"The View": Week of 5/6/2019

[Orillia]

36 minutes ago, Jewell2 said:

In the commercials for the View, Meghan says anyone who wants to achieve the next level in politics must come on their show.

She just wants another chance to break them under her intense interrogation !

[blondiec0332]

This is a blurb from Mika's book.

A straight-talking guide for the newest members of the workforce, with road-tested advice for landing a job, navigating the new world of work, establishing a personal brand, and getting the recognition (and money) you deserve. 

Mika is the daughter of the late diplomat and political scientist Zbigniew Brzezinski, who served as adviser to both Lyndon B. Johnson and Jimmy Carter.

Although I doubt her advice would be to be born into a political family. Maybe Meghan will write a similar book.

[Vixenstud]

What the?

Don't tell me ya'll missed it when Jika (cute, eh?) went straight to Joy for hellos before acknowledging the rest.

Oh to be a fly in Queen Whoopi's head, for someone to not defer to her.

Loved it!

[After7Only]

1 hour ago, ching5411 said:

His stats were governmental stats. Where did Sunny get her stats that supposedly debunked them? She shouldn’t have treated a guest that way unless she actually was able tocite specific studies or stats debunking them. To me it just came off as Sunny being very rude.

The same could be said for the Crenshaw.  He just left it at governments stats.  But didn't cite specifically who or provide much context.  The stats he mentioned didn't appear to to support his conclusions.  For example he said something along the lines that the asylum seekers are reusing the same kids over and over for asylum requests.   While that may have happened a few times, there are tens perhaps hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers, and his implication was all of them are doing this. That's why I though his stats sounded shady. He purposely cited issues of a few to paint a bad picture of the entire group, when most probably have legitimate requests. 

This is what I think Sunny took objection to.   I didn't find her rude at all.  However, Crenshaw got more than a little perturbed by her questioning his "government" stats.   

[atlantaloves]

Okay gals, should I watch today, RBM was so nasty yesterday I almost puked. Let me know, don't think I can take her two days in a row. Thanks. 💋

[Medicine Crow]

58 minutes ago, atlantaloves said:

Okay gals, should I watch today, RBM was so nasty yesterday I almost puked. Let me know, don't think I can take her two days in a row. Thanks. 💋

Although things got a bit loud in the first two segments, the interviews with Mika & Joe & then Common were worth your time.  Just sayin'.

[bannana]

The only reason NutMeg didn't get all shriek and squinty during the Jika interview was because he repeatedly heaped praise on John McCain as the only Republican (elected) that stood up to Trump.  As a result, she sat mostly silent, lapping up the adoration.

[Apprentice79]

18 minutes ago, bannana said:

The only reason NutMeg didn't get all shriek and squinty during the Jika interview was because he repeatedly heaped praise on John McCain as the only Republican (elected) that stood up to Trump.  As a result, she sat mostly silent, lapping up the adoration.

Of course! everybody must kiss the ring of the late John McCain.  

Edited May 7, 2019 by Apprentice79

[Jewell2]

28 minutes ago, bannana said:

The only reason NutMeg didn't get all shriek and squinty during the Jika interview was because he repeatedly heaped praise on John McCain as the only Republican (elected) that stood up to Trump.  As a result, she sat mostly silent, lapping up the adoration.

I was wondering how she was going to react to them.  She has been critical of Mika’s opinions and comments in the past(although, I can’t remember what it was about).  And Mika did not cut her other best friend any slack during the whole Al Franken witch hunt.  Joe did say, while praising John McCain that he wasn’t just saying this because Meghan was sitting there.  I thought it was a bit of a back handed compliment.

[HaaCHOO]

On 5/5/2019 at 5:06 PM, TheView said:

Maybe we should tell ABC to drop View Your Deal. 

Can they afford it?  It's on "The View," (which I watch) and GMA (which I don't--but I see their "deal" promos), and who knows where else they hawk this stuff just to make a few pennies.

[HaaCHOO]

2 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

Although I doubt her advice would be to be born into a political family. Maybe Meghan will write a similar book.

Wonder if the co-author included being young and beautiful is also an asset in the workplace.

[HaaCHOO]

4 hours ago, ari333 said:

Oh big boo hoo Madonna. You are healthy, have health insurance, dental, vision, hearing, and great surgeons, wealth, fame, houses plural. GMAFB already. Many folks would love to have half that

More boo hoo for her single-momhood--obviously getting along without "the help" or drivers.  Yeah, she's cutting coupons out of newspaper supplements her SIX KIDS pick out of dumpsters.  They drink powdered milk.  She shops at Goodwill for all their clothing.  They've never been to a dentist. Yet she struggles on as a covergirl.

[HaaCHOO]

21 hours ago, TheView said:

22 hours ago, deirdra said:

If Whoopi saves the Valley Girl voice just for mocking Meghan, once an episode would be fine with me!

I'd love to see Joy try it 

And that, ladies and gents, would cause a suspension for one of the cohosts!  I have no idea who it would be...but something will hit the fan.

[falltime]

4 hours ago, Cementhead said:

Whoopi still has a horrible cough.  She is coughing a lot today.

I think it was Joy that was coughing a lot.

[HaaCHOO]

On 5/6/2019 at 9:22 AM, sevenrings said:

“No one is calling anyone stupid at this table” lol everybody is sick of Meghan’s shit.

Ummm...I might.  In Whoopi's opening she introduced us to the nurses/staff who "saved her life" when she was in the hospital.  Was Abby listening or does she have Meghan's "attention span of a gnat"?

• Whoopi:  They really kept me laughing and I kept them laughing.
• Abby: I have a feeling you made them laugh a few times too.

Edited May 7, 2019 by HaaCHOO

[bannana]

Celine Dion is 51 but NutMeg had her listed on her blue card as an example for women in their sixties who are still performing.

[HaaCHOO]

And now I'll simmah down.  On their reporting of the fabulous apparel at the Met Gala, and "explaining" CAMP to us (and to each other):  Cher, Rocky Horror Picture Show, drag queens, etc. Whoopi actually said, "John Ritter," and Sunny repeated, "John Ritter." Maybe "Three's Company" was mildly campy, but Whoopi made a silly error and Sunny went along with it.

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[Silver Raven]

1 minute ago, HaaCHOO said:

And now I'll simmah down.  On their reporting of the fabulous apparel at the Met Gala, and "explaining" CAMP to us (and to each other):  Cher, Rocky Horror Picture Show, drag queens, etc. Whoopi actually said, "John Ritter," and Sunny repeated, "John Ritter." Maybe "Three's Company" was mildly campy, but Whoopi made a silly error and Sunny went along with it.

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I had no clue why they included him in campy. . It made zero sense.

[CynicalGirl]

I also had no clue why she said John Ritter. I was thinking John Waters, who I actually think Meghan mentioned. It was hard to tell with all the cross-talk.

[debbie311]

I thought the same thing.  John Ritter?  I wonder if she meant Robin Williams, although I would not exactly consider him campy either.

[heysmilinstrange]

4 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

She did say that Joe Biden would go all Delaware on Trump yesterday. I am trying to understand what does that mean to go all Delaware on somebody. 

I think it means you send the person you're mad at a box of salt water taffy.

[Cementhead]

1 hour ago, falltime said:

I think it was Joy that was coughing a lot.

Oh, thanks.  I just listen to the show from my kitchen table at my laptop with my back to the tv in the living room so I assumed it was Whoopi since her voice did not sound well today.  (I find that by knocking off one of my senses, in this case; sight, it makes the show go down a little easier.  Not by much, but some.)

58 minutes ago, CynicalGirl said:

I also had no clue why she said John Ritter. I was thinking John Waters, who I actually think Meghan mentioned. It was hard to tell with all the cross-talk.

I thought she meant him, too.  Slip of the tongue.

32 minutes ago, heysmilinstrange said:

I think it means you send the person you're mad at a box of salt water taffy. 

Lol!! 🤣

[SuzieSioux]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't camp meant to be something that is unintentional as well? Think of a movie like Mommie Dearest. Perhaps it's one of those terms that have altered over time from the more academic use to a popular use?

Watching today made me wish that The View was a more intelligent show that could discuss Susan Sontag's "Notes on Camp" and how it related to the Met Ball, seeing as that essay was the inspiration for it, but I know I'm wishing for the stars here.

Damn, Meghan had to yell praise about Grace Jones and John Waters and I can't fault her for that, haha.

[Cementhead]

2 minutes ago, SuzieSioux said:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't camp meant to be something that is unintentional as well? Think of a movie like Mommie Dearest. Perhaps it's one of those terms that have altered over time from the more academic use to a popular use?

Watching today made me wish that The View was a more intelligent show that could discuss Susan Sontag's "Notes on Camp" and how it related to the Met Ball, seeing as that essay was the inspiration for it, but I know I'm wishing for the stars here.

Damn, Meghan had to yell praise about Grace Jones and John Waters and I can't fault her for that, haha.

I agree to all of this.  Might I direct you to the Go Fug Yourself web site right now for a very in-depth look and discussion of all things Met Ball.  I have been on it all day. 

To my ears, only Sunny really understood the theme but yes, I too, will have to give props to Meghan for just this one time for her mentions.  I was explaining it to my hubby last night and John Waters was the name I mentioned to help him get it.

[suomi]

I'm not usually inclined to stick up for Whoopi -  but the wayback machine tells us that the original definition of "camp" (in the 1920s, my grandmother's era) referred to exaggerated behavior that was seen as effeminate or homosexual.

Being camp is how John Ritter got away with playing Jack Tripper, who was a ground breaking character at the time.

Jack couldn't have been on the show if his persona and mannerisms didn't fall in the "camp" category - because otherwise ABC would have been accused of inciting people to immorality.

"Camp" was the only way to make male and female roommates palatable. Because otherwise -the horror!!! 

The definition of camp has expanded to include terms like retro, amusingly bad taste, kitsch, etc. 

[SuzieSioux]

2 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

I agree to all of this.  Might I direct you to the Go Fug Yourself web site right now for a very in-depth look and discussion of all things Met Ball.  I have been on it all day. 

To my ears, only Sunny really understood the theme but yes, I too, will have to give props to Meghan for just this one time for her mentions.  I was explaining it to my hubby last night and John Waters was the name I mentioned to help him get it.

Thank you! I'll check it out for sure!

John Waters' Female Trouble is such a gem: "Not on Christmas! Not on Christmas!"

[mongoose]

Haven't watched yet and not sure if I can put this here, and on top of that, I don't know how to link something. Other than that...Raw Story has a fascinating article on Meghan and reason for her "sickness" time off.

[Orillia]

4 hours ago, Jewell2 said:

.  Joe did say, while praising John McCain that he wasn’t just saying this because Meghan was sitting there.

Yeah , sure Joe ...... whatever you say.

[ching5411]

3 hours ago, debbie311 said:

I thought the same thing.  John Ritter?  I wonder if she meant Robin Williams, although I would not exactly consider him campy either.

I think Whoopi was confusing “camp” as in the over exaggeration of fashion that the ladies were discussing with “camp” as in campy comedy. The latter meaning could definitely apply to John Ritter and Three’s Company.

[deirdra]

2 hours ago, SuzieSioux said:

Damn, Meghan had to yell praise about Grace Jones and John Waters and I can't fault her for that, haha.

But she should have waited until it was her turn to talk.  Her screeching while others had the floor made it impossible to hear what anyone was saying.

Edited May 8, 2019 by deirdra

[Tosia]

45 minutes ago, deirdra said:

But she should have waited until it was her turn to talk.  Her screeching while others had the floor made it impossible to hear what anyone was saying.

I believe that's her plan. 

Don't let anyone hear what others say.   

Disgusting. 

[sugarbaker design]

9 hours ago, Vixenstud said:

What the?

Don't tell me ya'll missed it when Jika (cute, eh?) went straight to Joy for hellos before acknowledging the rest.

Oh to be a fly in Queen Whoopi's head, for someone to not defer to her.

Loved it!

I thought so too, but later in the show Common went directly to the center chair as well, which leads me to believe it was a direction from production,  a cue to stay away from a still recovering Whoopi.

[xingu]

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I got a really big feeling of sour grapes from the ladies when Whoopi was congratulated the Daytime Emmy Award winners.  I think I even heard Joy mutter "Whatever".

But one thing we can be sure of.  WG sent big bouquets to all the winners.  She does have class.

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You mean not everyone just fast forwards thru those segments? People buy this stuff?  huh... 

Sadly, I did. I actually bought those Daddy Sponge Thingies (I won't mention the name) and they literally dissolved in water after three uses. 

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I also love Stevie Nicks,  I'm sure Meghan's loves for her is only because she's from Arizona.

I would love to hear her thoughts on Sheriff Joe.

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I'm not usually inclined to stick up for Whoopi -  but the wayback machine tells us that the original definition of "camp" (in the 1920s, my grandmother's era) referred to exaggerated behavior that was seen as effeminate or homosexual.

With all respect, I think your wayback machine needs a reboot.

It goes back much further than that: "In 1870, in a letter produced in evidence at his examination before a magistrate at Bow-street, London, on suspicion of then-illegal homosexual acts, crossdresser Frederick Park referred to his "campish undertakings"; but the letter does not make clear what these were. In 1909, the Oxford English Dictionary gave the first print citation of camp as ostentatious, exaggerated, affected, theatrical; effeminate or homosexual; pertaining to, characteristic of, homosexuals. So as a noun, 'camp' behaviour, mannerisms, et cetera. (cf. quot. 1909); a man exhibiting such behaviour." (Wiki)

Ms Wintour may choose to rewrite history, but I won't tolerate it. How does a rich, spoiled, dreadfully disgustingly intolerable human being like Wintour get to set what is camp? She has absolutely no credibility on this issue.* Unless you consider oversized-sunglasses and a bob-cut camp.  Which I don't.

Sontag may have brought the phrase into current usage, but she most certainly did not define it. 

Lest we forget, Oscar Wilde was the epitome of camp.  Upon entering prison for homosexuality and asked if he had any personal possessions he stated:  I have nothing to declare but my genius.

Now that's camp.

*This was the first Met Gala that allowed trans people to participate.  

I have a soft spot for Common.  I like to see a man show emotion.  And that picture with him and his Mom:  Sweetness.  I had no idea he was 47.  Damn he's aging fine.

Edited May 8, 2019 by xingu

[TheGreenKnight]

12 hours ago, Medicine Crow said:

Although things got a bit loud in the first two segments, the interviews with Mika & Joe & then Common were worth your time.  Just sayin'.

I thought the same thing. During the camp topic, I think Joy said something or other that Whoopi / McCain didn't agree with and they both bellowed so loud, I think Joy / Sunny just stopped talking because it was not a point worth fighting over. And all I could think is, are they really shouting over a topic about campiness? How is this real?

Meanwhile McCain continues to parade as if she is the Hag Queen of LGBT. Bitch, we do not want you.

[HaaCHOO]

3 hours ago, xingu said:

Sadly, I did. I actually bought those Daddy Sponge Thingies (I won't mention the name) and they literally dissolved in water after three uses. 

I bought a "set" when they first came out 6-7 years ago Mine last a few months and do a great job.  I usually buy a "holiday" set long after the holidays--a great bargain.  I don't care what color they are.  Scrub Daddy!  (Someone chooses cleaning stuff for the holidays?)

[HaaCHOO]

3 hours ago, xingu said:

*This was the first Met Gala that allowed trans people to participate.  

Knowingly.

[HaaCHOO]

8 hours ago, SuzieSioux said:

Damn, Meghan had to yell praise about Grace Jones and John Waters and I can't fault her for that, haha.

But how many times did she have to yell out "Grace Jones"?  I don't think it was about Grace...it was about acknowledging our princess.

8 hours ago, Cementhead said:

9 hours ago, CynicalGirl said:

I also had no clue why she said John Ritter. I was thinking John Waters, who I actually think Meghan mentioned. It was hard to tell with all the cross-talk.

I thought she meant him, too.  Slip of the tongue.

Slip of the tongue for Whoopi, but Sunny?  Maybe trying anything to get Whoopi to be nice to her?

[Jaded]

13 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

This is a blurb from Mika's book.

A straight-talking guide for the newest members of the workforce, with road-tested advice for landing a job, navigating the new world of work, establishing a personal brand, and getting the recognition (and money) you deserve. 

Mika is the daughter of the late diplomat and political scientist Zbigniew Brzezinski, who served as adviser to both Lyndon B. Johnson and Jimmy Carter.

Although I doubt her advice would be to be born into a political family. Maybe Meghan will write a similar book.

Mika and her self serving "Know Your Value" dog and pony show..... 🙄



She and Joe are really good at giving lip service in situations that will benefit them which it sounds like they did during their appearance on The View. Then next thing you know they'll be saying something completely different elsewhere. It's also disgusting how they are trying to help revive their vile friend Mark Halperin's career. Mika once said on Morning Joe that Mark was more than willing to meet with his accusers, apologize to them face to face and that she had tried to offer him to them to facilitate the suggested meetings. She was none to pleased with the blow back she received from that and had to issue an apology.

[Morgalisa]

It annoys me that Mika and Joe always passive aggressively disrespect Beto. The people who helped elect Trump by giving him generous air time. And yukking it up with him. And they laugh at Beto "moving his arms too much" , "speaking in platitudes."

[Haleth]

20 hours ago, CynicalGirl said:

Another thing I bought before was Peepers reading/sunglasses for half-price. $11 vs. $22 on their website, also totally worth it. 

I bought these too.  They're not going to set any fashion trend but they are perfect for sitting on the deck with a book.  I also bought a pair of thick Sherpa socks for a Christmas present.  I forget what they are called/who the mfr is, but they are adorable.

[sugarbaker design]

1 hour ago, Morgalisa said:

It annoys me that Mika and Joe always passive aggressively disrespect Beto. The people who helped elect Trump by giving him generous air time. And yukking it up with him. And they laugh at Beto "moving his arms too much" , "speaking in platitudes."

Don't forget the daily berating of HRC by Mika about those darn emails.  That literally went on for months.

[blondiec0332]

7 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

Meanwhile McCain continues to parade as if she is the Hag Queen of LGBT. Bitch, we do not want you.

So much this.  This annoys me to no fucking end.  How can you be an ally of the LGTBQ community when you support people who are not allies of the LGTBQ community?

Two of my best friends are gay men and they wouldn't be caught dead being friends with her.

[Vixenstud]

11 hours ago, sugarbaker design said:

I thought so too, but later in the show Common went directly to the center chair as well, which leads me to believe it was a direction from production,  a cue to stay away from a still recovering Whoopi.

Just hadda piss on my dark-hearted parade, didn't you?!

[tribeca]

The one thing Madonna has always known how to do is get people talking. I didn’t read the article but the ladies of view sure seemed miffed at it.  Abby “I don’t feel sorry for Madonna “.  Abby people say that about you all the time.  Joy Madonna needs to reinvent herself. Hasn’t Madonna done that a million times?  Whoopie just seems annoyed with the whole story.  Have a feeling the ladies reactions are more entertaining then the article.

 JMHO Joe who talks way too much first praise of John McCain was sincere then he noticed it shut Megan up so kept on saying it.  It wasn’t a terrible plan. 

Happy Whoopee  had good nurses.  When I was in the hospital with  pneumonia asthma I had to hold on to the wall and crawl to the bathroom.  If I asked a nurse for help they got annoyed.    

[Haleth]

Ok, I was really enjoying the show until Meghan had to bring up her father.  It’s not about you, Meghan!  Made it thru 45 mins.

Jill Biden is a lovely lady. 

Edited May 8, 2019 by Haleth

[Bronzedog]

It really irritates me when Nutmeg says that brain cancer is worse than other terminal cancers or fatal diseases.  Dead is dead, Meghan.  Those left behind are as grief stricken whether their loved one died from brain cancer, Alzheimer's, ALS, whatever.  They are all miserable diseases.  It's also more tragic when the person who died is in their teens, twenties or relatively young as opposed to someone in their 80s.  Shut up!

Baby Archie? Umm.  

[tinkerbell]

1 minute ago, Bronzedog said:

It really irritates me when Nutmeg says that brain cancer is worse than other terminal cancers or fatal diseases.  Dead is dead, Meghan.  Those left behind are as grief stricken whether their loved one died from brain cancer, Alzheimer's, ALS, whatever.  They are all miserable diseases.  It's also more tragic when the person who died is in their teens, twenties or relatively young as opposed to someone in their 80s.  Shut up!

Baby Archie? Umm.  

I agree. The thing is, she actually believes that a certain kind of cancer is more tragic, more noble, than other diseases.  

We will ALL DIE.  heart disease, diabetes, cancer, accident,  we all go.  We can only hope that it is later rather than sooner, and that people will remember us.  But good lord, when I die I want  my kids to remember me with fondness, not obsess over me and talk, tweet, and grieve publicly for months/years.  

[Apprentice79]

35 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

It really irritates me when Nutmeg says that brain cancer is worse than other terminal cancers or fatal diseases.  Dead is dead, Meghan.  Those left behind are as grief stricken whether their loved one died from brain cancer, Alzheimer's, ALS, whatever.  They are all miserable diseases.  It's also more tragic when the person who died is in their teens, twenties or relatively young as opposed to someone in their 80s.  Shut up!

Baby Archie? Umm.  

This is why I did not watch the Jill Biden interview because I did not want to hear Megan crow again about her dad and knowing what the Bidens had gone through with their son losing his life to cancer.  He left small children behind. Megan was a fully formed adult when she lost hers.

Also Megan was really quiet in the first block, I guess her smackdown by Seth last night had her feeling blue. I want to kiss Seth for that lovely exchange. She did speak at the end though. 

I am glad that the ladies acknowledged the shooting but did not speak on it in depth. Megan would have derailed the conversation with her hysterias as soon as Joy brought up gun control.  Whoopie acted like a moderator and kept the topics going..

Edited May 8, 2019 by Apprentice79

[ching5411]

3 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

So much this.  This annoys me to no fucking end.  How can you be an ally of the LGTBQ community when you support people who are not allies of the LGTBQ community?

Two of my best friends are gay men and they wouldn't be caught dead being friends with her.

Clay Aiken is gay and he considers Meghan to be one of his best friends.

[tinkerbell]

2 minutes ago, ching5411 said:

Clay Aiken is gay and he considers Meghan to be one of his best friends.

I've heard Meghan say it, I don't know if Clay shares that opinion.