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S05.E22: A Clogged Pore, a Little Spanish, and the Future


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Sheldon struggles to cope with the first signs of puberty. Also, Mary and George Sr. hunt for new jobs, and Georgie and Meemaw take a business trip across the border.


Airdate: 19 May 2022

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1 hour ago, Spartan Girl said:

I did love that Sheldon’s list of things he was hoping to do was all stuff on BBT. And the first appearance of his Flash shirt!

That was great!  However, I'm not happy with how Mary started throwing the want ads at George practically the second he announced that he quit his job.  It's good that she was trying to be supportive, but damn, give the man a few days to get over the loss of his job, especially since he was humiliated in the process.  He didn't harp on Mary to hit the pavement to start looking for a job ASAP.   I hate it when Mary turns into a nag.  I'm not blaming her for all of their issues, but she should've backed off and let him come to terms with losing his job.  

At least there were a few lighter moments in this episode.  I wonder if MeeMaw and Georgie bought the cigarettes and were trying to get them back out of Mexico.  I'm curious to see how that unfolds!   And Sheldon playing the parts of his Mom, MeeMaw, Missy & Georgie was pretty funny.  

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I wish they would give the women more distinct names. Missy, Mary, Mandy. It's too confusing. 

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Also, Sheldon claiming manners is why he won't take no for an answer is not funny. It's seriously obnoxious and someone needs to teach him how to respect boundaries.

I don't like how the school people mock him, he's a kid and if they don't want to mentor him they should send him to a counselor or someone else who will. 

Both sides of that dynamic are really upsetting and not funny.

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3 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

I know it’s getting too serious for some, but I’m in it until the end. See you guys next season.

I'm staying with it too! For me it's still one of the most well written and acted shows out there. Especially since they need to straddle the line of comedy and predestination already laid out by BBT. I think the only way to go all out happy is to do an AU version which they can't do!

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That dream sequence was amazeballs!  Iain Armitage is incredibly talented.  It took me a while to catch on they were all him.  MeeMaw was particularly impressively over the top, but his version of George was subtler, but absolutely spot on.

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I hope George lets Georgie and MeeMaw sweat it out at the border.  Georgie needs to find better ways to provide for his kid.

I also thought Sheldon's dream was hilarious.

Missy for the win as always. As sarcastic and mean as she sometimes is, she's the real heart of the family.  She can fix any problem.

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I actually loved the Penn and Teller bit. There's also the fact that Teller is a certain significant character on BBT, it made me smile. 

I'm still holding out for a quick resolution to this Mandy business next season since it's really brought the whole tone of the show down. 

All in all, a decent episode. Georgie needs to learn maturity and Meemaw isn't really helping there. And I feel for George Sr, especially since he has to deal with tools like Roy.

Oh, and that little conversation between Missy and Sheldon was the best scene. At this point, Missy is really the only one I'm invested in and she deserves everything.

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So I lost track of time and suddenly it was 8:25 so I'll have to watch later tonight...but I came here anyway and realized I totally missed last week's episode! So I watched that last night. It's probably a good thing all my shows are finishing up for the season.

"Sheldon struggles to cope with the first signs of puberty." His clearly deepening voice since the beginning of the season wasn't the first sign?

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Meemaw singing "Ring of Fire" was great comedy rather than just going for a talent showcase moment.
There was also a Penn & Teller moment that made me smile.
Okay show. I'll be back for more. Interesting that Mandy didn't appear in this episode.

But, wow Roy was really being a jerk to George and probably didn't even know he was being a jerk. Most unpleasant.
But Principal Petersen seemed sincere. 

I loved Mary going with the "Jesus turned water into wine" excuse to work in a place with a liquor license, but do most bowling alleys serve alcohol???
ETA: Thank you to the 5 posters who verified below that bowling alleys do serve liquor.

We assume that off camera Brenda and Mary bonded over Mary's feelings of desperation over the loss of a strong wage earner in the house, right?

Agree that the dream sequence was very well done. 

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10 hours ago, ChitChat said:

That was great!  However, I'm not happy with how Mary started throwing the want ads at George practically the second he announced that he quit his job.  It's good that she was trying to be supportive, but damn, give the man a few days to get over the loss of his job, especially since he was humiliated in the process.  He didn't harp on Mary to hit the pavement to start looking for a job ASAP.   I hate it when Mary turns into a nag.  I'm not blaming her for all of their issues, but she should've backed off and let him come to terms with losing his job.  

But George was the one who started with the house-that-isn’t-paid-for reminder, so what was Mary to do?  Banks really don’t care how you feel or where the mortgage payments come from.  Mourning a job is hard enough; adding foreclosure makes a bad situation so much worse.  


Mary lost her job, but kept busy with cooking and cleaning; her brush with soap operas came after her usual routine was done.  George didn’t even bother to tie his robe to watch The Price is Right.  Mary’s nagging paralleled Missy’s popping of the pimple.  

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2 minutes ago, nora1992 said:

But George was the one who started with the house-that-isn’t-paid-for reminder, so what was Mary to do?

We've seen that George works hard to provide for his family (as does Mary), so giving him a few days to sort things out would've been nice.  She didn't have to shove the want ads in his face so soon.  It's not as if he's been laying out for months on end without looking for a job.  I like Mary, but she's a bit of a nag at times.  

26 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

I loved Mary going with the "Jesus turned water into wine" excuse to work in a place with a liquor license, but do most bowling alleys serve alcohol???

The bowling alleys I've been in had a bar, with one having a lounge with a bar & entertainment.  The one that didn't serve alcohol was located in a dry county (yes, they still exist!), but if not for that, I'm sure they would've served beer.   

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26 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

I loved Mary going with the "Jesus turned water into wine" excuse to work in a place with a liquor license, but do most bowling alleys serve alcohol???

I don't know about most, but I've bowled on leagues at two different places (as a kid in the late 80s/early 90s and later around 2005ish), and when I worked retail the closing crew used to go to late-night "Cosmic Bowling" at a third alley, and they all had bars. 

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Sheldon is at his best in this show when he's interacting with Dr. Linklater and Dr. Sturgis (the Dean is also a nice addition).  I wouldn't mind keeping them as a completely separate (and funny) part of the show.

George and Mary fighting about unemployment was realistic.  Maybe it's not perfect for a "comedy" show, but I appreciate the fact that they're taking a very serious problem and giving us a true picture of its effects. 

Since Brenda's husband ran off with his mistress and presumably shut down his tire store, maybe George and Georgie could start a tire business together (as we know Georgie eventually does in "the future").

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4 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

I don't know about most, but I've bowled on leagues at two different places (as a kid in the late 80s/early 90s and later around 2005ish), and when I worked retail the closing crew used to go to late-night "Cosmic Bowling" at a third alley, and they all had bars. 

I grew up near a huge bowling alley/lounge/bar.  It was the biggest entertainment around!    As kids my brother & I spent many a Saturday evening watching our mom & dad bowl with their league.   We played arcade games and snuck the occasional glance into the lounge.  I can still smell the liquor and cigarette smoke that permeated the inside of that building!!  Aw, good times!  

6 minutes ago, Gregg247 said:

maybe George and Georgie could start a tire business together (as we know Georgie eventually does in "the future").

I would love to see a storyline showing Georgie's rise to success within the tire industry. 

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Pretty much every bowling alley I've been to has a bar, but then again, I am from Wisconsin.

My favorite bit was Sheldon playing the adults. Iain makes for a very pretty woman.

Mary and George looking at the want ads in the paper reminded me of a time when it was much easier to get a job.

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I feel sorry for both George and Mary.  She's been ostracized by her church, and he's been ostracized by his football friends.   While I'm enjoying the storyline with MeeMaw and Georgie, I'd really like to see some scenes with Connie comforting Mary.  They haven't shown her actually being there for Mary as she's been dealing with all of this.  George probably feels like he doesn't have a friend in the world, so there's nobody he can talk to.  It's a mess!   Ugh.  Can we get back to the comedy part of this show?  

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1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

But, wow Roy was really being a jerk to George and probably didn't even know he was being a jerk. Most unpleasant.

I think he was actually trying to be nice.  It's not that he personally dislikes George. He just wants a "winning" coach.  Not really sure why he knew George was getting fired first, but he decided to try to be nice, but when George pushed back, he didn't commit and went the jerk route.

 

1 hour ago, ams1001 said:

Sheldon struggles to cope with the first signs of puberty." His clearly deepening voice since the beginning of the season wasn't the first sign?

Apparently not, because I think he actually said besides the pimple he didn't have any other symptoms of puberty.

 

1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

I loved Mary going with the "Jesus turned water into wine" excuse to work in a place with a liquor license, but do most bowling alleys serve alcohol???

the one in my town does.

 

55 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

We've seen that George works hard to provide for his family (as does Mary), so giving him a few days to sort things out would've been nice.  She didn't have to shove the want ads in his face so soon.  It's not as if he's been laying out for months on end without looking for a job.  I like Mary, but she's a bit of a nag at times.  

I get what you're saying, but he did kind of choose to make the situation worse by not sticking out the rest of the season (year?).  Now, he quit, so he's not eligible for unemployment, and he also lost an extra so many weeks of work that he would have been paid for, and during which he could have also been looking for work.  He'd have had a bit of a head start.

 

36 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

George probably feels like he doesn't have a friend in the world, so there's nobody he can talk to. 

He probably doesn't have too much longer to have to worry about that.  Too dark?

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50 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

We've seen that George works hard to provide for his family (as does Mary), so giving him a few days to sort things out would've been nice.  She didn't have to shove the want ads in his face so soon.  It's not as if he's been laying out for months on end without looking for a job.  I like Mary, but she's a bit of a nag at times.  

Mary didn’t ask George to do anything she wasn’t willing to do: she didn’t shove the classifieds in his face - she brought them so they could search TOGETHER.  And he perked up a little at the idea.  Mary’s a bookkeeper: she knows how close they are to living on the edge.  Many things would be nice, but things can get even worse.
 

If George had waited until he was fired, shouldn’t he have been eligible for unemployment?  (For that matter, isn’t Mary?  She really didn’t leave voluntarily.). But since he quit, even that tiny cushion is not an option.

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Wow. How did I never notice they serve alcohol at bowling alleys? LOL.
Mom had some bowling trophies, and I have bowled a little. 
My parents' drinking consisted of one after work or before bed, and occasionally at neighborhood parties (maybe only New Years?).
I did some binge drinking/self medicating as a teen, but really never had the stomach for it.
Anyway, somehow I never connected bowling with drinking. 
Based on all the above replies, clearly it's a thing.

🎳Cheers!🍹

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18 minutes ago, nora1992 said:

 (For that matter, isn’t Mary?  She really didn’t leave voluntarily.).

I'm not sure about Mary's employment status.  Technically she wasn't fired, Pastor McNasty asked her to take a leave of absence, which didn't sound like he intended her to never come back but then she went and cleaned out her office and I don't think he said anything to stop her from doing that.  Either way leave of absence or let go she has no income.  But I don't know what this would mean in terms of being eligible for unemployment insurance in the '90s.

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20 minutes ago, SusanM said:

I'm not sure about Mary's employment status.  Technically she wasn't fired, Pastor McNasty asked her to take a leave of absence, which didn't sound like he intended her to never come back but then she went and cleaned out her office and I don't think he said anything to stop her from doing that.  Either way leave of absence or let go she has no income.  But I don't know what this would mean in terms of being eligible for unemployment insurance in the '90s.

Churches are exempt from Federal unemployment taxes, which means their employees are ineligible to collect.  And, I just looked it up and Texas also exempts them from state.

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It's always a treat to see Iain Armitage get a chance to show off his acting chops, with a nod to the makeup crew. I wonder what puberty will do to Iain's singing voice -- there came a time when Donnie Osmond could no longer sing his signature song "Puppy Love" on stage without his voice cracking.

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2 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

I loved Mary going with the "Jesus turned water into wine" excuse to work in a place with a liquor license, but do most bowling alleys serve alcohol???

All the ones I've visited do.  It probably brings in as much (if not more) income than the bowling does.

1 hour ago, Katy M said:

Not really sure why he knew George was getting fired first,

He knew because the football boosters were the ones pushing to fire George.

1 hour ago, nora1992 said:

If George had waited until he was fired, shouldn’t he have been eligible for unemployment?

I don't know how it works with school employees, and it probably varies from state to state, but in the states where I've worked, if you're fired for cause, you aren't generally eligible for unemployment.  George probably had a contract with the school, so that may make a difference.

 

1 hour ago, nora1992 said:

Mary didn’t ask George to do anything she wasn’t willing to do: she didn’t shove the classifieds in his face - she brought them so they could search TOGETHER.

That part didn't bother me because it seemed that by then George had processed the situation.  It was earlier while he was watching tv (I took it as the next day but I could be wrong) that I thought Mary could've given it another day before starting to nag him.

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14 hours ago, ChitChat said:

He didn't harp on Mary to hit the pavement to start looking for a job ASAP.   

I think that's because George never took Mary's job seriously. I always thought he saw it as a glorified hobby of sorts that helped her fill the day and never realized or apperciated how much money she brought in. Granted it, she wasn't earning a ton of money, but it did help with the household finances. 

6 hours ago, Browncoat said:

Couldn’t they have given Missy a better crush than the sno-cone, Vanilla Ice?

It was the early 1990s. It was probably him, Zack Morris, or one of the guys from Beverly Hills 90210. (Who else from movies/TV/music would she have a crush on (serious question, not sarcasim,snark)? 

4 hours ago, carolprince said:

All in all, a decent episode. Georgie needs to learn maturity and Meemaw isn't really helping there.

I agree. If Mee Maw hadn't mentioned Mexico, Georgie would have been perfectly happy going to a nearby big box store, buying cartons of cigarettes, and then selling the boxes at an enormous mark-up. 

3 hours ago, Gregg247 said:

Since Brenda's husband ran off with his mistress and presumably shut down his tire store, maybe George and Georgie could start a tire business together (as we know Georgie eventually does in "the future").

Maybe that's what gets Georgie away from the laundromat/casino. I actually think that would be a better fit for Georgie and Mary, because he could handle the sales/people side of things, and Mary could do the financial/bookkeeping side of things. 

Overall, I enjoyed the episode. I didn't like the dream sequences, but I did absolutely love Missy and Sheldon's heart to heart at the end. She is fantastic and always knows the right thing to say.

It's too bad we never got a scene of Missy and Penny having drinks together as adults talking about Sheldon, because they are clearly the two people close to his age who know how to deal with him/handle him, and the conversation would have been awesome.  

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I actually thought Mary was super gentle with George. She didn't chide him for quitting or bring up the dire financial situation they were in. She tried to comfort him, and was sympathetic to his feelings. But when he brought up that they were in big trouble, she took up immediately with trying to find a solution, and framed it as them doing it together. And yes, she reminded him that they might not be able to be choosy, given the situation and their lack of great options, but she really didn't light into him about it. I'd be in a total panic with an entire household to support, no income, and realizing how few jobs they'd be considered qualified for.

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3 hours ago, nora1992 said:

Mary didn’t ask George to do anything she wasn’t willing to do: she didn’t shove the classifieds in his face - she brought them so they could search TOGETHER.  And he perked up a little at the idea.  Mary’s a bookkeeper: she knows how close they are to living on the edge.  

That was the first instance with the want ads where she took a "we can do this together" attitude.  The second instance was her handing him an application for the grocery story.  The third instance was her shoving the want ads in his face while he was watching TV and asking him if that's what he was going to do all day.  He answered by telling her that he had a shift at the sporting goods store later.  I think she should've cut him a little slack and let him "feel sorry for himself" (as she said) for a few days.   She was being a nag.  YMMV.

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4 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

do most bowling alleys serve alcohol???

In my experience?  Yes.  Beer and bowling go together.  Also in my experience?  Bowling alleys have the best fry cooks.  It ain't fancy food, but some of the best french fries I've ever had came out of a dive bowling alley kitchen.

 

33 minutes ago, Sarah 103 said:

It's too bad we never got a scene of Missy and Penny having drinks together as adults talking about Sheldon, because they are clearly the two people close to his age who know how to deal with him/handle him, and the conversation would have been awesome.

Oh man.  If Young Sheldon is the Big Bang Theory prequel show, then may we please have a sequel show that does this?  Please?

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I had mixed feelings about the episode. 

I didn't care for Penn and Teller. The way the scenes kept cutting back and forth was annoying. 

Brenda and Mary working together? Yikes, that'll be interesting. Most bowling alleys I've known serve alcohol so I didn't find that unusual. 

The dream sequence was hilarious, as was President Hagermeyer and Prof. Linkletter lamenting their lost youth. The conversation between Missy and Sheldon was awesome. 

For the negative, I freaking hate the pregnancy storyline. Georgie fucked up, I get it, but he's also trying to be supportive and earn extra money. Watching everyone shit on him is tiresome. I don't understand Mandy's long term plan either. She's a waitress who can't even afford the basic necessities of adulthood. Pushing Georgie away helps her situation how, exactly? 

I'm fine with the show going into some darker places. The writers are in a tough spot. They can't turn it into a 100% comedy without retconning a big chunk of Sheldon's history on TBBT. However, I wish the finale had ended on a more positive vibe. 

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11 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I didn't care for Penn and Teller.

Me either.  It was wasted time.  Is this basically their act?  I've never watched them.  Looks like I haven't missed a thing though.  ;)  

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3 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

Me either.  It was wasted time.  Is this basically their act?  I've never watched them.  Looks like I haven't missed a thing though.  ;)  

I've always liked Teller better than Penn. Maybe because he doesn't talk. (I generally like them, and I enjoyed their Bullshit! series, but I wouldn't go out of my way to see them.) Threw me off slightly when his character actually spoke on TBBT.

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5 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

I loved Mary going with the "Jesus turned water into wine" excuse to work in a place with a liquor license, but do most bowling alleys serve alcohol???

I used to bowl a lot and alcohol has been a fixture at every bowling alley I’ve frequented.

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1 hour ago, Sarah 103 said:

It was the early 1990s. It was probably him, Zack Morris, or one of the guys from Beverly Hills 90210. (Who else from movies/TV/music would she have a crush on (serious question, not sarcasim,snark)? 

The guys from New Kids on the Block?  Brad Pitt was already pretty popular by '92. I knew a couple girls who had huge crushes on Ralph Macchio around that time.

I didn't like this episode at all.  The Penn & Teller bit was gross.  George getting fired seems to have come out of nowhere because the show hasn't focused much on his coaching.  They never even talk about going to the games on Friday night.  Plus, I'm tired of Meemaw and Georgie's illegal activities.

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1 hour ago, HurricaneVal said:

Also in my experience?  Bowling alleys have the best fry cooks.  It ain't fancy food, but some of the best french fries I've ever had came out of a dive bowling alley kitchen.

Oh, man. Bowling alley hamburgers, too!

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I hated this episode.  With the exception of Sheldon's dream sequence and the bit with Hagermeyer and Linkletter, it was a total bummer.  Although I didn't particularly enjoy the Penn and Teller scenes, at least there was an attempt to inject some levity into an otherwise downer of a show.  The Mandy and Georgie pregnancy storyline is truly a "Jump the Shark" moment for me in this series.  I am not a fan of Meemaw going off the rails with the ridiculous casino storyline either.  Good, I am glad this agonizing season is finally over.  

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1 hour ago, Sarah 103 said:

It was the early 1990s. It was probably him, Zack Morris, or one of the guys from Beverly Hills 90210. (Who else from movies/TV/music would she have a crush on (serious question, not sarcasim,snark)? 

I was older than her, but had a bit of a crush on Charlie Sheen at that time.  That would not have aged well, LOL.

 

11 minutes ago, Magnumfangirl said:

George getting fired seems to have come out of nowhere because the show hasn't focused much on his coaching. 

It totally didn't come out of nowhere.  The whole reason he's working at Dale's is because his job was uncertain and he wanted something on the backburner just in case.

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Sheldon imagining himself as every member of his family was hilariously uncanny, it was certainly much needed comedy in a pretty sad episode. I still really like this show and I think they are handling these real world issues well, plus this show has always had a big of a feeling of melancholy about it to be, as we have always known that the Coopers are going to have some tough times in the future. I am looking forward to things getting lighter for a bit though, especially with us getting closer and closer to George passing away when the twins are teens. It would be nice to have some more laughs before that. I will certainly be back for next season.

Sheldon as every member of his family and the Missy/Sheldon talk were my favorite parts of the show. Missy really is the heart of the family.

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38 minutes ago, Magnumfangirl said:

George getting fired seems to have come out of nowhere because the show hasn't focused much on his coaching.  They never even talk about going to the games on Friday night. 

It's actually come up several times this season.  Plus, the team's lack of success has been mentioned in other seasons and there's been plenty of talk about George's career throughout the entire series.  Hell, the first season even had an episode where Sheldon used statistics to help his father plan game strategy.

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59 minutes ago, Katy M said:

I was older than her, but had a bit of a crush on Charlie Sheen at that time.  That would not have aged well, LOL.

That actually would have been hilarious given the fact that this is also a Chuck Lorre show.

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It's really kind of impressive that Missy is so high on emotional intelligence, and Georgie is so committed to at least trying to be responsible for his actions, given how little attention or guidance either of their parents have given either one of them. I guess Sheldon being a genius in his own way makes 3 out of 3 kids who totally transcend their origins. 

I'm not saying Mary and George are bad parents. But they have three kids who are really quite ahead of the curve each in their own way.

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3 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

It was the early 1990s. It was probably him, Zack Morris, or one of the guys from Beverly Hills 90210. (Who else from movies/TV/music would she have a crush on (serious question, not sarcasim,snark)? 

This is probably too "on the nose," but Star Trek: TNG was hugely popular during that time period, and Missy certainly had at least second-hand exposure to it through Sheldon. Her crush could have been Wil Wheaton!

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This episode was more fun than last week's. Iain was brave! I didn't even catch on until "Georgie" walked in. But then I thought it would be another kind of dream. Never been into Penn & Teller so that was just a time-eater.

Sheldon and Dr. Linkletter have funny chemistry. 

Not crazy about the Meemaw cliffhanger - I hope they end that silly laundromat story and give Annie Potts something else to do.

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