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1 hour ago, KLovestoShop said:

Not only related, but practicing near incestuous relationships.  So much inter-marrying becomes nauseating

Yes!  That's the point I poorly (LOL) was trying to make.  Your wife is also your step-sister, step-mother, step-child, ex-daughter-in-law, etc etc etc all rolled in one.  I've always hated it.  

 

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14 hours ago, MissAlmond said:

wish all soaps long ago stopped the ridiculous practice whereupon almost every character is related in multiple ways.  Wife, co-parent, sister-in-law, step-mother, step-sister, step-child, cousin, and aunt!  It always drove me crazy, sort of makes my stomach turn, and frankly another reason why I gave soaps up.  

I can understand having maybe one core family or maybe 2, bit in hindsight most of these families were so damn huge. Like, Emma Synder had six kids, the Brooks family along with B&B's Forresters and Logans had four children each. I like having a bit of a family tree, bit the way they're headed,  they're starting to resemble straight branches 😐

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6 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

I can understand having maybe one core family or maybe 2, bit in hindsight most of these families were so damn huge. Like, Emma Synder had six kids, the Brooks family along with B&B's Forresters and Logans had four children each. I like having a bit of a family tree, bit the way they're headed,  they're starting to resemble straight branches 😐

And then you’ve got Carly Corinthos who is still having babies into her 50’s.  No problem.  

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15 hours ago, KLovestoShop said:

Not only related, but practicing near incestuous relationships.  So much inter-marrying becomes nauseating.  B&B is especially caught up in this. Haven’t the Logan girls married all the Forrester boys at one time or another?  

Or you know, actual incestuous relationships. Nothing will top Cricket and Scott still tongueing each other when she had a pretty good suspicion he was her brother. And she was right. So, all kinds of EWWWW to Cockroach.

Then there's all the storylines where they toyed with incest. Victoria/Cole.  Or Jill/Brock when Jill was believed to be Kay's daughter. Or Mac/Billy. 

Or even Devon having a big ol' crush on Lily. I know, not blood-related, but still. 

Just ick all the way around. 

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7 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

Like, Emma Synder had six kids,

Douglas Marland based the Snyder's on his own life growing up on a farm. He probably did have six siblings, thus so did the Snyder's.

7 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

the Brooks family along with B&B's Forresters and Logans had four children each.

And one of the four always seems to become an after thought.  I don't watch B&B to know which one that is, but Peggy Brooks certainly was the Forgotten Child on Y&R.  

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On 5/28/2020 at 5:30 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

was going to say something positive about Sheila and wish they'd bring her back for another reign of terror. But...then I remembered why I no longer like the actress who portrayed her. Nm. Maybe a recast.

Naw, I can't see anyone having that gravitas to pull her off, and they've done nearly everything they can with this character as it is. I'm good with retiring her, both here and on B&B.

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Someone who wasn't frumpy was Traci. She looked so beautiful and I loved her wedding gown and flowers. Even the 80s hair was working for her. Brad looks like he's a heartbeat away from auditioning for Chippendales but I'd see that show.

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Um, quit salivating over your brother-in-law, Ashley.

Elsewhere, a boozy Drinkki brough the dramaaaa with Jack.

Jack to Nikki: "You look tired and it's ageing you." TRUTH!

And damn, did she apply her makeup in the dark? Or was she planning to head to The Bayou after for old time's sake?

As an aside, can I just say that drunk Nikki and Neil hanging out at the dive bar and snarking on the denizens of GC was one of my favorite storylines?

Kay and Dina literally sharing the tea was amazing.

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And Jill's get-up, especially that hat, would have put the York princesses fascinators to shame. Loved her face when John chose to sit next to Dina after escorting Traci down the aisle.

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1 hour ago, CountryGirl said:

Brad looks like he's a heartbeat away from auditioning for Chippendales but I'd see that show.

Not far from the truth.  Remember when Don Diamont's opening credit was Brad removing his shirt? 

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59 minutes ago, MissAlmond said:

Not far from the truth.  Remember when Don Diamont's opening credit was Brad removing his shirt? 

As if I could forget? Those credits were featured in today’s episode. 

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My goodness, even Traci had that big hair.

So Nikki was already a drunk. Yeah, marrying Victor multiple times can do that to you. (Going wackadoodle like Ashley and Sharon is also an option. 🙄)

WHAT THE ACTUAL FCUK was Jill wearing? She looked like a 20th century court jester to me. Was she trying to upstage the bride?

Aw, Dina looking wistfully at John with Jill fussing over him. Guess ya shouldna run out on him and the kids, Dina.

What a pitiful wedding. Brad had no guests other than Victor, who for some reason was his best man. Huh? And Traci only had members of her family and their SOs.

Hah, the minister got his little dig in about how little the marriage vows really mean to these people. Over on B&B they don't even bother to have a minister perform the ceremony anymore. They just use the resident toady, who's also their lawyer so he handles their subsequent divorces and annulments too. 😒

Well, that was quite a nice toast Victor made to the newlyweds. He even sounded sincere and not like he was doing them a favor by gracing them with his presence.

Holy crap, Nikki was straight chugging that tumbler of vodka! Good thing Jack vamoosed her before she started taking off her clothes or doing something else drunkenly wild. 😯

Jack, you idiot. Nikki probably told the driver to take her to the closest bar instead of home.

Did MO record her intro and outro on her cell phone? The sound was not good. I think they should've dubbed it over before they aired it.

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Prime time shows have done the same thing for years.  

Could you name an example or two of when a prime time show has resorted to the doppelgänger plot? I can't think of any other than sci-fi, sitcoms, or nighttime soaps. TIA.

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1 hour ago, CountryGirl said:

As if I could forget? Those credits were featured in today’s episode. 

OMG the halfway “we’ll be back” title card looked like both were naked!!!  I think it was Ashley and Brad??  Either way.  He was shirtless and she must have had a strapless / backless dress on but was shown from the back so looked topless.  It actually made me laugh out loud today when I saw it.

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12 hours ago, geauxaway said:

And then you’ve got Carly Corinthos who is still having babies into her 50’s.  No problem.  

Yikes 😐 but then, this show had what I hope to God will be Brooke's final pregnancy just in 2014. Even if it didn't take, it was ridiculous.

11 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Nothing will top Cricket and Scott still tongueing each other when she had a pretty good suspicion he was her brother. And she was right. So, all kinds of EWWWW to Cockroach

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11 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Or even Devon having a big ol' crush on Lily. I know, not blood-related, but still. 

That story I do somewhat remember and I seem to remember Devon being into Lily before there was talk of his being adopted and once that happened, the show put the kabash on that.

Still skevvy, but not....whatever the fuck Cricket and Scott were. I'm a B&B viewer, you have to develop an iron stomach there to this sorta thing.

4 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Seeing thin Tracy, I suddenly remembered her. It was such a weird moment of recognition. I was like oooh, ok I totally remember her now.

Wait, this was back when Lauren was taunting her over her weight? I thought she was supposedly "fat" in the 80s as a teenager, bit she looks like a size 4 at the heaviest there. 😮

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Jill was channeling both Brenda Dickson and Fran Drescher. That was hilarious when the little balls on her hat poked John in the eye!  I'm not sure if that was intentional. Dina and Kay were totally believable as life-long friends.  Instead of the painfully depressing Alzheimer's story, they should have brought Dina back to fill the void Katherine left. 

Don't forget Dummer and Kyle dipping their toes in the almost-incest pool.  

The Sarah Smythe story was even dumber than I remember.  Rider was the only good thing to come from that.  They should have gone with the episode when Brad's nut-case ex Lisa locked him in a cage.  Sarah having plastic surgery to look like Lauren reminded me that Sheila had plastic surgery to look like Phyllis.  But when she re-surfaced in L.A. a few years ago on B&B, she looked like Sheila again.  Did she ask the plastic surgeon, "Un-Doppelgang me, Doc"?

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Dina and Kay were totally believable as life-long friends.  Instead of the painfully depressing Alzheimer's story, they should have brought Dina back to fill the void Katherine left.

Wouldn't that have been wonderful?

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Please catch me up.  Why was this the second marriage for Tracy and Brad?  Are Ashley and Brad hot for each other, and if so, why is he marrying Tracy?  Who was Brad married to when he was frozen in the lake?  

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Traci looked lovely. However, she seemed significantly older than Ashley and she's supposed to be the baby so I found it distracting. She had quite a few lines on her forehead and around her mouth. 

Jill's outfit made me laugh so hard. The hat was everything. Everything. 

Jack was kind of a dick to Nikki. On the other hand, it was nice seeing an assertive Jack. He's kind of a pushover now. 

Traci's bouquet was lovely. I wanted to wrestle it away from Jill, heh. 

And it was nice seeing Dina! It seems all the kids got along with her fine, Ashley included. Wonder why she had such an issue with Dina returning a few years ago?

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12 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Could you name an example or two of when a prime time show has resorted to the doppelgänger plot? I can't think of any other than sci-fi, sitcoms, or nighttime soaps. TIA.

I wasn't referring to any specific genre or long term plots.  I simply meant prime time shows in general have done doppelganger episodes when it suited their purposes. I do agree soap operas take it to a whole different level.

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8 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Wouldn't that have been wonderful?

I agree that bringing back Dina as an old school matriarch would have been great.  Not sure why the writers went the direction they did with her character.

8 hours ago, KLovestoShop said:

Please catch me up.  Why was this the second marriage for Tracy and Brad?  Are Ashley and Brad hot for each other, and if so, why is he marrying Tracy?  Who was Brad married to when he was frozen in the lake?  

I am not sure what happened during the first marriage.  But I think the storyline was that Brad was always attracted to Ashley even though he was married to Traci.  Brad and Ashley did get married eventually.  He wasn't married to anyone when he died, but in the several years preceding his death he was always sniffing around Sharon.  He had chased Sharon to the lake cabin and that's when he saved a drowning Noah and unfortunately drowned.

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13 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

What a pitiful wedding. Brad had no guests other than Victor, who for some reason was his best man. Huh?

Does anyone recall a dropped plot-line where Brad received a letter from his family, but hid it in a drawer? This was years before that George Kaplan thighs of steel nonsense.

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15 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

Jill was channeling both Brenda Dickson and Fran Drescher. That was hilarious when the little balls on her hat poked John in the eye!  I'm not sure if that was intentional. Dina and Kay were totally believable as life-long friends.  Instead of the painfully depressing Alzheimer's story, they should have brought Dina back to fill the void Katherine left. 

Don't forget Dummer and Kyle dipping their toes in the almost-incest pool.  

The Sarah Smythe story was even dumber than I remember.  Rider was the only good thing to come from that.  They should have gone with the episode when Brad's nut-case ex Lisa locked him in a cage.  Sarah having plastic surgery to look like Lauren reminded me that Sheila had plastic surgery to look like Phyllis.  But when she re-surfaced in L.A. a few years ago on B&B, she looked like Sheila again.  Did she ask the plastic surgeon, "Un-Doppelgang me, Doc"?

The Universe refused to allow that to stand.  One Phyllis is stretching it, two is taking the time continuum to its breaking point.  

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6 hours ago, MissAlmond said:

I do agree soap operas take it to a whole different level.

True that!  Eileen Davidson on DOOL, anyone?  That stuff was beyond cray!  I think there ended up being 4 total and she played all of them???  Ha!  Days was so fricking crazy for a while there back in the day.

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11 hours ago, jewel21 said:

Traci looked lovely. However, she seemed significantly older than Ashley and she's supposed to be the baby so I found it distracting.

Now after watching some of these older episodes I don’t see that there was ever a time that Traci looked (or acted) younger than Ashley.  It IS distracting.  And it’s only gotten worse due to Eileen’s incredible ability to NOT AGE!  

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45 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

True that!  Eileen Davidson on DOOL, anyone?  That stuff was beyond cray!  I think there ended up being 4 total and she played all of them???  Ha!  Days was so fricking crazy for a while there back in the day.

DOOL is still proudly carrying the crazy banner: personality-chip implants, mad doctors, and of course, lots of BFTD [back from the dead].

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54 minutes ago, pearlite said:

DOOL is still proudly carrying the crazy banner: personality-chip implants, mad doctors, and of course, lots of BFTD [back from the dead].

A whole island of them!  Ahhhhh poison donuts.  🤣.  
 

Sorry for being off topic.  But honestly, this is all making me laugh and I needed a laugh.  

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Oy, Steve might've gone kind of overboard with the spray tan. Whatever, Traci sure got the handsome guys. I think Cane actually would've been a come down for her. 😼

Geez, is there any woman in the Newman or Abbott families Brad didn't marry or date? If there ever was an STD outbreak he probably would've been Patient Zero. 🤕

I didn't know the coffeehouse ever had live music. And people had to drive out to the ranch to audition. Sure, Sharon. 😉

Nate called Malcolm "Dad"? What was that all about? Wasn't little Nate old enough to remember Nathan?

David Tom's Billy. Meh. Guess his big sis got him the job. Kinda creepy given that Billy and Victoria eventually ended up a couple.

So had Brad already been with Victoria by the time he started dating Nikki? He was so messy. Climbing the corporate ladder one well-placed vajayjay at a time.

NE had a pharmaceutical division. Good grief. I'm amazed they didn't have car division too.

What was Jill's deal with Mac at this time? Was it because Jill thought Mac and Billy were cousins or was it just Mac's magnetic personality? 😏

Back in the day there was a corner of the internet where posters referred to Olivia as "Black Barbie." Which I guess was actually in reference to the Christie doll, Mattel's attempt to seem woke before wokeness was a thing. Anyhoo, I was definitely getting a Mattel vibe from her today, lol.

Nikki would've been in her mid-40s at this point, right? What was the problem with her wanting to have another kid? Other than the stealing Victor's sperm deposit part, anyway. 🐟

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18 hours ago, KLovestoShop said:

Please catch me up.  Why was this the second marriage for Tracy and Brad?  Are Ashley and Brad hot for each other, and if so, why is he marrying Tracy?  Who was Brad married to when he was frozen in the lake?  

Brad Carlton long had a habit of chasing and marrying rich/influential/powerful women. His first marriage to teenage Lisa (Brad was a gardener for Lisa's family -- Sound familiar?) was annulled by her father, and Brad was run off. Lisa never let go or forgot about Brad Carlton's magical powers.

After Brad was hired as the Abbott family pool boy, and he had wooed and won Tracy (their first marriage), Brad was elevated to a more prestigious job at Jabot, to Jack's ire. Tracy went to California for school, and Brad was bored, starting an affair with Lauren Fenmore (Tracy's teenage nemesis, and another wealthy and powerful woman); Jack was suspicious of Brad's behavior and had Paul Williams investigate. Tracy returned, and to hold on to his good job and good fortune with Tracy, Brad agreed to impregnate Tracy to hang on to her; While in Cali, Tracy had fallen in love with her professor, Tim Sullivan. Jack was convinced by Ashley to not tell Tracy about the earlier marriage to Lisa (Brad conveniently didn't mention the marriage), the subsequent affair with Lauren.

In the mean time Lisa contacted Brad for help with a business matter, and convinced herself that he still loved her. She and her goons kidnapped Brad and took him to a mountain home, locking Brad in a cage (Sound familiar?) so she could relive their salad days as young lovers and their wedding day. Yes, Lisa is very delusional and krazy. Taped messages were created and sent to Lauren and Tracy that Brad was not in love, was leaving them and Genoa City 4Evah!

Weeks later, Tracy gives up, with ample convincing by John and Jack, and she files for divorce. Jack and Lauren go skiing, recognize Lisa, follow her to the mountain home and free Brad. Lisa disappears. 

Back in GC, Brad tries to win Tracy back (she's been told about the marriage to Lisa and affair with Lauren) by snuggling up to Ashley (she agrees to the ruse, but has angst in her pants for Brad; Brad seems to have an unforgettable golden Festivus pole in his pants). Essentially everything leading up to Tracy and Brad's second marriage has Ashley looming large over Tracy and Brad's relationship (such as it was) and inserting herself in their marriage. Divorce Number two from Tracy.

Brad was divorced from Ashley at the time of his death; Ashley suddenly and inexplicably divorced Brad to return to Victor and Brad done with being 2nd choice. He bequeathed a portion of his estate to his mother, and the rest was split between Colleen (as executor) and Abby. Brad didn't trust Ashley to administer his estate because of her irrational behavior to pursue a relationship with Victor.

Many women fell into the Brad Carlton vortex. Oddly, the only one he didn't want was Cassandra Rawlins though she hit all the requirements; beautiful, wealthy, seductive, conniving. And she ended up being the one that made Brad Carlton independently wealthy, not having to convince tail for job, money and security.  

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5 minutes ago, KLovestoShop said:

Wow, thanks so much for the retrospective.  It really helped. 
 

Ummmm, I wonder what kind of sparks would fly if the Golden Festivus Pole came into contact with The Golden Cooter?  

Universal entropy, KLoves. 

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23 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

Sarah having plastic surgery to look like Lauren reminded me that Sheila had plastic surgery to look like Phyllis.  But when she re-surfaced in L.A. a few years ago on B&B, she looked like Sheila again.  Did she ask the plastic surgeon, "Un-Doppelgang me, Doc"?

My own personal headcanon is that the timeline split after 2003 like JJ Abrams did with Star Trek and that there's just two different versions of Sheila. It's just easier to accept like that 😌

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I was so happy to see this episode today. It's been so long since we've seen Jack win. And he was so happy to be able to do that for his dad. And then seeing how overwhelmed and grateful John was. And then the hug...just a great memory. Nice to know that it actually happened, and wasn't just my imagination

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3 hours ago, KLovestoShop said:

Wow, thanks so much for the retrospective.  It really helped. 
 

Ummmm, I wonder what kind of sparks would fly if the Golden Festivus Pole came into contact with The Golden Cooter?  

What I wouldn't give to see Phyllis matched up with Frank Costanza -  and ButtBiscuit with Estelle.

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I’ve been rewatching OG Jill & John Abbott’s divorce on YouTube and it’s sooo good. BD, TL & JD are amazing. This was when the show was on fire. It’s the culmination of Bill Bells story of Jack & Jill sleeping together and John finally finding out. Good stuff. This is the retro stuff I want Y&R to be airing now. The background music has me on the edge of my seat. I saw this when it originally aired. I think it’s circa 1984-1985. It was a year or two after I graduated high school. Good times indeed.

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That was some soapy goodness right there. You had Lindsey, Jack's ex, taking pictures of them getting it on at the Abbott cabin (I mean, it was snowing outside and they had to stay warm/were bored, etc). 

And then she sold the pics to Kay who turned them into a puzzle and sent John the pieces, one by one, except IIRC, she held back on the pieces that showed Jack's face and Jill chose to throw that little tidbit in John's face.

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15 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

Lisa never let go or forgot about Brad Carlton's magical powers.

Heh. Heh. Heh. Seems Brad Carlton truly was too sexy for his shirt and the Ladies of Genoa City wanted a piece of that.  I won't judge. 😉

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1 hour ago, MissAlmond said:

Heh. Heh. Heh. Seems Brad Carlton truly was too sexy for his shirt and the Ladies of Genoa City wanted a piece of that.  I won't judge. 😉

Instead of killing Brad off, they should've found some way to just let him chill in LA like Lauren and Ashley 🤣

But still he's killing it as Bill on B&B and is often the only reason to tune into the funeral march that show turned into last year.

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Watching an old episode of Y and R and Michelle Stafford looks so much better with short blondish hair. It cuts her face from looking like a long horse face. I'm also getting sick of seeing all these people on television with the fake hair and long hair hanging all over.

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On 5/30/2020 at 1:58 PM, KLovestoShop said:

Well, Armageddon is finally here.  First it was COVID, then Kylie Jenner had the honor of being the first female billionaire pulled out from under her by Forbes magazine because she and momager Kris falsified everything about Kylie Kosmetics, and finally, a well respected journalist in our area has now written an editorial on Young and Restless.  He said that he had gotten into the show because of the lockdown and the fact that his wife has been a fan forever, but now with these drop in episodes, he just doesn’t get it.  He says, you have Isabella drowning  Cricket, but you don’t know how it turned out because CBS put on a different episode the next day.  He asked his wife if Cricket died and she said “Probably not because she’s on the show now”. Then they showed the yacht being blown up, so did Lauren survive?  If so, how?  Again, his wife said she did live because she’s still on.  He just didn’t get the whole trash compactor thing. He, like many of us, said why don’t they just pick a date and start showing episodes consecutively?  
 

His best comment was reserved for Victor.  He writes “Instead, the most interesting thing about the show is Victor’s unworldly accent, which has no known origin.  Why the hell does he talk like that?” 

 My husband doesn't watch it, but he has seen parts. And he always imitates Victor and the way he speaks.  That blustering bellow he does.  I laugh every time because  Eric  sounds so stupid when he does that.

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1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

Jill was great today.

That she was--I saw this one yesterday. And got through a fair bit of it without FF--who was the youngish guy she was having the Roman Spring of Mrs Stone interchange with?

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1 minute ago, pearlite said:

That she was--I saw this one yesterday. And got through a fair bit of it without FF--who was the youngish guy she was having the Roman Spring of Mrs Stone interchange with?

I don't know either but I'm pretty sure he doesn't slit her throat. Poor Mrs. Stone.

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I didn’t care for Tracy Bregman’s short do. It was too helmet like. It was good to see Eva Longoria. She was really good in the role. I also realized how short she is. Even Tracy towered over her. Both actresses were beautiful. Were we really that young? I want to go back. LOL!!!!

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18 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

I didn’t care for Tracy Bregman’s short do. It was too helmet like. It was good to see Eva Longoria. She was really good in the role. I also realized how short she is. Even Tracy towered over her. Both actresses were beautiful. Were we really that young? I want to go back. LOL!!!!

I feel the same way about Phyllis' hair. It looked stupid.

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On 5/30/2020 at 2:58 PM, KLovestoShop said:

Well, Armageddon is finally here.  First it was COVID, then Kylie Jenner had the honor of being the first female billionaire pulled out from under her by Forbes magazine because she and momager Kris falsified everything about Kylie Kosmetics, and finally, a well respected journalist in our area has now written an editorial on Young and Restless.  He said that he had gotten into the show because of the lockdown and the fact that his wife has been a fan forever, but now with these drop in episodes, he just doesn’t get it.  He says, you have Isabella drowning  Cricket, but you don’t know how it turned out because CBS put on a different episode the next day.  He asked his wife if Cricket died and she said “Probably not because she’s on the show now”. Then they showed the yacht being blown up, so did Lauren survive?  If so, how?  Again, his wife said she did live because she’s still on.  He just didn’t get the whole trash compactor thing. He, like many of us, said why don’t they just pick a date and start showing episodes consecutively?  
 

His best comment was reserved for Victor.  He writes “Instead, the most interesting thing about the show is Victor’s unworldly accent, which has no known origin.  Why the hell does he talk like that?” 

I completely agree with your husband.  When they were showing the Cricket and Lauren "murders" I wish they'd shown the next chronological episode so we could see what actually happened to them.  I mean, we know they survived but it would've been nice to see how...especially Lauren on that blown-up boat.

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