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3 hours ago, Evenshorter said:

Does Joe remind anyone else of Joe Bastianich?  No? Just me?

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I shoved about 20 googled pics of JB in front of Partner South’s face. “ Seeee?!  See what I’m talking about?!  He looks just like him!”  Partner South, “um yeah”.

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2 hours ago, secnarf said:

I got a big kick out of knowing the Othello DD (jealousy), because I learned it from watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Never studied Othello in school, never read/watched it.

I got one a couple of months ago because of the artwork I chose for the cover of my report on the Revolutionary War in fourth grade.  Partner South nodded when I told him.  Since he wasn’t impressed enough, I went out to the garage and dug it out of the treasure chest my mom gathered for me for so many years.

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I remember once on Hollywood Squares, Peter Marshall asked someone (probably Rose Marie to block) "What is the green-eyed monster?" and thinking she was being funny, Zsa-Zsa blurted out "Jealousy!" even though it wasn't her question. They had to throw the question out & use another one. I kinda remember jealousy because of that.

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12 hours ago, Evenshorter said:

Does Joe remind anyone else of Joe Bastianich?  No? Just me?download (1).jpg

Joe Bastianich has a nice face, but I thought Joe Feldmann had a distractingly attractive face. 

11 hours ago, 853fisher said:

 I'm afraid I thought Joe looked like he was dressed more for a long bike ride than to appear on Jeopardy.

Joe probably did not dress expressly to show off his perfectly proportioned body on national TV either, but, although he mentioned having a family, if that doesn't include a partner, I have an unattached daughter his age who runs marathons and does long distance bike trips with friends. 

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I was a bit surprised that all three contestants guessed Byron.  Not only did he die way too early (1824), but he was a pretty scandalous figure, unlikely to be buried in Westminster Abbey.  He did eventually get a monument there, but it wasn't until 1969.

Tennyson, on the other hand, was Poet Laureate, much admired by Queen Victoria, and thoroughly respectable.  Just the sort of guy who would get a spot in Poet's Corner.  He was also a Lord, so he fit the "Baron" part of the clue.  On top of that, the clue even quoted one of his better known poems.  I found it a pretty easy FJ.

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11 hours ago, 853fisher said:

I knew the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam from the mystery of the so-called Somerton man, whose body was found on an Australian beach in 1948.  A snippet from Fitzgerald's translation of the Rubaiyat was found on his person.  Despite some intriguing clues, the man has not been identified to date.  It's a fascinating and haunting story.

I know it from **Rocky and Bullwinkle**.  They were looking for the Ruby Yacht of Omar Khayyam. My dad laughed and I asked what was funny and he explained.

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43 minutes ago, Welshman in Ca said:

In the same vein I was hoping that everyone had bet zero after the second one.

We were too.

On 6/28/2022 at 5:56 AM, MrAtoz said:

G and K are basically the same sound; it's just that the former is voiced and the latter unvoiced.  Voiced sounds can become unvoiced when they're influenced by other unvoiced sounds around them.  I wonder if the natural vocal rising that happens when you make something a question would tend to make the voiced G sound drift towards an unvoiced K sound?

I did find a reference that uses this description - it doesn't seem to match what I learned in linguistics many a moon ago - or else it's describing the same thing in a way I can't parse, which is entirely possible.

Anyway, if you say "Gehrig" and Gerik" and pay attention to the position of your tongue and mouth when you say them, they are distinctly different. This is partly from my linguistics courses, and partly from my experience in learning how pronounce words when learning a language.

14 hours ago, Katy M said:

Although in the interest of full disclosue, I'll say that I only got one right in hit me.  And that was the Monkees.  How embarrassing. LOL.

I managed "Believe" - I either read or saw something about it recently so it was in my mind. For Monkees - I hold no shame for loving that band when I was young - I said "Micky Dolenz" - the lead singer on that song. Sigh....

I said Byron too - I think "Alfred.....Lord Tennyson" just doesn't stick with me. Especially since my poetry class in college was horrible and I've banished most of it from my mind (same with the Rape of the Locke answer the other day).

On the other hand, I don't do too well on Shakespeare. I loved my Shakespeare teacher in college - he was great and brought it to life. I can't say the same for Shakespeare, blasphemous though it may be for English and Lit majors.

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That was an exciting game to watch and a good game for me overall even though I had only one ts - Rhone.  I knew Wallis Simpson but her name would not come to me.

I liked Joe but Pete and his orange tie are good too.

I knew the date was too late for Byron and it just didn't sound like him anyhow so I went with the only other lord I could think of so I got Tennyson.

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12 hours ago, ams1001 said:

We did Othello, Macbeth, and King Lear in 11th grade. We listened to them in class...on vinyl.

I think I might have said this before🤔 but in my 11th grade the teacher divided us into thirds, my third of the class did Hamlet, Macbeth, and Othello. One of the other groups did Ethan Frome! (still bugs a little that we did 3 Shakespearean plays while they did a book that was barely 200 pages). But yeah, Othello=jealously (Hamlet=procrastination; Macbeth=ambition) in my mind at least.

I don't remember what the third group did, obviously something longer than Ethan Frome.

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I got jealousy, Doc Martens, and Rhone.  

I also got FJ.  I knew the poem because it was mentioned in one of the Anne of Green Gables books which I read many, many, many times as a child.  

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Aww, I will miss Joe.  But Pete seems okay so I'm not gonna be too upset.

I ran 4 categories: Never Won An Emmy, Dual Biographies, Government Programs and With Your Best Shot.  Had several others where I only missed on clue, so not too bad.  The stumpers I got were: Knesset, jealousy, thunder, Rhone, canopic jars, Wallis Warfield Simpson (and yes, I did say her full name) and the Rubaiyat.

I said Tennyson for FJ because he was the only late Victorian poet who came to mind, but I thought I was wrong.  I knew the date was way too late for Byron.  Both were barons, but Byron died nearly 50 years too soon to have been the correct answer.

16 hours ago, Katy M said:

I got the missed clues of computer, Knesset, Doc Martens, microsurgery, thunder, work, Rhone, Wallis simpson and stone/iron/bronze.

I got stone/iron/bronze but only after Joe mentioned stone, so I'm not counting that one.  I did get the iron/bronze part on my own, though.

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4 hours ago, MrAtoz said:

On top of that, the clue even quoted one of his better known poems.

I had never heard of it.  The only Tennyson poems with which I am familiar are The Lotos-Eaters, The Lady of Shallot, Maud and The Charge of the Light Brigade.  But the date gave it to me.

3 hours ago, mertensia said:

I know it from **Rocky and Bullwinkle**.  They were looking for the Ruby Yacht of Omar Khayyam. My dad laughed and I asked what was funny and he explained.

That's where I first came across it, too.  My dad was also a Rocky and Bullwinkle devotee.

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16 hours ago, 853fisher said:

I'm afraid I thought Joe looked like he was dressed more for a long bike ride than to appear on Jeopardy.

If that's the case, then I vote for more contestants to dress for a long bike ride. I couldn't take my eyes off of Joe yesterday, and was so very sorry when he did not win so he could stay for one more day, to the enjoyment of my eyeballs. I even posted on Lilly's Twitter how much I liked what he was wearing.

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10 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

Joe Bastianich has a nice face, but I thought Joe Feldmann had a distractingly attractive face. 

Joe probably did not dress expressly to show off his perfectly proportioned body on national TV either, but, although he mentioned having a family, if that doesn't include a partner, I have an unattached daughter his age who runs marathons and does long distance bike trips with friends. 

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Attractive face, yes.  But his shirt last night had me rolling.  All I could see was someone wearing a black vest and cape with a light blue shirt accenting tiny skinny arms.  I pointed it out to Partner South who’s scoffed until Joe came back on the screen, then he was ruined as well.  

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Well I definitely got Ethan Frome after just mentioning him here yesterday! The funny thing was I fumbled on Ethan Allen because 'Frome' popped into my head first.

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I did not get FJ.  At all.

I got the missed clues of USA, Will Rogers, Plymouth, payola, Abishola, and Ethan Frome.

I got the entire categories of Time Machine movies (which is weird because I hate time travel) and diet hard.

Great first round, OK to bad second round.  Ended up in the black.

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Did pretty well in J! Ran Diets and Words Derived from Body Parts, missed one Movie and Chuck D, and two in Ships and Statuary Hall. In DJ I ran Title Characters, missed one in Science and -OLA, two Shoguns, and three in the others. Did not get FJ. TSes were Plymouth, Hawaii, payola(DD), Abishola, Ethan Frome.

1 hour ago, illdoc said:

TS: Hawaii (I was screaming "The lepers!"), Will Rogers, Claremont, Abishola, payola, Ethan Frome. No clue on FJ (Sesame Street was "after my time").

I wasn't watching Sesame Street until the late 70s.

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1 minute ago, Prevailing Wind said:

Y'know, Bialik doesn't giggle when the DDs are revealed - she gushes. I still haven't figured out why.

It's the strangest reaction and rather annoying, imo.

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35 minutes ago, kathyk24 said:

I think Final Jeopardy was wrong. Sesame Street debuted in November of 1969 not July. I follow Sesame Street on Twitter and they start the new season in November.

Wikipedia says it premiered on public television stations on November 10, 1969. The clue referenced the "pilot episode." The main Wikipedia page doesn't contain the word pilot (or July, except in the references) but IMDB says the pilot was July 21st.

There's a separate History of Sesame Street wiki page that says "During the production of Sesame Street's first season, producers created five one-hour episodes to test the show's appeal to children and examine their comprehension of the material. Not intended for broadcast, they were presented to preschoolers in 60 homes throughout Philadelphia and in day care centers in New York City in July 1969."

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I saw the clue and thought, this was definitely in my wheelhouse. 1969! Moon landing! Summer of love!  I was 12 and watched everything on tv, including the newly available pbs station, even though I was too young or too old for any of the shows. But nope, no clue!  Who was the character?  I can’t think of anyone starting with “d”. Was that just the first letter of the day?

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7 minutes ago, SoMuchTV said:

I saw the clue and thought, this was definitely in my wheelhouse. 1969! Moon landing! Summer of love!  I was 12 and watched everything on tv, including the newly available pbs station, even though I was too young or too old for any of the shows. But nope, no clue!  Who was the character?  I can’t think of anyone starting with “d”. Was that just the first letter of the day?

Based on the D I was wondering if it could be something Disney-related but I didn't know when The Wonderful World of Disney premiered. But my brother had a Sesame Street album which included Bert Ernie singing a song about "that lovely letter called D".

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8 minutes ago, SoMuchTV said:

Who was the character?  I can’t think of anyone starting with “d”. Was that just the first letter of the day?

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The camera pans across Sesame Street, starting at the famous sign. Two boys pass by Susan, who spends most of the show sitting at the window, not doing much of anything, apart from reading a book. We finally encounter Gordon (played by Garrett Saunders) repairing a cement tier. He greets the audience: "Oh, hello—I'm glad you found Sesame Street. It's not the easiest place in the world to get to." He spots two boys, Donald and David, and thinks they want their initials in the cement. He draws two Ds in it.

Here's more about the pilot episodes: 

https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Sesame_Street_Pilot_Episodes

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41 minutes ago, SoMuchTV said:

I saw the clue and thought, this was definitely in my wheelhouse. 1969! Moon landing! Summer of love!  I was 12 and watched everything on tv, including the newly available pbs station, even though I was too young or too old for any of the shows. But nope, no clue!  Who was the character?  I can’t think of anyone starting with “d”. Was that just the first letter of the day?

I was stuck on the moon landing too based on the date. 

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1 hour ago, ams1001 said:

There's a separate History of Sesame Street wiki page that says "During the production of Sesame Street's first season, producers created five one-hour episodes to test the show's appeal to children and examine their comprehension of the material. Not intended for broadcast, they were presented to preschoolers in 60 homes throughout Philadelphia and in day care centers in New York City in July 1969."

If the answer was referring to one of those episodes only shown in 60 Philly homes and NYC daycares, what a garbage clue. 

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1 hour ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

I was stuck on the moon landing too based on the date. 

Me too.

I framed the front page of one of our local newspapers from July 21 1969 for my dad for Christmas (he had saved it from when he was a child) and then I kept thinking if the newspaper mentioned anything that might be helpful...total mental side tangent.

Although I apparently loved Sesame Street as a child, and it actually taught me the letters of the alphabet and all of their sounds at a very young age, I would not have come up with it in a million years based on the clue that was given.

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I never would have known FJ either. I was trying to think of characters’ names starting with D, and all I could think of that remotely fit the time frame was “The New Dick van Dyke Show.”

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I had absolutely no clue for FJ. I first tried to think of a character who would want to leave evidence of their existence, got nowhere with that, then started thinking of homesteads that might be built and memorialized (Bonanza? No, they didn’t have cement). This was a disappointing miss, because TV trivia is right up my alley. 

3 hours ago, ECM1231 said:

It's the strangest reaction and rather annoying, imo.

Watching her react with glee to every DD reveal is like watching a baby play peek-a-boo. No matter how many times you open your hands to reveal your face, they never see it coming, they always respond like it’s the very first time, and they are never not completely delighted.

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3 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Wikipedia says it premiered on public television stations on November 10, 1969. The clue referenced the "pilot episode." The main Wikipedia page doesn't contain the word pilot (or July, except in the references) but IMDB says the pilot was July 21st.

There's a separate History of Sesame Street wiki page that says "During the production of Sesame Street's first season, producers created five one-hour episodes to test the show's appeal to children and examine their comprehension of the material. Not intended for broadcast, they were presented to preschoolers in 60 homes throughout Philadelphia and in day care centers in New York City in July 1969."

I'm a huge fan of the Muppets and had no clue for Final Jeopardy. IMO Final Jeopardy clues should be difficult not impossible.

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My FJ guess was "Twilight Zone."  I thought 1969 was a few years too late (in fact, it was a decade off) but I thought I was remembering a particular scene.  I guess not!  I just don’t think a children’s show would have ever come to mind for me.

I was happy for any of the contestants to win, but I bet Lauryl had a few more unusual family stories to offer if she'd stayed!  I've always liked that name so it was interesting to see a spin on it.

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That was a really terrible FJ clue. Unless you were one of the kids in Philadelphia who had actually seen (and remembered!) that pilot episode, how the hell were you supposed to get that? First I thought the date was the clue and the show had something to do with the Moon landing, but couldn’t think of anything. Then I thought “OK, it’s a show with a famous character with a D name” but couldn’t think of anything in time either. Turns out neither of those facts had anything important to do with the answer. 

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I missed last night's and tonight's episodes, and am too tired to go through them in their entirety, so just checked the FJ clues on the archive.

For last night's, I have been to Westminster Abbey, and specifically to Poets' Corner, but there are a lot of folks buried there, so that didn't help any.  I didn't recognize the line (I pretty much only know "The Charge of the Light Brigade" and part of "The Lady of Shalott" among his poems), so that didn't help, either.  All I had to go on was the date.  I wound up guessing Tennyson, but it was very much a guess and I was surprised when it was right.  This was very much a situation of not being burdened by knowledge, as I just didn't have very many poets to choose from.

In tonight's FJ, I had no idea.  Unless it's specified by the category, my mind has a bad habit of not considering children's or syndicatred programming, so I was focused on trying to think of a prime time series of that era about a character whose name begins with D; "today's episode is brought to you by the letter D" didn't occur to me as the reference.  It made sense when it was revealed, but would never have come to me.

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4 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

Y'know, Bialik doesn't giggle when the DDs are revealed - she gushes. I still haven't figured out why.

It’s not just the giggle, it’s the sound of surprise, which is misplaced, as well as the near uproarious humor found in this fortuitous event.  How the fuck could this be happening again tonight?  We just had 3, count ‘em 3 Daily Doubles only yesterday.  Now here we are with another!  Oh my Lord, this is going to be so much fu…WHAT???!!!  Another Daily Double?  Today?  Surely the network will run out if they continue to sling these thing…well sonofabitch.  Folks we have a third Daily Double in this right here, right now.  I need to sit down before I burst.  Maybe I should take this 4 year-olds headband off to relieve some of this pressure.  

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Wednesday’s game was brought to me by the letter “C”, for CRAP, how could I have missed that one?  Sesame Street continues to be a safe, predictable and gentle place for precious young minds to wander.  I remember my lifelong best friend telling me that there was a new show on just for kids.  We were so little, and it was a beautiful way to spend a bit of time in our already charmed and joyful childhoods.

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1 hour ago, 30 Helens said:

I had absolutely no clue for FJ. I first tried to think of a character who would want to leave evidence of their existence, got nowhere with that, then started thinking of homesteads that might be built and memorialized (Bonanza? No, they didn’t have cement). This was a disappointing miss, because TV trivia is right up my alley. 

Watching her react with glee to every DD reveal is like watching a baby play peek-a-boo. No matter how many times you open your hands to reveal your face, they never see it coming, they always respond like it’s the very first time, and they are never not completely delighted.

I even mumbled to myself “da dwilight done?”  No clue.  And your description of the peek-a-boo likeness is just too good.  Way too good.

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4 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Scene 1:

The camera pans across Sesame Street, starting at the famous sign. Two boys pass by Susan, who spends most of the show sitting at the window, not doing much of anything, apart from reading a book. We finally encounter Gordon (played by Garrett Saunders) repairing a cement tier. He greets the audience: "Oh, hello—I'm glad you found Sesame Street. It's not the easiest place in the world to get to." He spots two boys, Donald and David, and thinks they want their initials in the cement. He draws two Ds in it.

Here's more about the pilot episodes: 

https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Sesame_Street_Pilot_Episodes

Thank you!  I’ve been wondering why they would have started with the letter D.  I don’t necessarily recall if they typically went in alphabetical order, but if they began with D, I would expect there was a symbolic reason of sorts.  But it sounds like D was just part of the scene with Gordon and the boys, not the letter that that day’s show was brought to us by.  Now I can lay me down to sleep.  Again, thanks for supplying that.

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9 hours ago, South said:

It’s not just the giggle, it’s the sound of surprise, which is misplaced, as well as the near uproarious humor found in this fortuitous event.  How the fuck could this be happening again tonight?  We just had 3, count ‘em 3 Daily Doubles only yesterday.  Now here we are with another!  Oh my Lord, this is going to be so much fu…WHAT???!!!  Another Daily Double?  Today?  Surely the network will run out if they continue to sling these thing…well sonofabitch.  Folks we have a third Daily Double in this right here, right now.  I need to sit down before I burst.  Maybe I should take this 4 year-olds headband off to relieve some of this pressure.  

Exactly! 👏   
And yet, did you notice for the first DD on this last show she toned it down? But by the 2nd DD she was back to gushing. Maybe 🤔 she should consider hypnosis to break the habit of being so utterly startled by the appearance of a DD and How in the World to correctly respond?  

 

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Thanks to watching a lot of antenna TV in recent years, for FJ I spent the entire time trying to recall the title “Dragnet,” thinking the ending hammer might have been making a D impression.

But there is no way I would have guessed FJ, although, as a new grandma with a son-in-law who grew up with TV, I too have just discovered that:

9 hours ago, South said:

Sesame Street continues to be a safe, predictable and gentle place for precious young minds to wander.

…as illustrated by a recent text exchange between my daughter and me while she and her husband were out to dinner  
[starting with my question about violating my daughter’s bedtime protocols for the baby]:

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——which did put a 5-month-old to sleep for the night in less than 2 minutes.

Hrrmmm…. 
Maybe they could play some soothing Sesame Street music into Mayim’s ear whenever a DD appears?

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@South et al.: The "we" in my text was the "Royal We" in reference to my grandbaby, who, as the first, is a Little Prince.

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23 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Exactly! 👏   
And yet, did you notice for the first DD on this last show she toned it down? But by the 2nd DD she was back to gushing. Maybe 🤔 she should consider hypnosis to break the habit of being so utterly startled by the appearance of a DD and How in the World to correctly respond?  

 

Re FJ:  
Thanks to watching a lot of antenna TV in recent years, for FJ I spent the entire time trying to recall the title “Dragnet,” thinking the ending hammer might have been making a D impression.

But there is no way I would have guessed FJ, although, as a new grandma with a son-in-law who grew up with TV, I too have just discovered that:

…as illustrated by a recent text exchange between my daughter and me while she and her husband were out to dinner:

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——which did put a 5-month-old to sleep for the night in less than 2 minutes.

Hrrmmm…. 
Maybe they could play some soothing Sesame Street music into Mayim’s ear whenever a DD appears?

23 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Exactly! 👏   
And yet, did you notice for the first DD on this last show she toned it down? But by the 2nd DD she was back to gushing. Maybe 🤔 she should consider hypnosis to break the habit of being so utterly startled by the appearance of a DD and How in the World to correctly respond?  

 

Re FJ:  
Thanks to watching a lot of antenna TV in recent years, for FJ I spent the entire time trying to recall the title “Dragnet,” thinking the ending hammer might have been making a D impression.

But there is no way I would have guessed FJ, although, as a new grandma with a son-in-law who grew up with TV, I too have just discovered that:

…as illustrated by a recent text exchange between my daughter and me while she and her husband were out to dinner:

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——which did put a 5-month-old to sleep for the night in less than 2 minutes.

Hrrmmm…. 
Maybe they could play some soothing Sesame Street music into Mayim’s ear whenever a DD appears?

Shape, when I initially read the exchange between you and your daughter, and then, two or three more times, I assigned her role to yours.  I thought she and hubby were having a rough date night, and the remedy was possibly to watch a little Sstreet.  

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Wow, there's tough Final Jeopardy clues, and then there's that!  How on earth was anyone supposed to figure that out?  There's absolutely no way into the clue, and everything that seems to be a hint really isn't.  A show associated with the moon landing?  Nope.  A show about a character whose name starts with D?  Nope.  A show that has something to do with cement, or perhaps general building and construction?  Nope.

Terrible clue.  Absolutely terrible.

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