Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[sacrebleu]

So.... You're a pregnant OBGYN, new to NYC. You hire a nanny and leave her with strict instructions that if a man ever shows up, calling himself Julian or Charlie, you purposely mislead him about the baby's father, and call immediately to let me know. 

 

That's some next level foresight, I'm just sayi g, Helena would be impressed. 

[ouinason]

I NEED for Jason to be arrested by the NYPD for breaking and entering or something.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Well, if this was how Dr. NotCousins was turning out to be, I'm glad it wasn't the original Dr. Cousins! They recast just to kill him off? Good, since this was NOT Dr. Cousins! Shallow pool, he was fugly, shorter, and stockier. Blech. And where did all that aggressiveness come from, when he was like a puppy dog before? Eh, who cares? And how that knife flipped for him to stab himself, when the knife was pointed in Scotty's direction?

So, Ryan's awake. But is there anything going on behind those eyes?

Not a fan of Nik going down the intentional murder route, though that must now be part of his make-up since Tyler's Nik had framed Miller's Jason for his "murder"?

Regarding Sam and her loooooong, sonorous, draaaaaaged out confession to SheBeast, about why she split with Jaysus: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZ...like the viewers hadn't seen it the other day, or that Sam had already talked about these fears a few weeks ago, and SheBeast basically told her to suck it up.

And PUHLEAZE, Jaysus, with the "It's all my fault!" "I shoulda insisted no bebes!" And not that I care, or that Jaysus does, but what about Jake? Oh, right. Jake, who? The one he used to sneak visits with before Jake was "killed", and I guess he doesn't care because...Danny?

And it's hilarious to think of Mooby as the biggest baddest, scariest "mob" boss, when he has employees of one, not including the goons who play bodyguards. It's a joke. 

Worst Nanny ever, spilling all and sundry to someone who "admits" he's Charlie. So many eyerolls there. But of course it was all PLOT! just to show the viewers Cray Cray Kim had the bebe.

Oh Tracy! Whyyyyyy?????

[Hater]

Kelly is out of JaSam and is still sleepwalking. The scenes with Carly yesterday were snoozy like @GHScorpiosRule  said above. I used to like her with Billy's Jason and she slept walked with him too.  She had some moments during the cat poop story, but she's always been low energy and I don't see that changing simply because she's out of that pairing for now.  I welcomed Lindsay to the role because after three years I could finally understand what Sam was saying without mumbling, and I felt she brought way more life to a character that really should no longer be on the show at this point.  GH should really cut their losses here but they won't.

Edited December 12, 2020 by Hater

[nilyank]

57 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Well, if this was how Dr. NotCousins was turning out to be, I'm glad it wasn't the original Dr. Cousins! They recast just to kill him off? Good, since this was NOT Dr. Cousins! Shallow pool, he was fugly, shorter, and stockier. Blech. And where did all that aggressiveness come from, when he was like a puppy dog before? Eh, who cares? And how that knife flipped for him to stab himself, when the knife was pointed in Scotty's direction?

 

So with him being dead, how will Dante complete the mission if there is no one there to reinforce his programming? And Franco? I guess he is out of luck if the specialist can't treat him now.

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 minute ago, nilyank said:

So with him being dead, how will Dante complete the mission if there is no one there to reinforce his programming? And Franco? I guess he is out of luck if the specialist can't treat him now.

All that's needed is the clicking of a pen, as we saw what happened when Valentin clicked his pen when signing the custody arrangement with Charlotte.

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

1 hour ago, nilyank said:

So with him being dead, how will Dante complete the mission if there is no one there to reinforce his programming? And Franco? I guess he is out of luck if the specialist can't treat him now.

All that's needed is the clicking of a pen, as we saw what happened when Valentin clicked his pen when signing the custody arrangement with Charlotte.

Valentin appeared to notice the pen clicking then, so I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow becomes Dante's new handler. Or maybe Dr. O will return to Port Charles in secret and do it? 

Franco, though, seems SOL.

[CharethCutestory]

I just caught up on this weeks episodes so I'm late on this but the Liz/Sam discussion about Jason and how toxic his life is to anyone within a 100 mile radius was long overdue by like, a decade, but I'll take it and I did enjoy them having a genuine moment of camaraderie. I almost fell off the couch when Sam said she always admired Liz for kicking Jason to the curb to protect Jake and her kids years ago. They're really the only two who know what the other one is going through, tethered for life to Borg. Shebeast, much to her chagrin, never got to actually spawn with Jason. She lost Morgan and has had countless tragedies due to both Sonny and Jason but she's a sicko and ultimately thrives on it all. Mob moll to the end. 

If this Jason breakup actually sticks, and it looks like it will for a bit, I wonder where they'll take Sam next. If I were Kelly I'd either be doing cartwheels of joy in my dressing room that I'm free to get some new storylines or pacing with nerves that this is the foundation of my character's sendoff. If Drew is brought back that would be a nice way to have her exit with Scout and Danny. Pull a Robin and Patrick and go the rarely travelled happily ever after route. 

So the nanny is under strict orders by Kim not to tell Charlian that the baby is his. Which is a dud and a half of a revelation. I still think somehow its Franco's. Anyway, when the baby cries, instead of being like oh yeah, thats my baby and shut the whole thing down entirely she tells Julian that its Kim's baby and she was pregnant before she even left PC, didn't he know?? And his name is Andrew. LOL All that time to prepare a ruse and that's what she comes up with? Then she calls and tells Kim don't worry, he won't suspect a thing.

OMG WDV! You finally get to your barber and you go with that number? Or is it a hair piece? I'm not entirely sure what's happening there but it's tragic. 

 

Edited December 12, 2020 by CharethCutestory

[RedRockRosie]

7 hours ago, ouinason said:

I NEED for Jason to be arrested by the NYPD for breaking and entering or something.

How 'bout arrest him just cause...he's JAYSON. I think that's reason enough.

[One Tough Cookie]

9 hours ago, Hater said:

cat poop story

I'm sorry-WHAT?

 I  cannot fathom a nanny letting a total stranger  into the apartment. Just wrong on so many levels.

Sometime while watching the show {which I admit is not all that often]  I think--They cancelled All My Children for this? 😝

Edited December 13, 2020 by One Tough Cookie

[statsgirl]

7 hours ago, nilyank said:

So with him being dead, how will Dante complete the mission if there is no one there to reinforce his programming? And Franco? I guess he is out of luck if the specialist can't treat him now.

I'm expecting Franco, Liesl and Scotty will put the pieces together (Scot and Franco ask how it is that Liesl isn't locked up, she says Peter framed her and then Franco reveals that the voice in his head is Peter and they put the pieces together only much more sloooowwwlly). Franco's fear is that he's going back into serial killer mode; if he knows it's the implanted memory he wouldn't worry so much.

[Cheyanne11]

3 hours ago, CharethCutestory said:

So the nanny is under strict orders by Kim not to tell Charlian that the baby is his. Which is a dud and a half of a revelation. I still think somehow its Franco's. Anyway, when the baby cries, instead of being like oh yeah, thats my baby and shut the whole thing down entirely she tells Julian that its Kim's baby and she was pregnant before she even left PC, didn't he know?? And his name is Andrew. LOL All that time to prepare a ruse and that's what she comes up with? Then she calls and tells Kim don't worry, he won't suspect a thing.

Seriously, if Kim had already prepped her for Julian's possible appearance, why not have her say "Oh, Kim adopted a baby when she moved here?"  Boom, problem solved.  But, no, let's give him everything but the kid's DOB and blood type.  How did she manage to not add "and, no, just because he looks like you, doesn't mean he's yours.  Cause he's totally not." 

[Hater]

59 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

I'm sorry-WHAT?

 I  cannot fathom a nanny letting a total stranger  into the apartment. Just wrong on so many levels.

Sometime while watching the show {which I admit is not all that often]  I think--They cancelled All My Children for this? 😝

The last time Sam imo was likable outside of Lindsay's brief appearance was three years ago when she caught toxoplasmosis, a parasite from cat poop which then led to brain swelling. This caused her to hallucinate that Sonny was bad man and was going to take Jason away from her.  She ended up shooting Sonny and kicking him into a ditch.   

Edited December 13, 2020 by Hater

[One Tough Cookie]

24 minutes ago, Hater said:

brain swelling

Sam has a brain?😖

[ByaNose]

I thought the nanny was the Peloton lady. That’s all I could think of while I was watching her. Then she tells Julian everything and then tells Kim everything. Whatever. 
 
Sonny and Jason sitting in the car while Jason spills his guts and gets advice from Sonny. Um, not the best moral barometer I’d be talking to. Just sayin.

It’s great seeing Jane Elliott. She looks amazing. I’m not totally crazy about Tracey setting Alexis up but her heart is in the right place. LOL!!!!  

[ffwbe]

3 hours ago, ByaNose said:

I thought the nanny was the Peloton lady. That’s all I could think of while I was watching her. Then she tells Julian everything and then tells Kim everything. Whatever. 
 
Sonny and Jason sitting in the car while Jason spills his guts and gets advice from Sonny. Um, not the best moral barometer I’d be talking to. Just sayin.

It’s great seeing Jane Elliott. She looks amazing. I’m not totally crazy about Tracey setting Alexis up but her heart is in the right place. LOL!!!!  

I’m trying to figure out Tracy’s thought process. Getting Alexis out of town so she wouldn’t spill about the ONS made perfect sense but what does setting her up for a DUI do?

[bybrandy]

6 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Seriously, if Kim had already prepped her for Julian's possible appearance, why not have her say "Oh, Kim adopted a baby when she moved here?"  Boom, problem solved.  But, no, let's give him everything but the kid's DOB and blood type.  How did she manage to not add "and, no, just because he looks like you, doesn't mean he's yours.  Cause he's totally not." 

Or you know, "Yes, I'm her roommate and this is my baby..."   So many ways to give Julian less reasons to think spawn is his.  I mean if you were Julian and you'd be suspicious, right?  

What is the point of... well, I was going to say the baby...and YES... but having it be a boy.   I feel like we're running high on boys... although, I always forget about Donna and I guess Maxie is having a girl.... maybe... but still it feels like boy overload.   

Jason admitting out loud what we all know that he loves Danny and Sam but not nearly as much as Sonny and Carly?   I mean it is true... but an odd choice for a leadish character on your show.   

And while I am 10000% team Sam caring that Jason puts her kid in danger... I'm not sure what Jason living someplace else does to solve this situation.  I mean, unless Sam leaves and he never sees Danny again,  Danny is still a target so long as he's somebody Jason loves... not as much as Sonny.

[perkie1968]

16 hours ago, CharethCutestory said:

I still think somehow its Franco's.

I think it's 100% Franco's.  Kim and Julian did not have sex towards the end because he knew she wanted a baby to replace Oscar and told her no way.  So she turned to Franco, since he thought he was Drew and they did have sex at the beginning of Sept 2019, which would make a June 2020 baby.  Not sure why she would have told the nanny that the baby was Julian's unless she wanted him to be the baby daddy and how do you explain to the nanny that you forced yourself on a guy who thought he was your first baby daddy.  

The question for me is why have this story now with Kim gone and Julian on his way out and Friz/Franco already with a big story with the brain tumour/hearing voices.  

Edited December 13, 2020 by perkie1968

[Auntie Velvet]

On 12/12/2020 at 12:44 AM, RedRockRosie said:

Oh wow...that was a trip down memory lane! Now it's coming back to me. Thanks for that link!😊

Gosh, they were babies...but back then weren't we all?😉

Even back then, Mo was a little too slow on the uptake to handle crosstalk.

Jason (the character) I can solve all your problems. You say you love your family, but it's not "who you are" to live a conventional life? Great, because your wife has an established PI agency that she really should be paying attention to anyway. You guys could have exciting, Nick-and-Norah adventures and still be home for dinner. 

OK, so you wouldn't be physically protecting Sonny and Carly 24-7, but.... You are no spring chicken, Jason, so they should be transitioning to Brando anyway. And you could still help by looking into those oddly subtle threats Sonny always seems to get whenever a new mob boss is coming to town. (While I'm bossing you around, you really should be giving a little of your Quartermain/mob money to your other baby mama, who is struggling financially.)

Unfortunately, Jason, your portrayer seems to be determined to be a mob badass and share virtually all his screentime with Snarly,so this is all moot.  

[dubbel zout]

11 hours ago, ffwbe said:

I’m trying to figure out Tracy’s thought process. Getting Alexis out of town so she wouldn’t spill about the ONS made perfect sense but what does setting her up for a DUI do?

I get why Tracy doesn't want Alexis to spill the beans about the ONS, but Alexis was right earlier: It's going to come out sooner or later, so might as well rip of the bandage now. Olivia finding out later isn't going to magically make it less painful.

I guess the DUI puts Alexis in jail and out of Ned and Olivia's orbit for a while? (Assuming she is the one person who won't be allowed 24/7 visitors, heh.) Alexis will ostensibly sober up (for the time being) and realize she needs to keep her mouth shut? Something along those lines? What Tracy might not consider is that it could send Alexis deeper into drinking.

4 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

The question for me is why have this story now with Kim gone and Julian on his way out and Friz/Franco already with a big story with the brain tumour/hearing voices.  

More and more the show does this kind of thing. It makes no sense, so TFGH.

[Daisy]

Honestly. - though I am not going to hold my breath - when they decide to SORAS Jake/Danny etc again it would make my heart grow three sizes if they flat out tell Jason that they want absolutely nothing to do with him at all and nothing breaks that resolve (it was so nice when Michael finally told Carly and Sonny to kick a rock but that didn't last too long). Because "I love my kid to die for them, but I don't really want to inconvenience myself other than that" isn't love at all and I want Jason to feel that burn. 
 

[Asp Burger]

On 12/12/2020 at 10:30 AM, Hater said:

Kelly is out of JaSam and is still sleepwalking. The scenes with Carly yesterday were snoozy like @GHScorpiosRule  said above. I used to like her with Billy's Jason and she slept walked with him too.  She had some moments during the cat poop story, but she's always been low energy and I don't see that changing simply because she's out of that pairing for now. 

Agreed with all. I vividly remember one day coming here and transcribing what I thought I had heard in a lovey-dovey scene for Monaco and Miller (he was still playing Jason) just for the comedy, because there was not a single line I was sure of from either actor. They were both slurring and muttering. She's been low energy for years, with everyone. There was a period when anyone who brought it up risked a shaming from her fan base over her alleged scuba tragedy, but I don't get "partially deaf" from watching and listening to her, as much as "mostly checked out." Once in a while, as in the cat feces storyline, she doubles her effort and gives a "6" performance, but she'll be back in the 2-3 range eventually.

[ouinason]

I think this Franco thing is going to resolve quicker than we expect since the "voices" is jus the Drew memories resurfacing and the tumor is not back ( or there is a benign growth that just ... doesn't grow further and he's fine) and the real drama will come from the whole "oh crap, baby" thing instead.  Though, I really wish it was a girl because there are indeed too many boys on canvas compared to girls.

 

So, I did a recount and we are wrong you guys.  There are more girls than boys under the teenagers (Cam, Joss, Trina, Spencer)

 

Boys: Leo, Danny, James, Jake, Aiden

Girls: Charlotte, Avery, Violet, Georgie, Donna, Scout

Edited December 14, 2020 by ouinason
math

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 minutes ago, ouinason said:

I think this Franco thing is going to resolve quicker than we expect since the "voices" is jus the Drew memories resurfacing and the tumor is not back ( or there is a benign growth that just ... doesn't grow further and he's fine) and the real drama will come from the whole "oh crap, baby" thing instead.  Though, I really wish it was a girl because there are indeed too many boys on canvas compared to girls.

Except that he was told the tumor was inoperable, which means...terminal to me. I mean, does one use radiation on a benign growth? Of course, Frank could always retcon it back to oopsie! we wuz wrong! Removal of some of the tumor because of the bomb blast, just allowed for Drew's memories to commingle, so Heinrik can finally be exposed?

[ouinason]

5 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Except that he was told the tumor was inoperable, which means...terminal to me. I mean, does one use radiation on a benign growth? Of course, Frank could always retcon it back to oopsie! we wuz wrong! Removal of some of the tumor because of the bomb blast, just allowed for Drew's memories to commingle, so Heinrik can finally be exposed?

I'm thinking malpractice blamed on the new way GH is running (even though that is fucking stupid).

[nilyank]

2 hours ago, ouinason said:

So, I did a recount and we are wrong you guys.  There are more girls than boys under the teenagers (Cam, Joss, Trina, Spencer)

 

Boys: Leo, Danny, James, Jake, Aiden

Girls: Charlotte, Avery, Violet, Georgie, Donna, Scout

You forgot Rocco and Wiley.

 

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Except that he was told the tumor was inoperable, which means...terminal to me. I mean, does one use radiation on a benign growth? Of course, Frank could always retcon it back to oopsie! we wuz wrong! Removal of some of the tumor because of the bomb blast, just allowed for Drew's memories to commingle, so Heinrik can finally be exposed?

His tumor was inoperable but thanks to the bombing, Lucas was able to remove some of the tumor. He needs to get radiation immediately to see if they can reduce the tumor but then he was hearing those voices so he went off to Dr NotCousin.

[xfuse]

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I mean, does one use radiation on a benign growth?

Yes. I know someone in rl that has a benign tumor in her brain and has to get radiation every so often to try and shrink it or keep it from growing.

[perkie1968]

Those Naked Gun type shootouts always make me laugh.  Sonny, Jason and the shooter, within feet of each other, totally missing each other, until Jason manages to shoot him properly.  And of course, in the middle of it, Julian manages to run away.   

[statsgirl]

Last Tuesday Sam railed to Jason that Julian had withheld Wylie from Michael and that kind of person was absolutely the worst while Jason, who had done exactly the same thing with Michael and more, just sat there nodding in agreement. Today Sonny is determined to shoot Julian himself for that very thing, Sonny who had hung AJ from a meathook to get him to sign over his rights to Michael and is constantly threatening Ava to take Avery away from her. Does the hypocrisy of these people know no bounds? And of course Sonny thinks that the shooter is coming after him, after all no one else is important.

In better news, while I hate what Tracy is doing to Alexis, JE and NLG are really doing this storyline well and they seem to be having fun with it.

I also liked Obrecht cleaning up after SecondCousins (!) and starting to put together what's going on in Franco's head with Peter.

Jason saying that if Julian was smart, he wouldn't have gone to Cyrus. I have little time for Jason but he's so much smarter than Sonny is.

[dubbel zout]

"New York City, New York." Oh, Show. If you have "City," you don't need the state. They can't get anything right.

Sasha is an idiot to think her drug use would have no professional consequences.

For someone who ostensibly wants Julian dead, Sonny is hilariously reluctant to pull the trigger. So of course someone else actually shoots Julian. Another example of the show trying to have it both ways.

Tracy used to be a much better liar.

[lala2]

I didn't get to pay full attention to the show today, but as someone who normally dislikes Maxie and thinks of her as a ditz, she was incredibly prof'l and serious w/Sasha today. I was actually surprised. And Sasha's attitude was just strange to me. Did she really think she could OD and not face any consequences at work?!! Of course they have lost faith/trust in you, Sasha! I'm just not sure why they were writing her as so surprised about that. Also, she is more likely to relapse b/c she keeps trying to act like it's no big deal. Sasha needs to go to rehab and learn some coping skills! 

I think I heard Sonny say he was just gonna shoot if he saw Julian again . . . . well, I would hope so! I'm not sure why he was talking so much or what he was demanding. Dude, you won! Even Julian was like, "Just shoot me already." I hope this is the LAST we see of Julian! If he pops up again, I won't be mad at Sonny, Jason, or Cyrus for shooting him!  Why did he even go to Kim's place? They didn't part on the best of terms. I hate how weak they've written Julian. He should have been able to skip town w/o help. He should be able to disappear w/o help. This is lame and all in service to SaSon. It's silly. 

I missed a lot of the Franco stuff and will have to catch his scenes on YT later tonight. But. . . . yeah . . . . this tumor story has been poorly written. They spend, IMO, far too much time on CarSaSon and Millow crap when they could be fleshing out other stories. I also thought his tumor was still inoperable, but who knows? Maybe it no longer is. I honestly have no idea! 

[ulkis]

13 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

over her alleged scuba tragedy, but I don't get "partially deaf" from watching and listening to her, as much as "mostly checked out." 

I gave that story the side eye. Now after she claimed her lips were bigger because of a brown recluse spider bite, I give it twice the side eye.

They should have just written in that Sam is partially deaf, then I think she would have gotten less shit about the low talking.

Why didn't Jason get a vasectomy?

Edited December 14, 2020 by ulkis

[TeeVee329]

Maxie was a tad too snotty to Britt today about her asking to see James.  If, Maxie, as she herself said, was fine with Obrecht with hanging with him, it shouldn't be a big deal for Aunt Britt to pay him a visit.

And the tone didn't dissipate as she barreled right past the subject of her dead husband with barely any emotion to praise what a great dude LWB/FS is.  I cannot wait until the scales fall from her eyes at the double wedding, presumably.

ETA...I was actually hoping this conversation would have opened a door to a conversation about what happened to Lulu, I've been curious about Britt's feelings about it.  And then I would have understood Maxie being like, "I'm really upset about Lulu, and I'm remembering what went down there with you and her and Rocco, and it makes me not want you around me or my son right now."  But no.

Edited December 14, 2020 by TeeVee329

[dubbel zout]

37 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Now after she claimed her lips were bigger because of a brown recluse spider bite

For real? How convenient the effects are long-lasting.

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

Those Naked Gun type shootouts always make me laugh.  Sonny, Jason and the shooter, within feet of each other, totally missing each other, until Jason manages to shoot him properly.  And of course, in the middle of it, Julian manages to run away.   

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

For someone who ostensibly wants Julian dead, Sonny is hilariously reluctant to pull the trigger. So of course someone else actually shoots Julian. Another example of the show trying to have it both ways.

 

So basically, Mooby did what he always does--just mumbles and talks and shouts and shakily waves that gun in the person's face until:

• The would be victim gets away
• Someone else does the shooting
  • who is just as bad
  • or does the job

Did I miss anything?

 

[perkie1968]

5 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

So basically, Mooby did what he always does--just mumbles and talks and shouts and shakily waves that gun in the person's face until:

• The would be victim gets away
• Someone else does the shooting
  • who is just as bad
  • or does the job

Did I miss anything?

Nope, that was pretty much it...

Julian:  Just shoot me already

Sonny:  I'm going to take you to the police so you can tell them Cyrus forced you to plant the bomb,.

Julian:  Then Cyrus will kill me.  

Shot fired, looking like it hit Julian in the side.  He goes down.  Sonny hides behind a dumpster.  Jason shows up and hides behind a barrel (yep, i said barrel) as did the shooter.  Shoot, shoot shoot, miss miss miss, hit.  Oh the shooter is dead.  Where did julian go?  End scene.  

[ouinason]

4 hours ago, nilyank said:

You forgot Rocco and Wiley.

damn it!

 

Still, I thought the gender discrepancy was large and, counting those boys plus if Maxie has a girl and then Andrew, it's only two over.  Leaving room for trans and other non cis/het kids and we could have an actually interesting next generation if everyone weren't so.... related to each other.

 

and that's not even counting if BL turns up with a Q/Casidine kid.

[ulkis]

29 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

For real? How convenient the effects are long-lasting.

Seriously. I looked up a recluse spider bite - if it bites you it looks like a big and supperating.

Edited December 14, 2020 by ulkis

[bannana]

2 hours ago, ulkis said:

They should have just written in that Sam is partially deaf, then I think she would have gotten less shit about the low talking.

I didn't know this about KM. I have a friend who started going deaf at a youngish age (in her thirties), and even with hearing aids, has difficulty. And the worse it got the more of a low talker she became. So yeah, having it be part of Sam's character would make sense. It would also be good to create awareness as deafness is one of those things that really doesn't get much attention.

[Daisy]

5 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Last Tuesday Sam railed to Jason that Julian had withheld Wylie from Michael and that kind of person was absolutely the worst while Jason, who had done exactly the same thing with Michael and more, just sat there nodding in agreement. Today Sonny is determined to shoot Julian himself for that very thing, Sonny who had hung AJ from a meathook to get him to sign over his rights to Michael and is constantly threatening Ava to take Avery away from her. Does the hypocrisy of these people know no bounds? And of course Sonny thinks that the shooter is coming after him, after all no one else is important.

In better news, while I hate what Tracy is doing to Alexis, JE and NLG are really doing this storyline well and they seem to be having fun with it.

I also liked Obrecht cleaning up after SecondCousins (!) and starting to put together what's going on in Franco's head with Peter.

Jason saying that if Julian was smart, he wouldn't have gone to Cyrus. I have little time for Jason but he's so much smarter than Sonny is.

 

Well it doesn't take much to be smarter than Sonny so... 
 

but I flat out agree with everything you said. But there is no one really to slam that truth home. Whose going to bring up the Meathook? AJ is dead, Carly is in Sonny's crotch. so there's that dead end. Who is gonna bring up Avery? Ava has to play nice, Michael likes his parents. And the thing is. Why the hell does Sonny have to kill him? Michael has the baby back and the baby is fine. I could somewhat understand if Wiley/Jonah ended up dead or severely hurt or permanently disabled or something. But i mean. honestly as far as baby switches go. this one was pretty milquetoast.

 

[dubbel zout]

5 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Why the hell does Sonny have to kill him?

It's just the latest excuse Sonny has. He's never liked Julian, and he's been threatening for years to get rid of him. If the show thinks this makes Sonny look tough, they need to rethink that definition.

[Daisy]

Just now, dubbel zout said:

It's just the latest excuse Sonny has. He's never liked Julian, and he's been threatening for years to get rid of him. If the show thinks this makes Sonny look tough, they need to rethink that definition.

Yeah. they are both pathetic. 

though what i loved was that when they were shooting each other. Jason and Sonny were using their real names. It would have been awesome if someone witnessed that and said "Oh yah. Sonny and Jason. they went that away!"

[Blackie]

2 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

Shot fired, looking like it hit Julian in the side.  He goes down.  Sonny hides behind a dumpster.  Jason shows up and hides behind a barrel (yep, i said barrel) as did the shooter.  Shoot, shoot shoot, miss miss miss, hit.  Oh the shooter is dead.  Where did julian go?  End scene.  

 

you forgot Sonny walking out from behind the dumpster looking like he had been sleeping there. 

[statsgirl]

If anyone should have a vasectomy, it's someone who never wants kids but keeps causing pregnancies. But if Jason got a vasectomy, how would they be able to show what a manly man he is (unlike someone like Jax or Ned who have only one child)? The  problem, as always, is that they want their bad guys to be good which is why Wylie's "kidnapping" was a snooze, and Sam cannot be deaf because that would mean that Jason's woman is less than physically perfect. But they also want them to be big, scary mobsters too. It's a tough job.

5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Sasha is an idiot to think her drug use would have no professional consequences

Fixed that for you. Remember, Sasha thinks that Michael is amazing and every woman would be thrilled if he showed her attention

5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Tracy used to be a much better liar.

I got the impression that she has some regrets about trashing Alexis' life like that. She's been in  a bad, lonely place herself before.

I wish Chase would tell Finn what happened with Alexis and Finn start stepping up as part of her AA group. He needs something other than his wedding and problems and Diane's been useless for Alexis ever since she pushed Alexis to sleep with her therapist.

[Asp Burger]

13 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

"New York City, New York." Oh, Show. If you have "City," you don't need the state. They can't get anything right.

Hey, any viewers who thought there may have been other New York Cities in Wyoming, Oklahoma, and South Carolina can rest assured they were properly oriented.  

Kirsten Storms was good in the scene with Sasha, and I liked the use of her history as Lucky's supplier. We also got a reminder that Lucky is "forever in recovery in Africa, or something."  

"They sent a detective?" "Yeah, I happened to be nearby." Nice lampshading. We knew it was going to be Chase at the scene of the staged DUI. With Valerie off canvas, he's the General Hospital all-purpose cop.

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

We knew it was going to be Chase at the scene of the staged DUI. With Valerie off canvas, he's the General Hospital all-purpose cop.

That and the show is too damn cheap to use day players who could play a uniform. Then again, as I've stated in the past, this show has presented Chase as the ONLY cop who does everything. No other cops around. Oh except when there's a bombing or something.

Oh Mooby holding that gun against Julian was so laughable. Looking for any excuse NOT to shoot, but just to yell at him, because other than shooting Dante.In.The.Chest! This petulant whiny man-boy can't get his hands dirty. And the way he ran for cover behind the dumpster was hilarious. Some mob boss, that Mooby. Marlon Brando's Vito did a much better job. Mooby's all like "which way do I go, George, which way do I go?"

At least Julian found his balls.

Can Sasha just die of another overdose, please? "I am NOT an addict!" said every addict ever! Oh NOES! People will find out?! Nooo! I couldn't Staaaand iiiiiittttt! Nimrodic Maroon.

[Daisy]

39 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Oh Mooby holding that gun against Julian was so laughable. Looking for any excuse NOT to shoot, but just to yell at him, because other than shooting Dante.In.The.Chest! This petulant whiny man-boy can't get his hands dirty. And the way he ran for cover behind the dumpster was hilarious. Some mob boss, that Mooby. Marlon Brando's Vito did a much better job. Mooby's all like "which way do I go, George, which way do I go?"

LOL. and i'm surprised that that he even did that because Sonny didn't even look at Dante when he pulled the trigger. 

how Dante lied and then became all buddy buddy with sonny is so nauseating. dude shot you in the chest.

Also Alexis broke my heart 
"nobody cares about me anyway... 😞 "

 

[AryasMum]

Oh Tracy, your son is 60 years old, let him deal with his own marital woes. We know you’re a bad ass bitch, having withheld the cardiac medicine of the father you now worship, but come on with the villainous actions!

[Cheyanne11]

Of course Sonny, when given the chance to shoot Julian--something HE considers just--instead tries to talk him to death and in the interim some other dude--no doubt hired by the "real" bad guy, Cyrus--does the deed. 

Then Jason shows up, and other dude has a clear shot of him...and somehow misses and Jason kills him.  Because OF COURSE.

This show, this show...it wants it both ways.  It tells us all the freakin' time that even though Sonny and Jason are criminals, they're "good" ones.  But then any time anything criminal actually occurs?  They're only on the periphery. 

[perkie1968]

Today's episode:

The teens: I'm shocked that there is no proof in the medical records that Taggert is alive.  I mean it even has time of death.

Me:  Well yes, stupids if someone is going to go to all that trouble they are going to cross their Ts and dot their Is and not leave clues that the man really didn't die.

 

Jordan:  I need to talk to Taggert

Carly: Uh Taggert's dead, amirite?

Jordan:  I know that you know plu the kids hacked the computer

Carly:  Son of a bitch.   Calls Taggert, you need to meet with Jordan.  Calls Joss, get your ass over here so I can tear a strip off of it.

 

Martin:  Hey, I don't have many clients, since Nelle died on the  Pennsylvania side of the river and Julian stole my car, wanna sign back on with me?  Also evil Cyrus is my brother

Valentin:  Mkay

 

Curtis to Laura:  I have this ingenious plan that you will sign yourself into the institute so we can look for Florence Gray.  Nothing bad can possibly happen with this genius plan.

87 seconds later, Doctor Evil:  Why don't I inject you with whatever the hell brown stuff is in this syringe

Laura's eyes:  For effs sake, again?  Who thought of this plan because i"m way smarter than this

 

Jordan:  Someone saw you and told Trina

Taggert:  I swear, no one has seen me.  If you dont' count, Jason, Sonny, Epiphany, Carly, the guards, Julian, the banker, the candlestick maker and did I mention Julian