she punched.

32 minutes ago, jah1986 said:

Yay Whitaker with the rat, but I would have been gone for the day at the first sign of the rat.

I had to close my eyes. When Dr. Robby was like “Um, I need you to look at me and DO NOT STOP LOOKING AT ME” and then Dr. Collins saw it and BROKE THE FUCK OUT running away, I cracked up but I’d have done the same thing.

Is the festival with the OD’ed patient the same one Robby’s son went to?

I gasped when Dana got punched and was shocked that the episode was over. I want justice for Dana!

Edited Friday at 04:28 PM by Empress1

[Madding crowd]

Santos saying her experience as a festival goer was worth more than other doctors experience was just more of her hubris. Is she going to question every medication order? This is her first day, she should be listening and learning. I wouldn’t want her as my doctor because I wouldn’t trust her to control pain for me even if she is good with diagnoses. I felt bad for Dana getting hurt; people always take things out on nurses. 

[Morrigan2575]

2 hours ago, AheadofStraight said:

My jaw hit the floor when waiting room dude punched her in the face. WTAF!!! Punching a woman took it up a notch (not that punching a dude is better, either). He was even stupid enough to drop his paper with his info on it. We just know he's going to go down and they'll save his life

100% he will have a heart attack,  get brought back via ambulance and then the doctors will have to save his life because that's what they do. Afterwards the little 💩 will probably still be belligerent

[Empress1]

If that happens, here’s hoping he gets arrested once he’s out of the woods.

[SeanBug]

13 hours ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

Go Crosby. I had a terrier who caught a couple of mice in my house. She saw it, ran faster than I thought possible, grabbed those suckers by the neck and shook them dead. After that happened, she didn’t quite know what to do next. Amazing natural instinct.

Good article this past week in The NY Times about real doctors loving this show. Worth the read.

I had a Pomeranian catch a mouse in my apartment. There was blood everywhere it looked like a murder scene. I found a tail and a foot. It took over an hour to clean the blood off the carpet. My blonde and white Pom didn't have a drop on him. 

I went to Dr this morning after watching. My nurse practitioner has heard of it but doesn't have the energy to watch, as she knows what happens. She said ER personnel are attacked all the time.  The stuff about the masks she just shook her head. Like what can we do, we try to help people and they'd rather get sick. Just to prove us wrong. A friend is a med school grad and she had to explain to our coworker that not vaccinating a child with immuno deficiency is ok, but vaccinate the other five so they don't give her something.  I think this person believes Jesus will save them. No, God gave us the ability to be doctors and cure disease.  Jesus isn't waving his magic wand over your kids because you won't use your brain. 

I'm wondering if Santos is going to do something really bad to get back at Langdon.  Her 180 doesn't feel right. 

[fastiller]

#TeamCrosbyWhittaker!!  I liked that the dog was named after David and not Sidney.  

If I were Mohan I'd be most displeased w/ Santos giving me undue credit.  I have a feeling Mohan was too, but in the moment she was deer-in-the-headlights shocked into not being able to pipe up.  That and Langdon was spewing invective at the time.  I get both Langdon yelling at Santos and Robby yelling at Langdon.  Both were making valid points, but were doing so in the wrong way.  
Langdon really does need to take Santos aside (maybe w/ someone else in the room to witness things) and hash things out with her.

Javadi was funny w/ Matteo being Utah in human form (or however she put it).  A lot of Matteo's charm comes from his chill.

Did we ever find out why the cops were there?

[Morrigan2575]

1 hour ago, fastiller said:

Did we ever find out why the cops were there?

It seems like McKay called them. There's a scene of her starting at Robby/Teen Mom talking after the trafficked woman left. I'm thinking she was deep in her emotions (way too invested in "saving" that woman) that she called the cops behind Robby's back

[debraran]

5 hours ago, SeanBug said:

I had a Pomeranian catch a mouse in my apartment. There was blood everywhere it looked like a murder scene. I found a tail and a foot. It took over an hour to clean the blood off the carpet. My blonde and white Pom didn't have a drop on him. 

I went to Dr this morning after watching. My nurse practitioner has heard of it but doesn't have the energy to watch, as she knows what happens. She said ER personnel are attacked all the time.  The stuff about the masks she just shook her head. Like what can we do, we try to help people and they'd rather get sick. Just to prove us wrong. A friend is a med school grad and she had to explain to our coworker that not vaccinating a child with immuno deficiency is ok, but vaccinate the other five so they don't give her something.  I think this person believes Jesus will save them. No, God gave us the ability to be doctors and cure disease.  Jesus isn't waving his magic wand over your kids because you won't use your brain. 

I'm wondering if Santos is going to do something really bad to get back at Langdon.  Her 180 doesn't feel right. 

I worry about Santos too...I think she has a plan, maybe not in stone, but something. She is going to use his temper etc. I beginning not to like their interactions, it keeps boiling and then what? I don't think anyone is leaving the show but they are writing them, especially Santos with a lot of grey.

 

8 hours ago, jah1986 said:

Of course this is the episode where I finally figure out Dana's name. I could not catch my breath for a full 5 minutes after this episode. I knew after she broke up the fight in the waiting room that something was going to happen to her, but then I forgot so was shocked when she got assaulted. And everyone in the waiting room can thank that guy for making their wait longer. Because I know, from personal experience, that the ER will stop or slow down dramatically when they have to care for one of their own. Maybe he'll drop on the street but take so long to get help that he can't be saved when he's brought back.

Yay Whitaker with the rat, but I would have been gone for the day at the first sign of the rat. He was great with the patient too, I really loved how he just started peeling off his protective layers the more he talked to the guy.

That was a great way to teach about unconscious bias.

Mateo as a human Utah, that was hilarious. As was the patient watching the interaction, he caught it before Mateo.

Langdon is so good with Mel and so bad with Santos. Yes, she had it coming, but he lost all his high ground by his method. And Robby tried to do it right but messed up too, I think Langdon at least heard Robby. I'm sure Santos didn't learn a thing.

Can we keep Crosby?

I see a lot of unconscious bias working in medical field for decades, weight, color, insurance...I get really angry at it all and started to say something when I'd not in the past. It's sad still today, people are not treated the same or given the same treatments because of race or where they came from or how they look.

I don't know why with all the great scenes and stories, I can't stop thinking about the abused woman and her "boss". She is not a child, but still so vulnerable. It bothers me that she doesn't have a phone and every number even if she gets one, is recorded. Just taking the pen to me, says "You're right"  Why can't an undercover police officer investigate a little bit. My husband was a detective for years and you can't arrest or question without reason but you can always look into something, make some inquires.

Edited Saturday at 12:11 AM by debraran

[juno]

1 hour ago, debraran said:

I worry about Santos too...I think she has a plan, maybe not in stone, but something. She is going to use his temper etc. I beginning not to like their interactions, it keeps boiling and then what? I don't think anyone is leaving the show but they are writing them, especially Santos with a lot of grey.

I agree with this. Every other character seems to be connected to each other and the patients, whereas they have this one character consistently stirring up trouble by accusations, making side remarks, complaining and creating havoc in this workplace. For senior members of the team even listening to a first day staff it would cause major issues.

At a minimum she should be removed from the area and probably sent home and then would have to have a meeting with her supervisors. Expectations would be then given to her again and if they aren't followed she would lose her job/slot.

[sharifa70]

My human Utah worked in my building, had no idea I existed other than as a semi-familiar face in the elevator, and was the most beautiful man I have ever seen in person. I am a sane, fairly intelligent person, but every time I was in his presence I completely forgot how to sentence. Hell, one time as a colleague and I walked back to our building from coffee, I happened to spot Utah from a block away, and I literally broke out into giggles in the middle of a word. Y’all, I was 40 freaking years old!

I feel you, Dr Javadi….

[statsgirl]

The cops were talking to the mom of the incel teen. Could be McKay called them as she was the most concerned about the girls who could be attacked.

McKay "It was a quick chair exam and there was minimal tenderness." I didn't think that she should wait for 8 hours for a pelvic exam."   Another point that the hospital needs to hire more staff, and move patients upstairs faster.

After all the stuff the doctors and nurses have to handle, it's hard to believe that they are that scared of rats.

23 hours ago, bybrandy said:

I worry they are trying to turn me around on Santos but I’m doubling down her move this episode was to gain allies in her vendetta against Langdon. Maybe even going so far as to cry foul a few hours for now about Langdon crediting the other doc for her brilliant save because he is so anti Santos.

My initial thought was that Santos did it deliberately to get Langdon to yell at her so that she could use it against him when she takes him down later. But I don't know if she's that smart.

Does Santos have something against Langdon beyond the mistakes she made in his presence?  I really hope that it's not that he misdiagnosed someone she was fond of or related to.

22 hours ago, Raachel2008 said:

“Sometimes experience counts for something” - except when these are your superiors, right? Shut up, Santos go own your mistakes that almost caused a patient’s death.

It was a stupid thing to say because experience is evidence-based medicine.

I am not condoning what the angry man did, hitting Dada. But I do understand his frustration, worried that he may be having a heart attack and sitting for hours in the waiting room watching others go in to get treated and still sitting waiting himse.f

[xls]

22 hours ago, Raachel2008 said:

The woman who lost her tooth should have reported the non mask mom. Langdon “do you want masks in the OR?” was perfect. I hope toothless woman sues, that dental work is going to cost a lot to look perfect.

Yeah, we always have a cop around so, she would have been asked if she wanted to press charges. 

This show's got the waiting room patient's attitudes pretty accurate though. lol

[Irlandesa]

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

It was a stupid thing to say because experience is evidence-based medicine.

Thank you!  That was the first thing I thought of when she said that line.

And it's hilarious because she's such a hypocrite.  I hope the show knows she is. 

[circumvent]

13 hours ago, debraran said:

I can't stop thinking about the abused woman and her "boss". She is not a child, but still so vulnerable.

The power of manipulation. The pimp was pregnant. I think we will her back. In this case, I will not be bothered if they throw in a twist that is not reality based but that takes the woman down.

Langdon acted like a child. Robby is pretty much inviting him to stay after his residency ends, and he does that. It doesn't matter if Santos is what she is, what he did crossed a line and if things were fair she would be able to report him. But of course, they painted her as "taking the high ground" which annoys me. Initially I thought the problem was the acting, no nuance, but now I don't know. The writing wasn't great, sorry Noah Wyle.

Also about the writing, very little about Collins (maybe) miscarriage. I know it is only one hour later but I was hoping to see more of a reaction consistent with the situation. I mean, when she ran away because of the rat, maybe having her flinch a little, so that the story is consistent. 

The silent heart attack guy has so much energy , he could have faked something in the waiting room instead of going off on a nurse. I don't know if this kind of assault actually happens/is common but it does show, again, the problems with a system where nobody is happy with the service and a nurse taking a break is seen as laziness. 

 

Edited Saturday at 01:33 PM by circumvent
grammar

[debraran]

2 hours ago, circumvent said:

The power of manipulation. The pimp was pregnant. I think we will her back. In this case, I will not be bothered if they throw in a twist that is not reality based but that takes the woman down.

Langdon acted like a child. Robby is pretty much inviting him to stay after his residency ends, and he does that. It doesn't matter if Santos is what she is, what he did crossed a line and if things were fair she would be able to report him. But of course, they painted her as "taking the high ground" which annoys me. Initially I thought the problem was the acting, no nuance, but now I don't know. The writing wasn't great, sorry Noah Wyle.

Also about the writing, very little about Collins (maybe) miscarriage. I know it is only one hour later but I was hoping to see more of a reaction consistent with the situation. I mean, when she ran away because of the rat, maybe having her flinch a little, so that the story is consistent. 

The silent heart attack guy has so much energy , he could have faked something in the waiting room instead of going off on a nurse. I don't know if this kind of assault actually happens/is common but it does show, again, the problems with a system where nobody is happy with the service and a nurse taking a break is seeing as laziness. 

 

There is a lot of violence, just in the news few weeks ago a guy broke every bone in a nurses face while shouting racial insults. Even in medical offices, patients can get testy but we have more protection.

For whatever reason Santos faked being benevolent it will come out later, she didn't take the blame for the reasons she said, not entirely.

I think they wanted the guy to come back and see the nurse he hit, just TV twists they do a lot, but it still has impact. In ER I think it was a nazi they had to help live while he hated some of the docs that were working on him.

[Ely]

So if I understand correctly, Santos took the blame to make Langdon yell at her and to later play the bullied victim infront of Mohan? Again, this seems so extreme. Why would she go to such lengths, especially when she's been there for only a few hours?

I adored that little scene with Landgon and Mel and how he knew exactly how to get her back on track. He is a good teacher, he understands people well. He just neeeds to recognize when his own buttons are being pushed and not to feed the troll. Him yelling at Santos was not ok, which also seemed so extreme. I don't know, is it the writing or are we missing pieces in between?  

It's also weird that Robby doesn't even ask Langdon why he lost it like that. Yelling is non-negotiable, but there are always two sides of the story and since he and Langdon have been working together for a while he should know that something is going on.

Poor Dana. You cannot help but love her and I really don't want to see her getting punched by heartattack guy. I also feel so sorry for Collins.

Speaking of Collins. I liked her exchange with McKay and how they both handled the question of McKay being biased. it was really well done.

Edited Saturday at 02:21 PM by Ely

[marceline]

36 minutes ago, Ely said:

So if I understand correctly, Santos took the blame to make Langdon yell at her and to later play the bullied victim in front of Mohan?

No what really happened is she threw Mohan under the bus but it didn’t work and Langdon tore her a new one anyway. Then she tried to play it off as a benevolent gesture.

[snarts]

As someone who loved ER (watching reruns this morning) I am really enjoying how much brighter & well-lit this show is. I can also hear everyone clearly too! My old lady eyes & ears are happy.

Not sure what Santos' endgame is with Langdon. I hated the way he lost his shit but everything he said about her was true.

I still don't understand how Santos' inability to take direction & follow the rules didn't derail her in med school/previous internships. She's a first year resident on her very first day & she's blatantly ignoring her senior resident's directions?  OK. I get where Robby was coming from but I wish he'd backed Langdon's judgement a bit more. 

43 minutes ago, Ely said:

Speaking of Collins. I liked her exchange with McKay and how they both handled the question of McKay being biased. it was really well done.

#same. She pointed it out in a way that wasn't accusatory & it will likely make McKay think about it with future patients. 

Poor Nurse Dana. It was only a matter of time before before heart attack guy lost it. See, that's why you shouldn't smoke :)

 

Edited Saturday at 02:56 PM by snarts

[Ely]

1 hour ago, marceline said:

No what really happened is she threw Mohan under the bus but it didn’t work and Langdon tore her a new one anyway. Then she tried to play it off as a benevolent gesture.

Oooh, this is even more effed up. And Mohan ate it right up. I still see the possibility of Santos trying to bait Langdon but your explanation definitely fits as well. Either way, Santos comes out of this as manipulative and mean as we've known her for the last few hours.

[iMonrey]

On 2/28/2025 at 9:12 AM, AheadofStraight said:

Not much to add but just had to say I loved the hypocrisy of not believing in masks yet wanting the medical providers to wear them. 🔥

I thought they handled this just right (and of course it was the ideal venue for it). Whenever someone says masks don't do anything, I always counter with "well they must do something otherwise surgeons wouldn't be wearing them in the operating room." I'd go so far as to say it's fair to rate their efficacy but they can't be entirely useless.

21 hours ago, fastiller said:

Did we ever find out why the cops were there?

Per the preview at the end of this episode 

Spoiler

they were called about the potential school shooter.

People dying, bleeding out and potentially trafficked left and right on this show and my biggest concern was for the dog. But that's just me.

[Morrigan2575]

3 hours ago, marceline said:

No what really happened is she threw Mohan under the bus but it didn’t work and Langdon tore her a new one anyway. Then she tried to play it off as a benevolent gesture.

You know, I didn't think of it like that but, you're right. Langdon came in annoyed why didn't you call me I was right across the hall. She then goes it was Mohan's call I wanted to keep pushing Ativan (which is what Robby/Langdon said to do). So it wasn't so much as beneficial act of giving Mohan credit for the save but a way to avoid getting yelled at again for doing something without running it past a Sr Resident/Attending.

1 hour ago, iMonrey said:

People dying, bleeding out and potentially trafficked left and right on this show and my biggest concern was for the dog. But that's just me

Not just you. I got so worried when Crosby caught the rat. I was like oh no, Rabies! LOL

[circumvent]

4 hours ago, marceline said:

No what really happened is she threw Mohan under the bus but it didn’t work and Langdon tore her a new one anyway. Then she tried to play it off as a benevolent gesture.

That's not how I saw it. I think she wanted to play nice with Mohan and, being defiant, didn't care about facing Langdon - like, he already hates her, why not help the other doctor a bit. She also didn't expect Langdon to be such a jerk, so it shocked her. I guess this interaction is a set up for a future scene. It is part of this relationship where someone will be redeemed, someone will learn a lesson, maybe a patient will die before so they both can take the heat. A bit trope-y but that's TV

[sadie]

I love this show and loved this episode, it went by too quickly. I’m currently rewatching ER in whole (for the third time), and this show just gives me all the feels and I’ve had a crush on Dr. John Carter for the last 25 years. Still do.
 

My only pet peeve was I don’t know a single hospital anymore that doesn’t have a smoke free campus so Dana smoking outside the ER just seemed about 20 years off. The dog catching the rat was just so needed. Good boy! 

[Notabug]

7 hours ago, debraran said:

There is a lot of violence, just in the news few weeks ago a guy broke every bone in a nurses face while shouting racial insults. Even in medical offices, patients can get testy but we have more protection.

The hospital system where I work has signs posted at all entrances, both inpatient and outpatient facilities, with a notice that threats, foul language, any violent behavior towards the staff would result in security personnel immediately removing that person from the building and charges will be pressed, if applicable.  You would be amazed how some people behave.

Many years ago, I had to get a restraining order against a patient's husband who threatened my life and my staff.  Why? Because his wife was 6 months pregnant and he wanted an absolute guarantee that I, and only I, would deliver their baby, no matter what, when the time came.  Obviously, I couldn't promise that and he went ballistic, throwing chairs in the waiting room and threatening to kill me if I didn't promise.  He obviously had mental health issues, but I wasn't taking any chances.  He initially violated the order, not knowing that I'd delivered the kids of many officers of the local police department.  One of them was a detective who paid the guy and his wife a personal visit and I never heard from him again.

Edited Saturday at 08:10 PM by Notabug

[Arynm]

Aren't there 3 rats? We might get to see Crosby in action again I hope.

The guy who punched Dana will be back for sure. There are a lot of stories that I hope we get endings to, I don't like loose ends.

[juno]

38 minutes ago, Arynm said:

Aren't there 3 rats? We might get to see Crosby in action again I hope.

The guy who punched Dana will be back for sure. There are a lot of stories that I hope we get endings to, I don't like loose ends.

My guess is the cops pick him up and he has a heart attack during the ride back. Forcing them to take him to the Pitt.

[JeanJean]

12 hours ago, debraran said:

I think they wanted the guy to come back and see the nurse he hit, just TV twists they do a lot, but it still has impact. In ER I think it was a nazi they had to help live while he hated some of the docs that were working on him.

Was it Sandra Oh'S character and she was Jewish on one parent's side plus of Asian heritage?

[statsgirl]

11 hours ago, snarts said:

Not sure what Santos' endgame is with Langdon. I hated the way he lost his shit but everything he said about her was true

Langdon was affected by the death of the little girl. The first thing he did when he had a chance was call home and speak to his young son.

He caught that Mel was upset by the death even though she denied it. I wouldn't be surprised it the little girl's death contributed to Langdon blowing up, he'd just had enough of the crap.

[Cheyanne11]

On 2/28/2025 at 8:25 AM, Empress1 said:

On 2/28/2025 at 7:27 AM, Infie said:

Matteo is adorable.  He let Javadhi down so gently.

He really is cute. He has great hair and he just seems like a sweet guy. And I loved the patient looking back and forth between them, amused. 

"I feel like I'm watching a rom-com" was a great line.

Go Crosby!  

Loved Mel getting excited at the prospect of removing 1,000 pieces of gravel from the guy's road rash.  

 

[txhorns79]

7 hours ago, sadie said:

My only pet peeve was I don’t know a single hospital anymore that doesn’t have a smoke free campus so Dana smoking outside the ER just seemed about 20 years off.

At least in Philadelphia, I know of at least one hospital that will not even hire tobacco users anymore.  Though Dana said she had been at the Pitt for 30 years, so she would be grandfathered in if they had that policy.    

1 hour ago, JeanJean said:

Was it Sandra Oh'S character and she was Jewish on one parent's side plus of Asian heritage?

Sandra Oh wasn't on ER, but I think both ER and Grey's Anatomy did variations of that storyline. 

[JeanJean]

1 hour ago, txhorns79 said:

At least in Philadelphia, I know of at least one hospital that will not even hire tobacco users anymore.  Though Dana said she had been at the Pitt for 30 years, so she would be grandfathered in if they had that policy.    

Sandra Oh wasn't on ER, but I think both ER and Grey's Anatomy did variations of that storyline. 

Whups.

[xls]

14 hours ago, Notabug said:

The hospital system where I work has signs posted at all entrances, both inpatient and outpatient facilities, with a notice that threats, foul language, any violent behavior towards the staff would result in security personnel immediately removing that person from the building and charges will be pressed, if applicable.  You would be amazed how some people behave.

We have those too

[iMonrey]

21 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Not just you. I got so worried when Crosby caught the rat. I was like oh no, Rabies! LOL

I was worried he was going to run out the door and get lost or get run over.

I get that Langdon was in the wrong for bawling out Santos in front of everyone, but I also think Dr. Robby was projecting just a bit because of his flashbacks to his own mentor. I would have liked to see Langdon apologize but also emphasize that Santos is trouble and keeps defying orders over and over again, which is why he finally blew his top.

[Notabug]

17 hours ago, JeanJean said:

Was it Sandra Oh'S character and she was Jewish on one parent's side plus of Asian heritage?

On ER, an avowed white supremacist, covered in tattoos including swastikas, was brought in after being injured whilre committing a hate crime. I believe it was Eric LaSalle’s character, Peter Benton, who saved the guys life.

16 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

At least in Philadelphia, I know of at least one hospital that will not even hire tobacco users anymore.  Though Dana said she had been at the Pitt for 30 years, so she would be grandfathered in if they had that policy.    

Sandra Oh wasn't on ER, but I think both ER and Grey's Anatomy did variations of that storyline. 

The hospital system where I work gives new hires 90 days and provides support groups, one on one counseling and medication. At 90 days, they do a urine test and are immediately dismissed if it is positive for nicotine metabolites.  They did grandfather in hundreds, maybe thousands, when the policy was implemented 15-20 years ago.

[preeya]

There's a good article here re: the attack and its aftermath: 

https://tvline.com/interviews/the-pitt-episode-9-noah-wyle-interview-nurse-dana-evans-attacked-explained-1235413160/