S04.E07: Who's Crying Now

[Leilani]

Part 1 is available on TLC

• Darcey & Tom finally meet face to face.
• Yolanda investigates Williams.
• Ed meets Rosemarie's family.
• Stephanie & Erika get crafty.
• Varya's mother questions Geoffrey.
• Avery & Ash take a romantic getaway.
• Lisa & Usman question their future.

Edited March 31, 2020 by Leilani

[mamadrama]

Okay, I thought the boob crafts looked like a hoot(er). I'd have done it. Not understanding Stephanie's pearl clutching. Half her videos are dedicated to her boobs...

Ed asking Rose to shave is rich. She ought to ask him to use real conditioner so that she doesn't have to walk around smelling rotten egg salad all day. She can barely hide her contempt and I am here for it.

For a mostly plastic looking blow up doll now, Darcey actually looked cute. The good news is that at the rate she's going Madame Tussauds won't have to invest in a statue-she'll mostly be wax by then anyway.

Tom's an ass. My husband is convinced that photo Tom and real Tom are two different people. You know he's gonna pull a "I really loved her and I went to NYC to make it work but she wouldn't..." 

Usman is no dummy. He's seen the light. I hope he gets out soon. She is horrid. 

[Kareem]

Listening to BibbyLuv at “the Chalet”, and in general really, and seeing her on the chair in the tan top made me think no one could possibly want to get to the States that badly.  

Hellmanns Head continues to repulse me as well. Everything he says is gross. That straggly hair is gross. Asking her to shave? The feet, the kiss, those beady eyes, his THs...  I would pay for him to just go home and leave that poor girl alone. 

These two make me queasy.  

I thought Darcey was looking less empowered and more on the verge of something serious while with Tom. He continues to be a toolbag so no surprise there.  So strange the way he just stared at her without speaking when they first sat down to their painfully awkward meeting.  

 

[monagatuna]

10 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Okay, I thought the boob crafts looked like a hoot(er). I'd have done it. Not understanding Stephanie's pearl clutching. Half her videos are dedicated to her boobs...

What is the craft? (I prefer to watch the whole show at once so I haven't seen the first half.) Like finger painting, but with boobs? I've seen something similar, where you spread a canvas on the floor and have sex on it, then get it stretched and hang it, but I doubt that's what they were doing. That seems like a bit much, even for TLC.

[Lily247]

1 hour ago, monagatuna said:

What is the craft? (I prefer to watch the whole show at once so I haven't seen the first half.) Like finger painting, but with boobs? I've seen something similar, where you spread a canvas on the floor and have sex on it, then get it stretched and hang it, but I doubt that's what they were doing. That seems like a bit much, even for TLC.

they took off their tops, made plaster molds of each others boobs  then painted the molds. 

everything with Stephanie and Erica is designed to garner ratings under the premise of "lesbian action" so to speak. Everything they do looks like we are about to see soft core lesbian porn and I believe producers intended that

Edited March 31, 2020 by Lily247

[monagatuna]

Just now, Lily247 said:

they took off their tops, made plaster molds of each others boobs  then painted the molds

Oh, that's adorable! Way more fun than the idea of booby-finger-painting.

[Kid]

13 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Usman is no dummy. He's seen the light. I hope he gets out soon. She is horrid. 

Amen, Sister!!!!   Run, Usman, run!!

[humbleopinion]

5 hours ago, Lily247 said:

they took off their tops, made plaster molds of each others boobs  then painted the molds.

Anybody remember the "Everybody Loves Raymond" episode where Doris sculpted her lady bits and no one had the guts to tell her......how do you integrate your "fun bags art" into the decor of your home....next to the fridge's beverage and water dispenser?

Or in these Covid times...

The boobs as a place to hang wet sanitized N95 masks to dry and maintain their shape as the solution evaporates...one mask per boob...

Edited March 31, 2020 by humbleopinion

[Kroliosis]

17 hours ago, mamadrama said:

My husband is convinced that photo Tom and real Tom are two different people. 

I agree with your husband!!

[Lily247]

I also think that just because Stephanie shows off her sexuality on her blog, Erica should have run it by her first if she wanted to do naked booby molds rather than put her on the spot. Im not in the mood to disrobe in public at a moments notice either. 

 Theyve only seen each other in person for 2 days ... I mean ...I remember when I was dating, if I wished to move things slowly physically in the beginning, that was generally regarded with respect by the person I was dating. Just because they are both women, it doesnt mean that cant apply. 

Edited March 31, 2020 by Lily247

[Christina]

Ed: My Queen

Rose: I am your Queen?

Ed: Yes. And I am?

Rose: Your Queen?

HAHAHAHA. 

[Kyanight]

2 hours ago, Lily247 said:

I also think that just because Stephanie shows off her sexuality on her blog, Erica should have run it by her first if she wanted to do naked booby molds rather than put her on the spot. Im not in the mood to disrobe in public at a moments notice either. 

By a show of hands.... how many people would want to do this on the equivalent of a second date  - gay OR straight?  (Counting the Aussie petting zoo as the first).   Meh.  Not my cup of tea.

[monagatuna]

53 minutes ago, Kyanight said:

By a show of hands.... how many people would want to do this on the equivalent of a second date  - gay OR straight?  (Counting the Aussie petting zoo as the first).   Meh.  Not my cup of tea.

I wouldn't, but (and this is not fair) I admit it's a lot more palatable coming from a woman than a man.

[mamadrama]

1 hour ago, Kyanight said:

By a show of hands.... how many people would want to do this on the equivalent of a second date  - gay OR straight?  (Counting the Aussie petting zoo as the first).   Meh.  Not my cup of tea.

In real life? No. In the fake world of 90 Day Fiance where things are either embellished, exaggerated, recreated, or made up altogether by people who probably aren't really even dating? Not even in the top 5 of the weirdest things that have happened. 

Edited April 1, 2020 by mamadrama

[Kiss my mutt]

Maybe on the third, but second? What kinda girl I look like?

[xls]

21 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Okay, I thought the boob crafts looked like a hoot(er). I'd have done it. Not understanding Stephanie's pearl clutching. Half her videos are dedicated to her boobs...

 

Steph is about as bisexual as Tim is straight. 😏

[Dahlia]

The best part of the ‘bi crap story line’ is the program goes so by much faster as I FF thru it 😁

 

[Kiss my mutt]

Ed just comes across as her pervy uncle. If I saw my future in that guy I would cry myself to sleep every night and then asking her to shave her legs in the preview. 
Yesh, how bout you lose 100 lbs, stop putting crisco in your hair and grow a neck. What a troll. 
 

Patrick not having the decency to stop and get her mother something? And then laughing it off? I hope her mother tells him to fuck off. 
 

And Stephanie thinking she gets to call all the shots. Glad Ericka pushed back on that. She needs to stop playing bi and go be sexual at a distance on her channel. She’s one entitled princess

Edited April 1, 2020 by Kiss my mutt

[mamadrama]

After doing some research, I am pretty sure that Usman and Belly Guhl Visa are staying at the Shukura Coral Hotel in Sokoto. It has a decent looking gym, a restaurant, security (important for that region), free WiFi (which is NOT a given there), television, and ensuite rooms (also not a given). It charges around 11,500 a night for a chalet (kind of like a suite that's separate from the main body). With today's exchange rate that is approximately $29. They have more expensive rooms but there's not a huge difference. There are a few other area hotels, but they appear to be of similar quality. 

 

[mamadrama]

No idea why that posted twice...

 

Edited April 1, 2020 by mamadrama
website shenanigans

[mamadrama]

Also, regarding the boob mold date...Stephanie makes a point of saying that her online videos are very "sexual." This isn't a spoiler, she says this in the episode. After doing my homework, I concur. Although the crafting date was probably producer driven since they seem gung go at presenting this couple in a sexual way, I could see why Erika might have thought Stephanie would get a kick out of it. It wasn't a "we're all gonna disrobe one another and sensously massage each other's breasts while we suck on chocolate covered strawberries" kind of deal. It was weird and colorful and funny. It fits into the things that Stephanie has already referenced. 

I think that, ultimately, there's no drama with this couple so they're doing their best to create it for the show. They must've drawn the "one won't have sex" card out of the hat, which was probably just as well anyway since I don't think they're really a couple. 

[Texasmom1970]

At the club I think people were not shocked Baby guurl Lisa was white. When he said baby girl they expected someone who didn’t look old enough to be his grandmother.

If I were Rosemarie I would tell Ed I was having my period for a couple years until she can get her visa.

David, seriously, his toupee must be hindering his blood supply to his brain. For as much money he says he has invested he surely could find someone local. His problem is he needs to look more in his age range and keep his expectations realistic.

 

[DEL901]

8 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Patrick not having the decency to stop and get her mother something? And then laughing it off? I hope her mother tells him to fuck off

And I think those side of the road weeds are almost worse than nothing.  

[Colfrmb2]

With little Ed, every time he tells/asks RM “do this” or “do that” and “you like?” So manipulative. I feel like he is building his alibi for when she decides to start talking about how gross he is.  He can say, “she said she liked it.”  He already said she liked his long hair.  Right.  Ed is not Fabio!  Whatever happened to Fabio?

Edited April 1, 2020 by Colfrmb2

[mamadrama]

I think it's weird that Big Ed, or anyone, would try to be lovey dovey and erotic like that with a film crew in the room. That's just weird. I also feel like that's WHY he was doing those things. All for show. 

I HATE that little condescending sneer David was giving Anya when she was gently trying to tell him that he was being raked over the coals. He wore that same sneer when his friends were giving him the same convo. There's something up with him. I refuse to believe anyone is THAT stupid. It's more than just being stupid, actually. He's going out of his way to be nuts. 

So Lisa HAS to be bankrolling Usman's "career", right? Because what she has is more than just entitlement. I was glad to see him finally standing up for himself. And like any bully, once he started fighting back she couldn't take it. 

Yolanda calling The Williams' accent "British" with a straight face....

Edited April 2, 2020 by mamadrama
Mixed up names, which is nothing compared to crap these losers have done

[Colfrmb2]

Speaking of Lisa bank rolling Usman... Now I wonder if she’s writing it off as a donation to a third world charity “soldier boys”, the impoverished youth of Nigeria...  I imagine a check for $100 a month would mean a lot over there and she might feel like he owes her.  She does seem stunningly opinionated, smug and determined to hijack his career.  Like the seedy business man in the strip club lifting his shot glass to the dancer on the pole after she shimmies in his face in exchange for a $20 - every afternoon. Yuck.

Edited April 1, 2020 by Colfrmb2

[Kiss my mutt]

What does Lisa do for a living that she has money to sink into Usman’s ill fated music career. Hope that wasn’t her retirement fund. 

[humbleopinion]

BGL is a hospice caregiver.

4 years prior to SJB she left an abusive marriage who cheated.

BGL has a 15 year old daughter who gets to welcome a stepDaddy  into their home with money diverted for his K1 Visa...

[mixedmartialmom]

4 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I think it's weird that Big Ed, or anyone, would try to be lovey dovey and erotic like that with a film crew in the room. That's just weird. I also feel like that's WHY he was doing those things. All for show. 

I HATE that little condescending sneer Geoffrey was giving Anya when she was gently trying to tell him that he was being raked over the coals. He wore that same sneer when his friends were giving him the same convo. There's something up with him. I refuse to believe anyone is THAT stupid. It's more than just being stupid, actually. He's going out of his way to be nuts. 

So Lisa HAS to be bankrolling Usman's "career", right? Because what she has is more than just entitlement. I was glad to see him finally standing up for himself. And like any bully, once he started fighting back she couldn't take it. 

Yolanda calling The Williams' accent "British" with a straight face....

You mean David, who is in the Ukraine, talking with his former online gf/now platonic friend Anya, while he's being catfished by Lana.

Geoffrey is in Russia with Varya.

54 minutes ago, humbleopinion said:

BGL is a hospice caregiver.

4 years prior to SJB she left an abusive marriage who cheated.

BGL has a 15 year old daughter who gets to welcome a stepDaddy  into their home with money diverted for his K1 Visa...

So, Lisa makes $12-$15/hr if she works for an agency, and the hours are sporadic at best.

[Kangatush]

Geoffrey is an idiot.  I take a gift when I meet parents, even if it's of a friend, not a romantic interest.  And I'm a girl.  Hostess gifts are real.

Is Darcey drunk?

I hate people touching my feet.  And I'd be super creeped out if a dude, I hadn't even kissed, massaged my feet.

 

[Meowwww]

2 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

BGL is a hospice caregiver.

4 years prior to SJB she left an abusive marriage who cheated.

BGL has a 15 year old daughter who gets to welcome a stepDaddy  into their home with money diverted for his K1 Visa...

Yeahbut.....

who was the abuser? 

[Lily247]

15 minutes ago, Kangatush said:

Geoffrey is an idiot.  I take a gift when I meet parents, even if it's of a friend, not a romantic interest.  And I'm a girl.  Hostess gifts are real.

Is Darcey drunk?

I hate people touching my feet.  And I'd be super creeped out if a dude, I hadn't even kissed, massaged my feet.

 

The entire time Geoffrey has been with Varya, he hasnt shown an iota of charm towards her. Rude, doesnt know how to compliment her, blows up at her friends, putting his ex gf brush in her face, wanting to gift her mother with some dirty pulled flowers from the side of the road, never smile .....

[Kangatush]

Ash needs looser jeggings.  And it's not canes, it's carns.  

[kendi]

I couldn't even watch Ed and RM's segment. It made me so cringey with him trying to woo her. I had to fast forward... couldn't even listen to it. 

Yay for Usman, telling Lisa she is not God. She is a miserable and demanding person and damn straight he was right, constantly having to apologize for every little thing. 

[humbleopinion]

12 minutes ago, Meowwww said:

Yeahbut.....

who was the abuser? 

Most likely both but we only get one side of the story.

 

[Mr. Miner]

3 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

What does Lisa do for a living that she has money to sink into Usman’s ill fated music career. Hope that wasn’t her retirement fund. 

Apparently she doesn’t have enough money to buy new luggage. She had two grungy suitcases that were 50 years old.

[humbleopinion]

30 minutes ago, Kangatush said:

Geoffrey is an idiot.  I take a gift when I meet parents, even if it's of a friend, not a romantic interest.  And I'm a girl.  Hostess gifts are real.

Agreed.

What complete lack of manners to take NOTHING when meeting the parents...at the least flowers for the mother, bottle of hooch for the father, favorite treat dessert, box of chocolates for the family to enjoy.

Even when a poor college student you went to Trader Joes to buy a bouquet of flowers and/or a box of candy to show your appreciation for being invited into someone's home...

Geoffrey is from Knoxville and he should have cordial manners if he was reared properly before he became a drug dealer and sent to the Big House.

[Mr. Miner]

19 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Ed just comes across as her pervy uncle. If I saw my future in that guy I would cry myself to sleep every night and then asking her to shave her legs in the preview. 
Yesh, how bout you lose 100 lbs, stop putting crisco in your hair and grow a neck. What a troll. 
 

 

Not only is he a skeevy troll, he’s a dork that says stupid shit daily.

[humbleopinion]

6 hours ago, Colfrmb2 said:

Whatever happened to Fabio?

In these Covid times...did a little reading about the infamous Fabio.

He is 61 years young, no longer models but shills a protein drink.

He bought 500 acres of woodlands in Washington State with his modeling and I can't Believe It's Butter money

He made 150K (1980's money) per romance novel cover.

A swing and a miss with marriage in the 80's.

No children.

He owns 225 dirtbikes.

Still has his flowing locks...

[itsadryheat]

If I was Ed's family I would be horrified. Poor daughter. Hopefully she isn't watching her creep of a father abuse, disrespect RM.

[Kangatush]

31 minutes ago, humbleopinion said:

In these Covid times...did a little reading about the infamous Fabio.

He is 61 years young, no longer models but shills a protein drink.

He bought 500 acres of woodlands in Washington State with his modeling and I can't Believe It's Butter money

He made 150K (1980's money) per romance novel cover.

A swing and a miss with marriage in the 80's.

No children.

He owns 225 dirtbikes.

Still has his flowing locks...

And hit in the face by a goose while riding a roller coaster.

Dear Ed, comparing any part of Rose to any part of you is not the way to ask for something.

[AZChristian]

56 minutes ago, humbleopinion said:

What complete lack of manners to take NOTHING when meeting the parents...at the least flowers for the mother, bottle of hooch for the father, favorite treat dessert, box of chocolates for the family to enjoy.

Even when a poor college student you went to Trader Joes to buy a bouquet of flowers and/or a box of candy to show your appreciation for being invited into someone's home...

Geoffrey is from Knoxville and he should have cordial manners if he was reared properly before he became a drug dealer and sent to the Big House.

In today's world situation, toilet paper is always a welcome hostess gift.

[humbleopinion]

13 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

In today's world situation, toilet paper is always a welcome hostess gift.

Otherwise known as stationary in federal prison...

[RealReality]

17 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Also, regarding the boob mold date...Stephanie makes a point of saying that her online videos are very "sexual." This isn't a spoiler, she says this in the episode. After doing my homework, I concur. Although the crafting date was probably producer driven since they seem gung go at presenting this couple in a sexual way, I could see why Erika might have thought Stephanie would get a kick out of it. It wasn't a "we're all gonna disrobe one another and sensously massage each other's breasts while we suck on chocolate covered strawberries" kind of deal. It was weird and colorful and funny. It fits into the things that Stephanie has already referenced. 

I think that, ultimately, there's no drama with this couple so they're doing their best to create it for the show. They must've drawn the "one won't have sex" card out of the hat, which was probably just as well anyway since I don't think they're really a couple. 

I also think that, quite often,in these new style internet relationships they may have a lot of sexual fantasy talk or Skype sex or whatever.  And "when I first meet you I'm gonna......." And "when you do that I'm gonna.....all over you!". Etc, etc. 

I could see how that could make one party think they are real plans (see - candy panties) whereas the other person only sees them as an abstract fantasy. 

1 hour ago, humbleopinion said:

In these Covid times...did a little reading about the infamous Fabio.

He is 61 years young, no longer models but shills a protein drink.

He bought 500 acres of woodlands in Washington State with his modeling and I can't Believe It's Butter money

He made 150K (1980's money) per romance novel cover.

A swing and a miss with marriage in the 80's.

No children.

He owns 225 dirtbikes.

Still has his flowing locks...

He was corny as heck, but I love that he always seemed to have a sense of humor about himself and never took himself too seriously or demanded that he be taken seriously.  

I have the same feelings about Susan Lucci and dolly Parton. 

[Kyanight]

59 minutes ago, Kangatush said:

Dear Ed, comparing any part of Rose to any part of you is not the way to ask for something.

LOL!!  Right?   "Rose - your legs are as hairy as mine are!  Please shave.  Let's boink!"

[mamadrama]

5 hours ago, mixedmartialmom said:

You mean David, who is in the Ukraine, talking with his former online gf/now platonic friend Anya, while he's being catfished by Lana.

Geoffrey is in Russia with Varya

Yes, I know that. I think you knew who I meant,  but does it REALLY matter? All these assholes start running together after awhile. They may as well be named Caesavidmichaeleffrey 

Edited April 2, 2020 by mamadrama

[Spike]

On 3/31/2020 at 1:33 PM, humbleopinion said:

Anybody remember the "Everybody Loves Raymond" episode where Doris sculpted her lady bits and no one had the guts to tell her......how do you integrate your "fun bags art" into the decor of your home....next to the fridge's beverage and water dispenser?

Or in these Covid times...

The boobs as a place to hang wet sanitized N95 masks to dry and maintain their shape as the solution evaporates...one mask per boob...

The owner called boobs your most intimate place?  Um?

[Spike]

4 hours ago, Kangatush said:

Ash needs looser jeggings.  And it's not canes, it's carns.  

Yeah and he is one of those guys who skips leg days.  You can’t do that unless you want to resemble Woodstock.

[Kangatush]

6 minutes ago, Spike said:

The owner called boobs your most intimate place?  Um?

I caught that too.

[Spike]

4 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

In these Covid times...did a little reading about the infamous Fabio.

He is 61 years young, no longer models but shills a protein drink.

He bought 500 acres of woodlands in Washington State with his modeling and I can't Believe It's Butter money

He made 150K (1980's money) per romance novel cover.

A swing and a miss with marriage in the 80's.

No children.

He owns 225 dirtbikes.

Still has his flowing locks...

Even Michael Bolton cut his hair.  Not sure about Kenny G.

3 hours ago, RealReality said:

And "when you do that I'm gonna.....all over you!"

Oh dear.