Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[CeChase]

2 hours ago, ciarra said:

Oh, but it's a raging torrent.  Under a footbridge. 

Maybe it's like the Metro Court Pool.  "Help, I'm drowning!".  "Stand up."

Maybe she'll end up on the Pennsylvania side of the river, and get to start her life all over.  It's like Felicia's tree proverb.  When's the best time to get out of Port Charles?  20 years ago.  When is the second best?  Right now.

This is an amazing post, and I didn't feel that liking it was enough. 

[DanaK]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

I want need Rocco and Danny in a scene together so I can tell them apart, LOL.

I have no trouble telling those two apart, it’s Danny and Aiden who I can’t tell apart

[Auntie Velvet]

On 9/18/2024 at 3:59 PM, dubbel zout said:

I laughed at the dramatic way they showed Alexis entering Pentonville. Hearing more than once that she's already been there undercuts the whole sequence. None of this is new to her.

When that female prison guard whipped her around to face forward and was making her wince a little as the guard was doing something rough to her back, all I could think was that it was the same sex choreography they always made her do with Julian. 

[Auntie Velvet]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Why is Ric so aggressively pursuing Elizabeth even as she says no? What is wrong with this show? Franco went after her in the creepiest ways and it was never properly acknowledged. And now Ric keeps pushing to have a relationship with Elizabeth when she's been very clear she's not interested.

My take was that this is only like the second time they've hung out, and the first time he asked if there was a chance. He was pretty respectful of her answer. (So far.)

[TVbitch]

When Jason is done pretending he knows how to play poker can he retrieve my car from the lot, it's the white Camry. ..I mean, could they not find a jacket for him that did not make him look like a last minute fill-in valet?! And I'm sorry, but he and Anna's phone stealing spycraft make Sam and Spinelli's work on Cates look like 007! 

[Mirabelle]

I wonder what the going rate is to play a comatose arm on a daytime soap.

How generous for Sandra Bullock to lend Anna her outfit from The Lost city. 

Joss and Jordan talking about organ donation when both their organs were stolen. 

Edited September 20 by Mirabelle

[Cheyanne11]

Amazing restraint by the writers to not have Joss extol the wonders of Jason after Jordan said Anna is determined and can get a job done. /s

Yeah, ES's latest return is just reaffirming to me how played out the character is.  And she's never been the strongest actress but it's glaring now.

[Bringonthedrama]

5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Why is Ric so aggressively pursuing Elizabeth even as she says no? What is wrong with this show? Franco went after her in the creepiest ways and it was never properly acknowledged. And now Ric keeps pushing to have a relationship with Elizabeth when she's been very clear she's not interested.

It's delusional for him to think Elizabeth would be interested in him at this point. The last time Ric disappeared was when Elizabeth was going to marry Jake Doe aka Drew, after Elizabeth discovered that Ric paid Hayden to appear on her doorstep, claiming to be the mysterious Jake's wife. At the time, Ric wanted Elizabeth and "Jake" apart so she would take him back; he didn't know Hayden and Elizabeth were half sisters and neither did they. 

Ric has always resented her attraction to and friendship with Jason as well. He pressured her to admit to her ONS with Jason when she was on the witness stand for Jason's murder trial. He gave her a lot of attitude about Jason after the trial, and she called him cruel. 

His obsession with Elizabeth is almost as creepy as the way Franco pursued her. And why would any woman want to date a man who is as hateful toward his ex-wife, who is a good mother to his daughter and her other daughters, as Ric is toward Alexis?  That's not even counting Ric's actions/behaviors when he was Elizabeth's husband. 

[ciarra]

Is there no ketchup in Port Charles?  Three servings of fries, and no Heinz in sight. 

[nilyank]

2 hours ago, Mirabelle said:

Joss and Jordan talking about organ donation when both their organs were stolen. 

Stolen from killers. If Franco was still alive, I am sure the show would have someone to cut out his liver and give a piece to Lulu.

[ByaNose]

7 hours ago, DanaK said:

I have no trouble telling those two apart, it’s Danny and Aiden who I can’t tell apart

I actually need a side by side by side. The only new teen I know for sure is Gio and he’s not even their vortex. I’m actually confused. Hudson West shot up on height this much I know but was he written out or replaced? I really do need a screen and/or head shots of the current Danny, Aiden and Rocco. They never seem to air the same day which confuses me even more. LOL!!!!

[Desperado]

Can’t tell them apart either, mostly because I don’t care. They’re only used to prop up (Jason) or tell on (Finn) characters, the writers don’t allow them to have personal stories.

Oh yeah, at one point one came out for a whole minute? No romance, nothing. He just bakes.

 

[GHScorpiosRule]

8 hours ago, ByaNose said:

Hudson West shot up on height this much I know but was he written out or replaced?

Hudson plays Jake, and it's not difficult to figure out who he is, as he's the best looking out of all the remaining three, and also the better actor. Jake is in Spain right now. Word was he's still with the show, but offscreen for now.

Danny I figured that actor either has braces or there's something weird with his teeth. The new Aiden looks too much like him for me to figure them out. Rocco? his hair is slightly darker, but none of the curly thing that the other two actors have going.

[Winston Wolfe]

16 hours ago, TVbitch said:

When Jason is done pretending he knows how to play poker can he retrieve my car from the lot, it's the white Camry. ..I mean, could they not find a jacket for him that did not make him look like a last minute fill-in valet?!

Heh. I was going to post: "Hey Jasus! Rick Blaine called from 1944 Morocco. He wants his jacket back."

In other news - the Insta-chemistry between Isaiah and Jordan is quite nice. They make an attractive couple and I'm glad Jordan has been saved from the Horror Show that is Brick (no last name, just "Brick").

Count me among those who wish that Col. Tad Parker had kept the facial hair and accent. In an odd reversal, shaving the goatee and mustache seems to have aged him, visually.

Edited September 20 by Winston Wolfe

[GHScorpiosRule]

26 minutes ago, Winston Wolfe said:

Count me among those who wish that Col. Tad Parker had kept the facial hair and accent.

What's really interesting? odd? Is that he didn't have the accent when he first showed up. Then suddenly he had the accent, which we all asked-at the time-where did that draaaawl come from? And now here we are, asking what happened to it!

[dubbel zout]

37 minutes ago, Winston Wolfe said:

Heh. I was going to post: "Hey Jasus! Rick Blaine called from 1944 Morocco. He wants his jacket back."

Rick Blaine's jacket was much better fitted. Wardrobe must have been taking a day off when SBu got that monstrosity he was wearing. He looks so terrible in it.

[Mirabelle]

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

What's really interesting? odd? Is that he didn't have the accent when he first showed up. Then suddenly he had the accent, which we all asked-at the time-where did that draaaawl come from? And now here we are, asking what happened to it!

Maybe he ran into that dialect coach at Kelly's and she cured him of the accent over lunch.

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Rick Blaine's jacket was much better fitted. Wardrobe must have been taking a day off when SBu got that monstrosity he was wearing. He looks so terrible in it.

I first thought he was wearing it inside out.

[statsgirl]

Now we know why Ric is being so pushy with Liz -- to set up a triangle with Lucky.

The Jason/Anna/Holly/Jenz story is like the old school capers of the 90s so I'm grateful for that.

Michael is complaining about Ned's running of ELQ and Lois is singing the praises of Sonny -- it must be a day that ends in 'day'.

Portia says bitchy things about Nina to Curtis, and then is all smiling to Nina in person. Why am I not surprised?

[pinkandsparkly13]

45 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Portia says bitchy things about Nina to Curtis, and then is all smiling to Nina in person. Why am I not surprised?

Lol..like she has any right to judge anyone. 

[dubbel zout]

"I have some plans for our family...." Curtis, have you shared those plans with your wife? And Portia didn't ask. Ugh, those two are such nimrods.

I'm so bored watching poker games. LOL that Anna tells Jason to do what Sam would do if he's stuck in a game. No one wants his boobs in their face, Anna.

21 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Now we know why Ric is being so pushy with Liz -- to set up a triangle with Lucky.

Ric doesn't have to be pushy to set up a triangle. Elizabeth isn't interested (and hasn't been since he returned), and Lucky isn't even in Port Charles yet.

Hey, Gio, shut up. You interrupted a conversation you have no place in.

[Desperado]

49 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

The Jason/Anna/Holly/Jenz story is like the old school capers of the 90s so I'm grateful for that.

I am too.

Also liked the imagined Liz/Lucky convo but making them a couple again, would be a regression.

Hated that a no Sonny ep had to have a character sing his praises ad nauseam.

[Melgaypet]

17 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

His obsession with Elizabeth is almost as creepy as the way Franco pursued her.

Here's where I confess to my great shallowness. Because this statement is true and I HATED Franco. To a worrying degree considering he's a fictional character. I never liked Ric either, despite recognizing that Rick Hearst is a talented actor. And Ric's still being an asshole.

But this silver fox look he's sporting? It's working for me.

[ComeWhatMay]

2 minutes ago, Melgaypet said:

Here's where I confess to my great shallowness. Because this statement is true and I HATED Franco. To a worrying degree considering he's a fictional character. I never liked Ric either, despite recognizing that Rick Hearst is a talented actor. And Ric's still being an asshole.

But this silver fox look he's sporting? It's working for me.

I loved RH as Alan-Michael on Guiding Light. He's aged like fine wine.

[Daisy]

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

Portia says bitchy things about Nina to Curtis, and then is all smiling to Nina in person. Why am I not surprised?

what's her glitch with Nina?

[statsgirl]

25 minutes ago, Daisy said:

what's her glitch with Nina?

I have no idea, other than she's a good friend of her husband Curtis.  Portia snarked about Nina sending Drew to jail but that's nothing to do with her.

[Daisy]

3 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I have no idea, other than she's a good friend of her husband Curtis.  Portia snarked about Nina sending Drew to jail but that's nothing to do with her.

lol oh so Portia is passing judgement about Nina reporting a crime while she has no problems committing them to keep someone in jail because she needs to pay for hers? Okay Portia. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 hours ago, statsgirl said:

The Jason/Anna/Holly/Jenz story is like the old school capers of the 90s so I'm grateful for that.

I don’t CARE about any of these ASSHOLES! I wanna know where the FUCK is Laura!FUCKING!Spencer???!!!!!!

[TVbitch]

Mob apologist robot Lois and her golden retriever Gio are so damn boring. Who freaking cares what Gio thinks about anything?! Make it go away!!!!! 

Edited September 20 by TVbitch

[Sake614]

Since I rarely pay close attention to Lois, I never really noticed before but if she truly has a Brooklyn accent, she would not be pronouncing’ and’ properly. It’s more of a nasal ‘eand’ sound. I’ve been hearing it my entire life and it always bugs. That and ‘aks’ instead of ‘ask.’ And now it bugs me lol!

so Ned and Sonny are alike? Well I can think of one way in which they’re very different: to my knowledge, Ned has never killed someone, or ordered a hit. And Gio, please shut up and go away. You’re a guest in Ned’s home. You don’t get to barge in and tell him he’s out of line, especially when you have no idea what’s happening.

let me guess…Lucky will escape and Anna, Jason and Holly will be cell mates at Sidwell’s camp. For two former spies, neither one of them is very. Discreet ….I did enjoy lucky’s hallucination of Liz, but I’m already sick of the whole ‘I couldn’t be the father Aiden deserves so I left. I had no choice. I couldn’t risk you seeing me flawed.’ WTAF?

im surprised Michael didn’t pitch a fit when Drew told him that Curtis would be the acting CEO. And Drew, stay the hell away from Willow! At this point it’s getting creepy. ‘Nothing happened and nothing will happen.’ Then why do you keep following her?????

oh well at least it was one day without Sonny and his family drama.

34 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I wanna know where the FUCK is Laura!FUCKING!Spencer???!!!!!!

The whole trip was engineered to coincide with GF’s vacation so don’t expect to see Laura until Lucky is back in PC safe and sound. And of course he’ll be the perfect liver donor despite his boozing and drugging, which everyone and their sister seems to have forgotten about! And Isaiah will naturally perform the surgery since he’s a renowned transplant surgeon. Then they’ll all join hands and sing kumbaya. 🙄

[Auntie Velvet]

Portia is something else. She didn't want Trina working for Ava. She didn't want Trina dating Spencer. She didn't want Curtis doing something or other (can't even remember now.) Now she thinks the freakin' Quartermaines are too dangerous? 

ETA  I saw a synopsis somewhere that there were supposed to be Robert/Jack scenes today, but there weren't, sadly. 

Edited September 20 by Auntie Velvet

[dubbel zout]

I forgot to mention how satisfying it was to see Michael get shut down by both Ned and Drew when it comes to business.

1 minute ago, Auntie Velvet said:

Portia is something else. She didn't want Trina working for Ava. She didn't want Trina dating Spencer. She didn't want Curtis doing something or other (can't even remember now.) Now she thinks the freakin' Quartermaines are too dangerous?

And she's messing with Heather's blood tests. What an unpleasant woman. Poor Brook Kerr.

[JMO]

DZ continues to impress me by bringing just the right tones to his scenes.  I just find him very believable as a man who is emotionally battered but still managing to stand up to his responsibilities as a work partner, romantic partner, loving ex-husband and father.  

Speaking of standing up to responsibilities......I liked Lucky's hallucination-induced conversation with Liz, but I would have loved it a thousand times over if it had been a real conversation between the two.  I just don't think the writers are brave enough to go there.

Dr. Isaiah would be a welcome addition to the cast, but I still think Jordan has more chemistry with Drew.  

I don't think the writers have a clue what to do with Gio.

[Ambrosefolly]

10 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Hudson plays Jake, and it's not difficult to figure out who he is, as he's the best looking out of all the remaining three, and also the better actor. Jake is in Spain right now. Word was he's still with the show, but offscreen for now.

Hudson West should have positioned as the new Jonathan Jackson. I am not saying tons, but he should have been a supporting player during the year and maybe a kid centric storyline during the summer, if he was opened to it. But we had terrible storylines involving NB’s Spencer being a huge brat. They also wasted Tequen Richmond when he was playing TJ. Now the audience doesn’t have much affection for the character, because he wasn’t properly built up.

[Winston Wolfe]

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Hey, Gio, shut up. You interrupted a conversation you have no place in.

Back in the day, in my family, he would have heard, "Grown folks are talking. Why are you standing here looking in my mouth? Go outside!" Although the way RF played it, she subtly shifted from her "proper" way of speaking back to Lois' native accent at Gio's prodding, so I guess it's back to Bensonhurst for good.

In a related theme - Anna won over Holly in the battle of English accents. Anna's accent sounds much more polished and cultured.

Curtis's "but I did my hair for tonight" was 24k Gold. Let's put a fiver in the writer's tip jar for that one..I actually LOL'd.

The "Rescue Lucky" S/L really does have 90s vibes - the writers really do seem to be trying for a change - but something's missing.

[YaddaYadda]

17 minutes ago, Winston Wolfe said:

The "Rescue Lucky" S/L really does have 90s vibes - the writers really do seem to be trying for a change - but something's missing.

Talent?

[Mirabelle]

Lois acknowledges the boathouse is still a crime scene. Yet the Scorpios had brunch there and Willow was doing yoga there while Drewfus was oily there. Surprised Michael didn't tell the kids staying at the Quatermaine Home for Slightly Deviant Children to have a water balloon fight to really contaminate the crime scene. 

Gee, Lois, I think steering one cousin to a life of crime and MURDERING the other is a pretty good reason to hold a grudge against someone. 

Edited September 21 by Mirabelle

[Artsda]

What the hell was that with Lois comparing Sonny and Ned to Gio. 

Firstly he's a guest in Neds house so he can shut up and Lois isn't family anymore either so she can also shut up. Sonny murdered AJ, I wish someone was allowed to say that. He also did murder Jagger Ned is not wrong. Michael knows it.

Ned and Sonny are nothing alike. 

 

 

Edited September 21 by Artsda

[Mirabelle]

The outfits at the Savoy seem so much more put together and sophisticated than the outfits at the high end casino. Holly's hair ornament looks like it was made out of high grade aluminum foil. 

[statsgirl]

2 hours ago, JMO said:

 I don't think the writers have a clue what to do with Gio.

It has the feel of "Look, we hired this impressive guy" and now they're stuck because they have no story for him. He drifts among the character being used for exposition.

But at least it's better than what they have for Dex who really is just a day player unless he's having sex with Joss.

2 hours ago, Ambrosefolly said:

They also wasted Tequen Richmond when he was playing TJ. Now the audience doesn’t have much affection for the character, because he wasn’t properly built up.

I had a slight fondness for TJ in the Richmond years but the current surrogate storyline has ruined him, not the lack of writing. I don't think anyone could survive the selfish, angry person TJ is today.

1 hour ago, Winston Wolfe said:

The "Rescue Lucky" S/L really does have 90s vibes - the writers really do seem to be trying for a change - but something's missing.

Story. And heart. It's like they're saying "we brought back Holly and gave you a villain in an exotic location, what more do you want?

Me: Good writing for one.

[Mirabelle]

I'd enjoy Gio more if he literally just played the violin in the background providing the audience cues on what they should be feeling like a one man Greek chorus. He really is pointless like 1/3 of the cast.

The Liz/Lucky conversation would have been more meaningful if Lucky had also mentioned Cam and Jake. Lucky should be feeling guilty for far more than abandoning Aiden.

 

Edited September 21 by Mirabelle

[statsgirl]

double post

Edited September 21 by statsgirl

[ulkis]

7 hours ago, JMO said:

Speaking of standing up to responsibilities......I liked Lucky's hallucination-induced conversation with Liz, but I would have loved it a thousand times over if it had been a real conversation between the two.  I just don't think the writers are brave enough to go there.

I think they are and I think they will get there.

The scenes reminded me of this dialogue between Lucky and Nik from 2011:

Nikolas: Now, I don't do this very often. I don't think I ever have. But you are my brother and you're gonna listen to me right now. You understand? You understand me?

Lucky: Yeah.

Nikolas: When you're lying on your death bed and you're about to take your last breath, what do you think you're gonna think about? Huh? Some big case that you cracked that nobody else could solve? Some nice vacation that you took with all your friends? Not even that intervention that you had with Luke that apparently didn't do any good. You're not gonna think of any of that stuff. You're gonna think of one thing and one thing only. And that is... just before you pass and you hold your hand out, the only thing that you are gonna care about is whose hand is on the other end, brother. That is it. If you can answer that riddle... then you've figured it all out.

On 9/19/2024 at 10:03 PM, Cheyanne11 said:

Amazing restraint by the writers to not have Joss extol the wonders of Jason after Jordan said Anna is determined and can get a job done. /s

Yeah, ES's latest return is just reaffirming to me how played out the character is.  And she's never been the strongest actress but it's glaring now.

You're speaking @Francie's language.

[ulkis]

On 9/19/2024 at 2:13 PM, ciarra said:

Oh, but it's a raging torrent.  Under a footbridge. 

I've been across footbridges over the Delaware River that if I fell off I'd be done. 

[CeChase]

I think the kid who plays Gio is actually talented and it's such a shame they haven't written for him.  He was brought on for Trina, from what we were told, but they're not writing for Trina either, so who knows what's going to happen.  

I honestly hate Lois and having her be the mob defender is really hurting the character, especially for those like me, who never saw her original run.  I don't care about her at all, I have zero fond memories or attachment.  To me all she is yet another Sonny apologist and butt kisser. 

Ned is NOTHING like Sonny.  That was absurd and disgusting honestly. 

Edited September 21 by CeChase

[jsbt]

I am barely watching atm til Lucky and Laura, etc. reunite but damn, JJ and Becky still got it. And I was not one of their stans back in the day. As I've said before, their romance was too saccharine for me when they were young. Not anymore.

GH is once again doing one of my pet peeves though, something that has plagued Frank Valentini's soaps since OLTL. They too often have characters talk shit out in dreams or hallucinations or whatever and then never get around to the actual discussion IRL because Frank needs another handful of 90 second scenes for Violet, Carly or Jason. The attitude becomes 'you got those fantasy scenes, right?' (This is the same lazy attitude that governs stuff like only focusing on Lucky's biological child vs. the other two sons he actually raised.) No! So whenever LL2 do link up again for real they better get to business.

Edited September 21 by jsbt

[Maelstrom]

4 hours ago, CeChase said:

I think the kid who plays Gio is actually talented and it's such a shame they haven't written for him. 

Same here, I think he’s a great find that they’re completely wasting (GH’s signature move). If I was 20 years younger I could develop a pretty hefty tv crush on him. He and Trina could be a great couple if they’d just write them a damn story.

[dubbel zout]

17 hours ago, JMO said:

I don't think the writers have a clue what to do with Gio.

For one thing, they can't decide if he's going to be in a triangle with Joss/Dex or be Trina's new boyfriend.

14 hours ago, Mirabelle said:

Gee, Lois, I think steering one cousin to a life of crime and MURDERING the other is a pretty good reason to hold a grudge against someone. 

But, but, but...there's no man more generous than Sonny!

14 hours ago, Artsda said:

Lois isn't family anymore

She's BL's mom, so that makes her family, IMO. That doesn't mean she has to insert herself into every Q affair, though.

9 hours ago, ulkis said:

On 9/19/2024 at 2:13 PM, ciarra said:

Oh, but it's a raging torrent.  Under a footbridge. 

I've been across footbridges over the Delaware River that if I fell off I'd be done.

That's because you weren't on the Pennsylvania side.

Edited September 21 by dubbel zout

[jsbt]

If it's a triangle with Joss, Dex and Gio I have my money on Dex picking Gio. I'm just saying. He's at least as pretty as Joss.

[Maelstrom]

Gio's prettier, and doesn't wear five pounds of makeup all the time.

[Lugal]

10 hours ago, CeChase said:

I think the kid who plays Gio is actually talented and it's such a shame they haven't written for him.  He was brought on for Trina, from what we were told, but they're not writing for Trina either, so who knows what's going to happen.

I maintain my theory that he was originally a Spencer recast but at the last minute Frank decided to make him a new character.  For Some Reason.

19 hours ago, Artsda said:

Ned and Sonny are nothing alike. 

Yeah, we actually like Ned.

On 9/19/2024 at 1:18 PM, statsgirl said:

Joss sure is giving out the free food today.

Also Joss, tie your hair back.  It's a health code violation!