S12.E02: Stooping to a Lower Level

[OnceSane]

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In the city, Tinsley defends herself to Sonja and Leah over her continuing feud with Dorinda; to celebrate the end of summer the ladies head out to Ramona's house in the Hamptons for a long weekend; Tinsley's flu leaves her voiceless.

Airs April 9, 2020.

[Straycat80]

I wonder how the Coronavirus is going to affect the filming of this show. 

[Sew Sumi]

1 minute ago, Straycat80 said:

I wonder how the Coronavirus is going to affect the filming of this show. 

They don't film until the end of summer, so I guess we have to wait and see. With NYC such a hotbed, it may take that long to approach normalcy there.

[Mindthinkr]

Ramona is baiting Lu by giving her the best room...with a privacy door for men coming and going. 

[WhoaWhoKnew]

I didn't know Luann still had her Hamptons house?

[FlyingEgret]

Just now, WhoaWhoKnew said:

I didn't know Luann still had her Hamptons house?

I don't remember it being so cute - good for her for keeping it!

[Mindthinkr]

11 hours ago, WhoaWhoKnew said:

I didn't know Luann still had her Hamptons house?

I believe it’s located in Sag Harbor  which I don’t think is considered part of the Hamptons. 

Edited April 10, 2020 by Mindthinkr
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[Mr. Miner]

I hope Tinsley cleared it with Dorinda before she went to China to get her dogs.

[Straycat80]

I don’t like the newbie but Dorinda is really being a bitch to her as well as to Tinsley who hasn’t even done anything to her. So what if Leah has tattoos. Such petty shit. 

[chewycandy]

Really lusty moment.

[Straycat80]

Lu is so entitled, she’s never happy with anything. I almost wish she had had to do jail time so she’d appreciate any room she was given as a guest. 
I love Ramona’s house. 

[Mr. Miner]

11 minutes ago, WhoaWhoKnew said:

I didn't know Luann still had her Hamptons house?

I wish she would go back to it right now. Still insufferable! 

[Emmeline]

7 minutes ago, chewycandy said:

Really lusty moment.

I do wonder why Tinsley hasn’t gotten that tattoo removed?  That train has sailed.

[Thumper]

Lu — always the same.  Never happy with her accommodations.  So it’s chilly down there?  You’ll only be sleeping there; grab an extra blanket! 

[Axie]

Luann is such an entitled, ungrateful bitch.  If she came to my house, I’d put her in a tent in the backyard and give her a pee jar.

[Emmeline]

16 minutes ago, WhoaWhoKnew said:

I didn't know Luann still had her Hamptons house?

I think she wanted to sell it but her kids didn’t want her to.  It was during that time the count stepped in for the kids to resolve the issue of their trust.

[JD5166]

That black sheer bucket hat is hideous.

 

 

Edited April 10, 2020 by JD5166
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[Hangin Out]

37 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

I wonder how the Coronavirus is going to affect the filming of this show. 

I think they filmed the present show lastOctober 2019, if that’s what you mean.

[Thumper]

I wonder if Ramona knew that her sweater/top was so sheer you can see her bra through it?

Typical Ramona complaining that no one picked up, so Tins and Leah end up doing it!  😄😄

[Steph J]

3 minutes ago, JD5166 said:

That black shear bucket hat is hideous.

For real.  If it weren't for royal weddings, it might be one of the ugliest hats I've ever seen.

[LibertarianSlut]

So, is Tinsley telling the truth about Scott, as she said in one point of the first scene, or is she withholding information, because Dorinda’s been a bitch?  Either one would be fine, but I wish I knew which version we were getting.  I thought an arrangement could be anything.  If Scott and Tinsley are not together, but still see each other and still communicate, and Tinsley is still upset about the break-up, that’s not an arrangement?  Does an “arrangement” have to involve cash and/or gifts?  I’m actually confused about this.

Ugh, kill me, I agree with Sonja about beautiful women and tattoos (and I think Kelly said it’s like putting a bumper sticker on a Bentley a few seasons ago, so kill me twice for agreeing with both of them). A tattoo of your own name on your lower back is...probably something Leah should definitely get removed.  

I hate when the women on these shows talk to their staff as if they’re their friends, the way Bethenny did all last season and Dorinda and Luann did in this episode.  Don’t they know how desperate it makes them look?  Their staff are being paid to be nice to them, and they’re a captive audience.  Why make them do more than their jobs?

Wow, Ramona ordering a Diet Coke with Lu and offering her the room with the private entrance?  I have never seen her this gracious.  What’s going on?  My hunch?  Ramona’s trying to “make it nice” for a new season.  It’s another renewal.  

Ramona’s property looks great.  I don’t love Luann’s house in Sag, the way I never loved her house in the city.  Too small to be aspirational.  Holy shit, Countess!  It was rude of Ramona to give you a basement?  She’s always been such a jealous bitch about Ramona’s property.  In season 10, when Ramona was so proud to reveal her redone Hamptons home, which was gorgeous, Luann was gossiping about it to someone else, saying “there was not a flower to be seen.”  Luann, your home is like 1,200 square feet.  Jealous much?

Dorinda’s hair looks like the Little Dutch Boy in her talking head.  She’s coming apart at the seams.  It’s probably a combo of alcohol and lack of funds.  

[Keywestclubkid]

Dorinda misses a man paying her bills....

[Mr. Miner]

Sonja’s dingbat act is really tired!

[Axie]

My niece is one of my favorite people in the world and she’s a tattoo artist, so, bite me Dorinda.

The new chick reminds me of Brownstone on RHBH.  The one with the 67 kids.  And, that’s not a compliment.

[SailorGirl]

6 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Dorinda misses a man paying her bills....

That's not what she said. She said she wishes she had someone to help ease the pressure and help her deal with what is a LOT of added stress from a major house reno. Its a lot for one person to deal with 100% on her own.

As someone who doesn't have anyone strong in her life and no family to lean on, and who has to do everything for myself, by myself, ALL THE TIME, it is mentally, emotionally, and physically draining. I get it, 100%. I internalize it, which isn't healthy at all. At least Dorinda gets it out -- the way she doesn't it isn't healthy, by attacking people, but at least she gets it out. I often wish there was someone in my life who could just take a little of it off of me and say, okay, you don't need to worry about this part of it, I've got it covered for you. It would be amazing. And a little unnerving because after a while, you can't imagine letting any of it go and having someone else help with it because you've gotten so used to it being all you, you can't let it go, even if you wanted to. 

It sucks. 

Edited April 10, 2020 by SailorGirl

[Keywestclubkid]

Just now, SailorGirl said:

That's not what she said. She said she wishes she had someone to help ease the pressure and help her deal with what is a LOT of added stress from a major house reno. Its a lot for one person to deal with 100% on your own.

As someone who doesn't have anyone strong in her life and no family to lean on, and has to do everything for myself, by myself, ALL THE TIME, it is mentally, emotionally, and physically draining. I get it, 100%. I internalize it, which isn't healthy at all. At least Dorinda gets it out -- the way she doesn't it isn't healthy, by attacking people, but at least she gets it out. 

I stand by my original post..... 

[FlyingEgret]

28 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

I hope Tinsley cleared it with Dorinda before she went to China to get her dogs.

I'm sure Dorinda assumes Scott paid for Tinsley's trip and the adorable pups

[Legalbeagle421]

Tattoo-gate is stupid. Who cares if Leah has tattoos. I never understand people who fixate on things that have nothing to do with them. Sometimes you can just leave your opinion, which you are entitled to, to yourself. This just seems like a silly hill to die on.

[WhoaWhoKnew]

Why do they all sound like they just got done screaming and chainsmoking with a congested nose for 24hrs straight?

[Hangin Out]

I don’t feel sorry for Dorinda.  She’s vicious with just about everyone.  If she’s worried about the house upstate, sell it.  Her tears don’t move me, sorry.  People have worse than old house problems.  Now she’s knocking Leah.  Oh goody!  I think Leah will be the one to kick Dorinda’s ass.  Dorinda has met her match, finally.  Let the games begin.

[Straycat80]

8 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

I think they filmed the present show lastOctober 2019, if that’s what you mean.

I was wondering about the future of filming this show. It seems they tape late summer to maybe late Fall. They probably will have to film the next season much later than usual. 

[Hangin Out]

Just now, Straycat80 said:

I was wondering about the future of filming this show. It seems they tape late summer to maybe late Fall. They probably will have to film the next season much later than usual. 

Yes .. I think you’re right.

[QQQQ]

These woman clutching their pearls over a few tattoos is ridiculous. 

[Straycat80]

Sonja is trying too hard to stay relevant. Lu is trying so hard not to drink.  I think Dorinda is also going thru the change and she isn’t helping her problems by drinking too much. 

[Mindthinkr]

Lu has been good at the beginning of dinner only because she is getting all the attention. Things will go downhill soon. 
 

 

[65mickey]

Uh oh Dorinda. is drinking martinis. Look out ladies.

[Mindthinkr]

I dislike Dorinda for the simple fact that she chews and talks with her mouth open. She finished her martini in no time flat. 

[Keywestclubkid]

I don’t shave my pussy ..... I’m sorry I spit out my water 

[TexasGal]

As soon as someone’s phone starting ringing at dinner, everyone knew it had to be Ramona right?  Unless you are waiting for some kind of emergency call, which you explain up front, my biggest pet peeve is someone messing with their phone when they are at dinner with other people.

[Axie]

Good night from the lower level!!!  HAHAHAHA!!!

[chewycandy]

Yes, Dorinda does like a good analogy.

Really, tattoos? The thought did cross my mind in all the years I’ve watched this show that none of them have them, save Tinsley having a visible one on her wrist. But to make their new cast member feel uncomfortable? IDK...It just shows their age. 

I’m here for Leah. She’s giving me Bethenny energy. 

Luann saying Leah was confident enough to order a mocktail was really interesting.

Ramona: “I have a lot of fucking friends!” Any scene with Coco just melts my heart. Those precious yellow bows! 

[Sun-Bun]

13 minutes ago, QQQQ said:

These woman clutching their pearls over a few tattoos is ridiculous. 

Seriously. Leah was correct when she mentioned that tattoos are now quite fashionable and no longer considered inappropriate, low-class nor socially unacceptable. Hate to say it, but the other ladies seemed like a bunch of typically out of touch Upper East Side old bags while they were sitting there ranting about tattoos, not even knowing what “tramp stamps” are(seriously?! This term has been around since at least the early aughts!).

I was secretly wishing Leah had fired back with a well-deserved comment of “Okay, boomer.”
 

So for once, Ramona appears to be off the hook and Dorinda is this season’s official designated bitch. It’s been a long time coming! 

Edited April 10, 2020 by Sun-Bun

[Mindthinkr]

Ramona may think she’s just being social (stopping at the bar to give her # to some guy, stopping by a table to say hello to her friend, answering her phone and messages at dinner), but she’s being rude to the people that she is allegedly entertaining in her home that weekend. 

[ancslove]

Ouch, Luann!  In her own way, I think Ramona was genuinely trying to make her happy with a nice, big, private space of her own.  

In other news, John built and runs his own very successful and well-regarded business.  Why does Dorinda not think he can help with a house renovation?

ETA:  Ramona tossing off that she can be social because she isn't an alcoholic was about 5 steps too far.  

Edited April 10, 2020 by ancslove
ETA a thought

[Emmeline]

I can understand Dorinda wanting someone to take care of her for a moment, I’ve been there too.  However, her being in a bad place does not mean she should be given a pass for treating people badly.  Perhaps her stress is making her drink more than usual and we all know how that turns out.

Edited April 10, 2020 by Emmeline

[LibertarianSlut]

I think it was interesting that Leah said she moved to Connecticut when she was 13?  I thought last episode she was born and raised in Chelsea.  And she was kicked out at 17, but went to an all-girls Catholic school on the Lower East Side?  The plot thickens.  At least she’s not saying she was “raised by wolves” (yet)!

Oh my God, Leah was having a shit time because her kid had a bad day at school?!?  This is going to be a long season if we’re bringing in Aviva-level sensitivity here (“I don’t need a Xanax; I just need my husband!!!”)

So Tinsley doesn’t know what “touché” means?  I totally expected it from Sonja to be rude and ungracious in someone else’s home to say something they said is wrong when it’s not, but I didn’t expect it from Tinsley.  

I didn’t know Tinsley’s ex-husband was named Robert Lee.  Is he from Richmond too?  I thought they met at boarding school, but I don’t know his origins. 

Oh my God, Ramona is so crazy!  She was so nice that I didn’t even recognize her, to just snapping and saying she doesn’t talk to people with tattoos and making other people clean her house.  Is she actually crazy?  I can’t account for this behavior, the way I’ve sort of been able to stitch it together in the past.  

Wow, I feel like there are going to be a lot of good fights this season between Tinsley, Sonja, Leah and Dorinda.  Especially if Leah stays sober and can step to Dorinda like that...this is literally the first time I’ve been excited about the new season.  Fighting about who said what about a tattoo and how others perceived it is why I watch.  The heavy drama of ghosts of former ex-fiancées pulling a Housewife toward death because she ate some miso soup may finally be a thing of the past.  

Why is Sonja so jealous of Ramona?  Because she divorced well aka she has clear running water in her pipes?

Does anyone know why Luann is pretending not to drink?  I thought she was pretty much counting down the days at the last reunion.  Who is she trying to impress, her kids, so they won’t sue her again?  

This was a cute episode.  I liked that the biggest problem in the end was Ramona being too social.  I loved that Leah seemed to be truly over the tramp stamp comment with Dorinda, and expressed the same to her at dinner.  They were keeping it light and moving, and next week looks amazing!!

[SweetieDarling]

32 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Dorinda misses a man paying her bills....

Do you think it's the money? I think she's missing someone doing all the "adulting" for her, like hiring contractors and dealing with insurance companies and budgets. 

 

Nevermind, I think you've already answered this.

Edited April 10, 2020 by SweetieDarling

[Hangin Out]

5 minutes ago, ancslove said:

Ouch, Luann!  In her own way, I think Ramona was genuinely trying to make her happy with a nice, big, private space of her own.  

In other news, John built and runs his own very successful and well-regarded business.  Why does Dorinda not think he can help with a house renovation?

Dorinda is putting on the water works because she was a bitch last week with Tinsley.  So she has to take care of renovations.  So what?  She owns a tremendous house and things happen.

[65mickey]

Maybe if Dorinda hadn't been nasty to the lady from last season, the one who owned a construction company, sorry I can't remember her name, she could have given her some advice on whom to hire and how to deal with contractors and insurance companies. Also agree that she could lean on John but then again she has treated him horribly at least on the show. I'm sure she makes him feel like he is not worthy to help with decisions regarding the mansion that the sainted Richard bought for her.  

[chewycandy]

Also...

self-defecating. 

storyboard. 

I am so glad they are back