S17.E03: We Cut it Close(ed)

[RoseAllDay]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Ryan should have said something about missing folding towels at Cut, it was afterall his job there.  To me it looked like Ryan had some cosmetic surgery on his nose to look less rat faced, anyone notice that? Also maybe a horse will cow kick him for showing up in suburban OC dressed as a cowboy.

What in the world was Eddie wearing, a dress shirt, tie and shorts?

Gina wanting to take down someone for having an affair should be careful in her glass house because New Girl Jenn could ask her about her about the DUI...I personally do not care about the timeline of the affair, that poses no risk to the health and safety of the public but a DUI is much more punishable offense along with a public safety issue.

I am getting my fill of Gina thinking it’s her job to stir the pot. That’s why they brought Tamra back.

I’m also tired of her obsession with other people’s private lives. IIRC, she was all up in Elizabeth Vargas’s business too. Just study for that real estate exam, dear.

[dmeets]

Apparently Emily's storyline this season is Food. Food food food food. Food food. I'm not sure if the producers encouraged her to play it up, or if they're just editing her this way. But it kinda bugs me, like the show is saying "Just look at her! Of course she eats!" And I'm NOT saying there's anything the slightest bit wrong with how she looks, but she definitely has a different body type than the women who are typically on these shows. So it's weird that they keep showing her call attention to every drive through window that she passes by, and drink water from dog bowls, and eat cake that's been thrown across the room, and give her a tagline that's about feeding her tacos.

John is water and Shannon is fire, and the woman in the store is eyeing them suspiciously. Huh, strange, where'd this anvil on the floor come from?

The show just swapped out one Jenn with a boytoy named Ryan with a new Jenn and boytoy named Ryan. At least this Ryan hasn't changed the spelling of his name and doesn't walk the kids to school wearing a dog instead of a shirt. And they appear to still tolerate each others' presence. I think. For Gina to say she's triggered by Jenn's backstory seems to be putting it mildly. I feel a bit bad for Jenn. She thinks she's friends with Tamra and with Gina, but unbeknownst to her they apparently consider her more of a frenemy.

And then there's the other Ryan. Who is a cowboy now, because sure why not.

So far this season the feuds and friendships seem to be forming and shifting at a more rapid pace than usual.

[dancingdreamer]

13 hours ago, Axie said:

I don’t understand how and when Jenn’s affair started is any one’s business.

Exactly,  and Gina  feeling  triggered  by it, is a load of codswallap. She said she gets on with her ex, and she has a guy that puts up with her, move on, Jenn is none of your business. 

I'd be happy my business  survived  covid, I'd put several thank god it did on social media. I suggest Gina study  for her real estate  exam, she's  awful.

I love Emily, eating  the cake thrown at her, I just didn't  understand  why it was thrown( I still don't  understand  the holes in the wall)  Look at Me/Tamra, aren't I fun. No, there was a reason you weren't  in last season.

Heather is such a prissy wench, now she knows nearly as much as the acting coach.What are you cooking  chef? As if she hadn't   given  him the menu. Gawd, I'm not sure I can take this bunch.

[Baltimore Betty]

3 hours ago, oakville said:

I recall that Heather had a big party to celebrate her guest appearance on Hawaii Five 0. The show filmed the party

Was that the party that Terry wanted onion rings and she was not having it or was it the party where Tamra and Vicki got in a fight over Brooks as in "He does not tell me what to say!!!" party?  I know for sure it was not the party where the bow got eaten.

Heather often has a chef for just a regular dinner with the kids, I hope those kids know many people are not able enjoy that luxury.  

Is it a big deal to post a video on Tik Tok saying your business is still open when your friend is closing up her business? I do not think so. Cut had been closed for a bit since they are tearing things up and moving things out, it is not like it happened that day. If you can't be happy for your friend's business continuing to grow that is a sad state of things but then again it is self centered Tamra we are dealing with.  

Why spend big bucks on a cake then destroy it by throwing it at all your guests? I doubt most of the women would eat it but still, she could have had a sheet cake from Costco to throw at people and save their money. Having a big catered event to celebrate a loss of income makes no sense at all.

[Baltimore Betty]

54 minutes ago, dmeets said:

Apparently Emily's storyline this season is Food. Food food food food. Food food. I'm not sure if the producers encouraged her to play it up, or if they're just editing her this way. But it kinda bugs me, like the show is saying "Just look at her! Of course she eats!" And I'm NOT saying there's anything the slightest bit wrong with how she looks, but she definitely has a different body type than the women who are typically on these shows. So it's weird that they keep showing her call attention to every drive through window that she passes by, and drink water from dog bowls, and eat cake that's been thrown across the room, and give her a tagline that's about feeding her tacos.

John is water and Shannon is fire, and the woman in the store is eyeing them suspiciously. Huh, strange, where'd this anvil on the floor come from?

The show just swapped out one Jenn with a boytoy named Ryan with a new Jenn and boytoy named Ryan. At least this Ryan hasn't changed the spelling of his name and doesn't walk the kids to school wearing a dog instead of a shirt. And they appear to still tolerate each others' presence. I think. For Gina to say she's triggered by Jenn's backstory seems to be putting it mildly. I feel a bit bad for Jenn. She thinks she's friends with Tamra and with Gina, but unbeknownst to her they apparently consider her more of a frenemy.

And then there's the other Ryan. Who is a cowboy now, because sure why not.

So far this season the feuds and friendships seem to be forming and shifting at a more rapid pace than usual.

Yes to Emily and the food edit but she was the HW who pulled a full on foot long Subway sub from her purse for lunch...she ate off the platter of shrimp on the boat without bothering to put some on a plate and she said she would have eaten the cake kettle bell, so she enjoys her food.

Perry (Sean's mother) seemed so frail.

Emily drank out of the dog bowl? I missed that action.

The Jenn and Ryan thing is funny, I hadn't thought of that! Rind, Rine, Ryne, Rhine, etc...

Gina is a really bad bone carrier/shit stirrer, none of Jenn's affairs are Gina's affairs.  Gina's DUI can be thrown right back at her, Jenn might play dirty.

[bichonblitz]

Heather is 54. Her window of becoming an established actress at that age are slim to none especially since all she has on her resume are a some cancelled shows. She'll be lucky to get a few one bit walk ons if that.  Give it up, DuBragg and go concentrate on charity work or decorating dorm rooms or something. 

Tamra, Jen, Taylor and Shannon. The long extensions have got to go. 

I love the way Shannon freezes up every time Tamra goes in for the hug and the I'm sorry cry. She isn't buying what Tamra is selling but will deal with it for the show. 

 

[nexxie]

18 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Gina coming in with the big spoon to stir this shit 

Gina and Emily were so enthusiastic with their big spoons I thought someone was going to be knocked out!

[Natalie68]

19 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

She needs to pass the licensing test first. 

And seriously, she is a dumb fuck if she didn't know the correct answer what's his name asked her on tv.  I have to ff her.  The vocal fry hurts my head and she is a sloppy shit stirrer.

19 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Im sorry Ryan always gives me bad vibes .. just something about him rubs me the wrong way 

He is a future ID channel story.  WTF was up with him being a cowboy now?  Wasn't he some gruff faced January 6th looking tool last time we saw him?  Dude is fucking pathetic with his rat face and discriminatory views on anyone but a white man.  WHY does he have to be on our screen?????  

19 hours ago, QQQQ said:

Wow, what's with the sides of Shannon's face (along the hairline)? Are those indentations from fillers? I honestly don't usually notice (or care) about these things, but it really jumped out at me at the party when she wore her hair away from her face.

Looks like injection scars

[EXEAL]

Heather's family at the dinner table asking their personal chef what's for dinner. Then Heather's daughter informing her and Terry that the water pressure is really bad at her college dorm so don't be surprised when they get charges on their credit card for hotel rooms so she can get decent showers and everyone chuckles because, well you know, because they are stinking rich.
Say you have privilege without saying you have privilege.😉 
 

[dmeets]

59 minutes ago, EXEAL said:

Heather's family at the dinner table asking their personal chef what's for dinner. Then Heather's daughter informing her and Terry that the water pressure is really bad at her college dorm so don't be surprised when they get charges on their credit card for hotel rooms so she can get decent showers and everyone chuckles because, well you know, because they are stinking rich.
Say you have privilege without saying you have privilege.😉 
 

Ha, the Dubrows' annual "see aren't we a happy relatable family... who could buy and sell yours in a second" dinner with forced laughter, like they're all auditioning for a sitcom. I may have to take back what I said a week or so ago about the twins seeming impressively well adjusted despite having their dorms fully custom furnished out of a warehouse. Nicky might be alright, but Max is definitely pampered.

Reminds me of a few seasons back when Meghan said of Peggy and Diko "we're rich, we're rich we're so fucking rich fuck you."

Edited June 22, 2023 by dmeets

[Sweet-tea]

On 6/21/2023 at 9:17 PM, snarts said:

Too much Taylor already. I am really not a fan and her face frightens me.

The fact that Tamra already knows all the skeletons in Jen's closet is not going to end well for her. Heather referring to Tamra's reactions using the DEFCON levels was pretty funny. 

Having Tamra back is bad enough but Ryan? NO! Dude gives me the creeps, along with her mom and her icky boyfriend.

Taylor did not look good. And her hair extensions or wig, whatever it was, was AWFUL. Yellow and fake-looking. 

Ryan and Tamra's mother give me a low-rent vibe. Sorry. I know that doesn't sound great but it's the truth. They look like someone I would've seen on an old Cops or Live PD show when the police were responding. 

Shannon's face looked puffy and lumpy to me, and John didn't look good all. He had bags under his eyes and looked rougher than I remember him looking last season. Is it hard living? I can't believe he made her crawl over the driver's seat!

I understand Gina's feelings. Jenn should've gotten a divorce first. 

Edited June 23, 2023 by Sweet-tea

[QQQQ]

4 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Heather is 54. Her window of becoming an established actress at that age are slim to none

 

I'm almost 53. 

[Sweet-tea]

19 hours ago, ZettaK said:

The questions were really easy/common sense (even for somebody that didn't see them before), but she seemed to be clueless. I'm not impying that all of them would be easy, of course.

I thought the same thing. I was surprised at how basic the questions were. 

[Baltimore Betty]

2 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

I understand Gina's feelings. Jenn should've gotten a divorce first. 

But seriously, Gina has nothing to do with New Girl Jenn's relationship, not. one. thing. It is not a new relationship, she seems to have a decent relationship with her ex, (the marriage was probably on life support prior to finding another relationship), the kids seem happy and well taken care of, Gina has nothing to do with any of that, she should find a hobby, (tm, Betheny F. RHONY).

 

4 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

nd seriously, she is a dumb fuck if she didn't know the correct answer what's his name asked her on tv.  I have to ff her.  The vocal fry hurts my head and she is a sloppy shit stirrer.

Gina does not strike me as common sense smart, that test could be very difficult for her, I do not have high hopes for her real estate career.

2 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Taylor did not look good. And her hair extensions or wig, whatever it was, was AWFUL. Yellow and fake-looking. 

Hideous really. She needs a make over and maybe a little tweeking in the surgical suite.

I'm sorry but Mother Tamra and her Craigslist boyfriend...yikes...can you say rough.

[Axie]

I wonder if Heather had a laugh track installed in her house so that she can push a button for laughter at the appropriate times during her family sitcom dinners. 

[twilightzone]

On 6/22/2023 at 8:18 AM, RoseAllDay said:

I am getting my fill of Gina thinking it’s her job to stir the pot. That’s why they brought Tamra back.

I’m also tired of her obsession with other people’s private lives. IIRC, she was all up in Elizabeth Vargas’s business too. Just study for that real estate exam, dear.

Gina is desperate to hold on to her Orange.  It was widely reported she was on the chopping block.  She really hasn't had any relevant storylines of her own. That's why you see her going in on Jen.  That said, I don't think Jen has been truthful about whether she cheated on her husband.

 

Edited June 24, 2023 by twilightzone

[tvfanatic13]

I thought one of the Dubrow sons (Nicky?) was the one cooking for them, not a personal chef. 

[Starlight925]

Gina and her boyfriend are both going to sell real estate?  I'm confused.  Was Travis not working up to this point?  What was he doing?   Something about their relationship is off to me.  This didn't happen on the episode, so I'll put it in a spoiler tag:

Spoiler

His LinkedIIn has an "OpenToWork" hashtag, indicating that he's currently unemployed.  No mention of real estate.

Taylor's face looks deformed.  Poor thing, imagine being that insecure.

The Dubrows and their "happy family" table.  With their private chef, and a cleaner/helper.  All while the one daughter "threatened" that dad may see hotel credit card fees so she can shower.  Um, sweetie, ever heard of the campus gym?  

They are so.  Relatable.  Not.

That cake throwing was so stupid.  So immature, and what a way to prematurely end an otherwise good party, making your guests run off.  Who wants cake, icing, and food dyes all over your designer dress?  And that sticky sugary mess in your hair.  Tamra, your trailer trash is showing.

 

[Cosmocrush]

55 minutes ago, tvfanatic13 said:

I thought one of the Dubrow sons (Nicky?) was the one cooking for them, not a personal chef. 

Nope. Dubrag has a personal chef. 

I'm not sure those kids will ever learn to cook or do their own laundry or attend an expensive private college and  survive low water pressure, lol.   Good thing Heather and Terry consider themselves workaholics because they will be supporting those two (and maybe the other two as well) for a long long time.  

Edited June 23, 2023 by Cosmocrush

[howiveaddict]

Taylor bragging how sexy her husband is. Um, ok.  

[UsernameFatigue]

Tamra was brought back to save this franchise? If I were to look up what 'circling the drain' means, I am sure I'd see a picture of Tammy Sue. 

The episode was so boring that I was reduced to studying the horrific extensions of Tamra, Jenn and Shannon. They so resemble rats nests, that I was expecting vermin crawl out of one, or all, at any moment. Sadly the vermin watch was more entertaining than the episode.

When the first epi aired, I was trying to figure out who the two guys were in Tamra's tagline. I figured the shorter one must be Eddie though it didn't really look like him. The other guy I figured must be Tamra's mother's boyfriend. Imagine my surprise when I finally figured out that the cowboy in the tagline is Ryan. Lol.  And yikes! 

[Pi237]

22 hours ago, ZettaK said:

 

I can’t seem to be able to comment without quotes I didn’t copy??

Anyway, Crystal store lady looked either very hungover or on another kind of crystal. Not sure id look to her for any spiritual help.

[Pattycake2]

I don’t mind the Dubrow kids.  None of them have been groomed to be a model, been arrested, covered themselves in tattoos, or done porn.  Yet.

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, Pattycake2 said:

I don’t mind the Dubrow kids.  None of them have been groomed to be a model, been arrested, covered themselves in tattoos, or done porn.  Yet.

That's kind of a low bar for overprivledged kids from an affluent family.   Still I don't really mind them either, probably because we almost never see them.  And unless there is some new admissions scam going on, Max was accepted to Tufts University.  Sure, good schools and unlimited resources helped but still she got the grades.  

[ZettaK]

17 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

I had to laugh in the previews that Heather could not hide her jealousy over Taylor’s “acting” gig. It was barely hidden with the coach — Heather’s passive-aggressive, tight-smiled “What were YOU in?”, which the woman pretty much shot down with some pretty hefty examples, LOL. If I were the woman, I would have asked Heather the same thing. “I once played a murder victim on Hawaii Five-O.”

Heather’s vibe — “There is room on this show for only one ACTOR, and I AM IT. Ready for my close-up, Mr. DeMille.”

The fact that she apparently sees Taylor as a threat is its own comedy. Like her and Gretchen fighting about the Malibu Country role.

 

Because it should be all about Heather, all the time.

She can be beyond insufferable.

I wouldn't consider her behavior toward Taylor (or other women's behavior toward other women) jealousy. This does a disservice to women. I think that Heather who went to college to get a specific degree in Fine Arts (Musical Theater), is a trained actress, and had a legitimate career is really annoyed that people like Taylor, Gretchen, and Alexis (she "auditioned" for Malibu Country, as well) who have no skills, or talent want to be actresses because they were/are on a reality show. Many others do it, like Porsha, Kenya, and even Kandi from the Atlanta HWs who don't have proper acting training, Candiace from the RHs of Potomac, and even Heather from the RHs of Salt Lake City who mentioned she was interested in doing it. I'm sure even more, and those are among the HWs only.

Edited June 23, 2023 by ZettaK

[njbchlover]

5 hours ago, ZettaK said:

I wouldn't consider her behavior toward Taylor (or other women's behavior toward other women) jealousy. This does a disservice to women. I think that Heather who went to college to get a specific degree in Fine Arts (Musical Theater), is a trained actress, and had a legitimate career is really annoyed that people like Taylor, Gretchen, and Alexis (she "auditioned" for Malibu Country, as well) who have no skills, or talent want to be actresses because they were/are on a reality show. Many others do it, like Porsha, Kenya, and even Kandi from the Atlanta HWs who don't have proper acting training, Candiace from the RHs of Potomac, and even Heather from the RHs of Salt Lake City who mentioned she was interested in doing it. I'm sure even more, and those are among the HWs only.

Heather would be better off trying to go the Hallmark Christmas movie route.  Kyle Richards made a Christmas movie for Peacock and it was a cute, typically formulaic story.  Heather's acting skills would be best suited for that type of fluffy, feel good entertainment, and I say this as someone who really enjoyed the network show she co-starred in with Paul Sorvino years ago.  

[TV Diva Queen]

Was I the only one who thought that when Jen and Tamra were in Cut having their heart to heart - and they were talking about Jen's affair with Ryan - you immediately went to Tamra's son and was like "wow, kadoos to Tamra for being so calm and how did I NOT hear about this"  Just me?  See, told you I'm over this season.....

[MaggieG]

I don't buy Tamra's "I was so drunk, I don't remember anything I said last night." Also not buying her teary apology. She's so phony. 

[zenme]

11 hours ago, howiveaddict said:

Taylor bragging how sexy her husband is. Um, ok.  

The two Johns look alike.

[Starlight925]

+1 for the John making Shannon climb over the seat was ridiculous.

He couldn't have her get out, then pull closer to the curb?  

This 50-something woman (60?) has to, in nice clothes and shoes, climb over the console, because he can't be bothered to be a gentleman for 2 seconds?

I hope her heels scraped up his leather seats.

He looked worn and tired at that party.  Bags under his eyes. 

 

[Baltimore Betty]

12 hours ago, howiveaddict said:

Taylor bragging how sexy her husband is. Um, ok.  

But wallets can be very sexy, a Black Amex can be considered foreplay.

[lightninggirl]

Could have done without the dog humping the pillow. Good lord, really?

Why does Heather's male twin son look like he's 30? Totally doesn't match his sister at all.

Jenn needs to get her foundation to match her bronzer/tan. She looks so odd. I can't quite figure her out - is she a villain, or a good guy? But why is everyone bringing up her affair? Why does it need to be a topic of conversation, and it's only between her and her ex-husband.

Tamra can truly fuck a duck. Shannon's face was pretty much all of us while Tamra was glomming onto her with her apologies. I'm sure - like the rest of us - that she's waiting for Tamra to once again spin on a dime and attack her. Eddie's working so hard to prove his sexuality or something; I don't know what it is but holy god it needs to stop. He looked reallllly rough when he was giving his 'thank you' speech at the table - ouch.

Tamra's behavior with the cake was absolutely fucking ridiculous. My god. She'd have gotten a roundhouse if she came after me like that with a cake.

Can someone explain why Shannon had to climb over the Audi SUV's seat because John didn't want her to open the doors due to the curb height? What in the actual fuck? I'd be more worried about opening the door into the street. I just sold my sports car whose doors BARELY cleared the curb, but it never once hit a curb opening the door. And that's a fucking SUV/CUV. Fuck off, John, you controlling dick.

God, are we going to be subjected to Emily's kids every episode now? Annabelle reminds me of the annoying Aydin kid on RHNJ. 🙄 
Shane smacking Emily's butt was the most affection I've seen him give her since they joined the franchise, aww.

The Taylor chick has the weirdest body shape and the saddest plastic surgery.

Glad to see Ryan found a passion at the farm. He's had a few rough patches and I can't imagine having to have Simon as a stepfather.

On 6/21/2023 at 8:40 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

Im sorry Ryan always gives me bad vibes .. just something about him rubs me the wrong way 

It's like Vicki's freakshow of a son-in-law Ryan Culberson. If I were alone with both of them, I'd not eat or drink anything offered to me in fear of being sold, sued, or beaten senseless. They're both creepy as fuck.

[Natalie68]

18 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Taylor did not look good. And her hair extensions or wig, whatever it was, was AWFUL. Yellow and fake-looking. 

Ryan and Tamra's mother give me a low-rent vibe. Sorry. I know that doesn't sound great but it's the truth. They look like someone I would've seen on an old Cops of Live PD show when the police were responding. 

Shannon's face looked puffy and lumpy to me, and John didn't look good all. He had bags under his eyes and looked rougher than I remember him looking last season. Is it hard living? I can't believe he made her crawl over the driver's seat!

I understand Gina's feelings. Jenn should've gotten a divorce first. 

NO!  Her face is moving in an odd way, her make up color is wrong and she looks way older than she should.  That hair is very early 2000's.  

No shame in thinking Tamra and her blood relatives are the epitome of trash (ok, trash is my word!).  I mean, it IS what they are showing us.  Not our fault if we see things clearly. HA!

Shannon is a PSA for what happens to your face as an alcoholic.  Which I totally believe she is.  A real man would have let her out before pulling close to the high curb.

Gina was right about the affair.  Other than that, go away.

[bichonblitz]

20 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

Looks like injection scars

More like facelift scars. I don't think you get scars from injections. 

 

18 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

He had bags under his eyes and looked rougher than I remember him looking last season. Is it hard living?

I would say hard drinking. After a certain age you can't pull off the alcohol bloat anymore.  Both he and Shannon are boozers and when couples booze together fights ensue. 

[Snarky McSnarky]

So Ryan commutes from suburban OC to work at some nearby ranch?  it's not like he's living on the Ponderosa.  It looked like he was headed to a Garth Brooks concert with that stupid hat on his head.

[Natalie68]

8 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

More like facelift scars. I don't think you get scars from injections. 

 

I would say hard drinking. After a certain age you can't pull off the alcohol bloat anymore.  Both he and Shannon are boozers and when couples booze together fights ensue. 

I used to have to give myself injections weekly in my legs and I have little puckers in areas so that is what I thought it looked like.  But maybe it is a facelift.

[ladle]

I appreciated the way the closed captioning folks shaded Heather by putting "breakfastses" in quotes when she incorrectly pluralized the term in one of her talking heads. 

She was breaking glass on a boat in the last episode and now she's using incorrect words? Is fancy Heather Dubrow finally drifting toward the median of Housewife behavior??

[ZettaK]

13 hours ago, Pi237 said:

I can’t seem to be able to comment without quotes I didn’t copy??

Anyway, Crystal store lady looked either very hungover or on another kind of crystal. Not sure id look to her for any spiritual help.

Scary plastic surgery.

15 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

I used to have to give myself injections weekly in my legs and I have little puckers in areas so that is what I thought it looked like.  But maybe it is a facelift.

Shannon had a couple of facelifts. The latest a little longer than a year ago. 

[ZettaK]

I just saw this photo of Taylor and Jeana Keough. It's a few days old. They were at Mastro's (the restaurant). Taylor had more cheek fillers. Her eyebrows are too dark compared to her hair.

Edited June 23, 2023 by ZettaK

[dmeets]

Wow, Jeana looks great. Taylor looks like Madame Puppet.

Edited June 23, 2023 by dmeets

[bichonblitz]

2 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

I used to have to give myself injections weekly in my legs and I have little puckers in areas so that is what I thought it looked like

Puckers yes,  scars nah.

[Sweet-tea]

7 hours ago, MaggieG said:

I don't buy Tamra's "I was so drunk, I don't remember anything I said last night." Also not buying her teary apology. She's so phony. 

I believe she was in blackout. She looked hammered in the episode. A person can be in a blackout and still be walking around, talking and appearing somewhat normal. However, I don't think her drunkenness excuses her behavior. 

[eclectcmoi]

5 hours ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

So Ryan commutes from suburban OC to work at some nearby ranch?  it's not like he's living on the Ponderosa.  It looked like he was headed to a Garth Brooks concert with that stupid hat on his head.

Not that I want to defend Ryan because... ewww... but there are quite a few ranches in Southern California not far from Orange County.  They are mostly within an hour or two drive and not that far if you want camera time. The hat though was very stupid! 

[Sweet-tea]

5 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

I used to have to give myself injections weekly in my legs and I have little puckers in areas so that is what I thought it looked like.  But maybe it is a facelift.

She did admit to a facelift but I think it was awhile ago unless she got another one? Seems soon for a repeat 

[ladle]

On 6/21/2023 at 8:40 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

Im sorry Ryan always gives me bad vibes .. just something about him rubs me the wrong way 

Which Ryan? Because, yes. 

[ladle]

On 6/21/2023 at 9:27 PM, QQQQ said:

I do miss the good old days when someone dared to defile Heather's cake 😅

WAS THAT THE WORLD WE LIVED IN??

[ladle]

I’m sorry but nothing about Gina’s boyfriend screams “real estate agent” to me. 
 

Doesn’t he have a legit job doing something else?? In this land of grifters and bidnessmen I always thought that was one of his best qualities. 

[ZettaK]

38 minutes ago, ladle said:

I’m sorry but nothing about Gina’s boyfriend screams “real estate agent” to me. 
 

Doesn’t he have a legit job doing something else?? In this land of grifters and bidnessmen I always thought that was one of his best qualities. 

He is an investment banker.

[ladle]

On 6/22/2023 at 1:47 PM, bichonblitz said:

I love the way Shannon freezes up every time Tamra goes in for the hug and the I'm sorry cry. She isn't buying what Tamra is selling but will deal with it for the show. 

 

It almost felt like the dynamics of an abusive relationship when Tamra was love-bombing her at the party. 

[ladle]

I didn’t realize that Heather’s youngest child had transitioned or is at least using masculine pronouns now (the chyron identified him as “Heather’s son Ace”)? Anyway, there are a lot of negative things we can say about Heather but at least she seems to genuinely support her kids and allow them to be who they are. I also wonder what it’s like for her to film with Tamra’s son, given his comments about trans people. Watching Heather smack that bigot down would be 10000x more entertaining than listening to narcissists Tamra and Shannon argue about who ghosted whom.