S02.E16: The Consequences Of Truth

[OnceSane]

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Ari struggles with the news about her pregnancy. Deavan and Jihoon make a big move. Yazan starts to question his relationship with Brittany. Melyza reveals her secret to Tim. Armando's family reacts to his engagement to Kenny.

Airs October 18, 2020.

[nutella fitzgerald]

Watched the first look last night. Hannah is an absolute doll. When she bounced into the car and cheerfully said “Hola, Kenny,” my heart grew three sizes. It shriveled back up when Kenny didn’t understand even that and had to ask Armando what she had said. But then it grew again when Hannah was unbothered by Kenny’s ignorance of the word “hola” and just sunnily repeated what she had said. 

[Christina]

12 hours ago, nutella fitzgerald said:

Watched the first look last night. Hannah is an absolute doll. When she bounced into the car and cheerfully said “Hola, Kenny,” my heart grew three sizes. It shriveled back up when Kenny didn’t understand even that and had to ask Armando what she had said. But then it grew again when Hannah was unbothered by Kenny’s ignorance of the word “hola” and just sunnily repeated what she had said. 

Little things like that, along with the fact at least two of his daughters are fluent in Spanish, or at least looked like it at the dinner, makes me believe that his complete lack of Spanish is scripted. They do that all the time on this show. Anna could speak some Turkish and Mursel some English, but they made them use the translator anyway. There was a Morman missionary to Brazil that married Kirlyam several seasons ago who spoke Portuguese fluently but wasn't supposed to on the show, and Molly could speak Spanish some but they didn't show her arguing with Luis in Spanish.

Every season there is a couple that must use a translator, and since Deavan and Jihoon are taking care of it this season, Kenny gets the clueless script. Unless she just spoke too quietly or quickly, he had to know that "hola" is "hello." He's probably at Tim's level of Spanish.

[Straycat80]

I’m watching  the first look now. Armando’s daughter Is just adorable. She’s so innocent and accepting of Kenny, it just warmed my heart when she said the three of them will be a family. 
I feel sorry for Brittany’s family, I hate how her selfish actions are hurting her mom and sister.

Not quite sure what happened with Ari. She was too upset to sit up for the spinal anesthesia so they were going to give her a General (knock her out) but then they showed her laying down but still awake and crying so I guess I’ll wait and watch the whole episode Sunday night. 

[Frozendiva]

Watched the 20 minute preview.

Someone in Brittany's family should sit her down and talk openly about her new possible life in Jordan. She doesn't want to convert, she doesn't want to adapt to another culture. Have your fling with Yazan and then have him find a more suitable life partner.

Thought Kenny, Armando and Hannah were cute. I still don't believe that Kenny cannot even speak basic Spanish. I had some coworkers from Chile and I picked up some Spanish from them. Hannah is very accepting to have two daddies.

Ariela, you are an adult woman who is almost 30. Bini is not ready to be a parent and neither are you. Sobbing at the hospital was not a good look. Yeah, you are scared but you have the love of your life with you. Your mom is a nurse and your dad a doctor. You are also not in some circa 1920s hospital/hut/field and having to chomp on a stick in your mouth. You will be fine.

[renatae]

1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

Ariela, you are an adult woman who is almost 30. Bini is not ready to be a parent and neither are you. Sobbing at the hospital was not a good look. Yeah, you are scared but you have the love of your life with you. Your mom is a nurse and your dad a doctor. You are also not in some circa 1920s hospital/hut/field and having to chomp on a stick in your mouth. You will be fin

Seriously. For a minute I thought she was going to suck it up, but noooo! Having been an L&D nurse, I'm generally extremely empathetic to women in labor, but I've never had a patient act so childish. I've had 16-year-olds who never carried on like this.

[AZChristian]

8 hours ago, renatae said:

Seriously. For a minute I thought she was going to suck it up, but noooo! Having been an L&D nurse, I'm generally extremely empathetic to women in labor, but I've never had a patient act so childish. I've had 16-year-olds who never carried on like this.

I'd think any self-respecting woman would try to behave better for the cameras . . . but drama queens would probably amp it up.  

[Straycat80]

9 hours ago, renatae said:

Seriously. For a minute I thought she was going to suck it up, but noooo! Having been an L&D nurse, I'm generally extremely empathetic to women in labor, but I've never had a patient act so childish. I've had 16-year-olds who never carried on like this.

I’m going to give Ari a break here. I was a Surgical Tech. There were lots of times we had women come up to the O.R. For emergency or unplanned C-Sections. In my experience a lot of these women, didn’t matter what age, were absolutely Terrified and acted like Ari did (sometimes worse). Everyone reacts different in cases like this. My best friend was an L&D nurse, she told some pretty wild stories about women giving birth naturally. God bless nurses! 

[Mrs. Hanson]

11 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Ariela, you are an adult woman who is almost 30. Bini is not ready to be a parent and neither are you. Sobbing at the hospital was not a good look. Yeah, you are scared but you have the love of your life with you. Your mom is a nurse and your dad a doctor. You are also not in some circa 1920s hospital/hut/field and having to chomp on a stick in your mouth. You will be fine.

I, too, as someone who has birthed twice:  First time was vaginal and he weighed 11 lbs, second time a C section, I would normally have empathy for her, but I don't.  You thought you were so edgy, cool and hip to to Ethiopia to have your baby and now it is REALLY hitting the fan.  More men than not have not been present at the birth and they all bonded just fine.  (Think pre 1975 or so, service members overseas, dads who travel and can't get home, etc.)  She left very good local hospitals and her parents for this.

[Mr. Miner]

I hope at some point we get to see that smirk slapped off of Brittany’s face. 😡

[AZChristian]

37 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

I hope at some point we get to see that smirk slapped off of Brittany’s face. 😡

I think she's got so much botox that - combined with her braces - she can't do anything else with her face.

[renatae]

5 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

I’m going to give Ari a break here. I was a Surgical Tech. There were lots of times we had women come up to the O.R. For emergency or unplanned C-Sections. In my experience a lot of these women, didn’t matter what age, were absolutely Terrified and acted like Ari did (sometimes worse). Everyone reacts different in cases like this. My best friend was an L&D nurse, she told some pretty wild stories about women giving birth naturally. God bless nurses! 

❤️Our hospital was unusual in that C-Sections and Tubals were done right in L&D. When I first started working there, I think I felt as nervous as the patients during the Sections, lol. God bless the techs who helped me learn to assist!

Edited October 17, 2020 by renatae

[7isBlue]

Ari definitely created her own problems by insisting on moving to Ethiopia to have a baby. I have a feeling her parents went along with the idea, initially, sure that she would come to her senses. They were probably afraid that objecting to it would cause little Ari to dig in her heels, just to stick it to mom and dad. She was such a brat about it, that I don’t have a lot of sympathy for her right now. That said... 

Biniyam is ignorant and not ready to have even a pet lizard! I cannot believe that he’s spouting this crap about mothers being less loving or emotionally attached (whatever the hell he was trying to say) to children born via C-section! Really, a**hole? That is so insulting and condescending.

I will pray for this child, that he or she will be adopted by Grandma and Grandpa and shielded from the idiocy of these two. 

Edited October 19, 2020 by 7isBlue

[Baltimore Betty]

My neighbor is due in December, she told me she is leaning toward a C section which seemed strange to me, she explained that most doctors will give the option of a C section even though there is nothing medically or any other issues that would require a C section...that seems strange to me...I figure the less they do to you during delivery the quicker you recover since they shove you out the door 12 minutes after you give birth.

Ari should be thankful that the hospital is clean and the doctors are experienced although she should be planning her return to the states ASAP because her relationship is not what she wants.

[magemaud]

On 10/16/2020 at 9:40 AM, nutella fitzgerald said:

When she bounced into the car and cheerfully said “Hola, Kenny,” my heart grew three sizes. It shriveled back up when Kenny didn’t understand even that and had to ask Armando what she had said.

I thought it was the girl in the middle seat (Hannah was directly behind Kenny, out of sight of the camera) who said "hola" 

Edited October 18, 2020 by magemaud

[magemaud]

On 10/16/2020 at 10:33 PM, Straycat80 said:

She was too upset to sit up for the spinal anesthesia so they were going to give her a General (knock her out) but then they showed her laying down but still awake and crying so I guess I’ll wait and watch the whole episode Sunday night. 

She refused to sit up or even listen to the doctor, or acknowledge what the doctor was telling her ("I don't want to talk to her," "I don't want to say okay") so there was no choice but to administer general anesthesia because she was non-compliant. It appeared the Biniyam was the one who gave consent for it. 

[magemaud]

On 10/16/2020 at 11:31 PM, Frozendiva said:

Hannah is very accepting to have two daddies.

Little Hannah looked rather confused because I'm sure none of the other children she knows have two daddies. 

[magemaud]

Wow, when Ari inevitably returns to Princeton, won't she have a story to tell her yoga class about her "interesting childbirth" experience that will make all others pale in comparison 

Edited October 18, 2020 by magemaud

[Persnickety1]

1 hour ago, magemaud said:

Wow, when Ari inevitably returns to Princeton, won't she have a story to tell her yoga class about her "interesting childbirth" experience that will make all others pale in comparison 

I'm old and mean, but I still suspect Ari had it in her back pocket as plan B that she had time to fly back to the states to give birth.

Obviously if that was her plan, it fell to the wayside 😂

[magemaud]

Just now, Persnickety1 said:

I'm old and mean, but I still suspect Ari had it in her back pocket as plan B that she had time to fly back to the states to give birth.

Obviously if that was her plan, it fell to the wayside 😂

If that was her plan, she's dumber than I thought. No airline will allow you to fly after 37 weeks. Maybe she thought Dr. Daddy would hire a private medical transport jet. Her parents weren't scheduled to arrive until week 40, which I think was cutting it kind of close anyway. 

[Angel pie]

13 hours ago, 7isBlue said:

Biniyam is ignorant and not ready to have even a pet lizard! I cannot believe that he’s spouting this crap about mothers being less loving or emotionally attached (whatever the hell he was trying to say) to children born via C-section! Really, a**hole? That is so insulting and condescending.

 

In times past it was considered a sin to minimize pain during childbirth, then women became liberated. Queen Victoria was given chloroform during some of her childbirths. Come to think of it, that's a bad example because she was known as a bad mother.

[Baltimore Betty]

4 hours ago, magemaud said:

It appeared the Biniyam was the one who gave consent for it. 

Anything to shut that girl up.

[Baltimore Betty]

Ari crying for her mother is understandable, why wouldn't she call her mother when they walked in the surgical suite to make her feel better, show the room on facetime get calmed down then get the spinal.

Having a baby is the easy part, I would be wanting my mother after the delivery...that is when the hard work begins. My babies are 27 and 31, they were both quick and somewhat easy deliveries, the next 18 years were what I should have been knocked out for, lol.

[mamadrama]

On 10/16/2020 at 9:58 PM, Christina said:

Little things like that, along with the fact at least two of his daughters are fluent in Spanish, or at least looked like it at the dinner, makes me believe that his complete lack of Spanish is scripted. They do that all the time on this show. Anna could speak some Turkish and Mursel some English, but they made them use the translator anyway. There was a Morman missionary to Brazil that married Kirlyam several seasons ago who spoke Portuguese fluently but wasn't supposed to on the show, and Molly could speak Spanish some but they didn't show her arguing with Luis in Spanish.

Every season there is a couple that must use a translator, and since Deavan and Jihoon are taking care of it this season, Kenny gets the clueless script. Unless she just spoke too quietly or quickly, he had to know that "hola" is "hello." He's probably at Tim's level of Spanish.

I agree. I think Kenny can speak Spanish. He's pretending not to and going overboard with what he "can't" understand. (Rein it in, Kenny. Anyone with a kid or grandkid who's watched an episode of Dora knows what "hola" means.) TLC can't give us a boring, regular couple-they have to mess with shit to make it "interesting." Even Anna and Mursel laughed about the translator in interviews. They didn't need it, thought it was dumb, and hated using it. 

[mamadrama]

On 10/16/2020 at 11:31 PM, Frozendiva said:

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Ariela, you are an adult woman who is almost 30. Bini is not ready to be a parent and neither are you. Sobbing at the hospital was not a good look. Yeah, you are scared but you have the love of your life with you. Your mom is a nurse and your dad a doctor. You are also not in some circa 1920s hospital/hut/field and having to chomp on a stick in your mouth. You will be fine.

I guess I'm alone in being on Ari's side in this. I've had 3 children and got emotional every single time. Pregnancy hormones, combined with delivery hormones (yes, they're different), and being in a foreign place without any friends or family (the "love of my life" didn't count-I wanted my mommy) is hard. Knowing what is going to happen, even being prepared for it, is not the same thing as actually going through it. There is really no way for first time mothers to be prepared for delivery. I went to birthing classes, watched all the YouTube videos, read the books...I STILL had an "oh shit, get me outta here NOW" moment during delivery. Went through my first pregnancy in a country that's really not that much different from the US, had my husband and In-laws there, but it was still scary. Whether you're in a but or an immaculate modern hospital, delivery is scary. It's one of the main reasons why biology almost immediately wipes our muscle memory of it. 

Not only was Ari getting ready to have an emergency C-section, but she'd just been told that her amniotic fluid was low and that it wasn't safe for the baby. That's tough to hear in its own right. Nobody wants to hear their baby could be in jeopardy.

I'm not a fan of Ariella. I don't like her. I don't think she's in love with Bini and I think she's only in Ethiopia because she thought someone would call her bluff. There was nothing wrong with her being upset, though. The real problem was that during her freakout the doctor couldn't do his job, but he was able to work around that and do general anesthesia instead. Her freaking out and not letting them do the spinal wasn't GOOD, but it's not like she's proven to be an emotionally healthy individual so far so it wasn't surprising. I think a lot of our opinions come from us just not liking her to begin with. If it were someone we liked...wait, IS there someone we like? 

I also sobbed at the emergency birth of my second son. I didn't care whether it was a "good look" or not. The last thing most of us care about during delivery is how we appear to strangers. They were literally pulling my daughter out of my stomach when I felt the pressure and started saying, "Nope! I don't wanna do it!" And I was 30.

[suzywallis]

17 hours ago, 7isBlue said:

Ari definitely created her own problems by insisting on moving to Somalia to have a baby. I have a feeling her parents went along with the idea, initially, sure that she would come to her senses. They were probably afraid that objecting to it would cause little Ari to dig in her heels, just to stick it to mom and dad. She was such a brat about it, that I don’t have a lot of sympathy for her right now. That said... 

Biniyam is ignorant and not ready to have even a pet lizard! I cannot believe that he’s spouting this crap about mothers being less loving or emotionally attached (whatever the hell he was trying to say) to children born via C-section! Really, a**hole? That is so insulting and condescending.

I will pray for this child, that he or she will be adopted by Grandma and Grandpa and shielded from the idiocy of these two. 

Yes, this!!!  That's the biggest load of BS!!!  I always liked him but he definitely soured in my opinion.

[Adeejay]

The wheels seem to be falling off Britney and Yazan’s relationship.  I am surprise that his family is just now seeing her pictorials; what with the worldwide web, not to mention his sister living in Chicago. 

Clearly, Ari and Bini didn’t communicate about how they want to raise their child.  Can’t help but wonder what they were talking about all this time.  At the end of the day, she is the mother, so ultimately, she is going to have the final say. 

It’s almost as if Tim and Melyza are competing to see who can hurt whom the most.  I think they should just call it quits, because there is no way this relationship is going to survive. 

Kenny should just step back and allow Armando and his family to work through things at their own pace.  It would be different if they were planning on moving to the U.S., but they are going to be four hours away.  Everything in due time.

Edited October 19, 2020 by Adeejay

[seasons]

On 10/17/2020 at 1:22 AM, renatae said:

Seriously. For a minute I thought she was going to suck it up, but noooo! Having been an L&D nurse, I'm generally extremely empathetic to women in labor, but I've never had a patient act so childish. I've had 16-year-olds who never carried on like this.

But She managed to get that awful pink lipstick on in time for the delivery. Ugh.

 

[Pondlass1]

The pink lipstick!  I was wondering about that. It was there before, during and after. Maybe the TLC makeup crew applied it before filming.
Congratulations to her and new baby.  I knew all would be okay as the cameras were allowed in delivery room.

I can’t watch Brittany segments. The gravel voice and stupid grin make me crazy. Same with the Columbian woman’s gritty  voice. What’s going on with women’s  voices these days? It’s like nails on a blackboard 

Edited October 19, 2020 by Pondlass1

[TwirlyGirly]

21 hours ago, 7isBlue said:

Biniyam is ignorant and not ready to have even a pet lizard! I cannot believe that he’s spouting this crap about mothers being less loving or emotionally attached (whatever the hell he was trying to say) to children born via C-section! Really, a**hole? That is so insulting and condescending.

When I was just 2 months pregnant with my daughter, I dropped by Barnes & Noble and bought 12 books, all on the subjects of pregnancy, childbirth, and parenting.

Over the course of the next 7 months, I read 11 of those books cover-to-cover.

The 12th book I threw in the trash.

Why? 

Well, I always knew if I ever had a baby, I'd have to have a C-section. That didn't ever bother me; I'd always been of the mind they could pull my baby out of my left nostril if that was the safest for both the baby and me.

But the very first chapter of this 12th book devoted itself to convincing women having a C-section would not only prevent mother/child bonding, but would also cause permanent psychological damage to the child; i.e., children born via C-section forever feel lost, are unable to establish boundaries, etc., etc..

Thank goodness I had enough common sense not to believe that crap, hence the reason I tossed it. (I sure as heck wasn't about to donate it and risk another woman possibly be taken in by it).

The point being, even though I don't recall the name of the book or its author, I do know it wasn't related to a particular religion or culture, and it was written by an American doctor.

So yeah, there are medical professionals in this country who actually believe this garbage - not just average citizens of some developing countries.

Edited October 19, 2020 by TwirlyGirly

[renatae]

So, let me get this straight. Melyza considered them broken up as soon as he went back to the States. So she wasn't really cheating on him. But when he cheated while he was back in the States, that was wrong and he was an awful person deserving of her eternal indifference. Okaaaay.

[Frozendiva]

There must be some added filler to make the show 2 hours long.

Deaven and Jihoon: You folks got a puppy for Dracula? Bam Bam? Poor dog. Deaven, you already had a lovely wedding. You and Jihoon don't have any money (i.e. a few thousand dollars) to spend on one right now. Marriage is a paper document and a social contract. Spend the cash on a house or apartment and throw a party for a few friends. Dress in a white dress, whatever.

Ariela and Bini: Welcome to the world, little one. Good luck to you. You are going to need it. Both parents have done almost nothing to prepare for the baby - crib, bath, diapers, clothes, blankets, onesies, personal care products for him like cream, powder, baby shampoo, etc. Guess Mom Ariela is supposed to bring a few crates of stuff with her.  Both of you are old enough to have a clue. Get to know Jr. while you can, Bini. Ariela may go home and dump him on her parents in order to continue her new adventures. And be grateful how your son came in to the world even if it is not the 'right' way you had hoped for.

Brittany and Yazan: the story keeps circling the braces. Waste of a trip to Chicago from Jordan to learn that the documents hadn't gone through. Uh, you didn't think about that before you went, Brittany. Did feel sorry for Yazan's dad firing him from his job and kicking him out of the house.

Chessestick and Mel: Call it quits. Leave the cat behind.

Kenny and Armando: I liked Truffles' bath. Kenny, you are old enough and hopefully mature enough to pull back and respect Armando's family. Armando was you 20 some years ago. His life is very different from yours, his circumstance is very different. Don't push, give him lots of space. In time, the family may or may not accept you. Armando's mother was kind and gracious to you. She wants her little boy to be happy. Her father is Conservative but he still made the effort he could make at the time. It will take time for him. And you have to live with the fact that he may not accept you except at the level where he wants Armando to be happy. You cannot promise Hannah that you will stay together forever. Life can throw a few curveballs. Armando has been pretty great on his journey so far.

[TrininisaScorp]

I'm so glad many of you are as irritated as I am about Baby's ridiculous (IMO) opinions about childbirth methods equating to the love a mother has for their kid.  That shit is cray!  Here is the messed up thing, though:  This isn't some random belief that Afro Christians have.  That belief probably has more origins as an import from the US.  A couple of people from my high school are born again Christians (different denominations, but protestants) who believe in being quiverful (creating an army for Christ through LOTS of kids), and they have mentioned trying to ensure Satan/damn doctors don't interfere with the birth plans.  These birth plans are very specific in that there are no c sections b/c the mother must suffer (I've heard all manner of things...for the original sin, to sacrifice for a healthy baby, etc) to be most right with their God.  I do not begrudge people their beliefs, but DAMN is that awful convenient way to once again screw and own women's bodies.  My heathen ass really struggles with the concept.  Also?  Fuck off, Binyam.  Poor lil Simba isn't going to have a moment's peace with these two pain in the asses b/c neither parent is a prize.  Ariella made a choice to have this baby in Ethiopia and now has to live with those consequences.  **shrug**

Speaking of couples slumming in mediocrity after a vacation hook up baby...Deavan and Jihoon are such a dysfunctional clusterfuck.  He is annoying and feckless, but she whines about everything.  You know what's smart to add to your messy ass house with a toddler and a small monster of a child?  A fucking puppy.  Jesus Christ.  What a mess they are!  The epitome of this is the rug scene.  So, he thinks the rug should be washed, but he certainly isn't going to do it, and she seems confused at the idea of cleaning a basic household furnishing, so she does it in the most half asses, ineffective way possible.  Nice.   Who is paying for the wedding?!  Libby's dad?

Yazan looks so rough!  Omg!  Meanwhile, Brittany is living it up in Chicago.  Yazan, run, fast and far from this girl.  

Armando and Kenny continue to be lovely and on a totally different, significantly better tv program.  Hannah is so cute!  My heart broke for splitting apart.  Small consolation:  I was about Hannah's age when we moved from Trinidad to America.  It was hard going from having 20+ first cousins around at any time, and tons of aunts/uncles/extended family to just mom/dad/I here in the States.  It was tough, but my parent moved to give me better and I had them and the New Kids on the Block.  Kids are resilient.  I ended up just fine, and so will Hannah. 

Meyleza and Cheesestick should not be together.  They seem to live to hurt each other with petty bullshit.  At the risk of falling into Friends territory, "we were on a break" doesn't cut it here.  They both kinda did something fucked up (but I think Cheesestick was worse).  Either learn to forgive and move on or break up.  The middling choice of staying together and strewing is tiresome. 

Edited October 19, 2020 by TrininisaScorp

[renatae]

18 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

My neighbor is due in December, she told me she is leaning toward a C section which seemed strange to me, she explained that most doctors will give the option of a C section even though there is nothing medically or any other issues that would require a C section...that seems strange to me...I figure the less they do to you during delivery the quicker you recover since they shove you out the door 12 minutes after you give birth.

You are correct! For a time, it was "fashionable" in some doctors' eyes to do C-sections for reasons of convenience. But this attitude is so wrong and so very dated! The less invasive you can be, the better for mom and baby. 

[1011101010001]

9 hours ago, magemaud said:

Her parents weren't scheduled to arrive until week 40, which I think was cutting it kind of close anyway. 

Nice c-section, umbilical cord, and circumcision triple pun.

[1011101010001]

1 hour ago, seasons said:

But She managed to get that awful pink lipstick on in time for the delivery. Ugh.

 

It looked like she had on brown nail polish in recovery.  

[1011101010001]

17 minutes ago, TrininisaScorp said:

I was about Hannah's age when we moved from Trinidad to America. 

I don’t know if you watch, but the first episode of The Amazing Race that aired last week was partially in Trinidad.

[magemaud]

9 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

 

9 hours ago, magemaud said:

Her parents weren't scheduled to arrive until week 40, which I think was cutting it kind of close anyway. 

Nice c-section, umbilical cord, and circumcision triple pun.

 

Purely unintentional on my part, but thank you, @MrBuhBye

Affectionately, your Forum Wife 

[endure]

On 10/16/2020 at 10:22 PM, renatae said:

Seriously. For a minute I thought she was going to suck it up, but noooo! Having been an L&D nurse, I'm generally extremely empathetic to women in labor, but I've never had a patient act so childish. I've had 16-year-olds who never carried on like this.

Really and it was totally her choice to give birth in Ethiopia, she is like a spoiled child, she seemed concerned for herself and not so much for her baby that was in danger.

[endure]

50 minutes ago, renatae said:

So, let me get this straight. Melyza considered them broken up as soon as he went back to the States. So she wasn't really cheating on him. But when he cheated while he was back in the States, that was wrong and he was an awful person deserving of her eternal indifference. Okaaaay.

It’s confusing 🤦🏼‍♀️

[mamadrama]

6 hours ago, suzywallis said:

Yes, this!!!  That's the biggest load of BS!!!  I always liked him but he definitely soured in my opinion.

I know a lot of people who think this, or think that if you're not delivering natural that you can't feel your delivery and can't bond. I was medicated up the wazoo (literally) and I still felt shit. I think being medicated helped me enjoy the process. Bottom line, there are incentives and drawbacks to everything. People need to just let people do themselves. Bini seems sweet but a little...dumb? Lol. Or something.

[1011101010001]

I think the timeline was that Melyza had lived in the US and dated Tim for several years when she was a student but then went back to Colombia.  She was going to move to Texas and live with Tim.  But before that happened he cheated with the co-worker.  Melyza comes to Texas and he confesses but things are tense and she decides to leave.  In her mind they have broken up.  After she returns to Colombia she dates other guys but Tim is still talking to her.  He offers to move there to try to work things out and she agrees.  It’s unclear whether she already has broken things off with the casual sex guy or she does that because Tim is moving there.  So she thinks what they did was apples and oranges because he clearly cheated on her while they were in a monogamous relationship whereas she dated around after they were no longer a couple.  But he thinks because they didn’t make crystal clear that they had broken up and she was still communicating with him that what she did was cheating.  

[magemaud]

So Armando’s father didn’t know about the engagement, right? 

[CrazyInAlabama]

One of the sisters seemed genuinely happy to see the baby in the hospital.   The others looked like they were ticked to be there.   I can't believe anyone thought it was appropriate to have a group visit on a woman who is barely out of anesthetic from her c-section.  And Bini should get a freaking clue about childbirth before he spouts that garbage about lack of bonding, and childbirth should be suffering.   

[mamadrama]

I can't believe that they'd basically done nothing to prepare for a baby and we're waiting on Mama to bring everything. A baby is technically due at 40 weeks, but they're full term at 38 and can come even before then. Dummies. 

[zillabreeze]

On 10/17/2020 at 12:13 PM, Mr. Miner said:

I hope at some point we get to see that smirk slapped off of Brittany’s face. 😡

She's got that Chantel teeth gritting thing going on and I'd love to see her catch a foul ball right in the kisser. 

Every week I have the same internal struggle- who is more stupider?  These morons? or me for wasting two hours watching them?

I've finally figured out that if I had to describe 90 Day to someone not familiar, it's this: Several Really Dumb people go shopping for mates on the  interwebs, pick someone from a completely foreign culture, then spend a whole season whining about the cultural differences.

 

[steff13]

I would like to have sympathy for Ari, but I can't.  She's a brat.  I get being scared, but her behavior was ridiculous.

I was waiting Melyza to shout, "we were on a break!"  They both just need to cut their losses. 

[snarkish]

7 hours ago, TrininisaScorp said:

Speaking of couples slumming in mediocrity after a vacation hook up baby...Deavan and Jihoon are such a dysfunctional clusterfuck.  He is annoying and feckless, but she whines about everything.  You know what's smart to add to your messy ass house with a toddler and a small monster of a child?  A fucking puppy.  Jesus Christ.

THIS!!! (BTW, I love your writing style, @TrininisaScorp!) So many couples that can't manage their small children think a kitten or a puppy is a good idea to add to the madness! 

So to add to the c-section banter, I had two (and 11 years apart from each other), and I told both OB's that I would do advertising on a billboard for them afterwards. In fact, I was scared to actually deliver vaginally. My second one went more smoothly than the first (as that one was planned ahead of time), but I still couldn't imagine a room full of company after surgery, especially after waking from general anesthesia. Although, after several hours in the recovery room, I did have both sets of grandparents, husband, and my eldest child in the room to meet baby. I actually felt pretty damn good, but I attest that to the spinal block followed by high dose Toradol. And, as far as bonding goes, both my kids were practically surgically attached to me (the 13 year old "baby" still is) so the whole "not bonding correctly" idea is horse shit.

Kenny continues to disappoint me. If you don't understand the word "hola" then you shouldn't even visit Mexico. I agree on the BS as he liked to brag about the amount of times he vacationed there, so, yeah. And again, team Truffles! I view their episodes now just to see that sweet old toot. 

Melyza and her Mom with their resting bitch faces! Each episode Melyza's eyelids are heavier and heavier (and the eyeliner is not helping). I have to say, Tim (to me) seems like an amicable oaf. He's done way more than these other idiots who don't bother learning language and customs. I think he'd do much better with a local gal and if the Latina look excites him, he's in Texas so a nice gal of Mexican descent, maybe?

I feel like Brittany should be hung by her ankles by her ridiculous wig. She's playing with fire and deserves consequences. And I visibly recoiled at her even holding that precious baby. Yazoo is an idiot but he doesn't deserve what she's doing to him, IMO. As for her annoying cringe/speak, my daughter speaks more clearly and moves her mouth better following an Orthodontic adjustment AND wearing her rubber bands. I think it's a horrible habit she inherited from her Dad. 

Glad for the Jenny/Smeeet break. I've been jonesing Indian food something awful anyway so that would have just added fuel to the curry-induced fire. 

[Baltimore Betty]

7 hours ago, renatae said:

You are correct! For a time, it was "fashionable" in some doctors' eyes to do C-sections for reasons of convenience. But this attitude is so wrong and so very dated! The less invasive you can be, the better for mom and baby. 

My neighbor is due in December so it must be the current thing, this is the same doctor that delivered my daughter 27 years ago, he is a wonderful doctor but he will be on vacation when she is due soooo....convenience for sure.

[Baltimore Betty]

5 minutes ago, snarkish said:

THIS!!! (BTW, I love your writing style, @TrininisaScorp!) So many couples that can't manage their small children think a kitten or a puppy is a good idea to add to the madness! 

I know!!! On top of all that mess of two kids in a small apartment and Deavan's lack of attention to an actual human (Drascilla)...that dog will not last long there, I do not see anyone making it a priority as far as walking and feeding aside from Jihoon if he leaves that apartment for any length of time.