S10.E05: Lacey's Journey

[PrincessPurrsALot]

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Lacey is so big form overeating that she can barely leave the house, but that hasn't stopped her from finding love with Ricky. Her weight isn't the only thing between her and a happy husband, however, with Ricky's sister Sharon in the picture.

Original air date 2021.12.01 

[Tango64]

Surprisingly, the eating scene that grossed me out was the guy in the back seat shoveling salad into his mouth, with ranch dressing on his face. 
The Cheerios tumbling out when they opened the trailer at gas station… that was just poetic somehow. 
Pretty sad story. 

[magemaud]

Too late to comment before the Live Chat closed, but this should be the series finale! They'll never top this episode. End things on a high note! 

[CrazyInAlabama]

I felt sorry for Lacey and her horrible life at first, no one deserves to be treated like that.   But by the gas station fight, I didn't feel sorry for anyone but Sharon, and Ricky.  

She's always going to find someone to use.   First it was Ricky, who has issues of his own, and then the church friends who had to pack her apartment up, and load the U-Haul, then the lady who picked her up after the gas station fight, that I think was connected to the church back in Washington,  and then the friend at the end that she's going to use until she dumps her too. 

Lacey should be ashamed to take advantage of Ricky, who obviously was developmentally disabled, and I think she was using him for his money.       I bet the previous boyfriends who dumped her finally firgured out she was using them too. 

You could see the friend start thinking moving with Lacey to Houston was a bad idea when Lacey suggested they only get a one bedroom in Houston.     THe woman had to fight to get Lacey to agree a two bedroom was necessary.     Why do I think that the bedroom would have been Lacey's, and the other lady would pay the bills, and sleep on a couch in the living room?     I bet Lacey will always find someone to use for whatever she can get.     

16 pages of Live Chat, not a record, but action packed anyway.  

The best scene was when Sharon realized how Lacey had lied about everything, and was just using her brother.  Then, when the call came in that they were approved for an apartment, Sharon realized what a user Lacey is.    Sharon is POA for her brother (she said that), and I bet is his payee if he gets other money from family, or other sources.     When Lacey wanted her suitcases, and oxygen, and the trailer door was opened, and the cereal came out, I was laughing so hard.     

The Supersized episode will run on 9 December, Thursday, 7-9 Central.    I already set up my DVR to record this on Thursday.   

Edited December 2, 2021 by CrazyInAlabama

[FurBabyMama]

I read in the live chat somewhere that she’s 36?? I’m 36! I thought she was at least 50. 
 

im so confused by this whole episode. I’m not sure what I watched. 

[OoogleEyes]

I rarely watch these things on repeat, however, this one was a classic. The live tweet was so great, I missed a lot of the actual show 

Edited December 2, 2021 by OoogleEyes

[edie3]

I was doing something else so I missed what started the big fight. Was it because she lied about missing an appointment?

[Hellga]

I didn't shut the TV off fast enough after Too Large so I caught the first seconds of 1000-pound sisters and realized that Lacey reminded me of them, both in terms of her looks and her unlikeability (I have up on the sisters halfway through the first season). 

This was a great one, I will be watching the Supersized version, I almost never do, but this one is worth it!  Plus I missed most of it chatting!  But chat was epic and I am going to reread it to see what I missed.  Love this forum!   This is literally the only show I have watched in the last couple years and the only reason I was able to stick with it is you, my pounder friends!

[Burning Rubber]

7 minutes ago, edie3 said:

I was doing something else so I missed what started the big fight. Was it because she lied about missing an appointment?

Yes. Sharon knows Lacey missed the appointment because she's not serious about doing the work to lose weight, while she's driving her user ass across the continent. Sharon is doing all the work and Lacey makes no effort.

[suev3333]

Good God, this one is a doozy......but on a good note, I must say  it is very entertaining!!!!! We were due for a good one.   Omg... Ricky's sister though, can she be a little more trashy and rude?!  I'm thinking, "shut uuuupp!!"   Her mouth!  And Ricky just sitting in back seat hanging his head.   Wow.  This one is defines dysfunctional,  minus the "fun".    And his "ok baby, ....take your time, baby, ....whatever you say,  baby...baby..babe...ok babe" x1000 ughhhh, was nauseating to say the least.   They've known each other for a month?  😆

I knew from the moment she had an accident in her pants on the trip, this was gonna be one for the books.   

 

 

[non sequitur]

Sharon was something else.

Michelle seemed staged, why would she take in some random to live with her husband and kids in a new place?

[Hellga]

As I missed the message in live chat, I am wishing @ShoePrincess speedy recovery!  Those spider bites can get nasty. 

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I mean, I don’t think anything Sharon has said is wrong…it’s just, I don’t think being trapped in a car with them would be time to bring up? 

That was probably the only time Sharon had them as a captive audience, otherwise they probably just avoided her...  my biggest question is why let these two big babies play pretend at moving to Houston and go along so far as to start driving?   Didn't she realize what Lacey is after driving with her to Houston and back (10 days or so) and seeing her not look any different after months of supposedly 'losing' weight?   This shit show should have been nipped at the bud.  Though we would have missed out on a lot of fun snarking...  but unless she is secretly on these boards, it surely couldn't have been a factor in her consideration?

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This episode feels like fan service, giving us everything we’ve ever imagined could happen. 

It actually kinda was!  Definitely the one to remember.  I started watching relatively late, only three or four seasons, so I missed out on some of the earlier classics - this one is definitely going on my list of 'best snarkfest' episodes!

[Hellohappylife]

FINALLY someone had the balls to tell the whining pounder to basically fuck off about being soooo tired. When the driver is the one driving 30+ hours,stopping every 30 minutes at the nearest McDonald’s all while the pounder sits there preparing their next food order.

I almost fell off my couch during these yelling matches 

Lacey- YOU'RE FAT TOO!

Sharon- I KNOWWWW!

Ricky- I lie to people to start conversations all the time 

 

Edited December 2, 2021 by Hellohappylife

[Chatty Cake]

Between the show last night and the live chat I was laughing my ass is off. We could have a thread for best comments on the live chat.

My husband thinks Sharon should drive all the pounders to Houston.

I did think the old acquaintance showing up in Texas was staged. Then going to the appointment with Lacey was downright odd. I guess they thought maybe Lacey could contribute to their household financially without thinking about the needs of a 600 pound person. Telling them that tortillas have carbs, the butt wiping among other things.

[cynicat]

6 hours ago, edie3 said:

I was doing something else so I missed what started the big fight. Was it because she lied about missing an appointment?

I'm still not 100% clear about this.  Ricky didn't know she made those appointments, or he knew and she lied about why she missed them?  He went to "I love you baby" to batshit cray cray in about 2.7 seconds, with his sister gleefully stoking the fire.  

I really like the positive episodes where the poundticipants struggle, and eventually get there, but holy crap, this was Must See TV.  

[Persnickety1]

7 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I felt sorry for Lacey and her horrible life at first, no one deserves to be treated like that.   But by the gas station fight, I didn't feel sorry for anyone but Sharon, and Ricky.  

She's always going to find someone to use.   First it was Ricky, who has issues of his own, and then the church friends who had to pack her apartment up, and load the U-Haul, then the lady who picked her up after the gas station fight, that I think was connected to the church back in Washington,  and then the friend at the end that she's going to use until she dumps her too.  You could see the friend start thinking moving with Lacey to Houston was a bad idea when Lacey suggested they only get a one bedroom in Houston.     THe woman had to fight to get Lacey to agree a two bedroom was necessary.     Why do I think that the bedroom would have been Lacey's, and the other lady would pay the bills, and sleep on a couch in the living room?     I bet Lacey will always find someone to use for whatever she can get.      16 pages of Live Chat, not a record, but action packed anyway.  

The Supersized episode will run on 9 December, Thursday, 7-9 Central. 

Oh gawd, I sat here in bewilderment saying to the TV, "DO YOU PEOPLE NOT REALIZE SHE CANNOT EVEN WIPE HER OWN ASS??????"

Whatever "friend" she lives with will quickly devolve into her personal ass wiper.  I have quite a few close friends that I adore...but not enough to wipe their ass for them.  There's a reason I opted against nursing school.  This episode reminded me why I chose a different path.  

That being said, this episode was the highest blazing dumpster fire in the history of this show.  I shall treasure it on my DVR, along with Penny's story and her bemoaning, "Where's MY yellow brick road??????"  

 

[Chatty Cake]

1 hour ago, cynicat said:

I'm still not 100% clear about this.  Ricky didn't know she made those appointments, or he knew and she lied about why she missed them?  He went to "I love you baby" to batshit cray cray in about 2.7 seconds, with his sister gleefully stoking the fire.  

I really like the positive episodes where the poundticipants struggle, and eventually get there, but holy crap, this was Must See TV.  

I was confused too. She said they couldn’t afford the flight in a vague way and her tone definitely indicated a lie but was it that surprising? I could cut Lacey some slack on that one. Can you imagine her on a plame?And how did Sharon know about cheap flights?

[jacksgirl]

Two words- Total Grifter

[ams1001]

10 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

You could see the friend start thinking moving with Lacey to Houston was a bad idea when Lacey suggested they only get a one bedroom in Houston.

Right? What the hell was that? Unless you're in a relationship and will be sharing a room, two adults living together need their own rooms. And even if you are a couple sharing a room, I'd argue an extra bedroom is a good idea, if only for some extra space.

8 hours ago, suev3333 said:

Omg... Ricky's sister though, can she be a little more trashy and rude?!  I'm thinking, "shut uuuupp!!"   Her mouth!

You know how in movies when there's an explosion they like to show the character's POV with the loud ringing in their ears dominating the audio for several seconds? It was starting to feel like that during this episode.

[ams1001]

8 hours ago, non sequitur said:

Michelle seemed staged, why would she take in some random to live with her husband and kids in a new place?

I was thinking the same thing. Production came up with that one. Probably doesn't even know her.

[Hellga]

25 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

I was thinking the same thing. Production came up with that one. Probably doesn't even know her.

She actually might know her, if they are from the same small town - my Mom keeps in touch with all kinds of random people from her small town (under 3000 people when she was growing up) and tells me long-winded stories about in-laws of the nephew of a former neighbor two streets over and people like that.   The fact that they haven't talked for decades changes nothing... though I would venture to say that producers may have paid Michelle to go to the doctor with Lacey and the conversation about possibly moving in with them was probably staged.  The decision to come out and help drive a person abandoned by an evil boyfriend could have been genuine, but once they spent any time together, I think anything that came after was at the producers' request. 

[ams1001]

8 minutes ago, Twopper said:

Packing to move is messing with my time to snark.

Gotta get your priorities in order!

[Shauna]

No time to read through all the responses as I have to do something stupid, like go to work. 

But you just know that the woman who picked up Lacey and said she may be able to  move in with her lied in the end and said they weren't moving to TX after all and so Lacey wouldn't be able to live with her. You just know that she actually did move, but changed her mind after a 2.5 car ride with Lacey to see Dr. Now.

By the way. Dr. Now is a fucking rock star.  Robotic surgery?  Un-fucking-believable.  I hope he lives forever.

[hookedontv]

4 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

My husband thinks Sharon should drive all the pounders to Houston.

^^^ 100% agree.  It would be comedy gold! 

This is the first episode I've watched (and did the live chat) this time around (I have the prior 4 episodes on my DVR.) And I could not have been more thrilled by the episode and the live chat. Many know I've had a crappy time of things lately, and watching Lacey's actual crappy time, plus all the other shenanigans, and participating in the live chat, lifted me up (cue Josh Grobin). 

Lacey is a user and always has an excuse to try to be the victim. She is the worst. I wonder if she will ever realize what a fool she is. Lacey didn't listen to Dr. Now AT ALL. He told her she'd have to lose significant weight before moving to Houston, and all she kept on repeating was that although she didn't lose weight, Dr. Now would see her "commitment" by moving down. That's not how it works, Lacey. 

Lacey wants what she wants, when she wants it, and that includes fast food and ass wiping. I loved how Sharon called her out on what drives me crazy: Sitting there while everyone else busts their humps moving and packing. 

[ams1001]

1 hour ago, Shauna said:

No time to read through all the responses as I have to do something stupid, like go to work. 

Again, priorities!

I forget what town they said but it seems Michele and her family already lived in Texas, just not Houston. I'd guess either they were moving to Houston but the offer for her to live with them was for show, or they were not actually moving at all.

55 minutes ago, hookedontv said:

^^^ 100% agree.  It would be comedy gold! 

They would need to find a better way of censoring than the incessant high-pitched bleeeeeeep. Though I did laugh at the one subtitle that included the phrase "******* **** ******."

Edited December 2, 2021 by ams1001

[magemaud]

Do they bleep things on Discovery +? Asking for a friend 

edited to add: What about blurring? 

Edited December 2, 2021 by magemaud

[Granny58]

5 hours ago, cynicat said:

He went to "I love you baby" to batshit cray cray in about 2.7 seconds, with his sister gleefully stoking the fire.  

Oh, he's super suggestible.  He'll side with whoever is strongest at the moment.  Preservation skill I guess.

[ams1001]

8 minutes ago, Granny58 said:

Oh, he's super suggestible.  He'll side with whoever is strongest at the moment.  Preservation skill I guess.

His sister said at one point "I'm responsible for him." I have to wonder if she meant that in a legal sense or just, like, familial loyalty. 

[JJ1]

25 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Do they bleep things on Discovery +? Asking for a friend 

Oh yes! No relief from all the bleeping even on Discovery +.

Edited December 2, 2021 by JJ1

[PrincessPurrsALot]

I didn't get to watch live, but I certainly enjoyed the live chat snark.  You were all on fire last night.

In watching most of it late last night, I fully support Sharon in being concerned about her brother and questioning how they were so in love so quickly.  He is an adult but he is also very easy to take advantage of.  Lacey is definitely a user.  Did he get the ring back or will Lacey be asking someone to take her to a pawn shop to see what she can get for it? 

Her backstory was horrible.  I do feel for her regarding the sexual assault when she was so very young.  Also, her mother disbelieving her had to be tough.  She was too young to know how to process what happened to her. 

I also liked Sharon pushing Lacey on things like packing the blur-haul.  We've seen it before where the poundticipant sits there while everyone else does all of the hard work.  Meanwhile, they talk about how exhausted they are from the move.  It's Lacey's stuff; time to get lifting, at least to the best of her abilities. 

However, the level of blow up over Lacey not giving clear answers about having missed a prior appointment was so OTT.  I have been in a car when someone started screaming at me like that.  Lacey was trying to shrink in on herself and not say anything in an attempt to keep it from getting worse. 

I do think the whole we'll leave you at the side of the road frontin' meant nothing until Lacey called the police.  Had they taken a break, they were likely to get her to Houston (in the worst road trip ever). It seemed that promise could have been kept.  Once Lacey called the police she escalated it beyond repair. I do wonder if Sharon, given her gentle demeanor and calm approach to all things, has had more than one friendly chat with officers of the law.  So that was the end for her and her brother. I think so much of what Sharon was doing was to convince her brother to get away from Lacey.  She could see where that path was headed and it wasn't anyplace good. 

With all of that said, the cheerios spilling out of the blur-haul had me howling. And the paramedics grunted when the put her into the ambulance.  They were incredibly kind taking her belongings with them.  

Ricky is free.  Now he can go back to lying to start conversations.  😳 🤣

[Kid]

5 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

My husband thinks Sharon should drive all the pounders to Houston.

🤣🤣🤣 That is a great idea! It would weed out the ones that aren’t serious every time!

[ams1001]

10 minutes ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

will Lacey be asking someone to take her to a pawn shop to see what she can get for it?

Something tells me...not much.

10 minutes ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

blur-haul

😆

11 minutes ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

Sharon, given her gentle demeanor and calm approach to all things,

HA!

Didn't she say on the first trip that she had to call and reschedule her appointment because they were two days behind? Did Sharon and Ricky not know that? They acted like the fact that she wasn't going to get there in time on the second trip was a surprise and the other missed appt was new info also (or were they referring to an appt in between that she missed entirely since it had been a few months). I was a little confused there. Then again, it was hard to follow all the screaming.

[Kid]

29 minutes ago, JJ1 said:

Oh yes! No relief from all the bleeping even on Discovery +.

I just checked.  They do on this show.  They do not on 90 Day The Single Life.  Go figure!! 

Edited December 2, 2021 by Kid

[fonfereksglen]

Somehow, I learned something last night.  I was not familiar with emotional epilepsy,  which Sharon mentioned.  Explains a lot about Ricky.

 

[ams1001]

2 minutes ago, fonfereksglen said:

Somehow, I learned something last night.  I was not familiar with emotional epilepsy,  which Sharon mentioned.  Explains a lot about Ricky.

Interesting...

"Focal emotional seizures are characterized by alterations in mood or emotion, or the appearance of altered emotion without the subjective emotion, at seizure onset. These emotional seizures may occur with or without objective clinical signs of a seizure evident to the observer."

I've only really heard of grand mal (what most people probably think of when they hear the word seizure; aka tonic-clonic seizure) and petit mal (where you just kind of appear to be zoning out; apparently the more current term is "absence seizure").

I wonder if that explains his flip from kiss-and-make-up to dump-you-on-the-side-of-the-road at the gas station.

[sempervivum]

1 hour ago, ams1001 said:

His sister said at one point "I'm responsible for him." I have to wonder if she meant that in a legal sense or just, like, familial loyalty.

I think I heard Lacey later say that Sharon has power of attorney for Rickey.

Can someone fill me in on what happened after Lacey went to college? Did she graduate, or ever work (other than feeder porn)? I was also kind of surprised that her family didn't seem to be helping her (not that I blame them).

[Persnickety1]

42 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

Something tells me...not much.

😆

HA!

Didn't she say on the first trip that she had to call and reschedule her appointment because they were two days behind? Did Sharon and Ricky not know that? They acted like the fact that she wasn't going to get there in time on the second trip was a surprise and the other missed appt was new info also (or were they referring to an appt in between that she missed entirely since it had been a few months). I was a little confused there. Then again, it was hard to follow all the screaming.

IIRC, they all went to the first appointment, albeit arriving late.

It sounded like Lacey then was supposed to have a follow up appointment in June, which she blew off.  Because she got engaged and....you know, had shit going on and was too busy.

I gathered that when she mentioned this, Sharon had no idea Lacey had skipped an appointment and then didn't believe Lacey's massive lying ass about just why she had skipped the appointment.

I think that's when Sharon realized Lacey had no real intention of losing any weight, there was no invite from Dr. Now to move to Texas, there was no apartment awaiting their arrival, and all that bullshit.  

Goddamn, this episode was GLORIOUS.  

[Granny58]

1 hour ago, ams1001 said:

His sister said at one point "I'm responsible for him." I have to wonder if she meant that in a legal sense or just, like, familial loyalty. 

she also mentioned she's his power of attorney, so it looks like both. 

[Granny58]

1 hour ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

Did he get the ring back or will Lacey be asking someone to take her to a pawn shop to see what she can get for it? 

I'd be fine with her doing this since they gave away all her stuff.  

1 hour ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

blur-haul

LOL.  Love that. 

[PrincessPurrsALot]

Sharon seems to have durable power of attorney for Ricky.  She didn't specify whether it was medical, financial, or both. 

When Lacey said plane tickets were too expensive as an excuse, there were so many sublayers.  She likely couldn't comfortably fit on a plane and would need to buy an extra seat.  She doesn't drive, and even if Ricky accompanied her (someone has to wipe her ass), they would need to take cabs or Uber everywhere.  She would most likely stay overnight and need to pay for a hotel.  Plus other expenses. 

Of course, there is the main problem that going to the appointment when she hadn't lost any weight would make it worthless. It's not like she was going to get there, show a huge weight loss, and get approved for surgery.  Instead we would have heard "this bad sichwayshun". 

[CrazyInAlabama]

Lacey didn't tell her parents about her rape as a 9-year-old, until she had counseling in college.   Her father believed her, her mother didn't.  Of course, the mother is the one that told Lacey her whole life that she was an IUD failure, and not wanted.    

Sharon said she's the payee, or POA for her brother, and I'm sure that Ricky's family expects Sharon to do everything for him.   

I think the lady (Michelle) who picked Lacey up in Texas, after the giant dump in the gas station, (that's not the giant dump in her pants on the other trip), had moved to the College Station area, and was connected with the church they both went to in Washington.     The other lady (Michelle, I think?) picked Lacey and her stuff up, and took Lacey to Dr. Now's, and I think that was when Lacey said to Dr. Now that Michelle and family would move to Houston.    However, I don't think Michelle said that, and Lacey was invited to temporarily in with Michelle.   After that plan was squashed (yes, intentional pun) Michelle took Lacey back to Washington state.   Michelle was so smart to not move Lacey in.    

Lacey had no apartment in Houston, had blown off several appointments with Dr. Now, and was only supposed to come back to Dr. Now's after weighing in at a clinic in Washington, and hitting her weight loss goal.   Then, if her tests for other conditions came back OK, Dr. Now would approve her move to Houston, and eventually surgery.   

I loved when Sharon went off on Lacey.   Lacey is a user, she used Ricky, Sharon, and was going to get every penny out of both of them.     Sharon said everything I ever wished someone would confront a Poundticipant with.     I think when Ricky turned on Lacey, was when what Sharon said about Lacey's lies got through to him.   

Lacey told Sharon and Ricky she only was taking her suitcases, and couldn't do anything with the rest.    It seems that Lacey really was keeping her apartment lease in Washington, so I don't believe that she was able to just move back there, and renew her lease.   

(If I put any wrong information, I welcome corrections.)

My guess is Lacey probably has an apartment full of donated furniture from the church, and anyone else she can con into donating.  

Edited December 2, 2021 by CrazyInAlabama

[Burning Rubber]

When Sharon brought up that she has POA over Ricky, a lot of the dynamics we saw came into sharper focus.

Sharon is fully responsible for her brother, and probably has been for most of their lives. He is simple, sure, but truly sweet-natured and guileless. The type of personality that invites protective instincts.

There are financial enmeshments between the siblings. Perhaps he lives with her and he helps pay their collective rent with benefits he may receive. Maybe she receives a stipend to take care of him. She is also his chauffeur. All of this requires that they reside in close proximity. 

Now let's see this mess from Sharon's perspective. She is probably torn between her obligations to protect Ricky and his need to live a fulfilling, semi-independent life. 

Sharon drives Ricky back and forth to Lacey's, a person who cannot do a damn thing to help Ricky get around, deal with his seizures,  or even cares to make him thrive. In less than a month (Sharon did say Ricky hadn't been dating her for a full month yet), Ricky has been roped into wiping Lacey's ass, cooking 12-course gargantuan breakfasts and being her valet and her nurse. 

Not only that, but many of Ricky's duties as Lacey's manservant involve Sharon, too - like taking Lacey to shop for bacon, butter and ice cream.

Next thing she knows, Sharon is "volunteered" to take this shameless, massive user to Texas... which is 11 days of her life she's never getting back, and who is paying for the food, the gas, the motels, the extra pants? It's an expensive trip and mostly a fast food orgy.

For 5 months Sharon continues driving Ricky around to wipe Lacey's keister and buy her groceries... Sharon has to notice that she keeps hauling pounds of butter and bacon in the back of her car. She has to watch as her brother proposes to Lacey and potentially hitches his wagon to a lifetime of personal servitude and exploitation.

Now she's again in the car after helping that craven cow pack to move to Texas with her vulnerable, naive brother and she's fuming. She probably doesn't know how to put an end to this insanity without feeling cruel to her brother who is over the moon with the prospect of wiping more shit off Lacey.

But at least there was some hope that Lacey would lose the weight and Ricky would return to Washington disillusioned with being used by Lacey, even if it was a long shot... and difficult to reverse if he is legally married. 

Sharon was looking for an out, for her brother's sake.

When Lacey was unsuccessfully trying to make up a reason why she missed earlier appointments, Sharon kept quiet and let Lacey hang herself while the camera was rolling for our amusement of that particularly epic moment.

That was Sharon's chance. She pounced on it and didn't let go.

Adding deceit about her effort to lose weight to Ricky's exploitation crossed a line.  That meant that Sharon was played into becoming Lacey's driver in support of nonexistent efforts, that Ricky was being played into becoming Lacey's permanent servant rather than a temporary one, that the deal would be sealed by marriage and Ricky's financial benefits would be eaten by Lacey.

Being lied to struck a cord with Ricky and he finally woke up. I hope he makes better friends in the future. 

Edited December 2, 2021 by Burning Rubber
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[Burning Rubber]

I thought Lacey said in the car that they had been approved for an apartment. 

She left Washington before knowing she had a place to stay on arrival?

Did she lie about being approved? I thought Ricky was the one who was approved. Does anyone know what really happened?

[WonTon]

1. I didn't realize this show has been back for a month now! Ugh. Playing catch up today! LOL!

2. Your live snark on this episode is novel worthy! Bravo everyone!

3. I live in Utah, for those who mentioned it's a beautiful state. It really is. And if you're outdoorsey at all, it's ideal. Much cheaper skiing and golf than anywhere else. Also, some gorgeous hiking, biking and camping areas. My advice? Avoid the tourist places like Park City and Moab - they're OK, but always jam packed. Many other, more gorgeous areas to visit.

4. That poor camerman/producer stuck in that car during those road trips! 

5. Yeah, the shart scene. A new low.

6. Have we ever had cops involved in an episode before!?!?!

7. Sharon - Life Coach!

8. "Thank you for wiping my butt!" Awww...the parting words of all tragic romances.

9. What happened to Dr. Now's super bitchy nurse? I miss her.

10. They just up and left her?!?!? WOW! This episode literally just gives and gives. I never watch the Super Size episodes, but i'll clear my schedule for this one!

11. "I can't do the plan on my own or without being in Houston!" YES! YOU! CAN! He gave you the diet. Follow it!

12. After complaining that last season was kind of a drag, this episode may be the greatest one yet!

13. My opinion on Trader Joe's must-haves: Sriracha BBQ Sauce, canned turkey chili (it really IS good), the Indian food packets (which go great over leftover rice), double roasted salsa, orange chicken, fried rice, chili lime seasoning, french roast coffee, everything chiabatta buns, garlic naan crackers, soy chorizo (I'm not a vegan or vegetarian and this stuff is SO good!)

Edited December 2, 2021 by WonTon

[Hellga]

2 hours ago, ams1001 said:

I've only really heard of grand mal (what most people probably think of when they hear the word seizure; aka tonic-clonic seizure) and petit mal (where you just kind of appear to be zoning out; apparently the more current term is "absence seizure").

Epilepsy can present as literally anything, depending on where in the brain abnormal activity happens.  It can even be things like intrusive thoughts, or ringing in the ears, or twitching of a limb, mimic a psychotic event...  unfortunately, it can be many different things and severity and frequency of episodes can also vary significantly from person to person and throughout a given person's lifetime.  That's one of the more challenging things about this disorder.  Good thing is that some 2/3 will respond beautifully to any medication you give them (and another 10-15% will eventually be able to find a regimen that works for them) and go on to live full, productive lives having families, jobs, driving themselves, etc.  On the worst end of the spectrum are people who are barely able to move and mentally don't progress beyond infant or early toddler stage (often they do not survive very long either).  Ricky was between these two extremes and closer to 'normal'.  I do hope he can find a genuine friend or two to have a more fulfilling life.

2 hours ago, ams1001 said:

I wonder if that explains his flip from kiss-and-make-up to dump-you-on-the-side-of-the-road at the gas station.

Hard to say, I didn't really catch that being absorbed in the chat, but I will try to pay attention on rewatch.  It could be that it was a defensive reaction to stressful situation of people shouting over him too..  

Edited December 2, 2021 by Hellga

[Hellga]

38 minutes ago, Burning Rubber said:

Adding deceit about her effort to lose weight to Ricky's exploitation crossed a line.  That meant that Sharon was played into becoming Lacey's driver in support of nonexistent efforts, that Ricky was being played into becoming Lacey's permanent servant rather than a temporary one, that the deal would be sealed by marriage and Ricky's financial benefits would be eaten by Lacey.

I just really don't know why she let things progress as far as they did with the move... didn't she see that Lacey was still eating crap and hasn't gotten any smaller over four months?  Maybe Lacey did lie to her outright about Dr. Now asking her to move as a result of a phone call?  That's the only explanation I can come up with. 

[lilysmom]

2 hours ago, ams1001 said:

 

 

Didn't she say on the first trip that she had to call and reschedule her appointment because they were two days behind? Did Sharon and Ricky not know that? They acted like the fact that she wasn't going to get there in time on the second trip was a surprise and the other missed appt was new info also (or were they referring to an appt in between that she missed entirely since it had been a few months). I was a little confused there. Then again, it was hard to follow all the screaming.

I agree, that was confusing and the screaming did make it difficult to follow exactly what was happening. I get the impression that this might have been the straw that broke the camel's back. After all they had been in that car together for a long time.

But 2 things got my attention.

1. How Lacey was in a strange state in someone else's car and was virtually at their mercy. Sharon had her possessions and all the power. Lacey was basically a hostage in that car, maybe realizing for the first time that she was with 2 people she really didn't know. (not saying that it was all unprovoked, but sad and scary nonetheless.)

2. How very quickly Sharon was able to turn the "lying about missing an appointment" into enough of an infraction that her brother instantly broke off his "engagement" and friendship with the woman he loved. I just wonder how much Sharon has controlled her brother in the past, both emotionally and financially. I can't help but think that both women had a distinct interest in what money Ricky is/would contribute to  their lives.

[lilysmom]

2 hours ago, fonfereksglen said:

Somehow, I learned something last night.  I was not familiar with emotional epilepsy,  which Sharon mentioned.  Explains a lot about Ricky.

 

Yes, I noticed this as she continued to escalate her screaming about Lacey's missing an appointment. I don't know anything about emotional epilepsy, but I can only imagine that if your brother is affected by it, you probably shouldn't be screaming about his fiance in a closed car.

[Pepper Mostly]

Lacey will never lose weight. In the scenes filmed in her apartment at the end, you can see the jug of pancake syrup on the counter, and the huge jar of mayonnaise in the fridge, and a giant tub of what looked like cream cheese. Pathetic. 

I did laugh about her bemoaning the loss of her pictures (yes I am a bad person). What did she have pictures of? Food?

[ams1001]

55 minutes ago, Burning Rubber said:

Did she lie about being approved? I thought Ricky was the one who was approved. Does anyone know what really happened?

Someone speculated in chat that Ricky was the one fronting the deposit so when he bailed, so did his money.

45 minutes ago, WonTon said:

6. Have we ever had cops involved in an episode before!?!?!

Well, there was the drug raid on Nicole's place...

24 minutes ago, Hellga said:

Hard to say, I didn't really catch that being absorbed in the chat, but I will try to pay attention on rewatch.  It could be that it was a defensive reaction to stressful situation of people shouting over him too..  

True. Or his sister just finally got through to him, and editing made it look like it happened faster than it really did.