2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers

[Christineelgene]

2 hours ago, MrsEVH said:

No she did not.  Sydney was a DCC for 7 years (2008-2014).

I looked at the 2012, 2013,  & 2014 squad pictures which were her 5th, 6th, and 7th years. 

My guesses are Whitney I in 2012, Jackie B in 2013, and Holly H in 2014. If I'm wrong someone please correct me. There were a few girls who stayed past 5 years ( Trisha T, Sydney, Jenna) who probably hoped to get PBC but did not.

Nicole Bulcher was 2014-2015 PB.  Holly H. was 2015-2016.

This site has individual, and group pics from the beginning to present.

https://www.pompedia.com/index.php?title=Dallas_Cowboys_Cheerleaders_of_2014_-_15

[MTTFan]

1 hour ago, parrotfeathers said:

But she didn't make the team.  We saw what CMT wanted us to see.  At least that's what I believe.

Maybe -- but Kelli is an executive producer and you can't cut and edit in what isn't there.

[MrsEVH]

11 minutes ago, Christineelgene said:

Nicole Bulcher was 2014-2015 PB.  Holly H. was 2015-2016.

This site has individual, and group pics from the beginning to present.

https://www.pompedia.com/index.php?title=Dallas_Cowboys_Cheerleaders_of_2014_-_15

Thanks. I knew I was probably guessing on Holly H. 

For 2017-18 I'm not surprised they omitted Alexandria but surpised they kept Kalyssa and Milan's pictures.

For 2009 Brandi Kilby was omitted from the rookie section and she finished her rookie season.

Edited July 21, 2019 by MrsEVH

[MTTFan]

43 minutes ago, Tootie said:

Am I the only that that thinks that this is a rip off of the MNF theme idea?

Who is the singer?

[HowdeeDo]

I love the new intro, it’s been a long time coming. Now i they’d just retire Thunderstruck...

#itsbeen10years

[go4luca]

19 minutes ago, HowdeeDo said:

I love the new intro, it’s been a long time coming. Now i they’d just retire Thunderstruck...

#itsbeen10years

Agree about Thunderstruck but not a fan of the new intro.  Can't pinpoint exactly why.  Hope it grows on me.

[scorpio1031]

5 minutes ago, go4luca said:

Agree about Thunderstruck but not a fan of the new intro.

Where are you all seeing the new intro??

Edited July 21, 2019 by scorpio1031

[Lunacat]

44 minutes ago, MrsEVH said:

Thanks. I knew I was probably guessing on Holly H. 

For 2017-18 I'm not surprised they omitted Alexandria but surpised they kept Kalyssa and Milan's pictures.

For 2009 Brandi Kilby was omitted from the rookie section and she finished her rookie season.

Can someone remind me why Brandi kilby got cut from the website? What went down with her?

[scorpio1031]

3 minutes ago, Lunacat said:

Can someone remind me why Brandi kilby got cut from the website? What went down with her?

It's a mistake - she finished her full year.

[go4luca]

17 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

Where are you all seeing the new intro??

We are guessing the DCCMakingtheteam post above might be the new intro.  It may not be.  New promo would be a better choice of words.

Edited July 21, 2019 by go4luca
clarification

[TB12]

Not to beat a dead horse here but I still cannot believe Veruca K made SG, I keep thinking back to that scene last year in the office when she said she was upset bc she didn't make it then. TPTB have turned DCC into a joke which could be why the audition numbers are decreasing yearly. How could they reward her rotten behavior? Kelly seems to be living vicariously through Icky Vicky by having her "daughter" on the squad.

Also, let's not push for a larger squad bc I could totally see Tina Kalina forcing her way back onto the squad to be the first mother daughter duo! And hell Kitty prob thinks she could make a comeback too... 

[MrsEVH]

19 minutes ago, Lunacat said:

Can someone remind me why Brandi kilby got cut from the website? What went down with her?

Nothing happened, she finished her rookie season. Brandi was going to audition for another year but changed her mind. She auditioned for the 2010-11 Laker Girls, made the team but left early because she was pregnant. 

[scorpio1031]

The players are supposed to arrive in Oxnard this Thursday, with practice on Saturday, so we should have an idea by next weekend of some kind of formation - maybe:)  

Since they will be in California the week that MTT premieres, I wonder if the girls will make the PR rounds, or if that will be Melissa R again.  I say Melissa, cause not only can she discuss MTT, the Bachelor, and DWTS, but she got sick in the DR, and survived.  The shows can get their money's worth.

[LincolnCentMe]

5 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

I read "somewhere" that TPTB didn't care for Sidney?   

I didn’t care for her either. 

[bupbupbip]

Sorry, but what does "TPTB" mean!?

[Pau84]

3 minutes ago, bupbupbip said:

Sorry, but what does "TPTB" mean!?

The Powers That Be

[IHopeUDance]

Q: If they did... what song would you suggest to replace Thunderstruck? 

[EricaShadows]

3 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

But she didn't make the team.  We saw what CMT wanted us to see.  At least that's what I believe.

Yes, she didn't make the squad and her OWN actions (for the most part) are why she didn't.  She gained at least 11 pounds DURING TRAINING CAMP and that was even after coming in heavier then the other girls.  She was an appearance risk and KaShara even said about her "Did you think about it before you said it?" which indicates that Victoria spouts things off WITHOUT thinking about it which feeds right back into the appearance risk.  She LIED to Jinelle and even lied to Kelli in the office and it was caught on camera (which we saw).  There were likely other things, but Kelli STILL tried to put her on the squad to the point where Kelli kept her until the last scheduled night of Training Camp before cutting her and these were only what we knew about.

I do put some of this on Kelli because she kept Victoria on despite everything Victoria did which, in the past, would have gotten any other girl cut (and has).  However, that doesn't excuse ANYTHING that Victoria did, which other girls were not allowed to get away with.

As for the editing, we got very good evidence WHY Victoria didn't make the squad.  We also saw that Kelli was doing everything she could to make that happen.  I would like to see what WASN'T aired because that might help explain things, but then we'd STILL get the "it was all edited" and "reality shows aren't REAL" and "you weren't there so how would you know?" type comments.

[scorpio1031]

15 minutes ago, IHopeUDance said:

Q: If they did... what song would you suggest to replace Thunderstruck? 

I'd like to see them go back to using different songs thru the season.  They could always take a couple of the sideline dances and expand upon them as well.

[Dnst1973]

21 hours ago, Bellisima08 said:

I just binge watched season 13 OnDemand and the favortism towards VK is clear from the start. Some of the best examples: during her solo one of the female judges (can't recall her name but she was the one who later asked them questions in the faux TV interviews) started tearing up & getting very emotional & Marshall gave her this look like "I don't get why you're making such a fuss." Then later on when they were reviewing their performances, one of the male judges called VK soft & mentioned how she flailed around & Kelli narrowed her eyes & said "oh really". Then there was the whole thing with her weight gain & how they even let her get 11 pounds heavier when they have busted others cheerleaders for gaining less. And let's not forget Kitty brushing aside VK's weight gain & telling Kelli to give her a chance to turn it around, while in the same  breath she's picking on Vets for their hair or not being noticable.

The hypocrisy too is stunning particularly when it comes to how Dayton was treated compared to VK. Dayton was called out far more often for mistakes whereas when VK messed up, she was treated with kid gloves & called "a beautiful storm." The big thing that ticked me off (knowing what I know now) was Kelli telling Dayton that she wouldn't be getting a spot because of who her mother is. I laughed out loud when that scene came up because we all know that she promised VK a spot due to her closeness to Tina. Its just amazing to me that Kelli & Judy are risking the integrity of the whole training camp process for just one girl.

This! Dayton was treated much more harshly than VK. (She also handled it better. And was gorgeous in the uniform.) 

I think we’ve all come in contact with a VK. It’s demoralizing, toxic and at times not worth it.

I worry for the other girls. For the ones who bust their ass to get there. Those women have my respect. 

[HowdeeDo]

13 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

I'd like to see them go back to using different songs thru the season.  They could always take a couple of the sideline dances and expand upon them as well.

This. There’s tons of songs on top 40 right now with the same beat or something easily remixable to fit the routine choreo. 

But they could always change the choreo too...Look, I fully believe the DCC are the best NFL squad, but considering they’ve been doing the same pregame for over a decade now (with a few changes and switching 8 counts here and there) are they really deserving of that title these days? We pick on other squads with less technical abilities, but if they’re pumping out different routines more often that’s a given.

i just think it’s well past time for them to change things up before people really start to get bored as well. 

[Jazzmom]

Cameo day!

[scorpio1031]

6 minutes ago, HowdeeDo said:

This. There’s tons of songs on top 40 right now with the same beat or something easily remixable to fit the routine choreo. 

But they could always change the choreo too

The last year they were in Texas Stadium, they did routines to Pink and Kevin Rudolph - all different choreo.  The first year, ATT stadium was open, they did different routines - different songs and choreo.  Quite a few videos on YouTube.  And to be totally snarky, it's not like they always come up with new choreo anyway - like Rachel W said last year "all these dances kind of feel the same."  LOL!

[Jazzmom]

[chrishunt]

23 minutes ago, HowdeeDo said:

This. There’s tons of songs on top 40 right now with the same beat or something easily remixable to fit the routine choreo. 

But they could always change the choreo too...Look, I fully believe the DCC are the best NFL squad, but considering they’ve been doing the same pregame for over a decade now (with a few changes and switching 8 counts here and there) are they really deserving of that title these days? We pick on other squads with less technical abilities, but if they’re pumping out different routines more often that’s a given.

i just think it’s well past time for them to change things up before people really start to get bored as well. 

I understand that Thunderstruck is considered largely overdone by a lot of people on this forum, but with that being said I also think we underestimate how strong tradition is in the South. I truly believe many Cowboys fans would be outraged if America’s Sweethearts came out and initially danced to a different song with different choreo. It’s what they’re known for. Same thing for the uniform- fans are outraged when it changes.

[HowdeeDo]

3 minutes ago, chrishunt said:

I understand that Thunderstruck is considered largely overdone by a lot of people on this forum, but with that being said I also think we underestimate how strong tradition is in the South. I truly believe many Cowboys fans would be outraged if America’s Sweethearts came out and initially danced to a different song with different choreo. It’s what they’re known for. Same thing for the uniform- fans are outraged when it changes.

I’m from the South, I get tradition, but this is dance we’re talking about. 

And they dance pre-game while the stadium is about half full anyway. I doubt people are that attached to thunder when they’re typically waiting in line for a beer at that time. 

[PrincessLeia]

Thunderstruck is hugely popular and it’s not going anywhere. People just expect it at the games. Even when I hear that song at orange theory I start doing the dance in my head. 

[Bellisima08]

20 hours ago, dbell1 said:

With a heat wave on, I've binged on S13 all weekend. So sick of all the reality show commercials. (shove off Chicago Ink and The Hills). 🙄 But even more sick of that pile of teeth and hair hijacking the season. Kelly dragged some obvious cuts out too far. And Kitty needs declawing.

Oh my God those reality show commercials are the worst! I don't get why ads for MTV shows are being featured on CMT's channel, but OnDemand has it set so you can't fast-forward through them (even though on other networks you can skip commercials once a certain amount of time has passed). I found the ads for Teen Mom & The Hills particularly annoying.

After re-watching all of last season, is it just me or did Kitty seem like she was being extra catty (pun intended) whenever she was on camera? I can recall some years where she wasn't around as much, but it seems like she been given more freedom to be a bully...I mean speak her mind. I mean yeah she's always outspoken, but it just felt more in your face or maybe that was due to her preference for VK.

[Sillisusu]

Refresh my memory - how do we know that Kellie promised TK that VK would make the team? Not that I don’t believe it. I’m just too lazy to go through all of last year’s posts. Thanks in advance!

1 minute ago, Sillisusu said:

Edited July 22, 2019 by Sillisusu

[scorpio1031]

27 minutes ago, Bellisima08 said:

I mean yeah she's always outspoken, but it just felt more in your face or maybe that was due to her preference for VK.

Last season, she went after Madeline, Miranda and Tara.  She told K&J that there were other girls that they should go after for attitude.  And just recently, we heard Milan on that podcast saying that Kitty went after her for choosing college over show group cause she thought she was better than everyone else.  She's a lot more outspoken over things she never worried about before.  As VK would put it, she's coming in like a "bull in China"  😂.  Hate to say it, but that expression is growing on me:)

[M1977G]

I recall reading a Q & A with Judy a few years ago online. She said she hated the stool but they made her sit on it, and she said that doing Thunderstruck at every game was a mandate that came down from on high and is not something within her and Kelli's control. I'm sure it's tied to Cowboys branding and marketing strategies and it is a part of their brand recognition now. So, you know, if the Jones clan thinks it's part of what makes them rich, it will stay. Also, I can imagine that someone made a huge deal with some entity tied to the song royalties, so again, I think money is involved and that the persistence of T-struck is about the money or what they perceive is helping to make their money.

[scorpio1031]

3 minutes ago, M1977G said:

She said she hated the stool but they made her sit on it, and she said that doing Thunderstruck at every game was a mandate that came down from on high and is not something within her and Kelli's control. 

I can believe it.  Re-watching season 8 or 9, I think - but they got an email at midnight before the first home game telling them about a new touchdown dance they had to do.  So it's not like anyone in the organization thinks of the cheerleaders when it comes to music played at a game.

[ShellyB]

5 hours ago, go4luca said:

We are guessing the DCCMakingtheteam post above might be the new intro.  It may not be.  New promo would be a better choice of words.

It is the new intro...sung by Cassadee Pope. 

Edited July 22, 2019 by ShellyB

[scorpio1031]

6 minutes ago, ShellyB said:

It is the new intro...sing by Cassadee Pope. 

So VK did make the intro😂

[M1977G]

Changing the subject a bit, but, regarding DCC diversity: I was just looking at that Pompedia site posted above and I see that the DCC had more black cheerleaders in 1973--in what was still basically the Jim Crow South--than they do right now. And that still will be the case if Kat makes the team. I've always thought that they should do some serious recruiting with HBCU dance teams, of which there are plenty in the region. And it's so ridiculous that it's Texas and they always have so few Latinas and most of them are white-passing or close to it. With Lacey gone and Alexandra cut, are there any Latina contenders for this year's team? And with Gabby cut and Yuko retired, I think Chandi is the only candidate of Asian descent this year. Not that I'm saying anything new, but: not a good look for the DCC, if they really want to be America's Sweethearts representing America's Team. The DCC do targeted recruiting and have done so for years. I think it's time they revise their strategy. If you want to recruit the best of the best and have a truly diverse pool of candidates, you need to recruit heavily and widely. If they already are recruiting at HBCUs, they're not doing a good job and need to rework their tactics (I can't recall any black DCC graduating from an HBCU since I started watching in season 3). Kelli has mad respect for marching bands, and many college black marching bands are the shit--and I know she knows this--and it's with these bands that a lot of very talented, disciplined, well-educated women of color are trained and can be found. Send some black DCC alumni to recruit at these schools!! And surely there are Latinx dance troupes and such in Texas that they can reach out to to try to draw in more Latinas, etc. 

Speaking of recruiting, like others have mentioned before, I'd really like to hear/see more about the scouting and prelims free-passes the DCC do to recruit. I recall that Sydney Durso (one of my faves even if she's not a forum fave!) and Katie Marie (now Cherry, another of my faves) both were invited to audition and got to skip round one auditions. But I didn't learn that on the show and it would be an interesting thing to see from behind the scenes after so many years.

Edited July 22, 2019 by M1977G

[Loves2Dance]

7 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

But she didn't make the team.  We saw what CMT wanted us to see.  At least that's what I believe.

Kelli and Char are executive producers of the show; we saw what they wanted us to see too. 

[parrotfeathers]

12 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

Kelli and Char are executive producers of the show; we saw what they wanted us to see too. 

I worded my comments wrong of course.   My intention of "she didn't make the team" was simply to point out that she didn't.  So many posts said "she was promised a spot" that in another 2 years people will forget she didn't and she will be a 2 year veteran before she even finishes her rookie year.  I do agree with everyone that her behavior was not the best and what was portrayed actually happened.  

Edited July 22, 2019 by parrotfeathers

[Loves2Dance]

2 minutes ago, parrotfeathers said:

I worded me comments wrong of course.   My intention of "she didn't make the team" was simply to point out that she didn't.  So many posts said "she was promised a spot" that in another 2 years people will forget she didn't and she will be a 2 year veteran before she even finishes her rookie year.  I do agree with everyone that her behavior was not the best and what was portrayed actually happened.  

Just because she didn't make the team, doesn't automatically mean she wasn't promised a spot on the team. I think, based off Kelli's words, body language and reactions, she never expected Vikkie to enter training camp and be the hot mess she was. In truth, Vikkie cost herself her spot and Kelli may, or may not, have had to break any promises she made. 

[Holly85]

[scorpio1031]

2 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

Re-watched season 13 where she just brings it to auditions.  This is a beautiful pic:)  Love the background as well.

[Pebbles116]

14 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

I just adore Erin. I think she is so underrated around these parts but she and Caroline are KILLER. Sigh.

[DCCFanInKy]

4 minutes ago, Pebbles116 said:

I just adore Erin. I think she is so underrated around these parts but she and Caroline are KILLER. Sigh.

Thank you for mentioning her name.  LOL I was having a hard time figuring out who this was *embarrassed sigh* 😞

[notvictoria]

On ‎7‎/‎19‎/‎2019 at 7:54 PM, EricaShadows said:

Kelly said (as close as I can come at the moment): "I'm not sure if today is helping or not with she is not at her trimmest state but she's got probably the best hair and the best legs in the room." 

Victoria's legs are actually really great, even in a room of dancers.  In high school, everyone thought her legs were awesome.

And also, Kitty is really awesome.  She has a good eye for spotting excellence.  She loved Olivia S. and Holly P. a lot and they were  really good dancers.

[M1977G]

Didn't Erin get at least two Barbies already? She even got one the year she was one of the first cuts. Pretty impressive. I really was not a fan her first audition, but she was a hot mess and busted her butt for the next year and came back a different performer. One thing I really like about Erin is that she went for DCC in spite of her fine arts dance peers and professors looking down on her desire to audition. I think that takes guts, especially to come back a second time after being one of the first cuts on national (international) TV and risking getting cut again. I could see her being a 2nd leader next year.  

[Loves2Dance]

2 minutes ago, M1977G said:

Didn't Erin get at least two Barbies already? She even got one the year she was one of the first cuts. Pretty impressive. I really was not a fan her first audition, but she was a hot mess and busted her butt for the next year and came back a different performer. One thing I really like about Erin is that she went for DCC in spite of her fine arts dance peers and professors looking down on her desire to audition. I think that takes guts, especially to come back a second time after being one of the first cuts on national (international) TV and risking getting cut again. I could see her being a 2nd leader next year.  

I think so. I have her pegged for point if she stayed for another 2 seasons. 

[pinkandsparkly13]

Oh VK could have very well been guaranteed a spot on the team. It's not that hard to believe really. If it happened before she even got into TCC. It's perfectly plausible that she was, but they didn't expect her to gain so much weight or be immature, and lie about things... So there ya go. Just because she was cut doesn't mean the rumors weren't true. 

[Pau84]

1 hour ago, M1977G said:

Changing the subject a bit, but, regarding DCC diversity: I was just looking at that Pompedia site posted above and I see that the DCC had more black cheerleaders in 1973--in what was still basically the Jim Crow South--than they do right now. And that still will be the case if Kat makes the team. I've always thought that they should do some serious recruiting with HBCU dance teams, of which there are plenty in the region. And it's so ridiculous that it's Texas and they always have so few Latinas and most of them are white-passing or close to it. With Lacey gone and Alexandra cut, are there any Latina contenders for this year's team? And with Gabby cut and Yuko retired, I think Chandi is the only candidate of Asian descent this year. Not that I'm saying anything new, but: not a good look for the DCC, if they really want to be America's Sweethearts representing America's Team. The DCC do targeted recruiting and have done so for years. I think it's time they revise their strategy. If you want to recruit the best of the best and have a truly diverse pool of candidates, you need to recruit heavily and widely. If they already are recruiting at HBCUs, they're not doing a good job and need to rework their tactics (I can't recall any black DCC graduating from an HBCU since I started watching in season 3). Kelli has mad respect for marching bands, and many college black marching bands are the shit--and I know she knows this--and it's with these bands that a lot of very talented, disciplined, well-educated women of color are trained and can be found. Send some black DCC alumni to recruit at these schools!! And surely there are Latinx dance troupes and such in Texas that they can reach out to to try to draw in more Latinas, etc. 

Speaking of recruiting, like others have mentioned before, I'd really like to hear/see more about the scouting and prelims free-passes the DCC do to recruit. I recall that Sydney Durso (one of my faves even if she's not a forum fave!) and Katie Marie (now Cherry, another of my faves) both were invited to audition and got to skip round one auditions. But I didn't learn that on the show and it would be an interesting thing to see from behind the scenes after so many years.

Lisa Mills and Kristin Dodd are 'Latina's', so is Alanna Tarango.

The U.S. Census Bureau defines the term Hispanic or Latino to refer to "a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race" and states that Hispanics or Latinos can be of any race, any ancestry, any ethnicity. Generically, this limits the definition of Hispanic or Latino to people from the Caribbean, Central and South America, or other Hispanic (Spanish) culture or origin, regardless of race. Latino can refer to males or females, while Latina refers to only females.

Because of the technical distinctions involved in defining "race" vs. "ethnicity," there is confusion among the general population about the designation of Hispanic identity. Currently, the United States Census Bureau defines six race categories:

• White or Caucasian
• Black or African American
• American Indian or Alaska Native
• Asian
• Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
• Some Other Race

According to census reports, of the above races the largest number of Hispanic or Latinos are of the White race, the second largest number come from the Native American/American Indian race who are the indigenous people of the Americas. The inhabitants of Easter Island are Pacific Islanders and since the island belongs to Chile they are theoretically Hispanic or Latinos. Because Hispanic roots are considered aligned with a European ancestry (Spain/Portugal), Hispanic/Latino ancestry is defined solely as an ethnic designation (similar to being Norse or Germanic). Therefore, a person of Hispanic descent is typically defined using both race and ethnicity as an identifier—i.e., Black-Hispanic, White-Hispanic, Asian-Hispanic, Amerindian-Hispanic or "other race" Hispanic.

[WinkyFace]

23 hours ago, ThreaLevelMidnight said:

Oh gosh please tell me the rumors about Amy being point are false. Her personality and her dancing just give off a repelling combo of annoying and arrogant.

My votes for point, in order: Gina, Bridget, Caroline, Heather. 

I would never in a million years get arrogant from Amy. Are you following her IG, arrogant couldn’t be further from what I see there. 

4 hours ago, Jazzmom said:

Cameo day!

Madeline is bringing it here. Her hair looks awesome! She looks beautiful and not just dorky cute. Love. 

Also, this no-spoilers thing is BS. Last war I went unspoiled because I thought it would be more fun and this board was amazing and I missed it (and yes, I went back and reread everything I missed. It took weeks!) and now I’m here and there is nothing!!! Grrr! 

[DCCme]

1 hour ago, notvictoria said:

Victoria's legs are actually really great, even in a room of dancers.  In high school, everyone thought her legs were awesome.

And also, Kitty is really awesome.  She has a good eye for spotting excellence.  She loved Olivia S. and Holly P. a lot and they were  really good dancers.

I need a snort laugh emoji!

[DCCFanInKy]

2 hours ago, M1977G said:

With Lacey gone and Alexandra cut,

What'd I miss??