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I guess I’m the minority here, but the longer this season goes on and the more new characters they introduce the more I just feel it’s just so unfocused. I know some new clues were apparently(?) introduced in the last few minutes tonight but that didn’t make up for me for the previous 30 or so minutes that had almost nothing to do with the case. At this point it seems like they barely talk about Sazz at all anymore which saddens me. One thing I liked about Season Two was the sadness over Bunny’s death especially as felt from her friendship with Uma. Now even Charles barely mentions Sazz anymore. Instead we have to have more unfunny Bev Melon business among other things that easily could have been cut. i do think that Loretta as Helga is any interesting possibility but the way things are going with her and Oliver I doubt they will have Loretta involved in the crimes.

Okay since it has come up, I checked IMDB, and - hoping they have the correct information - not only does Season 4 have 10 episodes, but Season 5 does as well! https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11691774/episodes/?season=4 I agree, good news as the plot is getting more complex with what seems to be all the connections among the various characters.

Just another thought that occurred to me later, if Charles is possibly the target (which seemed certainly possible at first) wouldn't the killer have tried again by now? The fact that they haven't seems to remove that mystery - maybe?

I think also we are getting to the point where the leads are acting out of character. There was something off putting about Charles acting out the fantasy of the well dressed killer carrying off the body of - Sazz - whom he has previously spent the the whole season mourning? In addition Oliver's neediness is becoming so over the top that it's just not funny anymore. I really hope they can right the ship but I have a feeling that this season is all set and we may have to wait for Season 5 for things to get better.

I have to agree with everyone who is feeling disappointed. I really enjoyed the show until this season, but what's killing it the most for me is all the stereotypical Hollywood stuff, which is so so obvious and which the writers just don't want to let go. Bev Melon is such an annoying cliche that I really hope she turns out to be the killer but i doubt it somehow. It says something to me that in a show with 3 brilliant leads, the one time I laughed was at John McEnroe's cameo. I guess I can only hope that they stay in New York as much as possible going forward. I can't believe no one asked Bev how she knew about Sazz' getaway either. It should have been a major plot twist.

I should probably listen again but did anyone else think that Helga, or the voice over the shortwave, sounded like Jane Lynch?

With all the names Hammy has been given I keep thinking of Arnold Ziffel, who both received a draft notice and went to Hollywood.

I did enjoy this episode way more than the last one partly because I really did not like all the time given to the actors playing “themselves” - which by the way really has to rule them out as any kind of suspects thus making their appearances even less necessary. This one was a lot more interesting whether you buy the Westies’ story about Dudenoff and rent control or not. It remains to be seen I guess how important Helga will turn out to be. The scenes with the stunt people were mainly entertaining to me though I agree about Paul Rudds bad accent. The fact that Bev Melon already knew about Sazz’ Paradise before Charles even remembered about it suggests to me that it is actually possible that Sazz is alive after all. How else would she have found out about it? I suppose there are other possibilities but I wonder.

A lot to take in here! You all are much better than I am at speculating at possibilities in this case. I find the idea that Bev Melon is somehow involved intriguing. I have to say that on the face of it right now I really don’t like the whole involvement of the doppelgänger actors, i think it’s really slowing down the story—-however it’s possible that this is fitting in with the whole theme of Sazz being Charles’ double and now the possibility that Sazz herself has a double? Of the guest actors I only enjoyed Eugene Levy and agree that the scene with Richard Kind was hilarious. Both Eva and Zach totally annoyed me even though they obviously were playing satiric versions of themselves. I did love The Perfect Strangers theme sequence though and loved it being topped off by Una. Probably this will all come together later on but I hope we get back to the real trio next time.

I can't place it but I would guess it's an image of a person from a modernist painting or sculpture of some sort. It definitely doesn't look like Arbuckle to me.

Chris Eubanks was doing a fine job as the commentator on site at the Fritz/Tiafoe semi, he would be great as a full time commentator instead of Kyrgios for instance. In fact he would be an improvement over Chris Fowler who I suspect is reading most of his comments from a script.

A lot to digest in this one which I watched immediately after seeing the first one, because the ending to the first was so upsetting that I didn't want to leave it at that. I loved seeing Richard Kind, he does pop up a lot doesn't he, he even showed up in Elementary which seemed to find lesser known (but very gifted) actors in smaller roles. All the Westies were so obviously weird though that I wonder if they will turn out to be red herrings. Not thrilled with seeing Jan either so I hope her appearance will be a one off. Maybe her appearance was partly there to encourage Oliver and Mabel that Charles was starting to go off the deep end. Great scenes between Steve Martin and Jane Lynch. Now that it's been brought up I really hope Sazz is alive but who can tell at this point. Great to have Detective Williams back, I can imagine her reaction to our heroes contaminating the evidence. Even Perry Mason was more careful in the old days.

This season looks really strong to me. I admit I didn't love the Hollywood production meeting scene, even though our trio were great and the guest doppelgangers were fun. It's just I think that the producer/writer/directors seemed a little cliched, if that's a word, to me. I was glad that they went back to New York though it clearly was necessary that they go to Sazz' apartment. The ending was so dark, horrible and sad. I agree that Steve Martin totally sold it. I have to admit that although I thought of it in passing I haven't been seriously considering that Sazz might actually be alive, although the old trope of no body...in this kind of show does make it plausible. Personally I hope she is although in that case there must be another murder coming to keep with the show's theme? Or not? Could it be in tune with movie make believe?

@Harry24 that's such incredible timing, Disney pulls this every year getting into a dispute with some cable or other service during the US Open and settling just in time for football season. Last year ESPN was blacked out on Spectrum cable and I took out a Sling subscription to tide me over. Just so annoying that they pull this all the time!

I hope we do have a cooler winter after all this heat. In regard to dressing in church, I don't think footwear should be an issue. Ever since my vasculitis and balance issues I've had no problem with wearing some form of walking shoes even to a reception - I went to one at my artist's club this past week, I wore a black outfit but with the walking shoes, I am walking much better now but would not trust formal shoes at this point. However I do cringe when I see men - because it seems to be men 90 percent of the time - wearing shorts even in Church. Older men, younger men, what have you. It can't be that hard to put a long pair of pants on anywhere that's a least a formal occasion.