S03.E15: True Colors

[SevenCostanza]

8 hours ago, Adeejay said:

Darcy may be insecure, needy and desperate, but she appears to be kind and seems to have a good heart. What Tom said to her was mean spirited. It was like Lucy pulling the ball away from Charlie Brown. She really didn’t deserve that. It’s not fun watching her get humiliated over and over.

I agree.  I don't know why but Darcy has grown on me this season.  She's ridiculous and way over the top but she's incredibly insecure and hurt inside and I feel bad for her.   I get the feeling Stacy was the favorite twin and Darcy was never good enough for Mommy and Daddy.  She's probably been trying her whole life to top her sister and she keeps failing because she's so desperate.   She could use some time away from cameras, social media and her sister.  Then reconnect with her beautiful daughters and get some counseling. 

Edited September 24, 2019 by SevenCostanza

[Mu Shu]

19 hours ago, Bryce Lynch said:

So, demure, conservative Christian Akinyi gets plastered next week.  I wonder if,during her dinner with Ben, she will pull off her mask and reveal that she is actually Darcy and Stacy's triplet.   

If she shows up in skin tight pleather pants and a long brassy blonde weave tripleting will be confirmed.

all I have to say about bikini is that her father preaches like Joshua Blayhi. Yes, mr. general buck naked himself. Also, the tribunal deciding if he could marry bikini reminded me of the eat the poopoo people. 

Little brat Avery thought she would be the center of attention in her big wedding dress. It was sort of refreshing to see a wedding not totally controlled by a tyrannical bridezilla, but the plastic chairs have to go.

Sorry momma Mahkul. Big Ang ain’t trying for another young’un. If, and it’s a big if she takes your son to Georgia, she’s going to put an iron lead on him. Probably won’t let him leave the house without permission, probably will make him serve Schaffer and Funions when all her rowdy friends come over tonight, and toss him a mess of neck bones and uncooked turnip greens to lean him back down while she chows down on the finest greasiest southern fare. She will have trailer park lookouts as big and mean as she is to ensure he doesn’t escape. Don’t do it Mahkul. 

[Rt66vintage]

20 hours ago, Lesia said:

Thank you for using "apropos" correctly.  It's not a cool way of saying "appropriate," as in, "this music is so apropos..."  God I hate that...

In all the forums I participate in on this site, the writers are incredibly literate with quick intelligent humor. 

16 hours ago, magemaud said:

You forgot the handshakes, first to the sheikh, then to very confused looking AVERY and then to and even more confused Teri. 

Maybe he's impotent? 

Oh, I thought you meant Tiny Tim, so never mind. Tim went on and on about how good was the kiss at the water fountain. He was so proud of himself for such a major accomplishment. When Jennifer later asked for a kiss at the apartment, he kept his eyes open and kept fiddling with his hangnails. He doesn't seem to have the least romantic interest in this girl. But I'm here for Jennifer's rendition of their first time in the sack. 

16 hours ago, Saje81 said:

Just putting this out there because it's been on my mind for a while: does anyone else think Akinyi might not be able to have children? I'm thinking back to one of her first scenes where she made a comment along the lines of hoping he doesn't expect her to have children. Then the scene with her friend before Ben arrived, and the friend also said something to the same effect, and Akinyi agreed.

I understand there are a lot of cultural differences between families in Nigeria where Michael and Big Ang are, and Kenya, but it seems to me that many traditional cultures place a lot of value on having children. If Akinyi cannot have children, that would certainly affect her "bride price", and her desirability as a wife...

While I don't doubt that Akinyi might want to go to America and might specifically like white guys, could her decision to pursue Ben be due to the fact that her prospects are very limited in Kenya?

I've wondered about Akini & her family's end game. She's almost an old maid at age 29, considering the culture as mentioned above. But how would everyone in the neighborhood know she was infertile? 

In every scene with Benjamin, he's sweaty nervous with his mouth either agape or trying on a forced smile. The family has diamonds in their eyes, but poor Benjamin is just a pauper.

[Mothra]

17 hours ago, Saje81 said:

Just putting this out there because it's been on my mind for a while: does anyone else think Akinyi might not be able to have children? I'm thinking back to one of her first scenes where she made a comment along the lines of hoping he doesn't expect her to have children. Then the scene with her friend before Ben arrived, and the friend also said something to the same effect, and Akinyi agreed.

Again, remember that I hallucinate.  I recall not that Kinky didn't want to have children herself, but that she hoped Benji wouldn't expect her to behave as a mother to his child.  I don't know what she thought her role in the family would be, but fortunately it's not my problem.

14 hours ago, WWalter said:

Neither does Omar. Where he lives, in the Russian controlled zone, there has't been and won't be a war zone, only secondary problems of resources (like food, water supply, electricity).

He did try to dissuade Avery from coming to Syria by warning her that there would be times without water or electricity, and she kind of brushed him off with "but not all the time..." and "I can deal with that."

I don't understand the Omar suspicion and dislike that has arisen here lately.  I think he for sure wants to marry an American and move to the US, but I don't think there's been anything shady about him, and I certainly don't think he's lying about being a dentist.

Likewise, I don't see how people can say that Darcey "seems" to be a kind person.  What in the world have we seen or heard from her to indicate that?  What I've seen is a woman who really doesn't care much about the damage her behavior on TV may be doing to her children, who has repeatedly been rude about plans her host has made for her visit (the bedroom is "too cold" and insisting on going to Albania of all places).  She may well be the nicest person in the world, but all I've seen her demonstrate is narcissism and insecurity; I don't think she's aware enough of the feelings of others (if they don't have bearing on how they perceive her) to show us anything about her personality.

And Stacey's boyfriend is ugly. Period.  I don't know why Darcey isn't taking lots of comfort from that.

[calpurnia99]

On 9/21/2019 at 11:15 PM, Kangatush said:

This is weird, but I figured out one of the reasons why Darcey sounds like an idiot, she never uses adverbs.  "She acted immature.  He felt bad..."  

Plus her and her sister UpTalk, which is every single sentence ends like it's a question. 

"I just want to be happy?" "Tom is the man that I love?" "I hope to get an engagment ring?" "I don't know why my sister doesnt want me to be happy?"

[BallisticNikki]

23 hours ago, TzuShih said:

Being born a twin is an incredibly wonderful stroke of luck!

Always wished I could have been one or had a pair. Lucky!

16 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Darcey is a needy, emotional wreck ...Girlfriend seems on the edge of a nervous breakdown

Yes, definitely, for tears to fall that easily. And it really is sad to me bc she seems like such a genuinely nice person. (And dick chasing aside) she seems like she's a good mom, too.

11 hours ago, SlutAssBitchAssHor said:

What??? You mean you don't swoon when he says " It's ok baby, don't worry for this. I promise,ok. It's no problem for me." Hmph. Guess it's just me then. 

I'm certain she was very relieved when he assured her, "I work lots of work! I work in the restaurant. I work in the coffee."

10 hours ago, RealReality said:

Also.  I think toms wig/plugs look better combed down.

Really!? You think it's a wig or plugs?🤣 What makes you think so? I thought for a minute it was a perm. But I don't think so anymore.

7 hours ago, Rt66vintage said:

I've wondered about Akini & her family's end game. She's almost an old maid at age 29, considering the culture as mentioned above. But how would everyone in the neighborhood know she was infertile? 

Surgery or illness?

I'm starting to rather dislike her dull, humorless, manipulative little self. Ugh. Their entire story is gross and disturbing to watch. (I normally do not pity the White-American-man-who-shops-for-the-poverty-stricken-ethnic-bride-in-a-developing-country. But I do here.) 

Edited September 24, 2019 by BallisticNikki

[Rt66vintage]

2 minutes ago, calpurnia99 said:

Plus her and her sister UpTalk, which is every single sentence ends like it's a question. 

"I just want to be happy?" "Tom is the man that I love?" "I hope to get an engagment ring?" "I don't know why my sister doesnt want me to be happy?"

Darcey does A LOT of shoulder shrugging too, it's nearly constant. She's a nervous insecure wreck. 

[calpurnia99]

On 9/23/2019 at 7:45 AM, Bryce Lynch said:

I don't blame him for wanting out of there, but I 100% blame him for the way he is going about it. 

It is bad enough when these green card scammers mess with people's emotions and finances.  But, Omar is going way beyond that and putting Avery's life in danger.

He told he though that he did not want her to come to Syria, She was insisting. He was telling her we don't have power most days, it's very bad and it will be dangerous and you will hate it.  I do not think he is encouraging it. They started a conversation but then it was cut off. The show might be editing out him saying these things.

[magemaud]

19 minutes ago, Rt66vintage said:

Oh, I thought you meant Tiny Tim, so never mind

Yes, I did mean that TIM might be impotent but it was merged with my response about Omar and Avery’s wedding. It wouldn’t surprise me if Tim has some type of ED or low testosterone issues. (Forgive my armchair diagnosis, I’ve been watching too many commercials!) That would explain his reluctance to be intimate with Jeniffer and also be a factor in why his relationships with his Colombian Ex and Veronica didn’t work out. 

[calpurnia99]

On 9/23/2019 at 9:58 AM, RealReality said:

This is actually a kindness to Darcy.  If he never had an intention of proposing and just wants to get out of this situation he has given Darcy a perfect way to claim that Tom loved her and blame Stacy for the fact that he didn't propose.  

Darcy can be cast in the role of romantic novel heroine who was kept from her true love by evil sister Stacy.  It's almost like Cinderella.  

Tom was said I could have proposed to you in Gran Canaria, gotten carried away by the beauty and romance of it, but instead I saw the real you here in Albania and I don't like it. To me, it makes more sense to propose when you see the real person, not the fake romance of a romantic vacation. If he had proposed to her there, it would have been to the phony vacation Darcy, not the real Darcy. You want to marry the real person not the fantasy vacation person(see the Bachelor and Bachelorette break ups). In this case, going to Albania was a blessing. You really see how someone really is when travelling and especially when things don't go well. I love Tom throwing up in the van! Whining about the van! Whining that he is too hot. Whining that he is hungry and the people are late an he is starving.  He is high maintenance- this is the real Tom!

Edited September 24, 2019 by calpurnia99

[BallisticNikki]

9 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Yes, I did mean that TIM might be impotent but it was merged with my response about Omar and Avery’s wedding. It wouldn’t surprise me if Tim has some type of ED or low testosterone issues. (Forgive my armchair diagnosis, I’ve been watching too many commercials!) That would explain his reluctance to be intimate with Jeniffer and also be a factor in why his relationships with his Colombian Ex and Veronica didn’t work out. 

But isn't there medication for that??

And if he's insecure about that, why go on a popular tv show show about dating and screwing and getting married? 🤔

And his "supposed" type is the hot-to-trot, scantily clad, overtly sexy Latina. Why is he doing this to himself?

Edited September 24, 2019 by BallisticNikki

[Rt66vintage]

2 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Yes, I did mean that TIM might be impotent but it was merged with my response about Omar and Avery’s wedding. It wouldn’t surprise me if Tim has some type of ED or low testosterone issues. That would explain his reluctance to be intimate with Jeniffer and also be a factor in why his relationships with his Colombian Ex and Veronica didn’t work out. 

Yes, I commented earlier that he may be less endowed than he'd prefer; perhaps women have been cruel to him in the past. ED is another likely cause of his hesitancy. There's always Viagra, as we armchair doctors know. 

[BallisticNikki]

1 minute ago, calpurnia99 said:

I love Tom throwing up in the van! This is the real Tom!

But do you think it was real throw up? Feels like a disproportionate #of ppl throw up on these shows. And it happened so fast. No vomit on his clothes.

[Mu Shu]

2 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Take a stroll through Google land "Muslim weddings". The brides are bedecked in absolutely gorgeous outfits. Either in white, western style dresses or more traditional dress, depending on the country, but colorful and as bedazzled as all get out. Take a peek:

https://www.outfittrends.com/hijab-wedding-dresses-latest-hijab-wedding-styles/

Oh goody, a mermaid dress. I blame that woman from say yes to the dress. 

I doubt that dress was actually worn. The black dress was nice. 

[Rt66vintage]

1 minute ago, BallisticNikki said:

But do you think it was real throw up? Feels like a disproportionate #of ppl throw up on these shows. And it happened so fast. No vomit on his clothes.

He's a tidy chap. Lol at Darcey getting on his lap afterwards, saying "I thought he needed comfort," and Stacey giving her sage advice "give him some space." Oh, and her 3-year fiance looks like a creepy drug addict. Yep, Stacey just as desperate as her twin, probably more cuz this guy screams looser.

[calpurnia99]

14 hours ago, SlutAssBitchAssHor said:

Grangela is out of her Georgia ass mind. 

That would be her Georgia Ass Face Mind

[magemaud]

3 hours ago, RealReality said:

She puts him in that tiny airless car, she is all over him like a cheap suit, he can't even breathe after he barfs, he is taken to some flea market with "couture" dresses bedazzled in doodads.  

No wonder Tom threw up on that car ride. We know that Darcey reeked of Angel and Stacey probably was in a cloud of more Angel or a competing stench. Florian and the driver probably felt sick, too. 

[Mu Shu]

1 minute ago, magemaud said:

No wonder Tom threw up on that car ride. We know that Darcey reeked of Angel and Stacey probably was in a cloud of more Angel or a competing stench. Florian and the driver probably felt sick, too. 

Stacey probably wears the classier but equally suffocating Coco Mademoiselle. God can you imagine being in a closed car with competing icepick to the brain perfumes? 

[calpurnia99]

I laughed so hard at the "couture" comment about the costume jewelry. Also Tom saying this is what we call a Flea Market in England. When he asked Darcy what she thought of it, she said "I thought it was beautiful" which is what she says about every place. She is so uninteresting, has not a clever thought in her brain. 

[Rt66vintage]

2 minutes ago, calpurnia99 said:

I laughed so hard at the "couture" comment about the costume jewelry. Also Tom saying this is what we call a Flea Market in England. When he asked Darcy what she thought of it, she said "I thought it was beautiful" which is what she says about every place. She is so uninteresting, has not a clever thought in her brain. 

Didn't she also say it was "romantic" ? Agree she's some sort of airhead. Poor dumb Darcey. 

[magemaud]

18 hours ago, magemaud said:

You forgot the handshakes, first to the sheikh, then to very confused looking AVERY and then to and even more confused Teri. 

Quoting myself here, but I just wanted to mention more details about the handshaking after Omar and Avery’s wedding. The sheikh was shown smoothing down the sides of his beard with both hands, then he WIPED his hands on his jacket, THEN he extended his hand to Omar for the “Sheikh Shake.” 

[Drogo]

19 minutes ago, BallisticNikki said:

21 minutes ago, calpurnia99 said:

I love Tom throwing up in the van! This is the real Tom!

But do you think it was real throw up?

"I'm glad we came to Albania, Tom, because now I feel I've met two versions of you.  The version who I could really see myself being with, and the version who throws up all over the place and lies about being ready to propose to me without even brushing his teeth in between." 

[humbleopinion]

Zied...want to know what hard work looks like?

Darcey's black bra straining to hold back the silicone boobage....that is hard work....

Her blush dress looks like a gathered curtain...barely long enough to cover her lady parts...

And then the next morning the twins are wearing the same hoodie with the silver cords having their talk....producer induced...

The Albanian Department of Tourism will be flooded with tens of tourists want to ride in old military UBER vans, take pictures and leave  love locks on that scenic bridge of a gully and rubble and of course buy "I went to Albania and got this sweatshirt instead of a Proposal "at the flea market...

Darcey's closed eyes in weepy sadness is made comical with her wonky eyelashes...the Albanian liquor must be giving her the shakes....

Her duck lips quivering ...that she thinks that Tom thinks that she's not good enough for him...that would normally be heartbreaking but I imagined she says it in a Donald Duck voice...quack, quack, quack...

Edited September 25, 2019 by humbleopinion

[Drogo]

Just now, magemaud said:

“Sheikh Shake.” 

Shake Shack is worried about trademark infringement.

[magemaud]

3 hours ago, RealReality said:

   Did Stacy really need to be on TV?  

Of course she did! 

[libgirl2]

25 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

Oh goody, a mermaid dress. I blame that woman from say yes to the dress. 

I doubt that dress was actually worn. The black dress was nice. 

Those are some lovely dresses. 

[Pepper Mostly]

54 minutes ago, Mothra said:

Again, remember that I hallucinate.  I recall not that Kinky didn't want to have children herself, but that she hoped Benji wouldn't expect her to behave as a mother to his child.  I don't know what she thought her role in the family would be, but fortunately it's not my problem.

He did try to dissuade Avery from coming to Syria by warning her that there would be times without water or electricity, and she kind of brushed him off with "but not all the time..." and "I can deal with that."

I don't understand the Omar suspicion and dislike that has arisen here lately.  I think he for sure wants to marry an American and move to the US, but I don't think there's been anything shady about him, and I certainly don't think he's lying about being a dentist.

Likewise, I don't see how people can say that Darcey "seems" to be a kind person.  What in the world have we seen or heard from her to indicate that?  What I've seen is a woman who really doesn't care much about the damage her behavior on TV may be doing to her children, who has repeatedly been rude about plans her host has made for her visit (the bedroom is "too cold" and insisting on going to Albania of all places).  She may well be the nicest person in the world, but all I've seen her demonstrate is narcissism and insecurity; I don't think she's aware enough of the feelings of others (if they don't have bearing on how they perceive her) to show us anything about her personality.

And Stacey's boyfriend is ugly. Period.  I don't know why Darcey isn't taking lots of comfort from that.

I wish I could like this post one thousand times.

24 minutes ago, magemaud said:

No wonder Tom threw up on that car ride. We know that Darcey reeked of Angel and Stacey probably was in a cloud of more Angel or a competing stench. Florian and the driver probably felt sick, too. 

You just know that Florian is the kind of guy who thinks its not necessary to shower absolutely every day. Waves of nausea are washing over me now, as I try to imagine the miasmas that were present in that hell van. Angel, pleather, stale cigarette smoke, unwashed Albanians, and the lingering aroma of vomit. Gag.

17 minutes ago, calpurnia99 said:

I laughed so hard at the "couture" comment about the costume jewelry. Also Tom saying this is what we call a Flea Market in England. When he asked Darcy what she thought of it, she said "I thought it was beautiful" which is what she says about every place. She is so uninteresting, has not a clever thought in her brain. 

She reminds me of the woman in "Annie Hall", the one Alvy goes up to and says "You two seem like a happy couple. What's your secret?". And she says "I'm kind of shallow, and empty, with no ideas and nothing interesting to say".

Darcy should find a guy like Zied. Just think of the long, rambling, substanceless conversations they'd have:

Darcy: Its so romantic here, isn't it baby?

Zied: so so beautifool, baby. So beautifool, like you, baby

Darcy: (giggles like a tween) Oh baby, you are so handsome and we are engaged! What a wonderful romantic time we are having!

Zied: I love so much my beautifoool baby, she is so sexxxxy and beautifoool, I am so much loving.

And so on.

8 minutes ago, humbleopinion said:

The Albanian Department of Tourism will be flooded with tens of tourists want to ride in old military UBER vans, take pictures and leave  love locks on that scenic bridge of a gully and rubble and of course buy "I went to Albania and got this sweatshirt instead of a Proposal "at the flea market...

Darcey's closed eyes in weepy sadness is made comical with her wonky eyelashes...the Albanian liquor must be giving her the shakes....

Her duck lips quivering ...that she thinks that Tom thinks that she's not good enough for him...that would normally be heartbreaking but I imagined she says it in a Donald Duck voice...quack, quack, quack...

I love your whole post but the bolded made me laugh very very loudly. Brava!

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, BallisticNikki said:

Always wished I could have been one or had a pair. Lucky!

Really!? You think it's a wig or plugs?🤣 What makes you think so? I thought for a minute it was a perm. But I don't think so anymore.

The difference in color is the dead giveaway for me.  The top somehow looks different to me too.  However, I would have let that fly if the difference it color wasnt so easy to spot with the naked eye.  

But I think it blends much much better when combed down.

Rebecca SHOULD be asking where all zieds money is going.  If it's going towards helping his parents will he be expected to continue that help once he moves to the US?

No one asks this question and shit ends up going sideways (see Chantal/Pedro and Melanie/devar)

[libgirl2]

51 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

You just know that Florian is the kind of guy who thinks its not necessary to shower absolutely every day. Waves of nausea are washing over me now, as I try to imagine the miasmas that were present in that hell van. Angel, pleather, stale cigarette smoke, unwashed Albanians, and the lingering aroma of vomit. Gag.

Many years ago, a good friend of mine and I were out at a club. There were these two Eastern European guys who "hit on us". I wasn't interested in the one guy but my friend was in the other. They ended up dating and eventually lived together. Early in their relationship, I was in a dating funk and asked her if her bf's friend would be interested in going out. It was set up. Now her bf was a really nice well dressed and great smelling man and a real sweetheart too. So my date arrives. Ugh. I don't know if he ever bathed! I didn't get too close to him at the club and maybe I should have. It was one of the longest nights of my life. 

So I guess these guys can either be really clean or really not. Not meaning to go off topic, but your post brought back "memories". I guess its good we don't have smell-o-vision between the BO, the barf and the Angel. 

[Mr. Miner]

2 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

Probably won’t let him leave the house without permission, probably will make him serve Schaffer and Funions when all her rowdy friends come over tonight, and toss him a mess of neck bones and uncooked turnip greens to lean him back down while she chows down on the finest greasiest southern fare. She will have trailer park lookouts as big and mean as she is to ensure he doesn’t escape. Don’t do it Mahkul. 

The hell van from Albania is probably nausea inducing. But it probably smells like a rose garden compared to Grangela's trailer.

[humbleopinion]

24 minutes ago, Mr. Minor said:

The hell van from Albania is probably nausea inducing. But it probably smells like a rose garden compared to Grangela  's trailer.

I fixed it for you....

[Twopper]

6 hours ago, RealReality said:

The difference in color is the dead giveaway for me.  The top somehow looks different to me too.  However, I would have let that fly if the difference it color wasnt so easy to spot with the naked eye.  

That's why I thought the first time I saw him that he had some kind of small curly haired mammal asleep on his head.

Am I the only one that was reminded of the Handmaid's Tale when they put the hooded cloak on Avery?  Ok, so it is the wrong color, but that was my first thought.    I did like her wedding dress, but I have no idea if it was appropriate or not.

The mother is lucky she didn't sign anything in a language she can't read without an interpreter being present.  I can't believe she knows so little about being in a mosque considering the wedding was the reason for the trip.   Maybe she is just playing up her snarky self for the camera.   I did like that she asked Omar what a dowry was as it is certainly the reverse of what I think of when I hear the word.

Rebecca's unblended blush looks like the late 70's.  And Angela's bra straps looked stupid peaking out above her blouse.   I think she was going for the look of a cami or other top with narrow straps that I see so often on young thin things who go bra-less.

I think Jenny needs to hop a jet plane from India and come to Mexico to spend time commiserating with Caesar over the blows they both have been dealt.

Edited September 24, 2019 by Twopper

[Mothra]

2 hours ago, calpurnia99 said:

Plus her and her sister UpTalk, which is every single sentence ends like it's a question. 

(talking about Darcy)

Maddening, and uptalk has to be detrimental to all women who are trying to climb the corporate ladder.  Who can be taken seriously when every sentence seems to reveal insecurity about the speaker's grasp of the subject?

A wonderful movie ("In a World..." written by and starring Lake Bell, of Children's Hospital fame) touches on this topic.

Incredibly, one of the most flagrant uptalkers in the public eye is Terry Gross.

[sasha206]

On 9/20/2019 at 2:45 PM, Cammi said:

Thank you! 40 is around the corner for me and I already own my home. I wouldn't even consider a man that still lived at home. Maybe if an invalid parent lived with them, but not living at home with zero work history, no savings, no education etc. I don't get what these middle aged women see in these men that bring nothing to the table? Not trying to be over the top materialistic, but I can't eat love. Love doesn't pay my utilities.

Stacy's catfish Florian? Not that cute. Sorry, he does not look like his online pictures. He is scrawny and he has a bad smile and bad skin for a model. And dude has a chain wallet? Wtf? How OLD is he? I can't imagine being over the age of 25 and walking around with a guy with a wallet chain. Yes I'm judging. It seems to me that NONE of the foreign fiancé's have any sort of income or stable work history. Omar just graduated right? Not working right? What do the foreign fiancé's do besides "model"? And you know Stacy has been engaged so long because she can not afford the Visa. I wouldn't even consider paying for it! Let the guy pay for it! I thought it was rich when Stacy told Darcy to let her "enjoy her moment". Bitch, you done been engaged three years! That ain't no "moment", your engagement is getting near kindergarten age. 

I guess these people just want someone to boss around? That's why they pick these seemingly poor, uneducated foreigners? Tom is the only cast member I remotely like- colored me surprised. He was a catfish yes, but he is much more appealing to me than Florian. Is Florian on drugs or.....? Dude looks GAUNT, and bags under his eyes. Not attractive. And again, hardly any muscle tone. If dude was sporting the muscles like in his online photos, we'd see him filling out his clothes. He's no Jesse, and Jesse isn't even all that. 

I dunno, I just can not fathom meeting a man at my age who: lives at home, no education, no career OR job, and who can't even pay for a simple date. You KNOW these Americans are funding their overseas trips themselves. I guess I must be materialistic. And Zied is not attractive. He seems nice enough though, but at his age, he should not be so out of shape. Zero muscle tone. If I flew halfway around the world and my guy met me at the airport saying we need to rent a car, I'd hold out my hand for his credit card. Or I'd be on the next flight back to the states. Have no idea why a woman Rebecca's age doesn't allow herself to heal after divorce. So damaged (as are we all), and yet no desire to heal/learn from her past relationships. Another middle aged Disney princess syndrome. 

I wonder if Z was American, whether Rebecca would find all of his qualities/non-qualities attractive.  I'm thinking she finds dating (and marrying Muslim) men exciting b/c of a perceived danger to it.  She loves trying to rebel against the culture.  And she loves having her man fight over her in a bar b/c she "dressed too sexy."  I find it hard to believe she'd be in love with that paunchy guy if it weren't for her finding him so exotic.  

[libgirl2]

2 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

She reminds me of the woman in "Annie Hall", the one Alvy goes up to and says "You two seem like a happy couple. What's your secret?". And she says "I'm kind of shallow, and empty, with no ideas and nothing interesting to say".

Darcy should find a guy like Zied. Just think of the long, rambling, subsanceless conversations they'd have:

Darcy: Its so romantic here, isn't it baby?

Zied: so so beautifool, baby. So beautifool, like you, baby

Darcy: (giggles like a tween) Oh baby, you are so handsome and we are engaged! What a wonderful romantic time we are having!

Zied: I love so much my beautifoool baby, she is so sexxxxy and beautifoool, I am so much loving.

Okay, can we have them be the couple next season? I think they would hit it off! Does Darcey have tats? 

Edited September 24, 2019 by libgirl2

[Lily247]

Would a TLC camera crew go to Syria ? Idk how it works, but would they hire Syrians to film Avery in Syria (if she goes). 

[Pepper Mostly]

Avery is no more going to Syria than I am going to be Miss Universe. Take that to the bank.

[Honey]

21 hours ago, Saje81 said:

Just putting this out there because it's been on my mind for a while: does anyone else think Akinyi might not be able to have children? I'm thinking back to one of her first scenes where she made a comment along the lines of hoping he doesn't expect her to have children. Then the scene with her friend before Ben arrived, and the friend also said something to the same effect, and Akinyi agreed.

I understand there are a lot of cultural differences between families in Nigeria where Michael and Big Ang are, and Kenya, but it seems to me that many traditional cultures place a lot of value on having children. If Akinyi cannot have children, that would certainly affect her "bride price", and her desirability as a wife in her traditional society. I assume any Kenyan husband she might find would likely expect children, and the fact that she can't might be considered necessary disclosure prior to marriage in her culture.

While I don't doubt that Akinyi might want to go to America and might specifically like white guys, could her decision to pursue Ben be due to the fact that her prospects are very limited in Kenya? And if her family feels no cultural obligation to share this information with Ben, they might be married before he finds out as well.

What I heard her say is that she hopes she isn't expected to become a Mother to Ben's Son.  I've watched all the episodes several times, and at no time did she say anything about not being able to have children.

[SemiCharmedLife]

On 9/23/2019 at 10:42 AM, magemaud said:

Avery sat on the sidelines wearing a Yoda Cloak next to Teri wearing a flowered bedsheet. Omar sat across the room and  held hands with the officiant (imam? sheikh?) who read him a few phrases in Arabic and Omar repeated his responses. It was explained that he was the stand in for Avery because she couldn't speak Arabic. Teri was asked for the agreed upon dowry price, otherwise she and Avery had no "lines" and were virtually spectators. No rings were exchanged but I've noticed Omar wearing one even before the ceremony. Teri whined about not being able to sign the paperwork as a witness to the the wedding but it required a male signature or TWO females, which really pissed her off and she grumbled about it out loud to Avery as they sat there. 

I've been rooting for Omar and Avery, but I was very sad for Avery for her wedding ceremony, especially when the sheik filled in for her.  I know I am ignorant of the traditions of the Muslim ceremony or Lebanese laws, but I felt bad that she could not hold Omar's hand and repeat the words herself.  I hope they will be able to have a future in a safe country and have another ceremony in which she can wear her beautiful gown and invite both sets of family members.

[brilliantbreakfast]

On 9/22/2019 at 3:50 PM, iwasish said:

Her quest for the prize of an engagment and eventual wedding ring is setting back women’s progress by 50 years.

I’m shocked she doesn’t pressure her daughters more to “get a man”, but then maybe she doesn’t want the competition. 

It's pathetic that a woman of 44 is still all ga-ga over engagement rings and weddings.  I was like this when I was young, but I was 25 and had never been married, and was the last person among my friends who were interested in marriage to meet someone.  I was continually going to weddings and ducking out to the bathroom when the bouquet was thrown so I didn't seem pathetic.  But Darcey revels in it.

I don't know what the women on this show read that they have the emotional maturity of 18-year-olds where love and marriage are concerned.

[SemiCharmedLife]

On 9/23/2019 at 12:01 PM, Bryce Lynch said:

Also, Avery's head has a very unfortunate shape, in the hijab.  Maybe it is her hair in a bun in the back, but her head appears to protrude back about a foot, making her look like some sort of Star Trek alien.

Nancy Drew - LOL!  

I also love it every time she says "technically married".  That is like being "technically pregnant".  You either are or you aren't.  I could buy "not officially divorced yet", but "technically married" sounds like she is in denial.

I also agree that her lies and omissions and extreme photo filtering are worse than Zied possibly not ever having had a job.   I like it when the 2 "soulmates" are conning each other.  It allows us to mock them both, while not feeling bad for anyone.  

Judging from her regular hijab, I believe Avery has long hair, tied up in a bun of sorts.

Am I the only one who thinks Rebecca's huge secret of being "technically married" is a nonissue?  She's already filed the papers (yes, very late), and I agree with you- she's not officially divorced yet, but it's just a matter of time.  If it were me, I wouldn't even bother making a big deal of this information.  I would just say that we can file for the K-1 visa when the proper time has passed and leave it at that.  Less drama.

[Normades]

9 minutes ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

Judging from her regular hijab, I believe Avery has long hair, tied up in a bun of sorts.

Am I the only one who thinks Rebecca's huge secret of being "technically married" is a nonissue?  She's already filed the papers (yes, very late), and I agree with you- she's not officially divorced yet, but it's just a matter of time.  If it were me, I wouldn't even bother making a big deal of this information.  I would just say that we can file for the K-1 visa when the proper time has passed and leave it at that.  Less drama.

I'm really curious about this issue.  Is Rebecca's ex still in the US?  Is she still required to provide support for him?  If so, how can she be allowed to sponsor another foreign spouse.  Do they operate on a three strikes your out policy or can you just keep marrying foreign men and bringing them to the US until you find what you want? 

[Mothra]

4 hours ago, Rt66vintage said:

Darcey does A LOT of shoulder shrugging too, it's nearly constant. She's a nervous insecure wreck. 

Yes!  And both she and her sister do this very tense head nodding; I can't tell if it's voluntary or some kind of tremor.  It seems like it's to emphasize what's been said, but sometimes just seems to happen.

[Drogo]

On 9/17/2019 at 5:43 PM, Zevious Zoquis said:

The Caesar story is definitely pathetic.  Not sure what about it seemed particularly staged though.  He seems to be doing what I would mostly expect under the circumstances.  

I'm watching the new show On Becoming A God In Central Florida and the story is based in a cultlike Amway-style multilevel marketing scheme that preys on poor but hardworking people... I sure hope none of those nuts find Caesar or he'll be a new Independent Business Owner.  He's just a sucker.  I start to feel bad for him.  

BUT then I think about all the lovely women his age who might have imperfect skin or a few extra pounds and probably show interest in him when they come into the salon, but he thinks he's too good for them and deserves instead a statuesque Eastern-European blonde 15 years his junior that looks like she's about to tip over and speaks in emoji... 

 

[Mothra]

15 minutes ago, brilliantbreakfast said:

I don't know what the women on this show read that they have the emotional maturity of 18-year-olds where love and marriage are concerned.

Read?!  Surely you jest.

[BallisticNikki]

54 minutes ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

Judging from her regular hijab, I believe Avery has long hair, tied up in a bun of sorts.

Am I the only one who thinks Rebecca's huge secret of being "technically married" is a nonissue?  She's already filed the papers (yes, very late), and I agree with you- she's not officially divorced yet, but it's just a matter of time.  If it were me, I wouldn't even bother making a big deal of this information.  I would just say that we can file for the K-1 visa when the proper time has passed and leave it at that.  Less drama.

My divorce took years! So that could happen. And her previous K1 visa marriage could flag her as some kind of shill/accomplice and cause the application to be denied. And as someone upthread said, her ex could bankrupt her, either thru incurring debts or during the divorce process. 

I mean, there was no real reason for her to mention the lesbian relationship, either....maybe she's trying to be transparent with him? Which is good. But it would have been better if she had told him up front. Some ppl are really against doing that. (Even men.)

Edited September 24, 2019 by BallisticNikki

[Adeejay]

6 hours ago, RealReality said:

However, i think he realized that he may have gone too far when Teri took off.  LOL, Avery's money isn't paying for the immigration attorney.

I was surprised when Omar took off after Teri like a bat out of hell.  He may enjoy taunting her, but he is smart enough to know that she is the one he needs to get to America. 

[SemiCharmedLife]

I'm flabbergasted that Michael said that having a baby is more important to him than coming to America.  If he wanted to have children, why in the world would he have any interest in a 52 year old woman?  It shouldn't even be a thought in his head, let alone brought up with his mother.

[RealReality]

2 hours ago, Lily247 said:

Would a TLC camera crew go to Syria ? Idk how it works, but would they hire Syrians to film Avery in Syria (if she goes). 

I hope not.  It's not worth it, this is just a snark show not the PBS newshour

[BallisticNikki]

5 minutes ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

I'm flabbergasted that Michael said that having a baby is more important to him than coming to America.  If he wanted to have children, why in the world would he have any interest in a 52 year old woman?  It shouldn't even be a thought in his head, let alone brought up with his mother.

Bc the two are not mutually exclusive. He figures he can do both (move to the US w/ a 52 y/o woman and have children). He's setting the stage now for cheating and outside babies. She's been warned. And who knows? He may already have kids.

Edited September 24, 2019 by BallisticNikki