Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[seasons]

Wow that was a great close up of Michael's confused face when Dante told them Peter was dead. Lol. 🤔

[rur]

55 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Liz is flashing back to her Franco haunting.  She was talking  to Finn about something big. But Sam interrupts them and awkwardly updates them about Peter. The Lollipop Guild  has sincerely pronounced him dead y'all because an autopsy was done. 

I hope this is true, but some of us remember when Jake was run over by Luke Spencer a few years ago, was brain dead,  and eventually had his kidneys removed from his dead body so Joss could get one. Then years later he resurfaced and we found out he'd been on Cassadine Island. 

As long as Peter's offscreen, I'm happy with him being possibly dead. But is there some kind of scarecrow or invisible force field we can erect at the Port Charles city limit to prevent him from coming back yet again? 

[Daisy]

1 minute ago, rur said:

I hope this is true, but some of us remember when Jake was run over by Luke Spencer a few years ago, was brain dead,  and eventually had his kidneys removed from his dead body so Joss could get one. Then years later he resurfaced and we found out he'd been on Cassadine Island. 

 

I remember. I also call this the "Jesse Death" from AMC.  Jesse died. Angie cried over his dead body. He was buried. he came to visit several people as an angel and escort them to heaven and then it was "Oh yah I was alive, baby."

[KittyQ]

One thing about Shawn (Sean?) bothers me. He's using income from his "non-profit" to buy for profit businesses. Is that legal? It certainly sounds shady to me, but I don't know whether it is technically allowed even if it seems to be against the "spirit" of having a "non-profit".

[mostlylurking]

When Alexis said a part of her shut down after Neil died I was like well…..Shawn can help wake those parts right back up!  Lol. I’m sorry. Shawn’s hot!  Is he really leaving though?  His return has been a total dud, which is a shame because I think the character has potential and the actor is good.

Talk about shameful, I cannot see Drew on my screen without having a rage blackout at how horribly they are using him. I was super excited about Cameron Mathison coming on board but all he has done since being back in PC is have a minor role in apprehending Peter and of course the endless Jason propping.  I’m so mad about that.

[Daisy]

4 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

Talk about shameful, I cannot see Drew on my screen without having a rage blackout at how horribly they are using him. I was super excited about Cameron Mathison coming on board but all he has done since being back in PC is have a minor role in apprehending Peter and of course the endless Jason propping.  I’m so mad about that.

i said this before - like you need some people on this show not liking the mob, or Team Corinthii.. Robert, Scotty, and Mac don't really count because they (wisely) ALWAYS did.  When everyone is team mob and you have like ONE person like well yah no. it's just crazy. Or you know. everyone is all YAY PETER IS DEAD, HE CAUSED SO MUCH SADNESS and then it's like. yah. and Sonny when he stops lusting over Nina and drinking, will go back to causing murders and no one will care.

everyone was telling me that Drew #1 was basically over the mob and stufff and this one is all. "Sonny is the bestest person ever!" and wants to get into Carly's pants. and what drives me insane is. that he's basically a Q. WHY are you friends with these people when they hurt your family so much. BLQ i can understand because Lois and Sonny were friends and Sonny is her godfather, but that's my point. you've got Nimrod who is a Q and doesn't care unless it buys him bribes because he identifies as a Corinthii. You have BLQ who LOVES Sonny. You had Jason who LOVED sonny and carly so much he was a crap father to his kids. so you had to give Monica another Son who LOVES Sonny and Carly? like geeeshh. And the worst thing about this is if Jason was alive Sonny and Carly would want nothing to do w/this guy. 

[Kim0820]

26 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

One thing about Shawn (Sean?) bothers me. He's using income from his "non-profit" to buy for profit businesses. Is that legal? It certainly sounds shady to me, but I don't know whether it is technically allowed even if it seems to be against the "spirit" of having a "non-profit".

Maybe OK if he saves up his earnings from the non profit - but using its capital would probably be wrong.  

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

I know that they write and shoot the episodes a long time ahead but Willow and Michael whining that they have to delay their weekend in Paris as I'm watching footage of fleeing Ukrainian families with their children and pets makes me even more disgusted with Millowtonin.

It's gross anyway, considering they're going on the ELQ jet and Michael supposedly is going to pull out all the stops. Conspicuous consumption isn't cool, Show. 

Also, this stupid birth certificate story. It's so manufactured. Just tell Willow you don't have it because you moved around so much. Or tell her the truth, which will come out anyway. No one ever learns that lesson. (I know it's a soap trope, but this story is the opposite of soapy.) And what happened to giving the crook half the money up front and the rest on delivery? That was quite the wad of cash Harmony forked over to the counterfeiter.

1 hour ago, seasons said:

Sam told Liz and Finn that the WSB has peters body and they did an autopsy.

He can't escape the autopsy, but I wouldn't doubt the WSB screwing things up somehow?

I bet Victor still has some pull at the WSB, so that when Peter inevitably reappears, that will explain things.

[Hater]

14 minutes ago, Daisy said:

everyone was telling me that Drew #1 was basically over the mob and stufff and this one is all. "Sonny is the bestest person ever!" and wants to get into Carly's pants. and what drives me insane is. that he's basically a Q. WHY are you friends with these people when they hurt your family so much. BLQ i can understand because Lois and Sonny were friends and Sonny is her godfather, but that's my point. you've got Nimrod who is a Q and doesn't care unless it buys him bribes because he identifies as a Corinthii. You have BLQ who LOVES Sonny. You had Jason who LOVED sonny and carly so much he was a crap father to his kids. so you had to give Monica another Son who LOVES Sonny and Carly? like geeeshh. And the worst thing about this is if Jason was alive Sonny and Carly would want nothing to do w/this guy. 

OG Drew was over Carson, etc but there was also alot of BTS issues with the original actor which I think made the character adverse to Carly & Sonny.  With that said, this current version has completely lost me with the ass kissing of those two, Jason, etc.  But I knew this would happen.  I was willing to give CM a chance but Drew lost me when he returned home and started to interact with PC residents.  I find him to be a big dullard, which is the case with most of these characters on this show currently.

Edited February 25, 2022 by Hater

[ffwbe]

14 minutes ago, Daisy said:

i said this before - like you need some people on this show not liking the mob, or Team Corinthii.. Robert, Scotty, and Mac don't really count because they (wisely) ALWAYS did.  When everyone is team mob and you have like ONE person like well yah no. it's just crazy. Or you know. everyone is all YAY PETER IS DEAD, HE CAUSED SO MUCH SADNESS and then it's like. yah. and Sonny when he stops lusting over Nina and drinking, will go back to causing murders and no one will care.

everyone was telling me that Drew #1 was basically over the mob and stufff and this one is all. "Sonny is the bestest person ever!" and wants to get into Carly's pants. and what drives me insane is. that he's basically a Q. WHY are you friends with these people when they hurt your family so much. BLQ i can understand because Lois and Sonny were friends and Sonny is her godfather, but that's my point. you've got Nimrod who is a Q and doesn't care unless it buys him bribes because he identifies as a Corinthii. You have BLQ who LOVES Sonny. You had Jason who LOVED sonny and carly so much he was a crap father to his kids. so you had to give Monica another Son who LOVES Sonny and Carly? like geeeshh. And the worst thing about this is if Jason was alive Sonny and Carly would want nothing to do w/this guy. 

I don’t think anyone is allowed to hate Sonny anymore unless they are a bad guy. Ned did for years but now has to be friendly to him because of Olivia. Taggart despised him but they made them buddy-buddy when the actor returned in 2020. Even in the Guza years when Sonny and Jason were the “heroes”, a lot of characters vocally hated Sonny and the mob but Scott is pretty much the lone holdout these days. 

Edited February 25, 2022 by ffwbe

[Suicidy]

16 hours ago, ulkis said:

@TeeVee329 From all the reasons being in a coma is shit, not being Maxie's very best friend isn't one of them. :p

Speaking of her, the temp Sasha would be a pretty decent Lulu imo.

I’m on board with that.  I have no objections to having both Mattsson sisters as main cast.

[sacrebleu]

Man, it would SUCK to be Lulu right now, come out of a coma to find your man is dating someone else, your job is gone ( invader sold) and your bestie found a new bestie. 😆

[nilyank]

9 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

Man, it would SUCK to be Lulu right now, come out of a coma to find your man is dating someone else, your job is gone ( invader sold) and your bestie found a new bestie. 😆

Funnily enough, she liked Peter so she will upset until she finds out he turned out to be a cartoon villain. I think Alexis may hire GirlReporter if she is still wants to pursue her dream of girlreporting stories about her friends and families.

Thanks sacrebleu for bringing it up, because I miss throwing shade on Lulu's "career."

[pianogirl73]

What was that scene between Sam, Liz,and Finn where Sam told them that Peter was gone?Everyone else says "Peter is dead"   when they are telling people. Sam had to communicate in the most round about and bizarre way. Did KeMo forget her lines or something? 

[dbklmt]

"Peter is Dead!"  Peter is Dead!"  "Peter is Dead!" 🤢

Me thinks they doth protest too much!!! 😵

[Blackie]

14 minutes ago, pianogirl73 said:

What was that scene between Sam, Liz,and Finn where Sam told them that Peter was gone?Everyone else says "Peter is dead"   when they are telling people. Sam had to communicate in the most round about and bizarre way. Did KeMo forget her lines or something? 

 

There was some really clunky writing today, The scene between Dante and Sonny was terrible, even DZ couldn't pull off.

Carly "I have to tell Sonny that Jason's death has been avenged"  How stupid,even for Carly

[ciarra]

1 hour ago, sacrebleu said:

Man, it would SUCK to be Lulu right now, come out of a coma to find your man is dating someone else

Technically, they were divorced and she was about to be proposed to by another guy.

[GHScorpiosRule]

26 minutes ago, ciarra said:

Technically, they were divorced and she was about to be proposed to by another guy.

But she told Dante she loved him before she fell to the ground and into a coma.

[YaddaYadda]

1 hour ago, sacrebleu said:

Man, it would SUCK to be Lulu right now, come out of a coma to find your man is dating someone else, your job is gone ( invader sold) and your bestie found a new bestie. 😆

Your father is "dead" or dead. Your son has been aged, your daughter's face has changed. And nobody has bothered visiting you since before Christmas. 

So there was nothing interesting in today's episode, but I thought the Sam/Elizabeth scenes were nice, about them being connected through their sons and having each others' backs. It's so nice when women stop fighting over the blandest dick in town and come together like this.

I hope Jason never comes back. I'm willing to sacrifice this version of Drew for Jason to stay dead.

Edited February 26, 2022 by YaddaYadda

[ffwbe]

KM’s dialogue delivery was so strange and distracting today. Both with Liz and Alexis. It was full of awkward pauses and weird inflections. I’m not sure if she’s trying to remember her lines or what’s going on but it takes me out of the scene when she does this. 

[CanaryFan98]

2 hours ago, sacrebleu said:

Man, it would SUCK to be Lulu right now, come out of a coma to find your man is dating someone else, your job is gone ( invader sold) and your bestie found a new bestie. 😆

Yes your bestie is friends with someone you hated then there's Luke's death(allegedly)

[windsprints]

4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I bet Victor still has some pull at the WSB, so that when Peter inevitably reappears, that will explain things.

I am waiting for the results of the autopsy. There's still a slight chance of "OMG it wasn't Peter!" and we find out there was a twin.

[ciarra]

I wish they would have had Dante deduce that Nina was hiding around the corner and say "Goodbye, Nina" as he left.

[Mirabelle]

51 minutes ago, windsprints said:

I am waiting for the results of the autopsy. There's still a slight chance of "OMG it wasn't Peter!" and we find out there was a twin.

Prepare yourself for multiple clones and since a clone is a twin they can transfer Peter's memories into the clone's brain.

 

[Grinaldi]

I wish they would do what they did with Faison and let us see Peter's brain in a jar on Kevin's desk (unless that was a fakeout, I've only seen bits on you tube) as someone who hated Faison in the 80's I really appreciated that touch.

[ulkis]

I would have preferred Peter going to prison and whining about it like the wuss he is. It's a soap so it's not like him being killed is a guarantee of anything. I wouldn't mind sporadic visits; him full time was just too much.

Although I think they should have done a Peter/Lulu/Maxie/Dante quad when he first came on. Having Maxie glom on to Peter right after Nathan was killed was a mistake for several reasons; that, and him being LW's boyfriend pretty much had at least the online audience negative about him from the start.

[dubbel zout]

6 hours ago, ulkis said:

I would have preferred Peter going to prison and whining about it like the wuss he is. It's a soap so it's not like him being killed is a guarantee of anything. I wouldn't mind sporadic visits; him full time was just too much.

Returning from the dead twice is a bit much, LOL, so I agree prison is a better option if they want to bring him back after a while. (And I'm sure they do.) Clones and twins are never written with much imagination, so I prefer the actual character.

[statsgirl]

I'm rooting for WR to get a job on another show. His Snidely Whiplash Peter has lost me.

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Clones and twins are never written with much imagination

Exhibit A: Matheson's Jasonlite

[ouinason]

counter argument, Kevin

 

 

more soapy even, what if the whole "fake memories" was a fake out by Alex and both Alex and Anna in fact had a Faison Baby... and the other one looks just the same!!!!!  dun, dun, dunnnn.......

But which one belongs to which sister?  Other Peter, named Simon, is a totally nice guy who was born one town over and delivered to his adoptive parents without Val finding out or interfering, he grew up in Canada and works as Nurse Practitioner and moves to PC having NO idea about even being adopted.

Edited February 26, 2022 by ouinason

[YaddaYadda]

26 minutes ago, ouinason said:

counter argument, Kevin

 

 

more soapy even, what if the whole "fake memories" was a fake out by Alex and both Alex and Anna in fact had a Faison Baby... and the other one looks just the same!!!!!  dun, dun, dunnnn.......

But which one belongs to which sister?  Other Peter, named Simon, is a totally nice guy who was born one town over and delivered to his adoptive parents without Val finding out or interfering, he grew up in Canada and works as Nurse Practitioner and moves to PC having NO idea about even being adopted.

No. And we should burn this site to the ground so that the writers don't see this.

[dubbel zout]

Kevin was created almost 20 years ago by Claire Labine, which automatically gives him a head start. He's also his own person. By that I mean he's not a placeholder for someone else, like JasonLite is. Or a vanity character like Rebecca and Franco were.

[ouinason]

😁

 

You are right, but I am apparently incapable of keeping bad ideas to myself.

[30 Helens]

I concur that Peter should stay dead, but didn’t Helena return from the dead multiple times? Not that Peter is in her league, but I certainly wouldn’t put it past this show.

The way WR played his last scenes, though, it felt like he was giving it his all— as if he, at least expected that to be the end. And I have to hand it to him, I think he did a good job. While the sentiment is sadly pathetic, his reading of “You were supposed to save me!” was heart-wrenching. At least to me.

[Mirabelle]

43 minutes ago, ouinason said:

😁

 

You are right, but I am apparently incapable of keeping bad ideas to myself.

I share my bad ideas so that if they come to pass we're not completely taken by surprise and if Peter starts showing up in flashback, we can console ourselves with the fact that it's only a flashback and not a clone.

[CanaryFan98]

I have liked WR in other roles but I think he works better in the morally grey type of character rather than a menacing villain(which is what we're supposed to think Peter is)

[ouinason]

yeah, the abrupt swing from trying way to hard to be the good guy to just totally evil did WR no favors.  I originally quite liked Peter, but they ruined anything about him that even could be watchable, much less rootable.

[Suicidy]

On 2/24/2022 at 6:03 AM, dubbel zout said:

It's also visual shorthand—when we see characters on the dock, they're probably up to no good. I think it's dumber when people at GH talk openly in the halls about personal stuff. 

It’s such a sad cliche either way.

[Suicidy]

On 2/25/2022 at 1:07 PM, Daisy said:

I remember. I also call this the "Jesse Death" from AMC.  Jesse died. Angie cried over his dead body. He was buried. he came to visit several people as an angel and escort them to heaven and then it was "Oh yah I was alive, baby."

I k ow this has been posted recently, but…….

 

[FilmTVGeek80]

On 2/25/2022 at 4:41 PM, Daisy said:

everyone was telling me that Drew #1 was basically over the mob and stufff and this one is all. "Sonny is the bestest person ever!" and wants to get into Carly's pants. and what drives me insane is. that he's basically a Q. WHY are you friends with these people when they hurt your family so much. BLQ i can understand because Lois and Sonny were friends and Sonny is her godfather, but that's my point. you've got Nimrod who is a Q and doesn't care unless it buys him bribes because he identifies as a Corinthii. You have BLQ who LOVES Sonny. You had Jason who LOVED sonny and carly so much he was a crap father to his kids. so you had to give Monica another Son who LOVES Sonny and Carly? like geeeshh. And the worst thing about this is if Jason was alive Sonny and Carly would want nothing to do w/this guy. 

Drew was basically only over the mob stuff because after SBu came back the show didn't have much use for BM, so they pretty much severed every connection he had to that side except for Sam (because of Scout) and even then I don't think Sam and Drew had many scenes together after they broke up. It's not that Drew hated Sonny and Carly. He was friendly enough with Carly when Joss and Oscar were dating. I may not like it because I hate most of the Corinthii, too, but there was always a chance CM's Drew would be drawn closer to that side because he's considered a big get. And I think this would have been happening (maybe not the potential romance with Carly) even if SBu's Jason was still around. I don't know what the deal is now with Drew's memories (whether he still has the Jason ones) but he spent years feeling bonded to them. And being a Q doesn't seem to matter anymore when it comes to hating Sonny and Carly. Sonny killed her son and Carly helped cover it up and Monica is more than cordial with them, so I don't know why Drew should be held to a higher standard than her.

[Grinaldi]

I do think Peter is at least gone for the foreseeable future. They left just enough ambiguity to bring him back if they need/want to in a few years when they need a big bad. 

The only characters who are truly dead on this show are Steve, Audrey, Jessie, Edward, Lila, Alan, and BJ. 

[ffwbe]

13 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

Drew was basically only over the mob stuff because after SBu came back the show didn't have much use for BM, so they pretty much severed every connection he had to that side except for Sam (because of Scout) and even then I don't think Sam and Drew had many scenes together after they broke up. It's not that Drew hated Sonny and Carly. He was friendly enough with Carly when Joss and Oscar were dating. I may not like it because I hate most of the Corinthii, too, but there was always a chance CM's Drew would be drawn closer to that side because he's considered a big get. And I think this would have been happening (maybe not the potential romance with Carly) even if SBu's Jason was still around. I don't know what the deal is now with Drew's memories (whether he still has the Jason ones) but he spent years feeling bonded to them. And being a Q doesn't seem to matter anymore when it comes to hating Sonny and Carly. Sonny killed her son and Carly helped cover it up and Monica is more than cordial with them, so I don't know why Drew should be held to a higher standard than her.

Drew didn’t hate Sonny and Carly but they had absolutely zero use for him once they found out he wasn’t Jason. It was already wavering before SBu’s return when he left the mob and wouldn’t put them ahead of Sam and his kids. So I think that’s where it rings hallow for me. Sonny pretty much called him discount Jason and how he wouldn’t measure up when he was lashing out but Carly’s reactions don’t remotely ring true. If they played up her needing a new Jason, I might get it, but they’re trying to make it seem like she genuinely cares about him and considers him a friend 

[Daisy]

9 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

Sonny killed her son and Carly helped cover it up and Monica is more than cordial with them, so I don't know why Drew should be held to a higher standard than her.

Well i've flat out stated several times that Monica is cordial to them because she doesn't want to lose connection to Michael and her other grandchildren.  All her family is up the Corinthii butt. and she's like 77 well Leslie is, happy belated), so it's like what's the point of fighting in her mind. And that's the thing too. she's cordial.  She's not having a standing dinner date with Carly at the PC grill. or having chats and stuff. She's simply not .. Tracey'ing it up so to speak and being caustic, giving barbs at them every chance she has. 

That easily could have been Drew. But he's basically another Corinthii butt kisser right now and I just feel it's wrong. For what i've stated. Everyone in town are like yippie skippy Peter is dead, and it's like yah cool. but then literaly 2 seconds later Drew is telling someone how AMAZING the local mobster who has done equally worse things to people (some he loves). that's just jarring and it's wrong (to me).. 

he doesn't have to be on a "higher standard" but at the same time he doesn't lose as much as Monica either so he doesn't have to have his lips pressed up to their butts . 

[FilmTVGeek80]

54 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

Drew didn’t hate Sonny and Carly but they had absolutely zero use for him once they found out he wasn’t Jason. It was already wavering before SBu’s return when he left the mob and wouldn’t put them ahead of Sam and his kids. So I think that’s where it rings hallow for me. Sonny pretty much called him discount Jason and how he wouldn’t measure up when he was lashing out but Carly’s reactions don’t remotely ring true. If they played up her needing a new Jason, I might get it, but they’re trying to make it seem like she genuinely cares about him and considers him a friend 

Yes, they had zero use for him and that was yet another reason they were so scummy. My preference would be for Drew to continue to not hang around them, but I'm not going to hate him because he does. While I don't necessarily buy it, Carly at the very least did apologize for how she treated him after Jason came back. Drew's a good enough person that I buy him accepting her apology.

49 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Well i've flat out stated several times that Monica is cordial to them because she doesn't want to lose connection to Michael and her other grandchildren.  All her family is up the Corinthii butt. and she's like 77 well Leslie is, happy belated), so it's like what's the point of fighting in her mind. And that's the thing too. she's cordial.  She's not having a standing dinner date with Carly at the PC grill. or having chats and stuff. She's simply not .. Tracey'ing it up so to speak and being caustic, giving barbs at them every chance she has. 

That easily could have been Drew. But he's basically another Corinthii butt kisser right now and I just feel it's wrong. For what i've stated. Everyone in town are like yippie skippy Peter is dead, and it's like yah cool. but then literaly 2 seconds later Drew is telling someone how AMAZING the local mobster who has done equally worse things to people (some he loves). that's just jarring and it's wrong (to me).. 

he doesn't have to be on a "higher standard" but at the same time he doesn't lose as much as Monica either so he doesn't have to have his lips pressed up to their butts . 

I was probably being generous by saying cordial because I think Monica has been more than that and I don't believe she'd lose her connection to her grandchildren if she wasn't friendly to Sonny and Carly. Jason even told her he'd get it if she wasn't happy about him marrying Carly, but I feel Monica went above and beyond welcoming Carly to the family and being more than friendly with her. She also expressed concern for Sonny the other day. There's a middle ground between being Tracey-like and expressing concern for the guy who killed your son.

Like you said, everyone in this town, including most of the Qs, are Cornithii "butt kissers" so I'm not sure why Drew is getting so much hate for it. Drew might not lose as much as Monica if he wasn't friends with them, but there's no real reason for him not to be. Monica doesn't seem to have an issue with their friendships.

I'm one of the few who actually liked Peter (at least before they turned him completely into a cartoon villain and even then I didn't care about seeing him dead) and I get that acting like people like Peter and Cyrus are worse than Sonny and Jason is hypocritical, but I'd have to hate every character on this show if being a Corinthii butt kisser was a deal breaker - and that includes the "good guys characters who should know better like Anna, Jordan, Chase, Laura, etc. And maybe I'm just so used to the hypocrisy about Sonny et al. but I have a harder time dealing with people like Anna and Brooklynn acting like Valentin is somehow a far better man than Peter considering he's probably done far worse (including giving a child to a sociopath out of spite) than Peter ever did.

Edited February 27, 2022 by FilmTVGeek80

[Daisy]

well, per usual. anytime people blow smoke up Corinthii's butts, I give them grief for it. I did it with Portia (ie: all side eye Nik and Spencer, but is a-okay with Sonny who is a known Mobster) and so on and so forth. 

Like i said. i didn't watch the Drew years. I don't really know the back stage drama. what i was told was Drew was over Sonny and Carly. what I'm seeing is the direct opposite. So i'm giving him crap for it. end of story.  

also again my point still stands true. there needs to be more anti mob/anti-bad guy period. No enemy of my enemy is my friend. No. I hate you but i'm going to do what's best for my daughter. simple not putting up with mobster/Corinthii crap. I thought that would be Drew. i am disappoint.

this doesn't mean they can't be cordial or if they see something is wrong (ie: Sonny off his meds) they have to be given a direct cut (esp since Monica is a doctor). but they don't have to be a "kumbayah we're all good." either). because when you DO have Bad people on the show - it just stands out. and it really just stands out more that there is no one on the Q side not giving that family the time of day. i'm not saying i need world war 3 or anything. but i just need some (constant) recognition that these guys DO suck, and ARE bad guys as well as someone  in the Q family not to be up their butts. 

Edited February 27, 2022 by Daisy

[nilyank]

4 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I'm one of the few who actually liked Peter (at least before they turned him completely into a cartoon villain and even then I didn't care about seeing him dead) and I get that acting like people like Peter and Cyrus are worse than Sonny and Jason is hypocritical, but I'd have to hate every character on this show if being a Corinthii butt kisser was a deal breaker - and that includes the "good guys characters who should know better like Anna, Jordan, Chase, Laura, etc.

I also liked Peter and even liked his relationship with Maxie. I thought it was ridiculous for characters to deem him to have good in him because Anna was his biological mother and then turn on a dime and say he had no good in him because Anna was no longer his biological mother. It doesn't work like that in real life.

Most of Peter crimes were against not so nice people and then his cowardly reaction to covering up what he had done years earlier. 

Killing Franco brought me a ton of good will from me that lasted until he decided he was going to kidnap a pregnant Maxie and force her to give birth and go away with him. By that point, I knew the writers were done trying to make him an actual character.

I don't need to hear Liesl opinions about Peter because I am still waiting for her to apologize to Robin for what she did and she conveniently forgets that she should be spending the next couple of decades behind bars but got off the same way Peter had (bribery, money, and people who were willing to look the other way).

Nor do I want to hear from Nina that Peter never had a right to ever be near his daughter as she is the same woman who insisted that poor psycho Nelle deserved a chance to be a mother to Wylie after she found out that Nelle owned half-heart necklace to match her own. Because of Nelle's tragic childhood. 

The rest of town? Eh. He didn't really terrorize most of the citizens in town ala Jerry, or the original Cassadines with the weather machine.  Peter will be forgotten pretty much as all the other villains in town have ala Shiloh, Cyrus.

Edited February 27, 2022 by nilyank

[YaddaYadda]

I think they cast the wrong actor for the role of Peter. I didn't buy him as a villain, I didn't buy him as this earnest loverboy with Maxie. I hated that they kept ramming him down our (my) throats even though the character wasn't working. Then they decided to include Anna and Alex in the memory transplant story, turning Anna into a weeping mess.

I'm certain the actor did his best, but the writers botched a lot of that story arc. Never mind giving him and Maxie a baby. I don't care how stinking cute Bailey is. She shouldn't exist.

Now about Drew. I really dislike this version and he will inevitably end up with Carly, which I just can't with. 

[Hater]

Drew is so boring, just follows Carly around town like a dog.  JasonLite truly is a perfect nickname for him. Initially, I ate some crow about CM's portrayal because I liked the scenes in Greece but for the last two months I've been unimpressed.  It's all too tidy for me.

Edited February 27, 2022 by Hater

[ByaNose]

I liked CM better when bearded, battered & bruised. He showed (as he was supposed to) more anguish. Now, he’s clean shaven and going from character to character in Port Charles looking like a soap stud from the 80’s & 90’s. LOL!!! At 52, Mathison is looking great and he’s a good stable actor but I just preferred Billy Miller because he was rough around the edges. 

Edited February 27, 2022 by ByaNose

[Daisy]

CM is reminding me of Ryan from AMC now - which isn't really a good thing.

[KayVeeTeeVee]

On 2/25/2022 at 3:48 PM, seasons said:

Wow that was a great close up of Michael's confused face when Dante told them Peter was dead. Lol. 🤔

Wait!  Does Michael have another face?  Oh, yeah, the open mouth, slack jaw.  Horrible.  How does he stay on contract?