qtpye July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Madding crowd said: I always thought Amelia and Bennett were completely fake and did the show as some kind of performance piece. I am disappointed about Ryan and Clara since I liked both of them and hoped they would make it. The Clara and Ryan breakup was extremely sudden, particularly, since they were planning a big vow renewal. I wish we knew more about what happened. Edited July 24, 2021 by qtpye 6 Link to comment
Kiss my mutt July 24, 2021 Share July 24, 2021 I think Ryan got cold feet, or maybe cold dick. 9 Link to comment
humbleopinion July 25, 2021 Share July 25, 2021 (edited) Good news MAFSers who have been hankering for the casting of losers/victims brides and grooms in the wild wild West (coast). https://mafscasting.castingcrane.com/ San Diego, CA is the location producers will be selecting from the (shallow) pool of the unlucky in love...no rock unturned, every IG (model) account scanned from the Socal land of unfit toys for Season 15 to be broadcast in 2022. Edited July 25, 2021 by humbleopinion 6 Link to comment
zenme July 26, 2021 Share July 26, 2021 Ok, so I’m just gonna go out on a limb here and speculate that the separation of Amelia and Bennett had to do with chores. I think Amelia was probably tired and didn’t do enough for Bennett’s liking. Who knows? I’m sad about it. I thought they were great for each other. I fear no one else will want to marry them. 1 2 Link to comment
qtpye July 26, 2021 Share July 26, 2021 39 minutes ago, zenme said: Ok, so I’m just gonna go out on a limb here and speculate that the separation of Amelia and Bennett had to do with chores. I think Amelia was probably tired and didn’t do enough for Bennett’s liking. Who knows? I’m sad about it. I thought they were great for each other. I fear no one else will want to marry them. I agree but probably going the opposite route. A medical residency is exhausting and probably has been made only worse by the Pandemic. Bennett probably was not doing much as a househusband. I know he had a job selling solar panels but I doubt that he got much traction with a job like that during these times. He might also just not have felt fulfilled in his role as a househusband Another reason might be that he just missed his NOLA peeps and did not take to the move well. He seemed very active in the artistic community there. Anyway, this divorce does make me sad...they really seemed like two peas in a pod. 8 Link to comment
Jeanne222 July 26, 2021 Share July 26, 2021 I think Bennett and Amelia were miles apart . She’s a doctor dealing with life and death situations. They are the upper class society. Bennett was a lot of fun but I don’t think he’d fit in with the country club group. He’s artsy fartsy. Two different worlds. 4 Link to comment
qtpye July 26, 2021 Share July 26, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jeanne222 said: I think Bennett and Amelia were miles apart . She’s a doctor dealing with life and death situations. They are the upper class society. Bennett was a lot of fun but I don’t think he’d fit in with the country club group. He’s artsy fartsy. Two different worlds. That's what you would think but both she and her family seemed to adore him. Edited July 26, 2021 by qtpye 4 Link to comment
Jeanne222 July 26, 2021 Share July 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, qtpye said: That's what you would think but both she and her family seemed to adore him. For the show but privately I can hear ‘really Amelia’! 3 1 Link to comment
Elizzikra July 26, 2021 Share July 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said: I think Bennett and Amelia were miles apart . She’s a doctor dealing with life and death situations. They are the upper class society. Bennett was a lot of fun but I don’t think he’d fit in with the country club group. He’s artsy fartsy. Two different worlds. Amelia didn't strike me as "country club" at all. She's going into family practice, which isn't particularly lucrative (though any doctor can earn a decent living; it's not a high paying speciality). If she has student loans, she won't be earning country club money for awhile. And she doesn't strike me as having that sort of personality at all... 6 Link to comment
gingerandcloves July 26, 2021 Share July 26, 2021 I don't get the impression that Amelia is "country club"...if you look at her IG, almost all her content is hiking, camping, swimming, hanging with her friends and family. No high society events. I don't know why they split, but maybe just the stress of the pandemic, and trying to balance being in two locations? She might be more of a free spirit, and he might be more of a homebody, if I had to guess. MAFSFan just posted that the honeymoons this season will be in the Florida Keys. And the Boston weddings were filmed this past weekend. 4 2 Link to comment
Empress1 July 26, 2021 Share July 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Jeanne222 said: Bennett was a lot of fun but I don’t think he’d fit in with the country club group. He’s artsy fartsy. Two different worlds. I feel like Bennett's mother was an academic? I didn't get the sense at all that Bennett and Amelia came from two drastically different socioeconomic backgrounds. Bennett may eschew the trappings of a middle-class lifestyle now, but that doesn't mean he's never had those trappings. 2 hours ago, Elizzikra said: Amelia didn't strike me as "country club" at all. She's going into family practice, which isn't particularly lucrative (though any doctor can earn a decent living; it's not a high paying speciality). If she has student loans, she won't be earning country club money for awhile. And she doesn't strike me as having that sort of personality at all... Me neither - she was as hippy-dippy as Bennett, although 1) I would guess she's had to temper that a bit at work - nobody has time for all that as a medical resident in a pandemic with surging cases, and 2) her crunchiness seemed more affected than Bennett's to me. I haven't seen their split confirmed anywhere (like, I have seen Erik and Virginia's divorce papers, I haven't seen Bennett's) but have read that Amelia dumped him without warning. Maybe she met someone else. Or maybe the strain of residency, which is stressful under the best of circumstances (and COVID is about the worst of circumstances), was too much for her to try to manage a new relationship. 7 Link to comment
LakeGal July 26, 2021 Share July 26, 2021 I always felt that Bennett was quirky. While Amelia just seemed to play at quirky. Once she was in her medical career she had to drop that quirkiness. 2 7 Link to comment
Jeanne222 July 26, 2021 Share July 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, LakeGal said: I always felt that Bennett was quirky. While Amelia just seemed to play at quirky. Once she was in her medical career she had to drop that quirkiness. Agreed she sometimes looked at him like WTH. lol. I think once she got into the professional environment Bennett kind of got lost. Heck maybe she met some doctor who could provide a proper home and experience for her. Actually I think Bennett would prefer somebody that loves the arts like he does. So we'll see once everything settles down. 3 Link to comment
zenme July 26, 2021 Share July 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Elizzikra said: Amelia didn't strike me as "country club" at all. She's going into family practice, which isn't particularly lucrative (though any doctor can earn a decent living; it's not a high paying speciality). If she has student loans, she won't be earning country club money for awhile. And she doesn't strike me as having that sort of personality at all... Amelia has armpit hair, for God’s sake. That doesn’t scram country club. 5 2 Link to comment
seacliffsal July 27, 2021 Share July 27, 2021 Although Amelia also doesn't seem to be "country club" to me, she does seem like she took on a persona that would get her noticed on reality t.v. (remember, she said she wanted to be on a reality show before starting her residency and that she would have made it work [for t.v. IMO] with whomever they paired her). Also, with her purposeful quirkiness, she needed two bridesmaids to help balance her on the unicycle she rode (so maybe not as experienced as she wanted us to believe). Therefore, more of her true personality (although I think she really was sincerely nice and fun) may have come out as she started settling into her career. Nevertheless, I wish them both well as I think they are kind people. 7 Link to comment
qtpye July 27, 2021 Share July 27, 2021 3 hours ago, seacliffsal said: Although Amelia also doesn't seem to be "country club" to me, she does seem like she took on a persona that would get her noticed on reality t.v. (remember, she said she wanted to be on a reality show before starting her residency and that she would have made it work [for t.v. IMO] with whomever they paired her). Also, with her purposeful quirkiness, she needed two bridesmaids to help balance her on the unicycle she rode (so maybe not as experienced as she wanted us to believe). Therefore, more of her true personality (although I think she really was sincerely nice and fun) may have come out as she started settling into her career. Nevertheless, I wish them both well as I think they are kind people. The one thing that puzzled me about Amelia is that she never had any constructive criticism for Bennett. When Bennett and Amelia sat down to talk, he said that he wished she was better about chores and clean up. She said he was perfect. I wonder how the Hell could you marry a stranger and then start living with them and not have one single issue? People who have known each other for years sometimes have some growing pains when they first start living together. 1 1 Link to comment
gingerandcloves July 27, 2021 Share July 27, 2021 4 hours ago, seacliffsal said: Although Amelia also doesn't seem to be "country club" to me, she does seem like she took on a persona that would get her noticed on reality t.v. (remember, she said she wanted to be on a reality show before starting her residency and that she would have made it work [for t.v. IMO] with whomever they paired her). Also, with her purposeful quirkiness, she needed two bridesmaids to help balance her on the unicycle she rode (so maybe not as experienced as she wanted us to believe). Therefore, more of her true personality (although I think she really was sincerely nice and fun) may have come out as she started settling into her career. Nevertheless, I wish them both well as I think they are kind people. Actually, it was one of her bridesmaids who rode the unicycle down the aisle, not Amelia herself. 2 Link to comment
seacliffsal July 27, 2021 Share July 27, 2021 Oops! Just goes to show that I really hardly remember these people after their seasons are over. I will have to stop myself from making comments about seasons that are not that fresh on my mind! Thanks for the correction (although it may show that even the bridesmaids wanted to appear "quirky" even though they really weren't...) 1 Link to comment
Yeah No July 28, 2021 Share July 28, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 3:49 PM, Empress1 said: I feel like Bennett's mother was an academic? I didn't get the sense at all that Bennett and Amelia came from two drastically different socioeconomic backgrounds. Bennett may eschew the trappings of a middle-class lifestyle now, but that doesn't mean he's never had those trappings. Me neither - she was as hippy-dippy as Bennett, although 1) I would guess she's had to temper that a bit at work - nobody has time for all that as a medical resident in a pandemic with surging cases, and 2) her crunchiness seemed more affected than Bennett's to me. I haven't seen their split confirmed anywhere (like, I have seen Erik and Virginia's divorce papers, I haven't seen Bennett's) but have read that Amelia dumped him without warning. Maybe she met someone else. Or maybe the strain of residency, which is stressful under the best of circumstances (and COVID is about the worst of circumstances), was too much for her to try to manage a new relationship. This is exactly how I'm seeing this situation, except I think it was too much for Bennett to manage the new relationship and that's why she dumped him and not the other way around. As we already know, residency is non-stop working, lots of stress, no sleep. It's no joke under normal circumstances but add the pandemic and it's probably over the top. He may not have been able to handle her being at work so much and unable to hang around with him like when the show was on the air. Plus when home she would be tired and not up for the kind of stuff they used to do together, and maybe he whined about that. But he should have known what he was getting into with her so I can't really blame her for that. I also think Bennett is too flighty to really be a support at home for someone in that situation. He was too involved with his peeps in NO and not ready to put some of that aside to be the total "house husband" Amelia needed him to be. I can just imagine that he was either away a lot or that she would come home to find him absorbed in his own stuff and growing tired of revolving around her schedule, which caused friction between them. 3 Link to comment
zenme July 28, 2021 Share July 28, 2021 If they’d have stayed in NOLA it would’ve worked. 1 Link to comment
Kiss my mutt July 28, 2021 Share July 28, 2021 (edited) Baby News for Jess and Austin! So sweet. Jess and Austin expecting baby from People magazine Edited July 28, 2021 by Kiss my mutt Q 19 Link to comment
Elizzikra July 29, 2021 Share July 29, 2021 18 hours ago, Crashcourse said: Awww...I'm so happy for them! Me too! I always liked them! 5 Link to comment
gingerandcloves July 30, 2021 Share July 30, 2021 I'm super happy for Jessica and Austin. I'm trying to get a feel for the couples by watching the previews although there's not a lot of real info. Ryan appears not to have an attraction to Brett, which I don't really get, I think she's way more attractive than he is, but I guess we'll see. He's kind of a sad sack. Rachel tells Jose that looks aren't important to her, it's all about personality and he's got that (nice backhanded compliment, Rachel.) Zack apparently tests positive for COVID on the honeymoon (whoops!) so he and Michaela can't even be together. Gil is unhappy when he hears about Myrla's spending habits. Also, it looks like at one point on the honeymoon, she takes off the wedding ring, and tells Gil that the ring is not going to work, it doesn't go with her personality (this girl is so freaking shallow). There are the usual previews of arguments, rings being removed, divorce mentions, all of which may be red herrings. 2 4 Link to comment
Yeah No July 30, 2021 Share July 30, 2021 5 hours ago, gingerandcloves said: I'm super happy for Jessica and Austin. I'm trying to get a feel for the couples by watching the previews although there's not a lot of real info. Ryan appears not to have an attraction to Brett, which I don't really get, I think she's way more attractive than he is, but I guess we'll see. He's kind of a sad sack. I actually think that would be predictable from Mr. 35 year old "serial dater". He's one of those that I'm sure has already passed over dozens of women going back decades, and I'm sure plenty of them were attractive, so why should he like anyone at this point? When the problem is YOU you have to fix YOU first before you can like anyone. That might not be the case with every single 35 year old guy, but it's probably true of him. 6 Link to comment
Elizzikra July 30, 2021 Share July 30, 2021 Quote Also, it looks like at one point on the honeymoon, she takes off the wedding ring, and tells Gil that the ring is not going to work, it doesn't go with her personality (this girl is so freaking shallow). Ugh. They used to show it - don't the spouses choose rings for one another? I guess I sort of get it - you don't want to have to wear a ring that you don't like for the rest of your life. But all of them seem to get rather small, innocuous wedding bands (I'm sure they are on a budget). If they stayed together (I don't see that happening), Gil could always bling things up for her later on. But to start off on the honeymoon, scoffing at the ring your spouse chose for you, seems to be entirely missing the point of MAFS. I don't think that Myrla wanted to get married. I think she wanted to be a bride. She wanted the ring (well, evidently not that particular ring) and the dress and all the trappings, but I don't think she really cares to make the marriage work. 9 Link to comment
gingerandcloves July 31, 2021 Share July 31, 2021 Myrla has her wedding dress listed for sale on a resale site. I'm thinking this is not a good sign for the marriage, but maybe she just wants to recoup some of the cost? 3 2 Link to comment
humbleopinion July 31, 2021 Share July 31, 2021 (edited) On 7/31/2021 at 10:36 AM, gingerandcloves said: Myrla has her wedding dress listed for sale on a resale site. I'm thinking this is not a good sign for the marriage, but maybe she just wants to recoup some of the cost? 5K $6490, a 29% discount from $9,100 (don't forget Harris County sales tax at 8.25% =$750 or half the budget given to each bride) stillwhite site https://heavy.com/entertainment/lifetime/married-at-first-sight-season-13-selling-wedding-dress/amp/ If MAFS production pays for $1500 and she gets her asking price then Myrla just had to pay out of pocket approximately $1870... Totally worth it to get the dress she wanted since she told the camera her dress was the only aspect of the wedding she cared about. Edited August 2, 2021 by humbleopinion 4 1 Link to comment
Retired at last July 31, 2021 Share July 31, 2021 Well, I guess that means that they don't just rent their gowns. I can't imagine Lifetime springing that much for the dresses, so maybe they get a certain dollar amount and the brides have to cover anything over that? I don't have a real source, other than someone posted that they saw on Reddit a note from one of Gil's groomsmen and when asked if they were still together, he said no and that she was horrible and that Gil was set up to fail. Sure didn't see that coming - said NO ONE. 4 1 5 Link to comment
gingerandcloves July 31, 2021 Share July 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Retired at last said: Well, I guess that means that they don't just rent their gowns. I can't imagine Lifetime springing that much for the dresses, so maybe they get a certain dollar amount and the brides have to cover anything over that? I don't have a real source, other than someone posted that they saw on Reddit a note from one of Gil's groomsmen and when asked if they were still together, he said no and that she was horrible and that Gil was set up to fail. Sure didn't see that coming - said NO ONE. Wow. Not surprised, but I'm guessing it doesn't end on an agreeable note for them. I imagine Gil will have an easy time finding dates after the show; Myrla not so much. Of course, I never thought anyone would want to date Katie after seeing her on this show, but hey, she's married now, so what do I know. 5 1 Link to comment
Starlight925 August 1, 2021 Share August 1, 2021 (edited) Even though this is in the Spoilers thread, I'm going to use a Spoiler tag, in case you really don't want to know this: Spoiler Bao and Johnny, our favorite couple, may have split up. Johnny was spotted on Bumble a couple of days ago, as a "Single". This has only been confirmed by someone who tweeted that she saw him on Bumble, but it could be his old Bumble profile still floating out there. I can't find any other info out there, so this is speculation at this point. Edited August 1, 2021 by Starlight925 3 Link to comment
Yeah No August 1, 2021 Share August 1, 2021 10 hours ago, gingerandcloves said: Myrla has her wedding dress listed for sale on a resale site. I'm thinking this is not a good sign for the marriage, but maybe she just wants to recoup some of the cost? Shock, surprise, NOT. I had a feeling they didn't work out after watching this week's Unfiltered. The look on her face and her careful wording of answers kind of gave it away. Although I pretty much already knew that they were a mismatch and probably a "no". 3 Link to comment
Blissfool August 1, 2021 Share August 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Retired at last said: Well, I guess that means that they don't just rent their gowns. I can't imagine Lifetime springing that much for the dresses, so maybe they get a certain dollar amount and the brides have to cover anything over that? I think it was MafsFan on Instagram who said that the show gives the brides $1500 to buy the dress. Any amount over is paid by the bride. 3 1 Link to comment
humbleopinion August 1, 2021 Share August 1, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, Starlight925 said: Even though this is in the Spoilers thread, I'm going to use a Spoiler tag, in case you really don't want to know this: Reveal spoiler Bao and Johnny, our favorite couple, may have split up. Johnny was spotted on Bumble a couple of days ago, as a "Single". This has only been confirmed by someone who tweeted that she saw him on Bumble, but it could be his old Bumble profile still floating out there. I can't find any other info out there, so this is speculation at this point. My cold dark heart turned a deeper shade of black and plunged into the depths of frigid. Why can’t we have nice things? This will be the hugest disappointment. Edited August 1, 2021 by humbleopinion 2 5 Link to comment
Yeah No August 1, 2021 Share August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, humbleopinion said: My cold dark heart turned a deeper shade of black and plunged into the depths of frigid. Why can’t we have nice things? This will be the hughest disappointment. I know, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he just forgot to take his profile down. 9 Link to comment
Starlight925 August 1, 2021 Share August 1, 2021 With any of the dating apps, you can delete them from your phone, but unless you actively delete your profile, it will still appear as active, and people can keep viewing/swiping, until you go in and disengage it. I'm sooooo hoping that's what happened here! I haven't found any more news since that last tidbit, so hoping it's an old glitch. 5 4 Link to comment
Ilovepie August 2, 2021 Share August 2, 2021 On 7/31/2021 at 1:25 PM, Retired at last said: I don't have a real source, other than someone posted that they saw on Reddit a note from one of Gil's groomsmen and when asked if they were still together, he said no and that she was horrible and that Gil was set up to fail. Sure didn't see that coming - said NO ONE. Boy you got that right! Set up to fail is the absolute perfect way to describe this. I truly think they have some formula that works out something like two matches for success, two horrible matches for drama and one that could go either way. They were intentionally set up to fail and it's so bad because it's ridiculously obvious. I won't be wasting my time on them. I feel sorry for Gil because he seems like a good guy and is obviously handsome. They could have found him someone who would appreciate that, but instead they do this. Shame on them and fuck those "experts" who have sold their soul to Lifetime TV and are lying on camera about how perfect these two are together. Myrla would have made a perfect candidate for Unmatchables Houston is more like it. 9 Link to comment
pdlinda August 2, 2021 Share August 2, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 9:48 AM, Elizzikra said: Amelia didn't strike me as "country club" at all. She's going into family practice, which isn't particularly lucrative (though any doctor can earn a decent living; it's not a high paying speciality). If she has student loans, she won't be earning country club money for awhile. And she doesn't strike me as having that sort of personality at all... I completely agree with you. I don't EVER see Ameliia being a member of some phony "country club" set. EVER!! I see her as a "social justice warrior" out to make her mark in community medicine and bonding first and foremost with her patients, not some pretentious colleagues in certain specialties who pull down a fortune of $$$$. HOWEVER, on the other hand, Amelia will always make a decent living (especially after repaying her probably massive student loans) and I believe there would be stress between her and Bennett regarding the disproportionate incomes between them. Not necessarily from HER side, but from HIS side. I believe he would always feel like an "also-ran" in their family and I don't believe he wanted to renounce the status and prestige he obviously enjoyed among the artsy set in NOLA most of whom thrive in a non-competitive environment money-wise. It really was a lifestyle type of mismatch. I'm not sure Bennett will ever choose to "marry" and accept the financial responsibilities that would certainly accrue to him, especially if and when children are born. 1 3 Link to comment
Jeanne222 August 2, 2021 Share August 2, 2021 Maybe Amelia, as smart as she is, went on the show to make $$ to pay on student loans. How much do they earn? Also are there any other benefits to being on the show? Bennett would be a bit of a hero in his artsy group building and living in his own home whereas in Amelias world not really noticeable except for quirky ness. Those two were cute together but lived in two worlds! 3 Link to comment
Empress1 August 3, 2021 Share August 3, 2021 17 hours ago, Jeanne222 said: Maybe Amelia, as smart as she is, went on the show to make $$ to pay on student loans. How much do they earn? Also are there any other benefits to being on the show? I don't think they earn very much because otherwise you'd have people just going on the show for the money. This article from last year says $1500 per episode; if there are 20 episodes, that's $30,000 for the season before taxes. That doesn't make much of a dent in the average medical resident's student loans. There was a point earlier on in the show's run when they were paying their own living expenses (they kept paying their rent or mortgage on the place they lived in before marriage, and they also had to find and pay for the new place with their new spouse), so they really weren't coming out that far ahead. I don't really see any reason to do this particular reality show if reality TV fame is what you're after. Seems like more trouble than it's worth. You don't tend to see or hear about the cast once the show ends, and they don't generally get "influencer famous." I guess you can do the couples cam show (which I don't watch), but that's assuming your relationship works out and most of them don't. I think you also have to pay your legal fees if you get divorced after the show ends (e.g. Clara and Ryan). 4 Link to comment
Elizzikra August 3, 2021 Share August 3, 2021 Quote Maybe Amelia, as smart as she is, went on the show to make $$ to pay on student loans. How much do they earn? Also are there any other benefits to being on the show? I think she went on it for a lark. She had some down time between finishing medical school and starting residency and I think she just figured it would be a QUIRKY thing to do. Because she's QUIRKY. 1 6 Link to comment
Crashcourse August 3, 2021 Share August 3, 2021 I also think both of them were cool enough so that if either one wanted a divorce, the other one wouldn't make a big fuss and they might even part as friends. 2 Link to comment
gingerandcloves August 4, 2021 Share August 4, 2021 MafsFan posted a photo from Bao's birthday party, which was at the end of April - it's got Johnny (yay!), Gil (no Myrla), and Michaela (no Zack!?) Not really spoilerish as they could be there and just not in the photo. 3 1 Link to comment
zenme August 4, 2021 Share August 4, 2021 If it’s a party then it’s not Myrla’s scene. I mean, if it’s fun, laughter, and celebration, then no Myrla. 10 1 Link to comment
Crashcourse August 4, 2021 Share August 4, 2021 I'm gonna give Myrla a break regarding the party. I think she was turned off by the raunchy stripper bachelorette party (I would be), but she might not have an issue with a regular party, like a birthday one. I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't there because she and Gil broke up though. 4 Link to comment
qtpye August 4, 2021 Share August 4, 2021 Just now, Crashcourse said: I'm gonna give Myrla a break regarding the party. I think she was turned off by the raunchy stripper bachelorette party (I would be), but she might not have an issue with a regular party, like a birthday one. I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't there because she and Gil broke up though. I have to say Myrla's friends seemed hella cool. Unless she just rented them for the show...there must be something there... She does not seem like a nice person but why would you pair a woman who on the first second of meeting you says that money is important to a seemingly kind man with a respectable but not extravagant salary? Poor Gil. 6 Link to comment
Kiss my mutt August 4, 2021 Share August 4, 2021 I know! I was like, how did Myrla get such cool friends? 2 Link to comment
gingerandcloves August 5, 2021 Share August 5, 2021 Ready for spoilers? According to MafsFan, none of the five couples are together as of now. She isn't sure what actually happened on Decision Day itself, but she's pretty confident that they are all currently splitsville. What a bummer. It's kind of hard to invest in this season knowing that there aren't going to be any successes. 1 Link to comment
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