S18.E16: One on One: Part 2

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Air Date: December 3, 2023

[TexasTiffany]

Well, Meri. Apparently, you've had years and years and years to tell that story about the ring. It's not like it's a new happening. Don't expect me to be against Christine because she mentioned it.  

Kody melted down your marriage years ago. I wish you hadn't wasted all these years when you could have made a good life and happy memories with someone else.

 

[General Days]

Some people in the live chat were still bored by this episode, and I get that. At this point the format itself (tease, commercial, recap, fulfill tease, tease next thing, commercial, recap, fulfill tease, etc.) is an enjoyment killer.

That said, I enjoyed this episode. I think we covered some new ground.

 

1 minute ago, TexasTiffany said:

Well, Meri. Apparently, you've had years and years and years to tell that story about the ring. It's not like it's a new happening. Don't expect me to be against Christine because she mentioned it.  

Kody melted down your marriage years ago. I wish you hadn't wasted all these years when you could have made a good life and happy memories with someone else.

 

 

I felt terrible for Meri about the whole melted-down ring thing. She was hurt and angry in the couch segment, but what really got me is that I could almost feel her humiliation.

That whole story is humiliating in and of itself, but then she likely knows the catfish already made it public (I didn't know that until the weekend, but Meri must have, right?).

Meri may have had years to tell it, but I don't think she wanted it told, and I don't blame her. I think it's a shame Christine told it, and I think Janelle is full of shit about what was done with it, but I can't remember if she mentioned that in this episode, so I'll leave it there.

I think Christine is something of a mean girl, but I don't actually think she was trying to be a mean girl is sharing that. I think the whole ring dance with Robyn, Kody, and (against her will) Meri, was just incredible to Christine, and that's why she talked.

She shouldn't have told the story, but I don't think Christine was trying to be hurtful in that instance.

[LotusFlower]

Meri’s “oh my voice will be heard” is all about the book she’s writing.  That’s why she was so mad to hear Christine revealed the melting ring story - Christine beat her to it!  
I can’t stand that this family films a reality show to supposedly lift the veil of polygamy (and greatly benefits from it), and yet they have hidden SO much from viewers. No one more so than Meri.  Asshole Kidney melted his wedding ring 7 or 8 years ago, which of course devastated her, but they all decide to hide it?!!

[General Days]

8 hours ago, LotusFlower said:

Meri’s “oh my voice will be heard” is all about the book she’s writing.  That’s why she was so mad to hear Christine revealed the melting ring story - Christine beat her to it!  
I can’t stand that this family films a reality show to supposedly lift the veil of polygamy (and greatly benefits from it), and yet they have hidden SO much from viewers. No one more so than Meri.  Asshole Kidney melted his wedding ring 7 or 8 years ago, which of course devastated her, but they all decide to hide it?!!

Christine and Meri said he melted it when he was courting Robyn. Meri added that it was seven years prior to the catfish, not seven years ago. 

It's an old, painful story from Meri's humiliating marriage. Why would they have told it? (It probably pre-dates the series.)

I get why Christine brought it up here (she shouldn't have, but I get it), but not telling every story that ever happened isn't "hiding" it, and * telling someone else's humiliating story from their marriage doesn't make Christine some brave truth teller.

Edited December 4, 2023 by General Days
* removed extraneous word (a "not" before "telling someone else's humiliating story...") which changed the intended meaning

[Adeejay]

Meri said that she and Kody never had a conversation about the state of their relationship.  However, his behavior towards her over the years clearly spoke volumes. When he melted down his wedding ring, that was a sign.  The fact that they hadn’t been intimate in over a decade and he rebuffed her when she tried to kiss him were also signs.  I believe she finally came to her senses when he told a national television audience that there was no hope for them and that he wishes she would leave.

[albarino]

I know I don't understand the significance of the ring story.  Meri was very hurt with Christine sharing it and Christine seems to know she she was overstepping her bounds.  I don't think I quite get all of it.

That said, Christine seems naive but she really is, no?  She has never really had to account for herself in a professional manner and it shows.  My request to her is that she show some maturity.  I get why she is happy (and she should be) but a little grace would look really good for her right now.

We don't care about Kody, but be nice to Meri and we don't go after you for all of the Medicaid fraud you've committed, deal?

 

 

[LotusFlower]

1 minute ago, General Days said:

It's an old, painful story from her humiliating marriage. Why would they have told it. I get why Christine brought it up here (she shouldn't have, but I get it), but not telling every story that ever happened isn't "hiding" it, and not telling someone else's humiliating story from their marriage doesn't make Christine some brave truth teller.

Sorry, I disagree.  Why would they have told it?  Because they signed up to do a reality show to reveal a supposedly authentic and close look at an extremely secretive and veiled lifestyle.  Kidney melting the ring (and keeping the diamonds!!) is of course humiliating, but so is a husband rotating houses and having sex with your sister wives, but that’s the story they signed up to tell.  Meri feeling angry or humiliated is undoubtedly what led to her seeking companionship elsewhere, and that would have made for a hugely compelling storyline, if she (and they) were honest about it.  But their goal was always to protect Kody and present a big, happy polygamous family to the world, so they lied about so, so much.  

[UsernameFatigue]

I found the whole ring story fascinating. I am surprised that after Kody brought other wives into the family, he would still wear a wedding ring given to him by Meri. I guess that was to assert that Meri was the only legal wife? 

I remember the big deal they made about the ring that the wives gave Kody, and they all had matching rings as well IIRC? 

What boggles my mind is that when Kody brought Robyn into the family, Kody divorced Meri to marry Robyn so, supposedly, he could adopt her kids. As I recall, this whole storyline was sold to the audience as it being Meri's idea.  But now knowing that Kody told Meri even before he and Robyn married that he wanted to be free of her, Meri had to know he wanted to marry Robyn in part because he wanted a legal divorce from Meri. I have to give Meri credit for putting up a good front all those years. Mind you, she would have been too embarrassed to do otherwise. 

Robyn is wearing a very pretty ring on her ring finger. Is that new, or has she worn it since she married Kody? I only remember all the wives having the matching rings which, understandably, no one wears any longer. I just don't remember seeing Robyn's ring before.

And Robyn, everyone understands Kody speak. Even us, the viewers. He isn't complicated, and he isn't deep.  No interpreter needed. 

Edited December 4, 2023 by UsernameFatigue

[endure]

1 hour ago, TexasTiffany said:

Well, Meri. Apparently, you've had years and years and years to tell that story about the ring. It's not like it's a new happening. Don't expect me to be against Christine because she mentioned it.  

Kody melted down your marriage years ago. I wish you hadn't wasted all these years when you could have made a good life and happy memories with someone else.

 

Misdirected anger on Meri’s part for sure because that happened years ago and obviouly still upsets her a ton.  I guess she wanted to tell that story herself in her book.

Edited December 4, 2023 by endure

[endure]

1 hour ago, LotusFlower said:

Meri’s “oh my voice will be heard” is all about the book she’s writing.  That’s why she was so mad to hear Christine revealed the melting ring story - Christine beat her to it!  
I can’t stand that this family films a reality show to supposedly lift the veil of polygamy (and greatly benefits from it), and yet they have hidden SO much from viewers. No one more so than Meri.  Asshole Kidney melted his wedding ring 7 or 8 years ago, which of course devastated her, but they all decide to hide it?!!

Absolutely agree and I just said the same thing, sort of.  I also noticed tonight on the replay of the picnic table scene that Crybrows has the same stallion ring as Kidney only in all gold!

[endure]

I have always doubted the story about Meri offering to divorce Kody so he could marry Robyn and in turn legally adopt her children.  Maybe Christine or someone can narrate that story with a different truth.  

[endure]

38 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I found the whole ring story fascinating. I am surprised that after Kody brought other wives into the family, he would still wear a wedding ring given to him by Meri. I guess that was to assert that Meri was the only legal wife? 

I remember the big deal they made about the ring that the wives gave Kody, and they all had matching rings as well IIRC? 

What boggles my mind is that when Kody brought Robyn into the family, Kody divorced Meri to marry Robyn so, supposedly, he could adopt her kids. As I recall, this whole storyline was sold to the audience as it being Meri's idea.  But now knowing that Kody told Meri even before he and Robyn married that he wanted to be free of her, Meri had to know he wanted to marry Robyn in part because he wanted a legal divorce from Meri. I have to give Meri credit for putting up a good front all those years. Mind you, she would have been too embarrassed to do otherwise. 

Robyn is wearing a very pretty ring on her ring finger. Is that new, or has she worn it since she married Kody? I only remember all the wives having the matching rings which, understandably, no one wears any longer. I just don't remember seeing Robyn's ring before.

And Robyn, everyone understands Kody speak. Even us, the viewers. He isn't complicated, and he isn't deep.  No interpreter needed. 

Lol i just commented on some same points, i should have read all the comments first.  Honestly for the life of me I do not understand or respect Meri, even when I try to put it into her supposed religious commitment, nothing adds up.  And I can see why so many in the family have issues with her, she is off the wall in so many aspects, she would be a difficult person to connect with.

[Mojo213]

Christine is my favorite. She tells it like it is and she doesn't pretend for the sake of anything. If you really watch the show you can see she is all about the kids in the family. Mary is a ticking time bomb and has been since the beginning. I feel for her in that she was punished and abandoned for the catfish scandal by Kidney. I do not see how he can not see how he shoved her into someone else's arms and the parallels of how he wrote her off for speaking to someone else when she watched him on the daily with someone he loved and did NOTHING to hide his over the top love for Crybrows. Janelle leaving after Christine did is almost laughable bc it feels like she has never had an original thought in her life. I wish she would be candid for once! I like her and I want to see her blossom away from the toxic relationships she was in. i feel bad for Crybrows kids bc it did look like they got dumped by the family and that has to suck. I wonder if their marriage will survive to one another? My heart goes out to the children the absolute most. If Kidney could lose a tenth of that sickeningly gross ego he has the family would've at least stood a chance of making it. Just as a side note: No alpha male in the history of alpha males has EVER called himself an alpha male. If those words slip out of your stupid mouth then by default you are 100% beta...or in his cause Zeta.

[mythoughtis]

The ring was a big surprise to me this week. First I was mad at Christine for disclosing it, but then I found out that the story has been out on the internet as told by the catfish. 
Then I was mad at Kody due to melting it down and only telling Meri when she asked about it. - I still am mad at him. 

I’’m also mad at all five of them.  This show has been a lie from the beginning.   Supposedly Kody loved all his wives, and these marriages were happy.  Now we find out that Kody didn’t consider himself married to Meri when the show started( melting the ring without her knowledge tells us that). 
 

Every scene that has Meri in it  or is about Meri needs to be reconsidered. Her actions and comments mean different things than we thought.  She had more reasons for all her tears than we knew. 
 

I’m particularly mad about Kody asking about IVF for Meri at Trueky’s birth and Robyn offering to be a surrogate after Sol’s birth.  How did they expect Meri to react knowing Kody  ‘didn’t want  her to have any claim on him’? 

Edited December 4, 2023 by mythoughtis

[zenme]

I believed then and now that Kody and Robyn gaslit Meri into believing she wanted the divorce because it was ONLY so Kody could adopt the kids. 

[MsMalin]

I think part of the reason Meri was upset is because of Christine's attitude when telling the story. She was giddy and laughing about it. I really don't like this side of Christine.

This sure has a been a lesson about being brainwashed in a cult to believe you must stay in a miserable.marriage throughout eternity.

Edited December 4, 2023 by MsMalin

[ginger90]

In the live chat someone mentioned Christine filing bankruptcy. It was stated it was in 2012. It was actually in 2010. 
That’s all for now. I need to wake up! 🤣🤣

[laurakaye]

8 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

And Robyn, everyone understands Kody speak. Even us, the viewers. He isn't complicated, and he isn't deep.  No interpreter needed. 

For the love..."Kody speak?"  Please.  Unless they're talking about some long-forgotten caveman dialect, there's no need.  You just have to be familiar with hurtful passive-aggressive BS and you're on your way.

My favorite part of this tell-all segment was Janelle letting us know that this was exactly how Robyn managed to insert herself into everyone else's business with Kody - because Robyn can translate for the other poor, stupid OG wives and kids.  When Janelle said "we've been married to him longer than Robyn, we can handle talking to him without her help," I laughed.  So that particular jig is up, Robyn.  Best wishes on whatever nonsense to try to pull next. 

Edited December 4, 2023 by laurakaye

[laurakaye]

1 hour ago, MsMalin said:

I think part of the reason Meri was upset is because of Christine's attitude when telling the story. She was giddy and laughing about it. I really don't like this side of Christine.

Neither do I.  I have to remember that she was 100% the basement wife for years in every sense of the word.  She was ignored by Kody, and he seemed to delight in also ignoring the kids they had together.  She did everything she thought she needed to do to gain his favor, and it took her decades to truly realize that he was never going to love her.  So her being not only the first wife to leave but the first to find real love (if we are to believe her gushing over David), then I can understand the giddiness.  But she also has to remember to reel it in a little bit when talking about things that are still painful for other members of the family.  Just because she found happiness doesn't mean she can spill all the tea all the time.  I imagine she's even a lot to take for Janelle, but Janelle seems to be kind of the tagalong friend and is probably willing to put up with Mrs. Wooley's breathless exclamations about how great life is away from Kody.  The others have their own journeys - Christine should remember that.

I also found it very interesting how the OG 3 all talked about Kody's conditions in return for his love.  They all stated that no matter what they did for him, it wasn't enough.  For all three to be on the same side of that story was pretty cool.  I think for so long, there was always a bottom wife on the Kody Ranking System, and it changed from time to time (but of course, it was never Robyn).  I think they took a secret glee when they knew that there was a wife Kody disliked more, and they tried to sabotage each other for decades.  So it's interesting that now, all of them agree that Kody was just playing a game of "pretend love" with them and he's no longer worth their efforts.

[RazzleberryPie]

Christine spoiled a juicy part of Meri’s upcoming book. She did that in purpose. Meri is a piece of work, but that was vile of Christine. She can say she did it to say how bad Kody was, but it was also a dig at Meri. 

[Gramto6]

What I would like to see in one of the last two Tell Nothings is a couch Tell All with the adult kids together (and any minors that wanted to) talk about what it was like growing up in that fambly.  Maybe spilling some tea about the parenting, the constant moving, and the favoritisms. I think that would tell more of the story as most have no vested interest in the show staying on the air. Of course it would be from each of their own perspectives, but I think more truths would emerge there than from the "parents" of the fambly.

[Yeah No]

I'm only 10 minutes in and I'm already posting, LOL.  First of all, what did I say about Janelle, LOL?  She doesn't talk about "such things" but yeah, she was hot for Kody.

And he is FOS about not being in love with Meri.  The asshole doesn't realize or want to realize that young love is different from older love.  You can't equate the two.  Was he infatuated with Meri?  For sure, but he was also "in love" with her.  The look on his face in those early photos gives him away.  The bastard is rewriting history the same way he edited that family photo of Robyn's kids to put his face in it.   It's all a fiction just to serve his massive ego and justify what he's done and not done.  He's not man enough to admit that he was in love with Meri but then fell out of love with her.  In his demented mind he thinks that if he did admit that it would put more of the blame on him for breaking his commitment to their relationship.  He would feel like if he admitted he was ever in love with her he owed her and his relationship with her more than he gave it.  He thinks saying he was never in love with her is a way of getting around that responsibility.  Too bad nobody is buying it, asshole.

[endure]

3 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

I'm only 10 minutes in and I'm already posting, LOL.  First of all, what did I say about Janelle, LOL?  She doesn't talk about "such things" but yeah, she was hot for Kody.

And he is FOS about not being in love with Meri.  The asshole doesn't realize or want to realize that young love is different from older love.  You can't equate the two.  Was he infatuated with Meri?  For sure, but he was also "in love" with her.  The look on his face in those early photos gives him away.  The bastard is rewriting history the same way he edited that family photo of Robyn's kids to put his face in it.   It's all a fiction just to serve his massive ego and justify what he's done and not done.  He's not man enough to admit that he was in love with Meri but then fell out of love with her.  In his demented mind he thinks that if he did admit that it would put more of the blame on him for breaking his commitment to their relationship.  He would feel like if he admitted he was ever in love with her he owed her and his relationship with her more than he gave it.  He thinks saying he was never in love with her is a way of getting around that responsibility.  Too bad nobody is buying it, asshole.

Kody has typical behaviour of a narcissist and both Kody and Robyn are desperate to keep the show going…… as are others.  It’s getting tiresome  but like a trainwreck.

[Granny58]

10 hours ago, Adeejay said:

Meri said that she and Kody never had a conversation about the state of their relationship.  However, his behavior towards her over the years clearly spoke volumes. When he melted down his wedding ring, that was a sign.

to ordinary monogamists it's a sign.  However, if you're sharing your husband you could talk yourself into believing it's more about sharing him rather than you having a "claim" on him.  But this was enlightening.  I've always been on Meri's side about the catfishing because it was so obvious she was emotionally neglected FOR YEARS.  Add the knife to the kidney of the ring melting.  AND trying to shove your feelings of jealousy and abandonment down because of The Principle.  It's frankly shocking that she didn't do anything more drastic.  

[Granny58]

26 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

The asshole doesn't realize or want to realize that young love is different from older love. 

and that's exactly why for religious types there is a sacred covenant.  What good is a covenant if you can break it just because you're no longer "in love?"  Do you love (or even like) the person?  are you friends?  Then stick it out.  

[Roslyn]

3 hours ago, MsMalin said:

I think part of the reason Meri was upset is because of Christine's attitude when telling the story. She was giddy and laughing about it. I really don't like this side of Christine.

I watched the episode last night and again this morning, but with tea instead of sangria... 😉

I think this Christine is just Christine. I now suspect that she has been reigned in from the beginning by Kody's demands on what to put out publicly. Now that she faces no punishment from Kody for being "herself" on camera, the gloves are off. I also think she told the story to point out a horrible thing Kody did...not to purposely humiliate Meri. Though if there were any threads left between Christine and Meri...they are long gone.

However... I also feel like Christine is on a high from the attention. She is an animated person to begin with...and she is riding that high.

[Yeah No]

22 minutes ago, Granny58 said:

to ordinary monogamists it's a sign.  However, if you're sharing your husband you could talk yourself into believing it's more about sharing him rather than you having a "claim" on him.  But this was enlightening.  I've always been on Meri's side about the catfishing because it was so obvious she was emotionally neglected FOR YEARS.  Add the knife to the kidney of the ring melting.  AND trying to shove your feelings of jealousy and abandonment down because of The Principle.  It's frankly shocking that she didn't do anything more drastic.  

I've always been on Meri's side re: the catfishing and her divorce from Kody.  I knew that her behavior had to come out of a real and total rejection from him and years of suffering and feeling trapped in a situation she couldn't find a way out of.  I am just boggling over the fact that the ring melting happened 7 years before THAT, supposedly.  I'm not sure I can really believe that, because if that's not a clear sign that it's OVER I don't know what is, and I don't care what kind of religious doublespeak gobbeldygook logic she was being fed.  But if so, it makes what she did even more understandable and deserving of compassion.  My only question is why she stuck around in that kind of soul-crushing situation.  I don't think I could ever do that to myself.  I'd be running away from that so fast and so far and wouldn't care about the consequences.  I still have to wonder how much money was in it for her to stay in that situation.  I don't believe it was all because Robyn couldn't let her go and kept reeling her back in.  Was it misplaced guilt Meri had over what happened in her relationship with Kody that kept her determined to honor a one-sided commitment with no hope?  Or was she being held back because she was afraid of losing money, from either the show or other family entanglements?   Or was it a bit of both?  

[Shelbie]

I wish Suki had high-fixed Meri when she said “ it was a knife to the kidney “. I laughed out loud.

[LotusFlower]

30 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

My only question is why she stuck around in that kind of soul-crushing situation.

The show.  I think the draw and the perks of tv stardom - the attention, the fame, the money, can’t be underestimated.  

[laurakaye]

33 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

The show.  I think the draw and the perks of tv stardom - the attention, the fame, the money, can’t be underestimated.  

Not to mention she banks on her "fame" as her means of making a living selling leggings.  A quick glance at her IG comments shows that she has a pretty loyal fanbase.

[MsMalin]

Good God, take the ring off but why melt it? How much $ would that even fetch? 

[Gramto6]

6 minutes ago, MsMalin said:

Good God, take the ring off but why melt it? How much $ would that even fetch? 

I don't think it was done for monetary purposes. It was done to hurt Meri as much as he could.

[ladyscorpio]

On the Tell Nothing last night, Sobbyn said Kody melted his ring way before she came in the picture and that's a lie. Meri said he stopped wearing it while he was dating Sobbyn. I'm sure it was all Sobbyn that put the idea in his head in the first place. She probably whined that she won't ever feel like his wife because he has a wedding ring already from his marriage with Meri. I bet she  guilt tripped him so much about the ring, that he ended up taking it off to show Sobbyn that Meri is no more important to him than she is. So that's why he told Meri he didn't want her to have "claim" over him. It bothered Sobbyn that Meri was his legal wife and she was so jealous of that. Sobbyn wanted to be the legal wife and hbic.  It's ridiculous how much she manipulates Kody and he is so blind to it all. She convinced him that she's the innocent one, and that everyone el is being mean to her and bullying her kids. Sobbyn is doing everything she can to make it look like she's not the cause of the family breaking up, that's why she keeps lying about the way things happened. She's trying to change the viewers perception of her and it's not working. She can't manipulate the viewers like she manipulated Kody.

[Quickbeam]

I’m aware you can’t ever know people based upon their presence on TV. That said, Robyn is just a dry eyed drama whore. 

[monagatuna]

I am so sick of hearing "I speak Kody." Kody is a fifty-something man who has full use of his faculties and the power of speech just like every other typical human being. If he can't use his words with these women he's known for decades and his children, that's on him. Unless he's cognitively impaired, he needs to work on his own communication, not have his real wife there to suck all the attention away from the conversation the adults are trying to have.

[Art Of Noiz]

So. Yes this was a boring af episode. 

New revelations (sandwiched in between recaps, teasers, and effin FLASHBACKS!!)

•Kody melted the ring. Christine spilled, Meri's mad. 

• Neither  Christine nor Janelle allowed Robyn to Kodytranslate or be the gatekeeper of Kody for their kids. 

I can't remember anything else? Did I miss anything?

 

[IvySpice]

Melting down a wedding ring is extreme. That sounds like it would be the means of formalizing a divorce in a non-literate culture. The idea of destroying a ring is literally part of our culture's mythology. It's the marital equivalent of burning a nation's flag. The fact that Meri stuck around after that suggests there was something pressing her besides her attachment to Kody. Maybe she was invested in Leo being in the same household with their siblings, or in the show and its paycheck, or in the sacred covenant, or some combination. But boy, is it unhealthy to stay in that kind of "marriage."

I did notice that throughout this episode, Kody and Meri both reflect on their relationship without ever acknowledging that they ever had a child together. Did Leo request not even to have their existence acknowledged?

Re "speaking Kody": this means that Robyn takes Kody's tone-deaf, cruel, or narcissistic statements and explains that the meaning of the words is not what the words mean.

But this crew sure sold us a bill of goods in the early years of this show! I bought that Meri and Kody were the most connected pair of the original 3 in the Utah period.

[Granny58]

18 minutes ago, IvySpice said:

But this crew sure sold us a bill of goods in the early years of this show! I bought that Meri and Kody were the most connected pair of the original 3 in the Utah period.

I bought that Christine was the happy, carefree one!

[Midwestern Lady]

6 hours ago, MsMalin said:

I think part of the reason Meri was upset is because of Christine's attitude when telling the story. She was giddy and laughing about it. I really don't like this side of Christine.

This sure has a been a lesson about being brainwashed in a cult to believe you must stay in a miserable.marriage throughout eternity.

Christine looked like a petty mean girl with her demeanor with the ring story.   I am tired of Christine saying "Oh was that mean?"  "I shouldn't have said that".  "Was that snarky".   She knows exactly what she is doing.  Own it like an adult.   

[ginger90]

Robyn, in my opinion, has been trying to erase anything and anyone who came before her right from the start. She always got visibly pissed when discussions of the past came up. 

Edited December 4, 2023 by ginger90

[kimaken]

14 hours ago, TexasTiffany said:

Well, Meri. Apparently, you've had years and years and years to tell that story about the ring. It's not like it's a new happening. Don't expect me to be against Christine because she mentioned it.

Maybe Meri didn't want to tell the story; maybe she really is planning to write a book and wanted to tell that story in the book. It was not Christine's story to tell.

[Kid]

This interviewer is just terrible. Just because Janelle has six kids, that is not evidence that the sex was good. The sex very well may have been good but having six kids is not evidence of that. Especially, when her role in his life was to be a breeder.

[UsernameFatigue]

28 minutes ago, Kid said:

This interviewer is just terrible. Just because Janelle has six kids, that is not evidence that the sex was good. The sex very well may have been good but having six kids is not evidence of that. Especially, when her role in his life was to be a breeder.

I missed Suki implying (or saying?) that, but it is a ridiculous conclusion to draw. Kody also has six kids with Christine, and he not only has never loved her, he appears to never have ever liked her either. 

But I agree that Suki is a terrible interviewer. At one point Kody said that he didn't want to rekindle (my word) a relationship with Meri because he would not have felt safe. I was sure Suki would ask what he meant by that. But nope, she said that she wanted to go back to something else he had said. WTF? I could see Meri not feeling safe in a relationship with Kody as he is a cruel, narcissistic excuse for a human being. But why would Kody feel unsafe?  Was he afraid that Meri would smother him with love and adoration? She does that (or did until recently) already.

I think Christine revealing the ring story was to get back at Kody and show the viewers what a lie the whole family has been living for years. It was Meri's story to tell and I understand why she is upset, but I think Christine may have done her a favour. If Meri is writing a book, I would definitely read it if it contains more gems like that, of what a total POS Kody is. And how unreal this "reality" show has been, from the start. 

Edited December 4, 2023 by UsernameFatigue

[Elizzikra]

2 hours ago, MsMalin said:

Good God, take the ring off but why melt it? How much $ would that even fetch? 

Currently 14k gold sells for about $37/gram and a typical wedding band is 4-5 grams. So about $150???

[laurakaye]

2 hours ago, Gramto6 said:

I don't think it was done for monetary purposes. It was done to hurt Meri as much as he could.

Exactly.  If you loathe your spouse so much that you destroy the symbol of your relationship behind their back and then string her along for another 10+ years, it would be far more humane to just let them go.

Kody got off on being worshipped, and Meri fell into that trap and couldn't get out.  No wonder he's so angry now - he had 20+ people hanging on his every word and jumping for joy when he gave them a crumb of attention.  Now he's got a whiny hoarder for a wife and her drama queen daughters, a quiet little boy who I think has his dad's number and a preschooler who runs the entire house with her shenanigans.  Hahahahaha.  Poor widdle Kody.

1 hour ago, ladyscorpio said:

I bet she  guilt tripped him so much about the ring, that he ended up taking it off to show Sobbyn that Meri is no more important to him than she is.

Robyn: Kody....Meri's wedding ring is rilly rilly nice.  It's so pretty.

Kody: You know what's pretty?  You are, babe.  You're so pretty.  Let's go for a ride in my white convertible to that great Mexican restaurant for hot chocolate.

Robyn: Kody, you know what my first wedding ring looked like?

Kody: Aw, babe....we don't have to talk about that right now -

Robyn: (stifles a dry-cry, looks up to the sky, dabs her eyes and checks for boogers, sighs dramatically): He was eating a bowl of Froot Loops and took out a purple one and asked me to marry him.  It had milk on it so it fell apart when he tried to smoosh it on my finger so I cried.  Kody, I cried and cried and cried but I said yes, but I was crying when I said it.  Meri's ring is sooooooooo pretty, Kody.

Kody (wondering if he's going to get any in the white convertible that night): Consider Meri's ring gone.  I'm gonna melt that sucker down.  For you, babe!  You're so pretty.  And skinny.  

Robyn: Oh, Kodyyyyyy!  You're my big strong handsome protector beefcake studmuffin of a man and your hair looks so good tonight.  Let me just run and change into my Diesel jeans and we can go! 

/finis

 

[lgandkihei]

Does anyone besides me remember the story arc some years back where Meri supposedly wanted another baby, and she and Kody were exploring all kinds of fertility etc. treatments?  Even at the time, it seemed so off to me, because Meri just seemed too old to be starting over with another baby, and Kody seemed to mainly be going through the motions just to make her happy.  But, I get that she's always felt inferior to the other wives because she hadn't produced as many precious offspring to make Kody look super virile and manly.  To sire that many kids, you must be a  real stud, right?  Just look at Jim-Bob Duggar!

(BTW...did any of you know that Kody has an ahhMAYzing body complete with sculpted pecs and a chiseled six-pack?  I believe he may have mentioned that once or twice or, oh yeah, that's right,  a shitload of times, all while pretending to be mortified at being thought of as "a piece of meat."  Hmmm.....overcompensating for a few "short"comings, maybe??)

I admit that I don't remember the exact timeline on the baby-hungry storyline (I'm sure one of the many experts on here will!), but if Kody was already way over Meri, lovewise, wouldn't it have been handy for him to mention that before contemplating bringing yet one more kid into the mix?

Oh... wait....I was thinking for a moment that he would be involved with the kid once it was born.  Silly me!

As for him supposedly never really loving any of his wives, pre-Robyn, maybe he did and maybe he didn't, but to throw it out there defiantly on national TV is just plain unnecessary and cruel.  He is such a small, petty man.

[thatsall]

14 hours ago, albarino said:

We don't care about Kody, but be nice to Meri and we don't go after you for all of the Medicaid fraud you've committed, deal?

 

 

I could be wrong, but isn't this one of the reasons polygamy was outlawed - that the children of the legally unmarried women could be the State's responsibility?

[JoannKBC]

This is just anecdotal, but I have noticed in all of the divorces I have been around, women tend to say "It was good once, but he changed" and men say, "It was never good. We were never actually in love." It's just so common. So it's interesting to be that it's really no different in polygamy. Kody is trying to convince himself and everyone else that he was never actually in love with any of his first three wives, and its was never a love marriage.

[zenme]

3 hours ago, Granny58 said:

and that's exactly why for religious types there is a sacred covenant.  What good is a covenant if you can break it just because you're no longer "in love?"  Do you love (or even like) the person?  are you friends?  Then stick it out.  

Exactly.  

I have to be honest, though, I couldn't care less that Christine revealed Meri's secret.  After all, it was due to Meri that for all those years Christine's kids went without, so that her imaginary kids could have.  Christine owes Meri nothing.