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Culture Check: How can we discuss a character's or actor's appearance without objectifying them? How can we express likes or dislikes and still respect an individual's humanity or be mindful that a character represents a person someone else might relate to or identify with?

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36 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Was Dawn her daughter? (I wasn't watching then.) Dawn, AJ, Emily and now Jason maks 4. And grandson Oscar.

(Meanwhile Sonny is populating the world.)

yeah Dawn was her daughter. I think she died in a car accident? or was stabbed? one of the two. lol. (it was wayy before my time). but Monica really has drawn the short stick here. 4 kids and her husband. 

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1 hour ago, Artsda said:

Luke's not dead. Scam you can't pass up, body none of his family saw, ID'd from his personal effects. Not sure what the purpose of this is since he's offscreen for so long. Unless he's making a guest appearance.

Hey remember when Ethan said Holly was running some scam and then the WSB ended up informing Robert that her burnt up remains were found with her very clean/shiny ring and we later see that she is being held hostage?

Same story. Pretty sure that Peter called up a favor to distract Robert and Holly ended up "dead." So I pretty sure they are going to say it eventually that it was Victor. And I am pretty sure that Luke is with Holly now.

4 hours ago, statsgirl said:

I don't think that they can end the Bailey Lou = Louise storyline till Peter is no longer a threat. And he just refuses to die.

 

Unpopular opinion, but if they are not going to kill Peter (and they aren't for the time being), just admit the truth and deal with it and the horrible mess of custody as Peter actually gets some form of visitation. Because I don't think he is going back to prison.

Oh a big fat no to calling her Louise.

 

6 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Kind of surprised the family got the news before Sonny did, And no one mentioned letting him know! Hee.

Isn't there a spoiler that

 

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Laura and Sonny catch up. I sure "Luke" will come up.

I actually missing Sonny's real PH. That set was around for decades with different characters: Traccy, Sean, Robert and Holly, and later Sonny and various Corinthii and Corinthii adjacent. I had actually wanted Michael to take Wylie and sigh (Willow) to live there as that was his real childhood home before Sonny and Carly broke and they had those seperate houses.

4 minutes ago, Daisy said:

yeah Dawn was her daughter. I think she died in a car accident? or was stabbed? one of the two. lol. (it was wayy before my time). but Monica really has drawn the short stick here. 4 kids and her husband. 

Dawn was murdered.

Emily was murdered. 

AJ was murdered.

Jason was....he is as dead as Luke.

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That was supposed to be the penthouse?? I was confused by Sonny saying he got that place for Stone— I was wondering if there was some Stone apartment I had forgotten about. But I remember the penthouse quite well. I knew Penthouse. Penthouse was a friend of mine. You, new set, are no Penthouse.

On 1/3/2022 at 4:42 PM, Auntie Velvet said:

I loved it. Those braids ARE Tracy. Especially pre-Luke Tracy.

Ahhh… nostalgia. Many moons ago, I used to rock me some Tracy braids. Seriously, I loved her braids and was proud to put them on my own head. I would be thrilled to have Tracy back in any form, but in braids? Perfection.

On 1/4/2022 at 4:22 AM, jqdeco said:

Even if they kill off Luke, is he really dead?  Luke himself made some comment years ago, I think to Tracy, that no one ever really dies in Port Charles.  So kill him off and bring him back someday if TG wants to make an appearance.

Exactly. Except I would be beyond shocked if TG ever returned. I think he is done with this shit.

It seems this is a setup for some kind of long-simmering Cassadine revenge plot for the Ice Princess. If it ends up with Laura getting the ultimate revenge, I’m all for it. And if Helena somehow resurfaces in the process, I’m good with that, too. But I don’t think I trust the current team to respect history and do a good story at the same time. We’ll see.

19 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

That drives me crazy. The redo of the Q mansion has the door in a totally different place than it was originally, and we're not supposed to notice.

Glad to see I’m not the only one who is still bothered by that. Sure, redo the sets all you want, but is it so hard to make it make sense? Why does the door need to be on the right now? Every time someone goes to the front door, I want to shout, “That’s the kitchen!” I’m not letting this go, dammit.

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9 hours ago, tessaray said:

JE has amazing bone structure. She has more than enough presence to carry off those braids. She could play a medieval queen, imo. The one left standing after all the warriors are dead and the city is in ruins. 😏

 

hmm, except being called "Granny" , yikes.  I guess she could be a Raging Granny.

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Well, 2022 started with no Carly and no Sonny so that was a plus.

I do hope Luke's "death" will focus on Laura and Tracy and not Sonny's pain. I also agree with everyone saying the news loses some of impact with all of his kids not currently on the canvas. 

And some will have to explain why Drew is such an amazing soldier that Victor is still angling to get him under his control. Like, with all the Cassidine resources they can't kidnap another Marine? Really?

Add journalism to the list of things GH does incredibly poorly. Sean's "big" exposee is an HR dispute with both sides agreeing to a settlement and  non-disclosure??  So... How did he get the story? And what's the conflict if both sides came to terms?!?!?

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57 minutes ago, absnow54 said:

I'll believe Luke is dead-dead when JJ's Lucky shows up to a memorial service.

 

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1 minute ago, sacrebleu said:

And some will have to explain why Drew is such an amazing soldier that Victor is still angling to get him under his control. Like, with all the Cassidine resources they can't kidnap another Marine? Really?

I don't think it's got anything to do with Drew being an amazing soldier. Drew knows something that seems to be important to Victor. 

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tbh the Great Value penthouse set looks a lot better to me than the horrific attempt at bringing back 'the brownstone' which looked like Mr. Rogers' house a few years ago, or the Q mansion redesign which I still don't like and looks small and cheap.

 

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Jane Elliott is such a joy to watch. I'm glad that Tracy's figured the baby switch out.

If Victor is so keen to avenge all the wrongs done to the Cassadines that he offered to exact revenge on Brook Lynn, then he needs to go after Peter. Which he won't even though it's better bonding with Valentin. Hypocrite.

Did Franco have OneDrive or some other cloud storage? Is the recording of Peter killing him going to magically appear on the tapes that Scott gave Cameron and Aiden?

Britt is not just CoS at the hospital, she's Peter's sister. She has more right to be in there than Martin. And Holly. Is Alexis the only women who hadn't been with him?

"You must have a reason for asking my mother (who has zero newspaper experience) to be second-in-command"  Yes, because Shawn thinks that she would be easy to manipulate and she'll do what he wants.  I like Alexis but she's going to be fastforward material if they turn her stupid and  stick her with Shawn. Are they making her the new Willow?

SHUT UP SAM. Yes, there is a need for someone to actually know what they are doing before taking a position of responsibility. Just because you think that you can wing anything, that doesn't mean it's right.

Austin/Britt is a better pairing than with Maxie.

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Michael cut his hair. Michael is like well. I lied to you about DA Dumbass,, You lied to me about Dad and Nina so let's call it even and give each other grace since we have to be all on the same page with Wiley anyway. Willow (growing some sense) is like. um no. this is SO not the same thing. One impacted wiley and one.. didn't. Michael is like wait why aren't you bowing down to my will?

Harmony shows up. apparently Willow finally decided to call her. Harmony gives a present and Wiley just takes it and splits. but says thank you later. Harmony blows smoke up this kids butt and all I am seeing is them making Michael 2.0.  they infodump on Harmony about Nina. Willow goes. "well Nina looked upset, but maybe I'm naive." Harmony insta goes. "is that what Michael told you." YES HARMONY. Question Michael's ass.  Harmony goes trust your instincts, and if you think Nina means no harm then in her opinion Wiley benefits from Nina being around vs. Nina being a ghost. Michael shows up, and goes "sooo whatcha talking about." Willow goes "Nina". Harmony goes. "Look. you should trust my daughter's instincts." Michael purses his lips and goes "well how is this any of YOUR business?" Harmony deploys an "excuse me?" face and Willow has an "oh no face."


Tracy is awesome and is telling BLQ to stop the crap and dish about the baby. she basically is like why are you still lying about this if you were found out, and OMG YOU ARE NOT STUPID TO STEAL A BABY. Oh Jane Elliot. You give me life. BLQ is like no she's not stolen, so lets leave this it's none of your business. Tracy is like um. you are passing her off as a Q, this SO makes this my business. then tracy is like. heh heh you and mr. law and order (chase) because she's like why is chase lying for you. BLQ is like we just friends, and Tracy is like I don't believe you

Anna and Felicia is suspect of Maxie's behaviour. Felicia thinks she knows why. She thinks Maxie is in super denial. Both super spies are like we did the same thing. Felicia starts to break down because how does she know Louise is alive, Anna is like let's not. do this. 

Maxie is questioning Austin and Britt about Peter. She's freaking out. Col.Tad shows up. Peter wants him to be his lawyer. He wants him to prove he didn't kill Franco. okay i legit don't have the energy to recap this crap. Col Tad says 50k retainer, and I'll only deal with Franco. Peter is like done. Why Col. Tad, WHY?! :( Col Tad thinks he might be able to poke holes. Maxie wants to know the details, Col. Tad breaks her heart and Maxie is like I helped you on New Years!!" Col. Tad is like. this is business and NY is pleasure. 

Maxie shows up to Anna and Felicia and they go. "we need to search for Louise." Maxie is like. um... but Robert shows up to tell them about Luke. Felicia can't imagine a world without Luke. Robert is like it's like I lost a brother. Maxie wants to stop by Q's and Felicia says i'll drive you. Anna says "first holly and now luke." they are glad they are together. they look back at god times. . 

Val has no time for Mr Sheffield. Mr Sheffield brings up Bailey. They get to the crux of the matter which is BLQ, and Mr Sheffield goes. "why don't we show BLQ what it means to cross a Cassadine?" val is like really? and Mr. Sheff goes. "stronger together!" Col. tad shows up. and says to Val he's repping Peter. Val's face is like excuse me?! Col. Tad is like Peter has the right to justice. Col Tad is like look. I have bills to pay. cyrus isn't covering for Mama anymore. I wasn't working in Witness Protection and I have to pay 3x alimony. Val is like... I have to go. Col. Tad is like you're punishing me?! Val is like. YOU were late, i have to go.  Val hits the elevator and Mr. Sheffield the elevator with him. Mr. Sheffield goes let's go after BLQ. She disrespected our family name, and we need to right this terrible wrong. Val just looks at him.

Britt is trying to go see Peter, but Austin stops her. Britt goes i need to go see peter. Austin goes when was the last time you saw him "When he killed jason and tried to do me and Lisel." Austin is like it's not a good look if you kill him. Britt is basically all. "whatever." and goes to see Peter. Peter is like. "sup sis." Again. no energy for his dumbass. hahaha Britt calls Peter a dumbass. it gives me life. Britt goes i am so glad we never grew up. you bring pain. she rubs in louise's disappearance, and it hurts peter. Britt goes good. Britt also goes "i despise you." Peter goes good i'll let the guards know, they are looking for the person who poisoned me. Britt goes, bitch please, if i poisoned you, I'd have gotten the dose right. plus I don't want you dead, i want you rotting and miserable for the rest of like in supermax. 

Okay. this is dumb. Why not just WORK FOR PCU, ALEXIS? anyway Sam is all wha are your plans for mom/the papers. this reason shawn is making alexis to work at the paper is dumb. you need NEWSPAPER people at a news paper.  anyway. belgh blehg, Alexis do you want the job. Alexis is like megh blegh. I don't know the job. this is so freaking boring. 

Maxie and Felicia show up and give their best to Tracy. Tracy insta sees Maxie gloom to Bailey BLQ is like. OOOH LET'S CHANGE BAILEY. They take bailey and is like "Granny knows about bailey not being mine."   Felicia and Tracy are talking, Felicia is like, it must be so hard for Maxie. being around Bailey. We've never met Louise. we keep hoping .. but after seven months (SEVEN MONTHS?!), it's hard. Tracy goes. seven months? you mean Bailey and louise is the same age? Felicia islike yeup.  Tracy stares at the bassinet.  Again. Tracy and Jane Elliot gives me life. just cutting through all the bs. 

Britt and Austin are bonding and having fun. Austin goes GO SEE THE MATCHMAKER. 

Maxie is freaking out, BLQ is like how was I not supposed to do. Maxie is like this is bad what if she figures it out. BLQ is like well no one else has. Maxie goes. BUT NO ONE IS AS SUSPICIOUS  AND SNEAKY AS TRACY (and smart don't forget smart!). BLQ has the OMG, you are right face. lol. 

BLQ brings Bailey who is fussy back into the living room and asks Tracy to watch her. and then questions if this is a good idea. Tracy snaps she managed to raise Ned and Dillion she can handle this kid, but if anything happens she'll call her. BLQ goes sure, and then Tracy looks at the baby and says. "Haven't you had the most interesting life Bailey. Or should i call you Louise?"

Dear Jane. Please unretire. Thank you.

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Please, please do not bring back Luke Spencer! The show has moved on and I am NOT ready to see him bluster about and be useless. UGH. I don't need any of these pop up on occasion actors...Luke, Lucky, Robin, etc. 

I like Lucky and Robin but they either need to recast them or just move on without them. 

But, again, NO LUKE SPENCER.

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Where do I begin?

Tracey figuring out that Bailey is Louise inside 5 minutes and Chase figuring out that BL is raising Maxie's baby inside 24 hours of being stonewalled and told where to go shows just how utterly stupid the population of PC is.

That said, I think that the time will come when Peter will also figure it out, escape and kidnap her. But not before he does some damage on his way out. I think that's what's coming. Between Victor pushing Valentin to get vengeance on BL and people starting to figure things out and talking in the open about it, the secret will come out. And apparently we're going to have a trial for Franco's murder. So another 4 months of this drivel? Plenty of time for BL and Chase to get together, and for BL to become the new walking womb. Nobody has been pregnant in a week now, which is a new world record.

CD is balding and Michael is the absolute worst. His whole you lied and I lied so it's the same thing was such a Carly thing to say and he is constantly in attack mode. The way he spoke to Harmony after she told him to trust Willow's instincts was just wow! She didn't tell you you had bad breath or that your dick was small. Which he probably does anyway considering the way he's been trying to crush Willow under his boot. I think that Harmony sees it. And I think that Willow is seeing it too. 

It seems to me that Willow's pink-colored glasses are off and that she is starting to smell the fart. The camera panned too often on her face today after Michael said something dumb for this relationship not to be hitting the skids soon.

And I for one welcome it. 

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13 minutes ago, Sheggy50G said:

Please, please do not bring back Luke Spencer! The show has moved on and I am NOT ready to see him bluster about and be useless. UGH. I don't need any of these pop up on occasion actors...Luke, Lucky, Robin, etc. 

I like Lucky and Robin but they either need to recast them or just move on without them. 

But, again, NO LUKE SPENCER.

I couldn't agree more. They've done enough to gut the legacy of L&L without doing it with BOTH of them on screen.

Felicia to Tracy today: "Nothing compares to what you and Luke shared!"

Really. Nothing.

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3 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

The way he spoke to Harmony after she told him to trust Willow's instincts was just wow! She didn't tell you you had bad breath or that your dick was small. Which he probably does anyway considering the way he's been trying to crush Willow under his boot. I think that Harmony sees it. And I think that Willow is seeing it too. 

right he was so freaking hostile with it. 

I legit hope that this is leading somewhere. especially with Harmony constantly saying how good she was at getting people to be controlled - she totally sees Michael for the douche canoe that he is and will be a thorn in his side

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5 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

 

CD is balding and Michael is the absolute worst. His whole you lied and I lied so it's the same thing was such a Carly thing to say and he is constantly in attack mode. The way he spoke to Harmony after she told him to trust Willow's instincts was just wow! She didn't tell you you had bad breath or that your dick was small. Which he probably does anyway considering the way he's been trying to crush Willow under his boot. I think that Harmony sees it. And I think that Willow is seeing it too. 

 

The nerve of him to ask WILLOW'S MOTHER how it is any of her business? Imagine Willow saying that to Carly? In front of Michael!

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Maybe they hired a new hair and makeup person because both Michael and Maxie looked better today. Michael’s hair was at least combed back and not as greasy. Maxie’s hair and makeup both looked good, a miracle for her. 

I hate that Martin is representing Peter but I did like that he just walked away when Maxie asked him what he wanted with Peter. I wish more people would do that. It’s none of her business and like he says, business is business. This is the Martin we were first introduced to. 

Aww, I remember when Luke and Felicia were a thing for a bit there.  It was when Felicia was writing Lila’s “memwhas”. God she irritated me with the way she pronounced that.

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2 minutes ago, VioletMarx said:

Felicia to Tracy today: "Nothing compares to what you and Luke shared!"

Okay to be fair - Tracy said to one of Luke's former girlfriends that Luke meant a lot to Felicia. that quote, being said to Luke's current partner - yeah, i don't think what Felicia/Luke had is comparable - and i doubt it was meant to be said as a jab to Luke + Laura. 

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Maxie, helping someone sneak out unseen of a nightclub hardly entitles you to tell that person how to run his professional life. Plus, that favor was more for Lucy than Martin.

Peter looks pretty fit to me. Move his ass to Pentonville and let him get killed along the way. Stop this madness.

Michael, Nina did purposefully withhold some things from the family, but so did Sonny. Also, YOU HAD HER ARRESTED.  Sometimes actions have consequences, you stupid little shit. I hate how they're writing this as if Nina set the whole thing up. FFS. And then his smug superiority toward Harmony. It's gross how the Corinthii want people to continually pay for their sins and they skip along scot-free.

"First Holly, now Luke." *Sean Donnelly chimes in from the afterlife: "Hey, remember me?"*

I loved Britt sneering at Peter. 

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10 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

But I remember the penthouse quite well. I knew Penthouse. Penthouse was a friend of mine. You, new set, are no Penthouse.

Haha! That never gets old! (Although those of us who remember this exchange are getting old) 😀

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7 hours ago, sacrebleu said:

Sean's "big" exposee is an HR dispute with both sides agreeing to a settlement and  non-disclosure??  So... How did he get the story? And what's the conflict if both sides came to terms?!?!?

Sean thinks he's being all 'hee hee ha ha ho ho, I got a story that reflects ~badly on Nikolas" about this.  Seriously, why is this character on the canvas?  He's insufferable.

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Alexis is such a desirable potential employee! Not only did Sam want her to join in the PI business (at least a little bit), but she could be a college professor, and now do something (I still don't understand what) at a newspaper. All of these with zero job experience in the area. I get that some skills can be useful in different fields but you'd think that some experience in the field would be required. 

 

I can't believe how disrespectful Michael was to Harmony. He acted as though she was some random stranger not his de facto MIL. He couldn't even manage to be polite, his "no disrespect, but..." notwithstanding. In my experience, when someone says, "no disrespect, but...", disrespect is exactly what they intend. It looked like maybe Willow is adding up the slights, the entitlements, the disrespectful behaviors, and the bloom could be off the rose.

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14 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

I can't believe how disrespectful Michael was to Harmony. He acted as though she was some random stranger not his de facto MIL. He couldn't even manage to be polite, his "no disrespect, but..." notwithstanding. In my experience, when someone says, "no disrespect, but...", disrespect is exactly what they intend. It looked like maybe Willow is adding up the slights, the entitlements, the disrespectful behaviors, and the bloom could be off the rose.

Michael is an absolute twat. There's absolutely nothing redeemable about this character. 

But Michael's is the best of us. I really don't want to see him at his worst.

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Willow has definitely adopted Wiley, right? So she has equal rights to him legally? I hope she tells Michael to shove it when he huffs that neither Nina nor Harmony are good role models due to how they've hurt "the family." Never mind both have practically crawled over glass to show their remorse and have willingly tried to avoid that stupid crowd all over town.

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Eh, if I was to pair Britt with one of the new Q's, I would have preferred Drew over Austin.  It's fine so far, I guess, I just hope the show takes it real slow (and that Roger Howarth cuts his hair).

I loved Tracy's interrogation of Brook and her almost immediately clocking what went down with her and Maxie.  She's the best, and it was fun to have her and Amanda Setton in scenes (Brook was off-canvas during her last visit, right?).

Anna mentioning how Luke got her through Robin's "death" just reminded me he used it as an excuse to seduce her, if memory serves, yuck.

Backing up to yesterday, hey, they mentioned Skye!  I would so love to see her.

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21 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I hope she tells Michael to shove it when he huffs that neither Nina nor Harmony are good role models due to how they've hurt "the family."

Friggin' rich considering who he calls Mom and Dad.  Not to mention the dearly departed hitman he worshipped.  But, sure, act like a total shit to Harmony for simply saying he should trust Willow's instincts.  Harmony actually took responsibility for her crimes and paid for them--that's more than I can say for any member of the Corinthii who can see precious Wiley any time they want.

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8 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

I loved Tracy's interrogation of Brook and her almost immediately clocking what went down with her and Maxie.  She's the best, and it was fun to have her and Amanda Setton in scenes (Brook was off-canvas during her last visit, right?).

Definitely some of the best scenes of today's show., though for me that's a no-brainer when JE is involved.

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While I didn’t care for how the show gutted Luke and Laura-with Geary’s whining about them, forgetting he wouldn’t have gotten there if  NOT for their love story, or for Luke in the last few years before he left, I was a fan of the character and the adventures of Luke and Laura. 
 

But I have seen FUCKING FRANK and his writers, gutting and massacring all characters and couples that made this show and part of its history that he wasn’t a part of. Like wiping out Robin and Jason and their bridge-trying to convince viewers who were there, that the bridge is something that has meaning for Jason and that SHEBEAST. How Laura, even a few years ago,  couldn’t even speak Luke’s name, or that she shared a great love with him. Anna. 

So of course I’m not surprised he’s “killed” Luke offscreenville.

And I don’t care how unpopular this opinion is. 

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I thought having Luke killed was genius. There, I said it.

I especially liked when Victor said something like “how random that the great Luke Spencer was killed in such a silly accident” because I was thinking the same. 😂

I adored the L&L pairing, even when they came back as a family. I enjoyed all their adventures with Anna, Robert and Holly. 

But I could not stomach Bill Eckart and TG’s ridiculous ego so I was super happy when he finally left for (I hope) good.

I hope they keep him dead and can’t wait to see the emotional scenes with GF and others. I would like to see some past characters too. Surprisingly, it was JZ asking Luke to call her back that made me tear up. I thought the desperation was well done.

I’m also happy to see Jane back although I agree about the weird hair, especially  in contrast to the spectacular cut that suited extremely well during her previous visit.

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Glad to see Michael's haircut, at least. CD must have somehow intuited the gifs that GH fans were going to create with his crazy post-punch hair.

I think it's obvious Luke's not dead, and he must be holed up with Holly in some dungeon. But, as others said, there's no evidence Geary would ever come back. 

Going back to yesterday's show: As a little sister myself, I loved Bobbie's detail about Luke always saying a holiday call counts if it's before Three Kings Day. That's such a big brother "out" to take!  

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Cheers to Britt giving both barrels to Peter, and feeling good about it. 

And having JE back as Tracy has been wonderful, she is so good.

Im guessing the Victor/ Val team-up to go after BLQ will result in one or both of them learning the secret 

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20 hours ago, nilyank said:

I actually missing Sonny's real PH. That set was around for decades with different characters: Traccy, Sean, Robert and Holly, and later Sonny and various Corinthii and Corinthii adjacent. I had actually wanted Michael to take Wylie and sigh (Willow) to live there as that was his real childhood home before Sonny and Carly broke and they had those seperate houses.

I randomly remember Luke dancing around the penthouse singing "Going to the Chapel" on the day of the wedding. (Presumably when it was Robert's.) And didn't Monica and Sean hook up there, when Sean lived there?

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3 hours ago, KittyQ said:

Alexis is such a desirable potential employee! Not only did Sam want her to join in the PI business (at least a little bit), but she could be a college professor, and now do something (I still don't understand what) at a newspaper. All of these with zero job experience in the area.

At least she's passed an ethics exam, which is a lot more than can be said for Shawn.

I said that the show doesn't value college enough to give Alexis a storyline there and it looks like I was right.

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Willow has definitely adopted Wiley, right?

I thought so. But then, I thought that Ned had adopted Leo.🤷‍♀️

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Peter is just fine, why is he in the hospital. What's the point of getting a lawyer for Franco murder, we saw him kill Franco. There's still the 1000 other crimes.

Anna probably hit nail on head, Luke and Holly. They're probably together. Is Ethan supposed to be looking for her?

Killing Luke with none of his children on canvas serves no purpose. He's alive somewhere. 

"When Robin was dead that time." When sentences like that are said you should wonder if Luke is dead.

Willow better tell Carly to mind her business next time she says anything because of Michaels rude reply.

Tracy has done the math and figured out the baby switch already. Before Brooklyn can tell Maxie Tracy won't figure it out. Lol

Brooklyn gonna pay by Victor. Good luck to her. She should have just told Valentine the truth instead of this fake Chase stuff. 

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35 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Tracy has done the math and figured out the baby switch already.

I loved how the second Maxie made a beeline for the baby she was already, even in her state of grief, thinking 'huh, that's weird.'  You cannot put anything by on Tracy!

Forgot to mention, I loved the little fist bump/wave Valentin and Alexis did at the hospital yesterday.  They've got a great sibling-like relationship.

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Whether Luke's really dead or not (probably the ladder), Tony Geary would only return for a guest appearance maximum anyhow, not for a longtime stint, so no big worries for all Luke haters. And I always enjoyed TG's performances, so I would not really mind.

We just found out that Victor is behind Luke's presumed demise and that he is targeting Laura next, so it looks like the Spencer Cassadine conflict will be resuscitated, and I am all in for that. And how Spencer will fit into all of this, as he just started to connect with Victor. 

The first three episodes of 2022 each included 4 Golden Age actors every day <yay!> which has at least partially to do with Luke's supposedly demise. And today Lucy will be back. She was a friend of Luke's back in the day, as was Alexis, right? Am curious to see how they will react to his "death".

If all of this leads up to Luke bringing Holly back to his best friend and her one and only true love Robert, then IMO it will all be worth it in the end.
Sad RFS on yesterday's show broke my heart big time. 

And finally, it is sooo ironic that Kin Shriner is on a leave of absence right now, as Scotty would be the one celebrating big time that his longtime rival is finally gone for good (for now).
I so wish that we could see Mr Schnitzel's reaction.

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14 hours ago, statsgirl said:

At least she's passed an ethics exam

Which she then failed to live up to by lying about sleeping with her shrink boyfriend. Oh, Alexis. I still hate how they've taken away her law license. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it feels misogynistic that this happened to her.  I'd much rather Alexis had decided for herself that being a lawyer was no longer satisfying, so she's pivoting. But then she wouldn't have sunk into alcoholism and insisted on going to jail. Ugh.

13 hours ago, Artsda said:

"When Robin was dead that time." When sentences like that are said you should wonder if Luke is dead.

FFS, PETER was supposed to be dead and came back to life. Suddenly because it's Luke it's legit? This drives me nuts. Does no one have ANY historical perspective?

12 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Forgot to mention, I loved the little fist bump/wave Valentin and Alexis did at the hospital yesterday.  They've got a great sibling-like relationship.

I really hope this continues, because I think NLG and JPS work really well together.

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12 hours ago, Ambrosefolly said:

Except that one time AJ came back. 

Edward came back from the dead once, also.  Which is weird because he was a ghost before he came back.  If we're including deaths where the audience was in the know, Alan came back. But he staged his death and Edward and Jimmy Lee were in the loop, so I feel like it shouldn't be counted.

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5 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Oh, Alexis. I still hate how they've taken away her law license. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it feels misogynistic that this happened to her.  I'd much rather Alexis had decided for herself that being a lawyer was no longer satisfying, so she's pivoting. But then she wouldn't have sunk into alcoholism and insisted on going to jail. Ugh.

Sometimes I do see shows where I think male writers are trying to knock the "independent professional woman" down a peg with that kind of story, but I actually don't think that was the intention here. If I were guessing, I'd say they were just trying to do something to shake up a character who had been around for a long time. They had a lady lawyer spare (Diane) to pop up and say nonsense to get people out of PCPD lock-up. NLG always gives 100 percent with heavy drama, so they gave her a "downward spiral" knowing she'd make a lot out of it. And she has gotten years of material out of slowly working her way back up.

(As an aside, I also don't think the thing she went to jail for, going nuts and giving someone an injection against their will, was the writers mocking NLG for her personal views, which is a theory I've seen. That was in January of last year, so it was probably written and shot several weeks before vaccines were even rolling out.) 

I'd still love to see her get her law license back, though, and I never rule anything out. It's the show where a serial killer got off the hook with a magic tumor, and the mob boss got pardoned by the governor. 

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31 minutes ago, NotMySekrit2Tell said:

I'd still love to see her get her law license back, though, and I never rule anything out. It's the show where a serial killer got off the hook with a magic tumor, and the mob boss got pardoned by the governor. 

Those were men. The wimmins rarely get that sort of redemption. Look at what's happening right now to Nina and Harmony. It's not quite the same level, but they aren't allowed to whine that everyone is so mean for holding their transgressions against them and everybody needs to just get over it.

33 minutes ago, NotMySekrit2Tell said:

If I were guessing, I'd say they were just trying to do something to shake up a character who had been around for a long time.

I reluctantly agree that this is probably the case. "Reluctantly" because I hate to give these writers any benefit of the doubt, heh. There were definitely better ways to change Alexis's life, though.

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A day later and I'm still thinking about how obnoxious and rude Michael was to Harmony.  I seriously think he doesn't want Willow to think for herself and anyone who encourages it is in his crosshairs.   Harmony very gently suggesting he respects Willow's opinions/instincts was met with him pontificating on how great a guy he was for ~allowing her to be in his house (and it's not even HIS house).  

Fuck off, Michael.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

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my anemia is knocking me on my butt so just some quick notes. 

Ava is like. weee, you're free, why didn't you call me, dumbo. Nina is like. sorry. pout pout Scotty ruined Carly/Sonny's marriage. Nina, shut up and find a new song. lmao. Ava is like wait? Sonny has guilty face, Carly wants to kill people with looks and I didn't get a front row seat. :'( Ava rocks. Ava is all. wait does Sonny want you? go get Sonny. Nina is like if you're using this to get Avery you suck, and i'm not telling you anymore. Nina infodumps about NYE, and Ava goes damn you really love sonny. Ava points out Sonny isn't caught between the past and present, he's caught up between Nina and carly. (isn't that the same thing?

Avery is like where the eff is my daddy, Carly. Carly is all um. is at work. and dumps Avery on the nanny. (I will point out. just saying when Ava had custody,  Avery always went with Ava. she never pushed her on the nanny Carly). anyhoo. Olivia shows up, and Olivia is like Nina skated, why, Carly. goes coz Sonny + Nina fell in love. Olivia brings up the fact all men are dogs, ie: Ned cheated (Bitch, shut up. you were having an emotional affair with Robert. NED. DIVORCE. OLIVIA). But she then brings up did you tell Carly about fallin in love with Jason. Carly Carly's so hard. "yes I fell in love, but Sonny came back, so I chose him. Sonny didn't do that." Um. yes he did, you dumbo. Sonny chose you. You are just pissed that he fell in love and still has feelings. (like YOU do for Jason). 

Anyway they bitch about Nina getting hers and how karma is coming for Nina. (shut up x2. )

I'm over Alexis right now. Instead of teaching law or something she's going to be an editor for a paper dedicated for justice? lol. honestly i give crap for Michael's being "granted" CEO, so Alexis being "granted" editor in chief where she has legit zero journalism experience is annoying. justfind a job where you can teach/advocate/mentor lawyers. it's not that complicated. anyway Ned comes up, and goes Luke is dead. Alexis is like what? Who told you. Tracy. Alexis has constipated face. 

Tracy has zero time for BLQ. BLQ is deflecting hard and takes the baby to deception. Tracy goes to see Ned. Alexis soapboxes how she can now be an editor and is going to write about privilege and the abuse of power. Me. *unamused face*.  are you going to write about your mobster friend's abusive of power because they are also privileged? 

there are some cut outs (crap). but gist is Sam and Alexis are like you are a fugitive! justice!!!. Tracy doesn't give a crap and then she's like look i'm already living with Monica and when she's not "It's My House!", she's crying over Yuri. (hahaha Yurica confirmed ;) you get some, Monica). anyway. Sam is all "tracy needs to pay for what she did to you." (okay. to be fair. Alexis got off that. She went to jail for stabbing Dante. so like. let it go). Sam calls Dante to come arrest Tracy.  Whatever.  Dante does what Sam wants and Alexis and Sam toast to it. (again whatever. I'm not defending Tracy's actions but Tracy did say outside of the Ned/Olivia thing, she also did it so Alexis could get sober/dry out and said so. Alexis didn't and then she stabbed Dante. so like. again. Whatever. be all smugcows)


Gladys is all i cry for you and Liam. Brando is like and Sasha, and Gladys is like oh yah right.Sasha is like yeah not here for breakfast.ready for work. they deploy ILY's. (I feel these are kinda ...route. but whatever). Gladys isn't buying Sasha's we're good. i can't remember if there was more. it was boring. I am tired.

Deception is going public. Lucy is like YAY GO US. yadayada, Sasha shows up, yada yada you shouldn't be there. Sasha is like. yeup i'm good. Bailey shows up and Sasha starts all. "awwww. baby, your parents will always have you..." now she's sads She runs off. and i legit thought she was going to pull out drugs (she doesn't. i'm slightly disappointed). 

Dante and Sonny are infodumping. Dante wants to know if Sonny WANTED Nina to stay over. Sonny is crying because he has feelings for Nina and can't get rid of them. Sonny is still blaming Carly for not turning around/coming to him sooner. Dante says stop telling me about this and tell Carly (ie: don't say "What do you want me to say, carly?)

Show ends with Sonny coming home and Carly looking annoyed. 

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