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On 4/14/2022 at 2:59 PM, Frozendiva said:

Screenrant article about Jihoon. Deaven’s side of things. Truth? Who knows.

https://screenrant.com/90-day-fiance-deavan-jihoon-taeyang-birthday-comment/

Jihoon is a slacker but Daevan’s  mouth is a cavern of lies. How is it cheaper for Jihoon to travel to America? That makes no sense. She also hooked up with the new boyfriend shortly after marrying Jihoon so there is that… who knows what the truth is but Daevan has been caught in many lies regarding Ex’s, not just Jihoon. 

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16 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Jihoon is a slacker but Daevan’s  mouth is a cavern of lies. How is it cheaper for Jihoon to travel to America? That makes no sense. She also hooked up with the new boyfriend shortly after marrying Jihoon so there is that… who knows what the truth is but Daevan has been caught in many lies regarding Ex’s, not just Jihoon. 

Korea had forced quarantine for 7 days to 2 weeks for a long time. It costs about $1200-$2000 (if you have to stay in a hotel) so Deavan visiting Jihoon would definitely be more expensive because when JiHoon returns to Korea he is able to stay at home (so no need to pay hotel quarantine costs). 

I believe quarantine is no longer a thing from April 1, 2022 (if you're fully vaccinated) but IIRC Deavan is anti-vaccine so she'd still have to pay for quarantine.... 

Not sure if Jihoon is vaccinated. But, he won't be allowed to enter the US if he isn't. 

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silverspoons

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4 hours ago, watchingtvaddict said:

Korea had forced quarantine for 7 days to 2 weeks for a long time. It costs about $1200-$2000 (if you have to stay in a hotel) so Deavan visiting Jihoon would definitely be more expensive because when JiHoon returns to Korea he is able to stay at home (so no need to pay hotel quarantine costs). 

I believe quarantine is no longer a thing from April 1, 2022 (if you're fully vaccinated) but IIRC Deavan is anti-vaccine so she'd still have to pay for quarantine.... 

Not sure if Jihoon is vaccinated. But, he won't be allowed to enter the US if he isn't. 

The cost I believe is 2 tickets vs 1. If Jihoon comes to the USA, it is one ticket. It Devan has to fly to take the son to him, that is 2 tickets. Utah is pretty straight forward on this cost. I have done  legal work for free for women in Utah and almost all the cases are over a state line.  If it is more then 50 miles, travel expenses are considered like this the 2 tickets vs 1 until the child is of age to fly or travel alone which is 14 (not sure if international is different but over state lines flying is 14). 

Now , it is going to cost Jihoon some crazy dollars to find a place to stay in Utah. Utah hotels, airbnbs, and rentals are so crazy high. My mom had emergency surgery in salt lake and I wanted to go see her, and even with the hospital trying to help me find something, for a week in a "ok" not my preference hotel was almost $2k , this was like best western dated no spa. finding an airbnb for a straight month visit is next to impossible, and would likely be near 10k. My city does not allow airbnb, and my friend has a finished basement and a visiting professor begged to stay and was willing to pay $8k for the 5 weeks because he could find nowhere to book for 5 weeks. She could not do it because the fines are crazy(over 25k for 5 weeks)  if you are found out (and they are doing undercover stings like they do for hookers, for people renting rooms).  People do not understand how many people left CA and moved to Utah/Idaho/NV/AZ. It is such a different place, and sadly not for the better. 

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sainte-chapelle

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7 hours ago, silverspoons said:

The cost I believe is 2 tickets vs 1. If Jihoon comes to the USA, it is one ticket. It Devan has to fly to take the son to him, that is 2 tickets. Utah is pretty straight forward on this cost. I have done  legal work for free for women in Utah and almost all the cases are over a state line.  If it is more then 50 miles, travel expenses are considered like this the 2 tickets vs 1 until the child is of age to fly or travel alone which is 14 (not sure if international is different but over state lines flying is 14). 

Now , it is going to cost Jihoon some crazy dollars to find a place to stay in Utah. Utah hotels, airbnbs, and rentals are so crazy high. My mom had emergency surgery in salt lake and I wanted to go see her, and even with the hospital trying to help me find something, for a week in a "ok" not my preference hotel was almost $2k , this was like best western dated no spa. finding an airbnb for a straight month visit is next to impossible, and would likely be near 10k. My city does not allow airbnb, and my friend has a finished basement and a visiting professor begged to stay and was willing to pay $8k for the 5 weeks because he could find nowhere to book for 5 weeks. She could not do it because the fines are crazy(over 25k for 5 weeks)  if you are found out (and they are doing undercover stings like they do for hookers, for people renting rooms).  People do not understand how many people left CA and moved to Utah/Idaho/NV/AZ. It is such a different place, and sadly not for the better. 

Ahhh ok, I thought her son was still under 2 and would fly for free. Man COVID messed with my sense of time. 😂 

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silverspoons

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3 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Ahhh ok, I thought her son was still under 2 and would fly for free. Man COVID messed with my sense of time. 😂 

I had to think for a second too, but then I remembered that touching 1st birthday for the son in Korea (I know it was not the 1 year according to American birthdays), with Jihoon's family and all the traditions. I believe their son is at least 3 by now. 

Even if he could travel for free, the divorce custody agreement let us hope last for 15 years aqnd they are not back in court fighting every year.  I do feel bad for Jihoon and family if they do not get as much time as they should have but Utah is just so pro-mom as per custody (and I guess would say benefit men for support since support is low) , it is a losing battle for Jihoon. 

 

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Deavan also got real about the couple's decision to present the relationship on the show in a way that didn't align with their reality off camera.

"If you want me to be [100 percent] honest, I don't think there was a romantic connection to begin with," she wrote. "We both felt this way and had talked about it several times."

She explained, "We did everything for the show because he had debts and I had medical bills to pay. When I moved there, we never slept in the same bed and faked it for YouTube and the show."

BITCH, LIAR.

Don't know what her end game was - but she should NEVER have involved children.  again, bitch

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TrininisaScorp

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1 hour ago, MakingBacon said:

I just saw on TMZ that Deavan and Jihoon’s son has been diagnosed with Leukemia. Deavan says she has been unable to contact Jihoon or his family since they have her blocked. I don’t know how to post a link to the article. Prayers for Taeyang and a speedy recovery. 

I just saw this. Poor little Taehyung. He's had so much turbulence. Poor little guy. It does seem like she is pregnant too.  Sigh.

I really don't care for Deavan, and Jihoon was useless (but not a bad guy), but this is just terrible. Poor baby!  

The men of BTS have been my standard for Korean men, so Jihoon was always so shocking to me. LOL  I do feel bad for the guy, though. 

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2 hours ago, MakingBacon said:

I just saw on TMZ that Deavan and Jihoon’s son has been diagnosed with Leukemia. Deavan says she has been unable to contact Jihoon or his family since they have her blocked. I don’t know how to post a link to the article. Prayers for Taeyang and a speedy recovery. 

I have always been team Taeyang in this mess but this whole blocked on social media can't contact bothers me. I was divorced in Utah. My ex lived over 2000 miles away.  We both had to have a phone number on file that was valid, they preferred a landline but would accept a cell phone. If it changed you had to report it. I actually paid for my landline I had on file for years because I did not want to have to go fill out paperwork. This having a phone number on file was manditory in all out of state/county custody and lawyers warned it if changed your number and did not report it the court took it very seriously (that is why I paid extra for that landline, just to know I was always in compliance). I just do not understand why Devean and others say I was blocked on social media so I cant contact someone. These people have no phones, no family, no work, no friends no address to overnight a signed letter. Is social media the only form of contact? This is why the court has the manditory phone number in long distance custody

I also hope that the gofundme Devan's mom started is really going to medical bills. The medical bills that high for a child in Utah shock me. My son had some very serious life long medical issues and living in Utah the 2 groups that have great coverage are pregnant moms and kids. When my son turned 18, it was so hard, we had to go out of state, over 18 was a nightmare but under 18, was super easy. My husband is self employed and we are not low income and we bought a kids policy which is with the HMO that has the only children's hospital in the state. We paid the highest rates because we got no discounts or subsidies and were self employed. My son has pre-exisiting serious dx and I just went down and bought the policy at an agent (like you buy car insurance) and it was not an Obamacare plan , it was private policy but obamacare is avaiable and cheaper. It was $181 month as 2021 (not sure about 2022). It paid for everything except on liquid medcine we had to pay $110 a month for 6 months but it covered hospital stays and testing and treatments that were 6 figures with no deductible, Also with Devan being pregnant she can get on baby your baby which covers her kids at 100% for free so at least he would be 100% covered for 5 months. There is just something about Devan's mom and the wording of the gofundme, quoting average costs of medical care. Devan was very vocal that she carried her own insurance when she had Teayang (people accussed her of being on welfare ). She said paid for her health coverage.  I just would hope that the  50k the mom says is needed asap, is really going towards Taeyang and not Devan's lifestyle. I hate to question it but I have had a lot of medical bills issues for myself, my son once he turned 18, my mom when I had to take over her care, but I have never seen in Utah the inability to get a toddler care and huge bills. I help polygamous women leave, and kids some kids have needed very expensive care and Primary children's does not deny, is non-profit, will help you get insured, will reduce costs based on income until insured, this we need 50k to start just seems off? 

I hope Taeyang gets better. He is at a good hospital and glad to hear the prognois is seems good.

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5 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

They should prosecute people if they misuse gofundme donations or if they pretend to not have insurance when they do.

You can report gofundmes if you think they’re fraudulent. I’ve seen a couple taken down before. But others have stayed up and others are reposted with the correct details. 

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I just caught a little of Devan on live with John Yates. I can only take both in small doses so I did not listen to the whole thing. It is still up now but John is famous for removing lives. She went though the day she found out, she said they are 99% sure it is cancer but there is always that 1% it is not. She was kind of vague or focus more in on her feelings then the dx? John asked her why the gofundme. I listened for as long as I could, she did not say if she had insurance or not when I listened. She said her only income is only fans currently. It is enough to live okay, like pay bills, eat, have a car and be a stay at home mom which is her goal and dream. She said went over in detail the money she made from 90 day, 12k for season 1 and either 14 or 16k for season 2 (2nd season usually pay both cast soJihoon could have made the same amount that year). She made about 4k last year on IG sponsors. She said some stuff about bom bod and vitamins and the low pay sponsors. She made 16k profit off her youtube while in Korea but had to stop it when she came to the US because of the divorce and made $120 since but she admits she did not post because she could not during the divorce and focused on only fans. She did not say what she made on only fans, just it was enough to live decent, car, house, food, Her baby daddy Chris got a new job, his dream job but she would not say what it was and said it does not pay well but she wants him to follow his dreams. 

So the feeling I got was the 50k was going towards  her living expenses more then medical. She said that having a sick kid is full time and one parent needs to be with the kid full time and cant do anything else. She never mentioned the bills were huge, she said medical cost and then went into this long talk about having to be a 24/7 caregiver and she wont be able to work and the gofundme would help.  I fans want to give so she can stay at home and not work and be with her son for the next year, then that is a wonderful blessing. Many parents have to work and it is a struggle so if she is blessed with people giving and they know it is for living not medical and are okay, then she is very lucky. Every year the East Idaho News has a secret Santa that donates over 1 million dollars to families in the community. A good deal of them are struggling with the same careigver, needing to work, sick child or sometimes sick spouse or parents. Eastern Idaho uses the same Utah children;s hospital and the people blessed enough to get a 10 or 20k check so that they can go be with their child in Utah instead of having to work in Idaho and travel on weekends or go into debt because of the long distance feel so blessed, the reactions and thankfulness are some of the most touching videos I have seen. If Deavan is blessed with strangers giving her the gift of time with her son and no commute, I hope she appreciates it as much as the recipents from East Idaho that have kids with the same struggle at the same hospital. 

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2 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I can't believe no one will tell Jihoon what's going on with the son, so that part is not true.   

I thought she was shacking up with the current guy/baby daddy #3, in L.A., and he's supposed to be very successful?   

She wants him to follow his dreams even though they are low paying?  When you have three kids total sometimes you have to get practical.

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5 hours ago, mmal said:

Publicists must be cheap, because how is Deavan able to afford one.

I don't know what's more shocking, Deavan claiming that she makes money from her OnlyFans, or that she still has an OnlyFans given the fact that she kept having "Going Out of Business" sales for it.

Her face is so heavily altered in pics someone else could just take over it.

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Stuckathome

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On 6/1/2022 at 12:00 PM, MrBuhBye said:

She wants him to follow his dreams even though they are low paying?  When you have three kids total sometimes you have to get practical.

It is amazing how delusional some women get for some D.....I worked with one, a highly educated woman who met this guy online. Their 3rd date was him moving cross country to be near his young daughter. He allegedly quit a decent job to do this....once he got there and started looking for work I remember asking her how the job search was going. She said he had two offers, one would pay more and had benefits, but the other was more of his dream type work and "funner" so he was taking that one---the part time, no benefits gig. And all I thought was....um, you are in your late 30s with a kid to support (and this chick got knocked up soon after even after the guy made it clear he had zero interest in more kids), time to forget about fun. She eventually broke up with him and now just blasts how he turned into a lazy loser...the rest of us shake our heads. He always was one! 

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Nicmar

Nicmar

On 5/31/2022 at 2:53 PM, silverspoons said:

I have always been team Taeyang in this mess but this whole blocked on social media can't contact bothers me. I was divorced in Utah. My ex lived over 2000 miles away.  We both had to have a phone number on file that was valid, they preferred a landline but would accept a cell phone. If it changed you had to report it. I actually paid for my landline I had on file for years because I did not want to have to go fill out paperwork. This having a phone number on file was manditory in all out of state/county custody and lawyers warned it if changed your number and did not report it the court took it very seriously (that is why I paid extra for that landline, just to know I was always in compliance). I just do not understand why Devean and others say I was blocked on social media so I cant contact someone. These people have no phones, no family, no work, no friends no address to overnight a signed letter. Is social media the only form of contact? This is why the court has the manditory phone number in long distance custody

I also hope that the gofundme Devan's mom started is really going to medical bills. The medical bills that high for a child in Utah shock me. My son had some very serious life long medical issues and living in Utah the 2 groups that have great coverage are pregnant moms and kids. When my son turned 18, it was so hard, we had to go out of state, over 18 was a nightmare but under 18, was super easy. My husband is self employed and we are not low income and we bought a kids policy which is with the HMO that has the only children's hospital in the state. We paid the highest rates because we got no discounts or subsidies and were self employed. My son has pre-exisiting serious dx and I just went down and bought the policy at an agent (like you buy car insurance) and it was not an Obamacare plan , it was private policy but obamacare is avaiable and cheaper. It was $181 month as 2021 (not sure about 2022). It paid for everything except on liquid medcine we had to pay $110 a month for 6 months but it covered hospital stays and testing and treatments that were 6 figures with no deductible, Also with Devan being pregnant she can get on baby your baby which covers her kids at 100% for free so at least he would be 100% covered for 5 months. There is just something about Devan's mom and the wording of the gofundme, quoting average costs of medical care. Devan was very vocal that she carried her own insurance when she had Teayang (people accussed her of being on welfare ). She said paid for her health coverage.  I just would hope that the  50k the mom says is needed asap, is really going towards Taeyang and not Devan's lifestyle. I hate to question it but I have had a lot of medical bills issues for myself, my son once he turned 18, my mom when I had to take over her care, but I have never seen in Utah the inability to get a toddler care and huge bills. I help polygamous women leave, and kids some kids have needed very expensive care and Primary children's does not deny, is non-profit, will help you get insured, will reduce costs based on income until insured, this we need 50k to start just seems off? 

I hope Taeyang gets better. He is at a good hospital and glad to hear the prognois is seems good.

Your son should have been covered under  your medical policy until they are 26.

endure

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Link to the GFM….. https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-taeyang-beat-childhood-leukemia?utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer

devean’s mother bugs me and of course it’s heartbreaking to hear of any child having health issues and I wish him the best.  But the whole GFM just comes into question for me on so many levels.  Does Devean even have a job?  Don’t all mothers have a 24 hr a day job when they have children?  I could go on but won’t even bother.

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19 minutes ago, endure said:

Link to the GFM….. https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-taeyang-beat-childhood-leukemia?utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer

devean’s mother bugs me and of course it’s heartbreaking to hear of any child having health issues and I wish him the best.  But the whole GFM just comes into question for me on so many levels.  Does Devean even have a job?  Don’t all mothers have a 24 hr a day job when they have children?  I could go on but won’t even bother.

Also while scary it sounds like this leukemia is highly curable.  It’s not like the kid is terminal with a short life expectancy.

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endure

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1 hour ago, MrBuhBye said:

Also while scary it sounds like this leukemia is highly curable.  It’s not like the kid is terminal with a short life expectancy.

It’s def an ordeal and a hardship but agree it’s highly treatable and curable so hopefully all will be well.  I guess it’s the manipulation I sense that makes me uncomfortable. I just looked on her insta and Deaven is selling tshirts now, and has set up a post office box for Tae and of course a link to the go fund me.  

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silverspoons

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On 6/2/2022 at 10:38 AM, Nicmar said:

Your son should have been covered under  your medical policy until they are 26.

Sadly he can't be. We had coverage before the ACA, My husband was self employed so we bought our kids , kids policies and we had a policy for a couple no kids just spouse plus one. When ACA came into effect my husband and my policy became grandmothered. We could keep it but it was age rated, the rate could go up (aqnd it sure did from $236 a month to over 3k) and no changes could be made. I could not add a person, I could not change my ded. We were frozen on that plan as is. Now the vast majority left the plan and  went to buy ACA because it was way cheaper for the same plan but I am not allowed to buy the ACA because I took the genetic test. So we are stuck like a handful of others in certain states (some states have options Utah does not). My son cant be added to our plan because it is pre-aca and it is the only plan that will cover me. Every state is SO different, every year I hope Utah will change. Literally MA is the best by far and Utah , AZ, NV, and OH are the worst. 

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silverspoons

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On 6/2/2022 at 9:48 PM, endure said:

Link to the GFM….. https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-taeyang-beat-childhood-leukemia?utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer

devean’s mother bugs me and of course it’s heartbreaking to hear of any child having health issues and I wish him the best.  But the whole GFM just comes into question for me on so many levels.  Does Devean even have a job?  Don’t all mothers have a 24 hr a day job when they have children?  I could go on but won’t even bother.

I posted in a long post last page, Devan says her only job right now is only fans. She said it was enough to pay her bills but nothing extra.  She used to have a job when the show first started selling furniture online. She said that job provided her insurance, it covered Taeyang's C-section so I wonder why she could not go back to that job or something simliar. People with sick kids have to work sometimes, sad but true. At the clinic I went to with my child, they had this business center room for working parents, you could use a cubicle with a computer  and fiber internet and nurses knew you were in there if there was an emergency. Some parents I think liked the break but still being so close. 

If I were to guess, she has some sort of insurance but does not want to have to spend anything out of pocket (some people plan or know I got kids, something will happen I better have a $5k-10k emergency fund and some people get one $100 medical bill and have a gofundme) and the cost of living in Utah has exploded. She said she pays rent. Utah is like FL right now, when your lease ends expect a HUGE increase, I bet that could have just happened or is going to and she is worried rent is going up. I saw an old apartment I had in a SLC suburb and I paid $500 a month in 2004 and I knew someone who still lived there in 2018 and it was $795,  now it is $2300! I was shocked. Devan said her dream was to be a stay at home mom, and I know so many young Mormon families that now are faced with leave Utah or your wife has to work when 3 years ago these families were living well on one salary. 

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sainte-chapelle

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Wait Deavan is 5 months pregnant ? Jesus take the wheel.  I can’t help but think that this poor child would have been better off in Korea with universal healthcare.

On 6/6/2022 at 12:32 PM, greekmom said:

I have issues with this. I feel sorry for the little boy but Devan did get some TLC $ and O.F. $$. 

Doesn't she have a job? Health insurance??

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I have family in the US with good jobs and insurance….their toddler got cancer and it still bankrupt them.  It boggles the mind.

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She's in the United States... Take the baby to St. Jude's Hospital.  Great cancer treatment.  Free. No go fund me. Her momma could pay for the tickets to Nashville. Actually, St. Jude's might pay for that too!  Problem is, baby REALLY has to have cancer.

Somehow, I just don't trust Deavan.  Not sure WHY! LOL!!!

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sainte-chapelle

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8 hours ago, endure said:

She really likes to change up the narrative to suit her needs, she is a horrible person

She claims the relationship was fake but didn’t she get pregnant and have a miscarriage while living with him in Korea? Also, ‘keeping him alive’ is a touch dramatic as I believe the type of cancer he has is highly treatable and has a recovery rate of over 90%. Not downplaying cancer at all, or the effect on the child and his family but Deavan is putting herself and trashing Jihoon as her top priorities…it is gross.

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5 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

She claims the relationship was fake but didn’t she get pregnant and have a miscarriage while living with him in Korea? Also, ‘keeping him alive’ is a touch dramatic as I believe the type of cancer he has is highly treatable and has a recovery rate of over 90%. Not downplaying cancer at all, or the effect on the child and his family but Deavan is putting herself and trashing Jihoon as her top priorities…it is gross.

If the relationship was fake then she is an admitted scammer and we should disregard anything she says.

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Polliwollidoodle

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17 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

I don't think it's that simple; I think they are constantly full and don't necessarily take everyone who wants to come; they just can't. Plus even if the cost of travel and care is covered, people with sick children can still lose everything financially. 

I can agree with that. I do think that there are other costs, such as housing the family even if the child patient is able to be admitted. I understand all of that. I do have a little problem though still with people who either should be covered by some health insurance (hello employement) or apparently have the means to pay. The govt assistance does cover so much of the medical care. I have to do a side eye at the gofundmes.

I know another family whose child has a very unfortunate diagnosis and is undergoing a lot of treatment. They are vrey financially comfortable and well employed with good medical coverage. In addtion they come from a very financiall comfortable family on both sides. They set up a go fund me and I am trying to decide whether to donate or not. I don't want to be heartless and of course I feel terrible for all they are going through, but I really wonder about the need for a gofundme. I will probably donate and look at it as a sign of support, but I wish it didn't need to be financial like that. 

That's how I feel with  Devin in this case. But with Devin, I feel like there is ever more questionable. 

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7 hours ago, Polliwollidoodle said:

I can agree with that. I do think that there are other costs, such as housing the family even if the child patient is able to be admitted. I understand all of that. I do have a little problem though still with people who either should be covered by some health insurance (hello employement) or apparently have the means to pay. The govt assistance does cover so much of the medical care. I have to do a side eye at the gofundmes.

I know another family whose child has a very unfortunate diagnosis and is undergoing a lot of treatment. They are vrey financially comfortable and well employed with good medical coverage. In addtion they come from a very financiall comfortable family on both sides. They set up a go fund me and I am trying to decide whether to donate or not. I don't want to be heartless and of course I feel terrible for all they are going through, but I really wonder about the need for a gofundme. I will probably donate and look at it as a sign of support, but I wish it didn't need to be financial like that. 

That's how I feel with  Devin in this case. But with Devin, I feel like there is ever more questionable. 

Until you have a sick child, you don’t really realize the expenses you incur that are all on you. Plus one parent (at least) usually ends up having to stop worm so you lose your salary. It adds up fast and even families who may appear to be well off (and may not be so even though they appear so) can struggle to get by financially.

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