Who, What, When, Where?!: Miscellaneous Celebrity News 2.0

[emmawoodhouse]

2 hours ago, Zella said:

That's fantastic! I wish we did something like that here in the US. I donated to a few different US and international charities for Ukraine, and though I'm more than happy to donate to all of them again when I get paid again, it would be really nice to just have one trusted centralized point for the donations. 

Are you considering a donation to Mediccorps? 😂

[Crashcourse]

1 hour ago, SnapHappy said:

oo right.  We here in the US have gotten too much information on organizations like the Red Cross, Salvation Army, Goodwill, etc. that pays their layers & layers of admin bureaucrats huge salaries & benefits, while only pennies of the dollars donated go to the actual cause.  It sucks when you don't know who to trust with your hard-earned donations.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/530196605

[Zella]

44 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Are you considering a donation to Mediccorps? 😂

That's gonna be a big no. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Blergh]

8 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Marriage for anyone is never all smooth sailing or a barrel of laughs.   It takes time and effort.   It involves biting your tongue sometimes and other times making an effort to be happy for the other person even when you feel like crap.   

The fact that I didn't realize they had even been married that long says a LOT about how they are handling their marriage -- quiet and lowkey.   Not headlines of their antics, not a ton of pap shots of them out and about being "a couple."   No over the top marriage vow renewals.   Just ... being married.   It seems to work for them and good for them.

While I understand that folks can be 'works in progress' and there can be backsliding with those who've had addiction issues( and I have nothing but kudos for those who HAVE overcome the odds), considering how Mr. Bieber had previously claimed to have gotten clean and sober THEN fell of the wagon beforehand (and when he first became famous, he was supposed to have been a cleancut kid with immense talent who supposedly was forever above having ANY addiction issues thanks to how flawlessly he'd been raised solo by his mother from infancy), I think Mrs. Bieber should never let her guard down re the possibility that he could be manipulating her very nature to have her cater to him. Sad to say, if one visits ANY battered women shelter, one can count on finding at least one if not a legion of residents who ALSO had been manipulated by their abusers for years and even decades with pleas of 'I've changed/ I've sobered up/ I'll never drink/do drugs again/ I'll never hit you again/ Give me another chance or YOU are a bad, unfair person!'

Maybe things are hunky dory for them and will stay so. However, IF it turns out that it's been a nightmare behind the scenes while others had given him the benefit of the doubt which he used to his advantage, it wouldn't come as a total surprise to me. As I repeatedly say in these parts, regardless of whose favor it may be in: time WILL tell! 

[Mabinogia]

7 hours ago, SnapHappy said:

I'm fine when celebs use GFM to help focus donations in crisis situations.  I think it's smart. 

I see nothing wrong with celebs, or anyone, using any outlet available to help people donate in crisis situations like the attack on the Ukraine. The only time I give the side eye is when they GFM for something personal like if they started a GFM to buy a new mansion or something. 

I am always happy to see celebs using their status to put good out in the world, and even if they didn't personally donate, getting word out there and giving people a way to donate is putting good in the world. And I am less likely to believe they are doing it as a scam than some rando starting a GFM, since I remember at least one case where a couple started one for a homeless guy then kept most of the money for themselves. 

[Luckylyn]

[Annber03]

42 minutes ago, Mabinogia said:

I am always happy to see celebs using their status to put good out in the world, and even if they didn't personally donate, getting word out there and giving people a way to donate is putting good in the world. And I am less likely to believe they are doing it as a scam than some rando starting a GFM, since I remember at least one case where a couple started one for a homeless guy then kept most of the money for themselves. 

This. People talk all the time about how celebrities should use their money and power and influence for good, and then when they do, many are skeptical of their motives and sincerity.

Are there celebrities out there who do charity things to make themselves look good? Sure. But at the end of the day, if the people who need help are getting help, or they're bringing more attention and awareness to an issue or situation that deserves it, that's the most important thing. 

[Kel Varnsen]

9 hours ago, DearEvette said:

Oh for sure.  The "we are not going urban" is something so many other black actresses have reported as being told when they would ask about a part.

It is definitely a crappy reason to not get a job. Although there is probably some irony in the fact that if she had been in The Dark Knight Rises, even in a small role, it would probably hurt her chances of being cast in The Batman. Especially since there were only like 3 speaking roles for women in TDKR.

[Spartan Girl]

1 hour ago, Luckylyn said:

Poor Ryan. Sadly, he’s not the only African American celebrity that has had something like this happen to him.

[RealHousewife]

1 hour ago, Annber03 said:

This. People talk all the time about how celebrities should use their money and power and influence for good, and then when they do, many are skeptical of their motives and sincerity.

Are there celebrities out there who do charity things to make themselves look good? Sure. But at the end of the day, if the people who need help are getting help, or they're bringing more attention and awareness to an issue or situation that deserves it, that's the most important thing. 

Sometimes you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I'm not even a huge Kardashian person. Matter of fact, I liked E! BEFORE they took over. But I remember Kim would get crap for being this superficial ditz who doesn't give back. Kris said many years ago that she gave back quietly. Then she starts doing all this work to help people out, and that's picked apart too. I posted about something kind she did awhile ago, and there were a lot of posts "well so and so did the real work, Kim just wrote a check and got credit." You don't have to pretend someone is Mother Teresa, but I don't like crapping on people who help in whatever capacity they can. I also think a lot of folks (everyone from people who don't have a lot to wealthy celebs) feel like why bother to give back or help in some way if what you do won't be good enough. If you aren't rich and can't give millions, you might think, people will laugh at my donation. If you're rich and famous, people might go, not enough millions, we know that's pocket change for you. I say everyone do what you can.

Despite generally not being a fan of questioning sincerity, I'd be a liar and say it hasn't crossed my mind with a few. There's a Real Housewife who was against minimum wage increase for LA workers. She's also been sued for shortchanging staff and breaking a bunch of labor laws. She was always known for being charitable, and it's one thing I really admired about her. But when I read all this stuff I started to wonder, do you truly care about people as much as I first thought? 

[Mabinogia]

45 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

Despite generally not being a fan of questioning sincerity, I'd be a liar and say it hasn't crossed my mind with a few. There's a Real Housewife who was against minimum wage increase for LA workers. She's also been sued for shortchanging staff and breaking a bunch of labor laws. She was always known for being charitable, and it's one thing I really admired about her. But when I read all this stuff I started to wonder, do you truly care about people as much as I first thought? 

The sad thing is, people are extremely complex and being charitable doesn't exactly equate to being a truly good person. That person sounds more like she's charitable because it looks good, or it could be that the causes she supports mean a lot to her but her employees just don't. 

For me the bottom line is, any charity is helpful even if it is insincere. If someone donates a kidney for publicity, there is still a kidney recipient who will now live because of it. 

More specific to the Ashton and Mila, we don't know if their rich friends have donated through other means. The GFM is just their way of trying to help a bit more than they can alone. It's better than doing nothing, or just giving their personal donation and calling it a day. 

[Trini]

'Director Ryan Coogler Was Mistaken for a Bank Robber: ‘This Situation Should Never Have Happened’ ' - reporting at Variety.

[Stats Queen]

11 hours ago, SnapHappy said:

GoFundMe accounts are kind of a central clearinghouse for all people to access. 

Any amount of money that goes to help Ukrainian’s is wonderful.

I love that Mila and Ashton are outreaching to everyday citizens.

Personally, I have huge issues with GoFundMe as an organization, but as long as the money is going where it is meant to go.

it is really hard feeling helpless and useless as this is going on, I wish I was in the position to do more than donate money, but if I know it is going directly to support, that’s a good thing.

In the recent past Go Fund Me tried to redirect donations people made because they didn’t like the cause the people were donating to.

6at got them in hot water, unfortunately people weren’t fired.

This is why I will not help via Go Fund Me again (and I’ve done so many times). It doesn’t matter if I agree or disagree with the cause people were donating to - Go Fund Me tried to take their money and give it to something else. 
 

Also, I think Ashton is a great human being and is very philanthropic. His and Miles’s outreach to everyday people and sharing stories and educating others is all so positive.

Edited March 10, 2022 by Stats Queen

[Vermicious Knid]

Now I want a dating show titled "Kettle of Fish".

Yikes. Phil Collins performed sitting down on Monday and looking like he's about to keel over at any second.

[AgentRXS]

I love Phil Collins and hate seeing him look like this at only 71. He is the ‘80s to me.

[GaT]

5 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Poor Ryan. Sadly, he’s not the only African American celebrity that has had something like this happen to him.

True, but in this case, it was a Black woman teller who called police about him, so I don't think this is a case of "it happened because he's black."

[Guest]

1 hour ago, GaT said:

True, but in this case, it was a Black woman teller who called police about him, so I don't think this is a case of "it happened because he's black."

I don’t think the race of teller means anything as far as race being factor. I can think of a few very high-profile individuals as examples.

He was requesting to take money out of his own account and he freely handed over his ID. I really can’t find any justification for assuming it is a robbery that needed the cops to be called and her fearing for her safety. Everything about it screams profiling. 

Edited March 10, 2022 by Guest

[merylinkid]

8 hours ago, AgentRXS said:

I love Phil Collins and hate seeing him look like this at only 71. He is the ‘80s to me.

the teller didn't call the police.   Because the amount was over 10K it required manager approval.  The manager said to call the police.    This is NOT on the poor teller.  

Nope, manager assumed a black man who wanted to be discreet about getting cash must be robbing a bank.

[Luckylyn]

7 hours ago, GaT said:

True, but in this case, it was a Black woman teller who called police about him, so I don't think this is a case of "it happened because he's black."

Sadly systematic biases can affect anyone.  Being a member of a particular group doesn’t guarantee a person won’t perpetuate profiling.       

[Guest]

2 hours ago, merylinkid said:

the teller didn't call the police.   Because the amount was over 10K it required manager approval.  The manager said to call the police.    This is NOT on the poor teller.  

Nope, manager assumed a black man who wanted to be discreet about getting cash must be robbing a bank.

That’s not consistent with anything that I have read. The amount triggered an alert and then she told the manager that it was a robbery. There was one story that had her statement to the police where she said the manager wanted to handle it without contacting but the police but she insisted because she was afraid. In the 911 call she says that he handed her his ID but she didn’t even look at it because she was too nervous. 

Edited March 10, 2022 by Guest

[DkNNy79]

7 hours ago, Dani said:

I don’t think the race of teller means anything as far as race being factor. I can think of a few very high-profile individuals as examples.

He was requesting to take money out of his own account and he freely handed over his ID. I really can’t find any justification for assuming it is a robbery that needed the cops to be called and her fearing for her safety. Everything about it screams profiling. 

Yeah, I don't know how the teller misinterpreted this as a robbery if he said he is withdrawing the money from his account.

[bluegirl147]

1 minute ago, DkNNy79 said:

Yeah, I don't know how the teller misinterpreted this as a robbery if he said he is withdrawing the money from his account.

And had a withdrawal slip with I'm assuming the account # on it.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

And had a withdrawal slip with I'm assuming the account # on it.

He also had inserted his debit card and handed over his ID. At best, if something suspicious was going on, it would identify theft. She didn’t even try to verify if he was who he said he was. 

Edited March 10, 2022 by Guest

[Spartan Girl]

2 hours ago, Dani said:

He also had inserted his debit card and handed over his ID. At best, if something suspicious was going on, it would identify theft. She didn’t even try to verify if he was who he said he was. 

Even the 911 dispatcher sounded skeptical and asked if she was 100 percent sure. JFC…

Look, the teller might only be guilty of being stupid and or paranoid, but that doesn’t make it any less okay. She could have easily just asked him to pull down his mask so she could check his ID but no. This could have wound up so much worse than it already was. In any case, she’s probably going to get fired.

Edited March 10, 2022 by Spartan Girl

[GHScorpiosRule]

50 minutes ago, Dani said:

That’s not consistent with anything that I have read. The amount triggered an alert and then she told the manager that it was a robbery.

Then she's just stupid. Yes, the amount he wanted to withdraw is something only a manager can approve as it's over $10K. Coogler would have been better off just going directly to the manager to have this transaction completed.

I used to work as a teller many moons ago, so I don't know what the rules are now. I do know that if you deposit over $10K, by Federal Law, you have to complete a form (that whole money laundering thing), but I can't remember the rules/regulations about withdrawing that amount.

If the teller was too nervous about the amount, then she shouldn't be working in a bank.

Of course, I'm going by the comments posted here and that one screenshot, that even fucked up Coogler's name in the middle of the post.

[proserpina65]

3 hours ago, merylinkid said:

the teller didn't call the police.   Because the amount was over 10K it required manager approval.  The manager said to call the police.    This is NOT on the poor teller.  

Nope, manager assumed a black man who wanted to be discreet about getting cash must be robbing a bank.

Actually it is on the teller because she's the one who told the manager that it was a robbery.  Every single report I've read has agreed on that point.

[proserpina65]

53 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

And had a withdrawal slip with I'm assuming the account # on it.

The withdrawal slip had a note he'd written asking that the money be counted away from the counter and discreetly because of the amount.  Which is a bit different, but hardly something meriting reporting it as a robbery, imo.

[Luckylyn]

7 minutes ago, proserpina65 said:

The withdrawal slip had a note he'd written asking that the money be counted away from the counter and discreetly because of the amount.  Which is a bit different, but hardly something meriting reporting it as a robbery, imo.

I thought his request that the money be counted discreetly made sense.  He didn’t want to draw attention to the large some of money he was withdrawing which could be a security risk for him.  The teller’s overreaction was totally uncalled for. 

[proserpina65]

5 minutes ago, Luckylyn said:

I thought his request that the money be counted discreetly made sense.  He didn’t want to draw attention to the large some of money he was withdrawing which could be a security risk for him.  The teller’s overreaction was totally uncalled for. 

Oh, I agree.  I just hadn't heard of anyone asking that before - that's why it sounded a bit different to me.  I don't know anyone who could withdraw that much money at one time, but it makes perfect sense.

[janie jones]

I'm curious what he needed $12,000 cash for.

[Crs97]

Has the teller never watched a cop show?  Robbers never give you their identification.  It defeats the whole plan.  SMH 🤦‍♀️

[GiveMeSpace]

3 hours ago, janie jones said:

I'm curious what he needed $12,000 cash for.

What possible difference could that make? It is his money. In his checking account. To withdraw when he needs it.

[SusanM]

30 minutes ago, GiveMeSpace said:

What possible difference could that make? It is his money. In his checking account. To withdraw when he needs it.

Totally agree but I'm curious too.  No reason to believe it was for anything underhanded.  Maybe he's an awesome tipper.  Maybe it just comes down to "the rich are different" but I can't help wondering why he needed that amount in cash.

[Mabinogia]

11 minutes ago, SusannahM said:

Maybe it just comes down to "the rich are different" but I can't help wondering why he needed that amount in cash.

As someone who barely uses cash anymore and hasn't been inside a bank since I opened my account, I am curious why he wanted that much cash, mainly because I'd be terrified of having that much cash on me for fear of being robbed, so somehow losing it. You might think, who would lose $12,000 but if anyone would, I'm sure it would be me. lol Regardless of what he wanted it for, it was his money and this shouldn't have happened to him. 

[Anduin]

4 hours ago, janie jones said:

I'm curious what he needed $12,000 cash for.

To spread on the floor and roll around in.

[janie jones]

1 hour ago, GiveMeSpace said:

What possible difference could that make? It is his money. In his checking account. To withdraw when he needs it.

It doesn't make any difference at all. Are people not allowed to be curious? I've never needed $12,000 cash money for anything in my life and can't think of any scenario when I would. We paid more than that "in cash" for my husband's car, but it was actually a money order, and I would be surprised to learn car dealerships accept huge wads of bills.

Edited March 11, 2022 by janie jones

[GaT]

6 minutes ago, Mabinogia said:

As someone who barely uses cash anymore and hasn't been inside a bank since I opened my account, I am curious why he wanted that much cash, mainly because I'd be terrified of having that much cash on me for fear of being robbed,

Well, that's why he gave her the note, to ask her to count it out somewhere not public. Honestly, I don't know how anybody could read that note & think it's a robbery, I don't think she read it, she just saw a note & made a stupid assumption. 

[Mabinogia]

6 minutes ago, GaT said:

Honestly, I don't know how anybody could read that note & think it's a robbery, I don't think she read it, she just saw a note & made a stupid assumption. 

That's my guess too, that she didn't actually read the words on the note, she just saw a note and the dollar amount and assumed. I'm kind of curious if she has been involved in a bank robbery in the past, or if she was a somewhat new teller or what caused her to just jump to the conclusion that this was a robbery. I am trying really, really hard to give the benefit of the doubt that she just saw a black guy and a note and instantly thought "robbery". 

[Crashcourse]

I think the bank teller freaked out about the cash and the note, and if a white man had done it, she would have reacted the same way.  I hope she doesn't get fired.

[Zella]

1 hour ago, Crs97 said:

Has the teller never watched a cop show?  Robbers never give you their identification.  It defeats the whole plan.  SMH 🤦‍♀️

I have read of idiots robbing their own banks after doing transactions, but that's only if you fail How To Rob A Bank 101 at John Dillinger's School for Bank Robbery. LOL 

[BetterButter]

 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, GaT said:

Well, that's why he gave her the note, to ask her to count it out somewhere not public. Honestly, I don't know how anybody could read that note & think it's a robbery, I don't think she read it, she just saw a note & made a stupid assumption. 

She read it because she paraphrased it on the 911 call. 

2 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

I think the bank teller freaked out about the cash and the note, and if a white man had done it, she would have reacted the same way.  I hope she doesn't get fired.

Even if it wasn’t racism she shouldn’t be working in that job if she gets so upset during slightly unusual circumstances that she won’t even look at an ID to see if it matches the man standing in front of her and the account holder in their system.

That is mind boggling to me. She called the police, stood there stalling apparently in fear and watched as he was confronted by cops rather than just looking at the damn ID. 

Edited March 11, 2022 by Guest

[DearEvette]

1 hour ago, Crashcourse said:

I think the bank teller freaked out about the cash and the note, and if a white man had done it, she would have reacted the same way.  I hope she doesn't get fired.

I can't believe this is the first time someone has withdrawn a large amount of cash and asked that it be disbursed discreetly.  Additionally, he presented his ID and he put in his PIN.  Either it is a failure of training in which case, the bank needs to address that in a bigger context.  Or she failed at the common sense basics of her job which, luckily did not escalate to the point where he was killed.  Cuz he could have easily been. 

Also, she could be black and still profile.  As the old saying goes, all skinfolk ain't kinfolk.

[Ms Blue Jay]

Yes, Black people can participate in systemic racism.  We see it with cops too!  It's like women participating in the patriarchy or systemic sexism (not promoting other women, not paying them equally to men).  Happens all the time.  

 

Edited March 11, 2022 by Ms Blue Jay

[Guest]

I saw the body cam footage of the cops talking to Coogler on social media and I was struck by the fact that he is being revictimized by all of this being available for public discussion. I could only watch a fraction of it because you can clearly see him struggled to maintain composure while handcuffed and trying to explain why he was there and what he was doing. He was trying to maintain some privacy and keep a low profile and instead has what had to be a extremely traumatic moment laid bare for everyone to see. 

[Ms Blue Jay]

On the one hand I always think it's good that people are recording these things to bring awareness to these issues so that they don't happen in this silent vacuum.  Definitely better that we know about it and that Bank of America and the police face this scrutiny rather than not.

On the other, of course the whole situation is terrible for Ryan, who simply wanted to do something discreetly and it unfortunately backfired.

Edited March 11, 2022 by Ms Blue Jay

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

On the one hand I always think it's good that people are recording these things to bring awareness to these issues so that they don't happen in this silent vacuum.  Definitely better that we know about it and that Bank of America and the police face this scrutiny rather than not.

Absolutely. I am specifically referring to the police bodycam footage where he is explaining what happened while still cuffed. It is up close and personal, right in his face, while he is trying to prevent himself from being arrested. I understand the police report and the footage from inside the bank being released. It wouldn’t even bother me if it was a bystander recording from a distance. There are just some things that I don’t think the public doesn’t have a right to know.

[roseha]

10 hours ago, janie jones said:

I'm curious what he needed $12,000 cash for.

I used to watch a Canadian "Border Patrol" show which featured various people being questioned at the Canadian border.  One of the less dramatic ones was an American film director who was carrying a large amount of cash over the border because it was an easier way to pay his crew in Canada, if I remember.  The Canadian border staff counted it all and he went on his way.

Edited March 11, 2022 by roseha

[Ms Blue Jay]

Couldn't it have been a real estate payment/down payment for something?  

[Zella]

32 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Couldn't it have been a real estate payment/down payment for something?  

That seems like a low amount for real estate, IMO, but could definitely be for something like a car. I paid cash for my last car, but I never actually saw the 15k in dollar bills. It also kind of pissed off the salesman that I didn't finance. LOL