S03.E01: Crazy In Love

[milner]

I think it is Tim with the Ferrari that had tiny shoulders and looks made from spare parts

[JennyMominFL]

7 hours ago, suzeecat said:

Avery's story line is shades of Nicole/Azan.  Nicole's mother has half-heartedly tried to knock some sense into her but yet continues to enable her delusions. 

This is a great new-ish (Darcy/Stacy) crop of dimwits, but it's going to be hard to watch the Cesar story line.  Poor dude works REALLY HARD to export his paycheck for nothing in return. 

This show has a similar effect on me that Hoarders does - reinforces my conviction that I WILL NEVER GET LIKE THAT.

Hoarders always makes me get up and clean my house. This show makes me hug my husband

[libgirl2]

27 minutes ago, Spike said:

She is focused on his green eyes. Let’s hope they aren’t contacts lol.  But other than the eyes I find him average to homely.  So unlike Laura on Other Way she is not really looking for hotter just younger and fitter.  

He kinda looks like the FTM that was on Survivor a few seasons back.  He actually looked better when he was the nerdy D&D player.

IN the previews he looks sloppy too. 

[Horrified]

3 hours ago, 100Proof said:

Well, we had the baby boomer retirement explosion, coming up is all the folks who tat'd up their bods while young and now we're heading for a granny grossness explosion

Sorry, not 90 day related, but tattoo related: if you or someone you love are thinking about getting large areas tattooed, please consider this:  its pretty difficult for medical personnel to find veins in overly inked arms, so pray you never need emergency medical help.  Its also harder for them to see bruising or a blown vein.

In addition, skin infections (not necessarily from the tattoos, but from a cut say) like cellulitis are next to impossible to see properly, putting your health at serious risk.  Skin cancer is also more difficult to detect.

As they say in the tattoo world:  no regerts.

[PinkFlamingo]

There is a special place in hell for scammers, whether the victim deserves it by blindly ignoring all the red flags or not.  I do not enjoy watching anyone getting scammed, no matter how annoying the victim is (looking at Nicole, Corey, etc). Watching this long con of Caesar take place is akin to watching a cat play with a mouse before killing it. And the way TLC is going to draw it out will be painful. This story would make a better episode of Catfish. One hour max, there is a reveal and it’s over. 

TLC really needs to start to draw the line when they start to dabble in showing financial crimes or domestic violence. That kind of stuff does not make for enjoyable viewing. I feel bad for the guy who fills half of his suitcase with a three month supply of edible undergarments. And that’s not cool. Let’s go back to snark-worthy subjects ok TLC?

[iwasish]

2 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Exactly. He's been scrimping and saving and doing without so he could send "Maria" money. He doesn't have a car, he probably doesn't have cable, he cooks for himself, gets his clothes at thrift shops. If he lives alone his expenses are probably minimal. And if he has a retirement account I'll eat my hat. I doubt that the nail salon offers that as a benefit, and I can't see Caesar setting one up on his own. He's just spending every single cent he can get his hands on to send to "Maria" in Ukraine. What an idiot.

And he’s borrowed from his boss before. 

I wonder how many pair of chocolate panties he’s had to eat  due to the canceled trips. 

[ava111]

2 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Their dad probably pays for their house. He paid for the terrible sizzle reel for their failed reality TV show, The Twin Life.

While no longer pursuing his dream of being a middle-aged white rapper, Darcey's ex doesn't seem to be rolling in dough. He's a real estate agent and runs a small bed and breakfast. Stacey's ex is a retired soccer player who runs a youth soccer academy and has been the assistant coach or manager for a number of US soccer teams.

Holy cow! They are absolutely unrecognizable!!!! Darcey in her talking heads actually reminds me of actress Geena Davis when she was younger. Even their voices were less annoying and affected.

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

Maybe Darcy should have done the karaoke app. IDK, but this Tom sounds so far like a prick.  I want to feel bad for Caesar, but dang if 100 people tell you your being scammed and you refuse to believe it, then shame on you. Becky from the block, dang that guy reminds me of Steven Assange from 600 lb life at about 200 lbs.  I wonder if Jenn will want to move to Me-ami and work on her curh-reer like Pao, although I do think she is a ton prettier than Pao. Seems like she is espicy latina whose got a jelly of doughboys non baby mama. 

Edited August 7, 2019 by Mahamid Frauded Me

[Gigglepuff]

9 hours ago, Spike said:

Is it legal for someone who is not law enforcement to place a tracking device on someone else’s car?  Or does she just enjoy the thrill and not care about the consequences?

I'm not sure, but I find it creepy. What if the PI's client is a total stalker? 

[bichonblitz]

2 hours ago, LaLaLaLa said:

Uh...yeah. She even stated that she needs to use "filters" to make herself look pretty. Maybe she looks "pretty cute" with the filters making her look 19 again with 50 lbs less to carry around. She can't live in filter world forever. (I had never heard of filters until she mentioned using them.)

She could do without wearing that half ponytail on top of her head. I don't think anyone past the age of 22 can pull off that hairstyle. 

[Spike]

4 minutes ago, Gigglepuff said:

I'm not sure, but I find it creepy. What if the PI's client is a total stalker? 

Found this.  I guess if the car is jointly owned and one of the owners authorizes it may be okay.

Can you install a GPS tracking device in your spouse’s car? 

The answer depends on the laws of your state. The ownership of the car is one of the most common factors courts will consider in determining whether the use of a tracking device is legal. In most states, if you own the car jointly with your spouse or the car is your sole property, it’s probably legal to place a tracking device in the car. However, if you install a GPS tracking system in a car that isn’t yours, you may expose yourself to a lawsuit for invasion of privacy. In addition, any evidence you gather from the device will probably be inadmissible in court.

[Pepper Mostly]

2 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

She could do without wearing that half ponytail on top of her head. I don't think anyone past the age of 22 can pull off that hairstyle. 

No one past elementary school should wear that little topknot.

I can't quite figure out what's emanating from my TV like a stench during her segments--her desperation or Zied's sleaze. 

[Mercolleen]

24 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

I can't quite figure out what's emanating from my TV like a stench during her segments--her desperation or Zied's sleaze. 

I think it's Zied's hair.

[Gigglepuff]

The guy with the g/f from Columbia reminds me of those creepy little dolls come to life. 

[chickenella]

8 hours ago, BravoAddict72 said:

Did anyone catch the picture of Caesar with a child on his fridge? Does he have children? Or an ex? 

All I caught was that the dude's fridge was almost empty! He was clipping coupons for eggs. He probably lives off eggs and ramen.

[Ilsa25]

20 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

For some reason she seems to crave the tight swaddle of authoritarian structure

Okay, the entire post was brilliant, but this quote from TOASTER STRUDEL is one of the funniest things I've read in quite a while.  I just kept reading it, over and over, cracking up every single time!  

[HaaCHOO]

3 hours ago, LaLaLaLa said:

Maybe she looks "pretty cute" with the filters making her look 19 again with 50 lbs less to carry around.

She appears to have a pretty face and carrying some extra pounds. I'm the one who (still) thinks she's "pretty cute." My TV must have fabulous filters too.  

[100Proof]

6 hours ago, magemaud said:

Seeing all the photos and Zied mementos, I wonder if she gets tats to memorialize her relationships and her three ex husbands are featured on them. 

I'm thinking a kneecap would be a perfect spot to tat a face onto.  ;-D

Edited August 6, 2019 by 100Proof

[Frozendiva]

1 hour ago, Pepper Mostly said:

No one past elementary school should wear that little topknot.

I can't quite figure out what's emanating from my TV like a stench during her segments--her desperation or Zied's sleaze. 

New show gimmick: Smellovision.

[100Proof]

6 hours ago, iwasish said:

I wonder how many pair of chocolate panties he’s had to eat  due to the canceled trips. 

Chocolate panties, eh?   Must be difficult to visually detect skidmarks . Delish! 

Is lack of toilet paper in russia still a thing?

Edited August 6, 2019 by 100Proof

[Gigglepuff]

21 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

I am so happy I got to relive "You never loved me get out of my life!"

LIAR!

[RealReality]

4 hours ago, Spike said:

She is focused on his green eyes. Let’s hope they aren’t contacts lol.  But other than the eyes I find him average to homely.  So unlike Laura on Other Way she is not really looking for hotter just younger and fitter.  

Based on what I saw, id say straight up homely.  He is absolutely not worth the trouble or effort.  I wouldnt be putting that face on my coffee mug.

40 minutes ago, chickenella said:

All I caught was that the dude's fridge was almost empty! He was clipping coupons for eggs. He probably lives off eggs and ramen.

I didn't even know they had coupons for eggs.   I feel like they have normal generic eggs and one brand of fancy eggs in my stores.  There is really no need for coupons.  If you want fancy eggs you're only going to get one brand.

[HaaCHOO]

1 hour ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

Maybe Darcy should have done the karaoke app. IDK, but this Tom sounds so far like a prick.

To paraphrase Dave Ramsey, "better than she deserves."

[Kiss my mutt]

Rebecca is going to have to bring her ring light to Tunisia 

[Gigglepuff]

So let me get this right. Two middle aged people, Darcey and what's his name, are posting engagement ring photos on Instagram? How very thirsty and fame-whorey. Of course I'm not surprised. What I am surprised at is that someone as vapid and vane as Darcy hasn't fixed those crows feet of hers. Everything else about her is plastic, filled and puffed out, so why wear those dead caterpillars on her eyes which only draw attention to her crows feet. She's slippin'!! 

[Dobian]

10 hours ago, IllLitShips said:

The apple falling far from the tree? Would that be a theory from Tesla? Does mother Chantel know about this one? 

It took Mother Chantel a couple of minutes to spit out the expression, I guess it was too deep to wrap her brain around.

[RealReality]

3 hours ago, JennyMominFL said:

Hoarders always makes me get up and clean my house. This show makes me hug my husband

Me too, there is normally some chore that I'm like...meh I could do that later....but then I get paranoia and think that the hoarder probably said the same thing at first like...."yeah Ill throw out that pizza box eventually" and then it turned into "I'll stop pooping in bags eventually"

And I get so scared of the slippery slope that I just go do the chore.

[magemaud]

1 hour ago, 100Proof said:

I'm thinking a kneecap would be a perfect spot to tat a face onto.  ;-D

That's brilliant! And the mouth could open and close when you bend your knee kind of like a sock puppet. 

[eyelash]

2 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

She could do without wearing that half ponytail on top of her head. I don't think anyone past the age of 22 can pull off that hairstyle. 

My Mom walked through the living room while I was watching, spotted her, and said "Look, it's busted Pebbles!"

[Maybeitsme]

2 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

She could do without wearing that half ponytail on top of her head. I don't think anyone past the age of 22 can pull off that hairstyle. 

This! I think she is attractive and really just has a problem with looking older so she over compensates 

[bichonblitz]

8 hours ago, vintagesac said:

Rebecca is a damn fool for cat fishing with those filters. It didn’t just smooth her skin, it removed 40 lbs and 20 years! She’s adorable, why set him up like that?

Because Mr. Tunisia is not interested in 40 extra lbs and 20 yrs. She's probably hoping he will fall in love with the "filtered" her, then it won't matter when he see's the real her because he will be so in love. Guess again, sweetie.

Edited August 6, 2019 by bichonblitz

[seacliffsal]

Oh my, where to begin.  Well, I'm going to start with Darcy.  She really thinks we have short-term memories and are buying what she is selling about her relationship with Jesse.  I laughed out loud though when they showed the picture of Darcy with the ring from Tom on her ring finger, then showed Jesse's comment that it was a fake engagement picture which Darcy mocked him about.  But, Darcy, Jesse wasn't wrong.  She did fake an engagement and now wears the ring on her other hand.  Even the way Darcy took the photo is how women take a photo of their new engagement rings.  So, Darcy, Jesse accurately called you out for what you were doing.  And, to make matters worse, Darcy now has me defending Jesse.  She needs to get off of t.v. and I agreed with Tom in the preview, Darcy is very dramatic (AND exhausting).

Rebecca-I liked her at first until she shared that she had not done a background check on Zeid even though she just LOVES being a PI.  Oh, and if she was "perfectly happy being single" (her words, and we found out she wasn't even single...), she wouldn't be looking to make the exact same mistake as she made with husband #3.  Oh, but Zeid is from Tunisia and her (not) ex is from Morocco, so not the same thing at all.  LOVED her children.

Caesar-I do feel sorry for him.  However, people have tried to get him to see the truth about Maria, so he is fully responsible for his actions.  I agree with other posters in that I think the producer really was trying to help him which we have not seen before.  I know it's hard to be single (life-long single here) and there are times when loneliness can really set in.  But, it's hard to understand why so many lonely people seek out "models" and "influencers" instead of more localized people who might share community values, etc.  

Forgive me for my potential ignorance, but I thought it took time to convert to Islam.  I thought there were classes/lessons, etc.  So, a month seems very short to me (or maybe I totally misunderstood how long Avila has been a Muslim).  I do think there's an element of attention seeking to it.  Hopefully her parents are not buying her ticket and paying for her wedding.  If this is something she really wants, she (and I'll put Nicole in here as well) needs to figure out how to pay for it.  

Tim is interesting to me.  I can't figure out if all of his comments are serious or if he is being sarcastic.  Nevertheless, he is letting his ex have far too much influence on his life.  In a way, I'm a bit concerned that he's another Ricky who talked about his ex-wife only to have her turn out to be his wife and business partner who was in on the scam to fake a relationship to help their "production company" get noticed.  

Well, here we are, once again, on this crazy roller coaster of love...or lust...

[Jeanne222]

10 hours ago, charmed1 said:

I have as much sympathy for Caesar as I did for Ricky which comes to the grand total of zero. Anybody who is buying chocolate panties in bulk in anticipation for the arrival of a stranger, is not a sympathetic figure. He may be dim witted, but he is a dim witted sleaze bag. Much like Nicole, Danielle, Tarik, Ricky, Grangela...ok pretty much everyone on this show.

Was just sitting here thinking the same thing!  I think his $800 bucks a month pays for his dreams and maybe that's ok with him and it's worth it to him to live in that fantasy world!

Kind of like a porn addiction!  Heaven only knows what pictures she sends him off camera!!!

[jumper sage]

The girl going to Syria - WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HER?  This is how Isis and other groups get breeders/sex slaves to come over there.

[iwasish]

2 hours ago, Dobian said:

It took Mother Chantel a couple of minutes to spit out the expression, I guess it was too deep to wrap her brain around.

I wonder if she used to help Chantel with her homework? 

3 hours ago, chickenella said:

All I caught was that the dude's fridge was almost empty! He was clipping coupons for eggs. He probably lives off eggs and ramen.

He does have a stash of chocolate panties for dessert though. 

[iwasish]

51 minutes ago, jumper sage said:

The girl going to Syria - WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HER?  This is how Isis and other groups get breeders/sex slaves to come over there.

She’s starting to remind me of one of those girls who were part of the Hollywood “Bling Ring” and robbed celebrity homes. They had a very short lived reality show. 

Back to the chocolate panties... was he going to hand them to her or, like the maids in fancy hotels do with  Andes mints, leave them on the nightstand?

Edited August 6, 2019 by iwasish

[magemaud]

I swore I wouldn’t watch this season but my husband, bless his heart, tuned to the channel last night out of habit. I still refused to watch but after following the live chat I was sucked in. So now tonight I’m finally watching it myself, and pausing to take screenshots of the more outrageous scenes. 

So much snarking potential! I don’t know where to start. 

I'm currently watching the scene where Avery is telling Rachel’s family that she is “going down to Lebanon,” as causally as if she means Lebanon OHIO! 

[StatisticalOutlier]

On 8/4/2019 at 6:55 PM, LennieBriscoe said:

Caesar,  aka Will Smith, 

I think he's a dead ringer for Huggy Bear in the TV series Starsky and Hutch.

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12 hours ago, BravoAddict72 said:

Did anyone catch the picture of Caesar with a child on his fridge? Does he have children? Or an ex?

I saw that, and am willing myself to believe that it's a niece or nephew and not his own child.

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6 hours ago, PinkFlamingo said:

TLC really needs to start to draw the line when they start to dabble in showing financial crimes or domestic violence. That kind of stuff does not make for enjoyable viewing. I feel bad for the guy who fills half of his suitcase with a three month supply of edible undergarments. And that’s not cool. Let’s go back to snark-worthy subjects ok TLC?

I am actually wondering if I can watch this season because I don't think I can handle watching poor damn Caesar, living in that apartment with linoleum tile and what in the world is the damage on the side of his door?  It's the first time I've felt really bad for one of these idiots, and I don't like it.

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9 hours ago, Nancybeth said:

Okay, but Tom looked different in the "Coming Up" clips we saw at the end versus his photos from when Darcy was talking about him, right? I'm not losing my mind? He seemed hotter/younger in those photos.

You're not imagining things.  He went from Remington Steele to a standard doughy Englishman.

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8 hours ago, Barbara Please said:

Tim looked very familiar to me. It's almost like I've seen him on youtube, making a video about how to go from incel to stud in 5 easy steps. (hint: make a lot of money, purchase day-glo veneers,  and drive around in a douche mobile) 

I'm not sure he makes that much money.  Mr. Outlier says his Ferrari is a lower-end one, probably $150,000 new, but they don't make them any more so he most likely bought it used.  What I noticed is that he lives in a very generic looking apartment with a regular parking lot--doesn't scream money to me.

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3 hours ago, RealReality said:

I didn't even know they had coupons for eggs.   I feel like they have normal generic eggs and one brand of fancy eggs in my stores.  There is really no need for coupons.  If you want fancy eggs you're only going to get one brand.

In the Sunday coupons, there are often ones for Eggland's Best eggs.

[RealReality]

1. Oh Darcy....girl....you stay thirsty.....

What's wrong with her hairline, it's so funky....I wonder if she had a facelift and they like pulled her forehead back.  It's bizarre.  

She and her sister look like Muppets.  And not in a good and cute way like beaker.

I have no idea why she wears those horrible extensions.  At a certain age you really have to evaluate if long straight mermaid hair is the right look.  I think she'd have to look better with shorter hair.

Doesn't she have a clothing line? Like house of 7/11 or something?

Anyways tom isn't a romantic, but I appreciate him thinking to give her time to prepare. 

Darcy ALWAYS looks half wilted, so after a long flight .....yikes

2. That girl should absolutely walk her silly American ass into war torn Syria.  Absolutely no one should be called upon to save her if shit goes sideways.  

3. In reading the comments I was on the fence about ceasar.  But no, I don't feel any sympathy for him.  

He is nearly 50 years old and has been "dating" her for 5 years.  He can talk all he likes about wanting to have this magical relationship....but apparently she is supposed to love him for his money and he is supposed to love her for her looks.  Sadly one of them is too dumb to realize what's up.

He says he loves her but their conversations are literally about nothing besides "hey baby" and "I love you." He is just like every other American fiance on this show trying to buy someone better looking and younger.  Only difference is that he dumber and more willing to commit to the sunken cost fallacy.

And so, he really thinks he is going to bring her to the US and she is going to stick around to clip coupons for eggs?  No, he knows what's up and probably figures, like every other one of these guys that once she is hostage here, he can hold a green card over her head.

4. Eyebrows McGee - he looks ridiculous in that car.  It screams tiny penis, so good luck man.  

He is in for a world of trouble because Veronica or whatever his ex's name is is going to cause problems.  And new model chick is never going to be okay with eyebrows spending time and money on a child that isn't biologically his.  She would probably have a problem even if that child (can't remember her name) was his biologically.

I could see this going the way of leida/Eric quick.  

Veronica is going to wish she hadn't interfered with eyebrows other relationships because if she had just been cool they probably aren't going to be as problematic as Jennifer.

*-eyebrows is my nickname for tim

50 minutes ago, iwasish said:

She’s starting to remind me of one of those girls who were part of the Hollywood “Bling Ring” and robbed celebrity homes. They had a very short lived reality show. 

Back to the chocolate panties... was he going to hand them to her or, like the maids in fancy hotels do with  Andes mints, leave them on the nightstand?

Are chocolate panties made of like solid chocolate?  Or is it like some sort of fruit roll-up material so someone can wear them?

Asking for a friend obviously.

[RealReality]

5 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I think he's a dead ringer for Huggy Bear in the TV series Starsky and Hutch.

In the Sunday coupons, there are often ones for Eggland's Best eggs.

I feel like ceasar is a poor man's forest Whittaker and he was giving me ghost dawg realness when he was meditating.

I had no idea, egglands best are like the only brand of fancy eggs I see in the stores so I didn't think they would have to do coupons.  I wonder if they are less than normal eggs with the coupons 🤔

[100Proof]

Seinfeld always has a bit for every conceivable situation people get up to...

Edited August 6, 2019 by 100Proof

[RealReality]

2 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Was just sitting here thinking the same thing!  I think his $800 bucks a month pays for his dreams and maybe that's ok with him and it's worth it to him to live in that fantasy world!

Kind of like a porn addiction!  Heaven only knows what pictures she sends him off camera!!!

She probably sends him fully clothed pictures of her eating breakfast.    

Someone had a gif of a walking sucker and boy does this apply to ceasar.

[RealReality]

12 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I think he's a dead ringer for Huggy Bear in the TV series Starsky and Hutch.

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I saw that, and am willing myself to believe that it's a niece or nephew and not his own child.

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I am actually wondering if I can watch this season because I don't think I can handle watching poor damn Caesar, living in that apartment with linoleum tile and what in the world is the damage on the side of his door?  It's the first time I've felt really bad for one of these idiots, and I don't like it.

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You're not imagining things.  He went from Remington Steele to a standard doughy Englishman.

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I'm not sure he makes that much money.  Mr. Outlier says his Ferrari is a lower-end one, probably $150,000 new, but they don't make them any more so he most likely bought it used.  What I noticed is that he lives in a very generic looking apartment with a regular parking lot--doesn't scream money to me.

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In the Sunday coupons, there are often ones for Eggland's Best eggs.

It's possibly a kit car.  I can't remember how I learned about it....maybe because Jorge had one.  Anyways you get a normal sports car and you use this kit to convert it to look like a Lamborghini.

I think a lot of times they use them in movies so they aren't really demolishing $150k cars.  And guys who want to look fancy also use them....because they want to look like a baller on a beer budget.

[Spike]

18 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Darcy ALWAYS looks half wilted, so after a long flight .....yikes

And half witted.

[RealReality]

Is anyone watching the second episode...because this wedding planner...I'm dying!

[mmal]

Pepper Mostly said:

Caesar deserves whatever he gets. He's a nice guy, nice looking, and he has a good job. He could meet women. But he wants a porn star.

Caesar's, now private, instagram has a picture of him, from a couple of years ago, with a porn star.

He calls himself "black Brazilian stallion" in the text.

Edited August 6, 2019 by mmal

[DaphneCat]

51 minutes ago, RealReality said:

He says he loves her but their conversations are literally about nothing besides "hey baby" and "I love you."

Every conversation we ever get to hear is pretty much this.  Along with "I can't wait to see you, hug you, kiss you, etc." ad nauseum.  That's the reason these "relationships" are such dumpster fires.  Every conversation sounds like it's between horny 13 year olds (my apologies to horny 13 year olds who probably discuss things with much more substance.)

[Morgalisa]

The look on Mr. Lamborghini's face when girlfriend asked him for the $500 dress tells me he doesn't have very much money. 

I don't find Ceasar good looking at all. In fact, when I first saw him I thought he had some kind of medical condition that caused odd features.  It is uncomfortable watching him get used. Even though he arguably deserves it. He seems like such a loser.

Go away Darcy. She and Stacy are kind of funny and boozy looking on the show where they watch the show. Sorry I cant remember the name. Its late.

[RealReality]

9 minutes ago, Morgalisa said:

The look on Mr. Lamborghini's face when girlfriend asked him for the $500 dress tells me he doesn't have very much money. 

I don't find Ceasar good looking at all. In fact, when I first saw him I thought he had some kind of medical condition that caused odd features.  It is uncomfortable watching him get used. Even though he arguably deserves it. He seems like such a loser.

Go away Darcy. She and Stacy are kind of funny and boozy looking on the show where they watch the show. Sorry I cant remember the name. Its late.

Darcy's whole crew looks boozy and floozy and I was not even going for a rhyme.  I bet they all drunkenly sit around and tell each other they could pass for 22.

LOL, I'm surprised that jeniffer didn't tell him that grandma needed a new thousand dollar coat to wear to church a la evelin.  

Caesar is 46, he has been told by every single person in his life that this is a scam.  The producers told him it was a scam.  "Maria" can barely tolerate him on the phone.  She hasn't been able to meet him in five years.  I will not be surprised if she claims Ramadan at some point.  Maybe I'm hard hearted....but unless I find out he has some sort of cognitive issue I just don't  feel sorry for him.  

[Baltimore Betty]

6 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

Every conversation we ever get to hear is pretty much this.  Along with "I can't wait to see you, hug you, kiss you, etc." ad nauseum.  That's the reason these "relationships" are such dumpster fires.  Every conversation sounds like it's between horny 13 year olds (my apologies to horny 13 year olds who probably discuss things with much more substance.)

I have always maintained that the conversations are exactly that, these people don't know each other.