The Brown Kids

[ginger90]

8 hours ago, DeeReynolds said:

In that bachelorette "bride tribe" photo, I spy Aspen and Mykelti top left. And isn't that another Brown 4th from the left on the top row?

The only sisters there were Aspyn and Mykelti.

[Pickleinthemiddle]

14 hours ago, DeeReynolds said:

another Brown 4th from the left on the top row?

I thought the same thing and that it looked like Gwendolyn.  But decided it wasn't her.

[ginger90]

[Elizzikra]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I love to see family heirlooms passed along…

[Gramto6]

30 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

I love to see family heirlooms passed along…

Me too! That is a gorgeous set!

[ginger90]

Not sure this link will work. This is Paedon’s TikTok referenced in another thread:

[xwordfanatik]

Oh yeah, I've always wondered if Paedon (and some of the other young men) have the urge to punch Kootie's face, when it comes down to how their mothers (Christine and Janelle) are treated/mistreated by their sperm donor.  

[Gramto6]

I haven't watched yet...the 9PM time slot here in MT on Monday works better for me than the Sunday slots. But I have read all the posts so I know what to look out for. From what I have read...what an asshat!!! No surprise!!

[truebluesmoky]

Paedon is difficult to watch, because even though I love that he’s a huge supporter of his mom, he looks and sounds the most like Kody of any of the kids and even has his mannerisms.

[ginger90]

[GeeGolly]

How long is this trip? Doesn't Savannah have school?

[ginger90]

8 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

How long is this trip? Doesn't Savannah have school?

September 16-21, depending on their level, they could be there until the 24th.

Savanah may have gotten permission from her school for an educational field trip. 

[TurtlePower]

On 9/19/2022 at 7:51 PM, ginger90 said:

Not sure this link will work. This is Paedon’s TikTok referenced in another thread:

Meri Brown needs to take note of this and maybe curtail her bragging and claims of “brave” and “strong woman”.

Christine never once bragged about being brave or independent. 

[laurakaye]

On 9/19/2022 at 9:40 PM, truebluesmoky said:

Paedon is difficult to watch, because even though I love that he’s a huge supporter of his mom, he looks and sounds the most like Kody of any of the kids and even has his mannerisms.

He is usually very intense in his TikToks.  I do like his occasional insights into the family dynamics, but you're right, in that respect he does sadly remind me of Kody.

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Savanah may have gotten permission from her school for an educational field trip. 

If by "educational" you mean watching a bunch of grown women giggling and squealing and taking selfies while they pretend to chug from a suggestive looking tube of pink poison, then possibly. :)

I wonder which is worse - going on a trip sponsored by LuLaRoe or Plexus? 😳

[xwordfanatik]

5 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Very nice picture.  

[GeeGolly]

Maddie and Savannah look more alike in this pic than Maddie and Aspyn.

[deirdra]

Maddie and Savannah look more like their mother Janelle; Aspyn seems to have more Kootie gene expression mixed in with Christine genes.

I wish they'd all stand up straight so they don't end up as hunchbacks when they are older, but is seems to be a feature of the phone-obsessed selfie generation.

Edited September 21, 2022 by deirdra

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, deirdra said:

I wish they'd all stand up straight so they don't end up as hunchbacks when they are older, but is seems to be a feature of the phone-obsessed selfie generation.

I think that taller girls have always been more likely to hunch over; I don't think it has anything to do with the "phone-obsessed selfie generation."

[GeeGolly]

1 hour ago, deirdra said:

Maddie and Savannah look more like their mother Janelle; Aspyn seems to have more Kootie gene expression mixed in with Christine genes.

I wish they'd all stand up straight so they don't end up as hunchbacks when they are older, but is seems to be a feature of the phone-obsessed selfie generation.

Well that makes sense. I have a hard time remembering who belongs to who.

[Roslyn]

3 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

I think that taller girls have always been more likely to hunch over; I don't think it has anything to do with the "phone-obsessed selfie generation."

Carrying babies at a young age possibly.

[Scarlett45]

Quoting @LilyD and @Mahamid Frauded Me from the Robyn thread. 
 

I think the relationships between Robyn’s kids and the rest of the Brown kids have been formed by several factors: probably proximity- they were raised more like step siblings that never lived together than a cohesive family (the way the Brown kids were, given Christine was caregiver for all the kids and they lived in the same house in Lehi), Robyn wanting her kids to be stand-offish, individual personalities and characteristics (Dayton being on the ASD spectrum is an example of this) and the sheer number of people. Humans only have so much emotional energy- with that many siblings you’re only going to have social time and intimate emotional connection with a certain amount of them. I think Leon has a fairly strong relationship with their close in age siblings (The first set of kids, Logan-Hunter) and wishes Logan/Michelle only the best for their upcoming wedding but has been living away from the “family hub” for a while and doing their thing with Audrey. They may get their emotional needs met from Audrey, their Mom, friends etc and not specifically from their siblings although they are “cool with” their peer group of siblings.

[laurakaye]

I agree that Robyn's kids were more like step-siblings to the original Brownies...I also think that Robyn did a masterful job of pretending that she wanted her kids to blend in with the Big Three's kids while simultaneously working on keeping them separate and "special" so that Kody would automatically want/need to spend more time with them than anyone else in his family.  All part of her diabolical master plan...the funny part is, she won the game, but look at the prize.  

[deirdra]

I agree Laurakaye, and I've also wondered if Robyn cultivated their specialness to insist on more of Kootie's time. At one point she said Day'un was diagnosed with Aspergers by someone, not an MD or specialist since the term Aspergers was no longer used by that time. As someone who is on the spectrum myself, he appears to also be high-functioning, introverted, shy and prefers his own company, not wanting to participate in some of the family events (and considering his family, who can blame him?).  Yet Robyn had to get a mansion with two masters since she expects Day'un to live with her forever, even though he drives & spent 4 days alone on a road trip to see the Grand Canyon and is in college.

Then there is Aurora the anxious; instead of getting her help to overcome anxiety and develop coping mechanisms, Robyn & Kootie coddle her like a baby. Breanna being the middle kid seems to get ignored or expected to do everything as part of Aurorabreanna. Aurora may indulge Robyn's fear of everything to stand out.

King Sol was the most favoured son, but he's aging out of cuteness and that scene in the drainage ditch suggested that Kootie thinks he needs more training to be a boy's boy. But when you prefer to pay a sitter $20 so you can earn $200 doing God knows what, it is not surprising why he hasn't had a strong father figure in his life with Dad hiding in the closet, garage or off on solo drives. And he had a lung infection once when he was a baby so must be coddled forever.

Areolabella has also been coddled, still wearing diapers at 4, sleeping in the marital bed at 5 and keeping the whole house up half the night.  The sleep training should have started when she was an infant; you'd think people with 4-17 other kids would know that. As the baby of the family, Robyn seems to want to keep her as a baby.

Not a healthy environment for ANY of her kids!

Edited September 22, 2022 by deirdra

[Cetacean]

Spot on, @deirdra!

[ginger90]

[GeeGolly]

Logan looks a little like he might have been smoking some wacky tobaccy. 

[ginger90]

Ysabel posted this:

[xwordfanatik]

And Kootie scornfully calls his older kids "a clique."  It's nice to see they support each other, and get together.  

[Joan of Argh]

I love that Christine has such a great relationship with all those kids, it must have made it an easy decision…. Ummm stay in Flagstaff where no one gives a shit about me or Truely OR move to Utah where we’ll  be surrounded with love and people who WANT us in their lives!

Bye Kody the Cockroach and his nasty queen Sobbin Robyn! 🖕

[Scarlett45]

12 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Ysabel posted this:

What a sweet photo. They all look so happy. 

[Ms.Lulu]

12 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Ysabel posted this:

Well, we can see who looked after Truely while Christine was in Hawaii. And it wasn't Kody and Robyn.

[laurakaye]

37 minutes ago, Ms.Lulu said:

Well, we can see who looked after Truely while Christine was in Hawaii. And it wasn't Kody and Robyn.

That's what makes Kody's claim to want 50% custody of Truely even more disgusting on Kody's end and heartbreaking on Truely's end.  If Kody did get that 50%, Truely would be forced to come to Flagstaff and end up stuck in the house hanging out with Sol and Ari and the nanny...it's not like Kody would take her out anywhere, just the two of them, to spend time together - I can't see Robyn allowing that.  Truely would just blend into the daily chaos and dysfunction of Kody's real family, then get sent back to Utah solo on a plane.

[Natalie68]

16 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

And Kootie scornfully calls his older kids "a clique."  It's nice to see they support each other, and get together.  

Normal people just refer to them as siblings Kody.  Kody is a dick.  I personally don't think he likes kids.  They are just proof he has a working penis and sperm and super manly 🙄

[dariafan]

I’m sad at all the parentification   Kody tends to act more of a step parent than a parent ( if that makes sense ). And I wonder if Robyn has an undiagnosed mental illness   Or is she just lazy ?

[ginger90]

[Rabbit Hutch]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Wow. Lots symbolism going on is this pic.  Would love to see that "column" of rings (THE "I") come a crashing down on Kootie's head.  Can I get an AMEN!  🤣😛🙄

[deirdra]

Gwendlyn's comments would be interesting. She's snarky, like us.

Edited October 2, 2022 by deirdra

[gingerella]

On 9/28/2022 at 6:22 AM, laurakaye said:

If Kody did get that 50%, Truely would be forced to come to Flagstaff and end up stuck in the house hanging out with Sol and Ari and the nanny...it's not like Kody would take her out anywhere, just the two of them, to spend time together - I can't see Robyn allowing that.  Truely would just blend into the daily chaos and dysfunction of Kody's real family, then get sent back to Utah solo on a plane.

I disagree. I think Truely would BE the nanny. Even worse IMO, but par for the course with these idiots.

[Absolom]

Possibly so and horrifying.

[LilyD]

Oh yes Gwen! Pleaaaase spill the beans and entertain us with your snarky opinion! Now that would be fun!

[Art Of Noiz]

In googling a book I might want to read, I came across this article. 

https://religiondispatches.org/the-quiet-passing-of-fundamentalist-mormon-prophet-lynn-a-thompson-suggests-polygamous-recognition-remains-a-distant-hope/

Lyn Thompson, Mitch's relative - gpa? Dad?, died October 5. 

[GeeGolly]

18 minutes ago, Art Of Noiz said:

In googling a book I might want to read, I came across this article. 

https://religiondispatches.org/the-quiet-passing-of-fundamentalist-mormon-prophet-lynn-a-thompson-suggests-polygamous-recognition-remains-a-distant-hope/

Lyn Thompson, Mitch's relative - gpa? Dad?, died October 5. 

Yes, I think Lynn Thompson is Mitch's dad. Interestingly, IIRC Mitch has two sisters who have also been on TV. One on Seeking Sister Wives and one on My Five Wives.

[ginger90]

Posted by Janelle:

[Ms.Lulu]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Posted by Janelle:

Janelle's kids always seem so happy when Kody isn't around. Contrast with Robyn's and Meri's kids who who rarely seem happy. The Christine/Janelle combo just seemed to have work.

[ginger90]

[xwordfanatik]

They've had a LONG engagement, unlike the fundamental Mormons short "courtships."

Kootie must be so jealous of his successful kids.  He's made a balls-up of most everything in his miserable life, in comparison.  I'd credit their mothers with instilling the kids' values, especially since Sobbyn took over.  Sobbyn infantilizes her kids, and they seemingly will never be independent of her.  

Sad.

Edited October 13, 2022 by xwordfanatik
correction

[Teafortwo]

On 10/13/2022 at 1:16 PM, xwordfanatik said:

They've had a LONG engagement, unlike the fundamental Mormons short "courtships."

Kootie must be so jealous of his successful kids.  He's made a balls-up of most everything in his miserable life, in comparison.  I'd credit their mothers with instilling the kids' values, especially since Sobbyn took over.  Sobbyn infantilizes her kids, and they seemingly will never be independent of her.  

Sad.

He probably doesn't feel like he screwed up in any way. Nothing is ever his fault. I believe he pats himself on the back for having gotten a long-running TeeVee show and feels that the exposure has only benefited all his kids and wives. 

I agree completely that Janelle, Christine, and Meri have been the ones to instill value in their collective children. Hunter and Logan in particular seem to be upstanding and outstanding young men.

Edited October 14, 2022 by Teafortwo

[Elizzikra]

Quote

He probably doesn't feel like he screwed up in any way. Nothing is ever his fault. I believe he pats himself on the back for having gotten a long-running TeeVee show and feels that the exposure has only benefited all his kids and wives. 

Considering he seems to think that parenting ends when your kid turns 18...

[Onecattoo]

On 10/13/2022 at 10:55 AM, Teafortwo said:

He probably doesn't feel like he screwed up in any way. Nothing is ever his fault. I believe he pats himself on the back for having gotten a long-running TeeVee show and feels that the exposure has only benefited all his kids and wives. 

I agree completely that Janelle, Christine, and Meri have been the ones to instill value in their collective children. Hunter and Logan in particular seem to be upstanding and outstanding young men.

I’d say only Christine (who raised Janelles kids).  I don’t think Mary instilled anything in her child but a sense of self-importance and entitlement and the ability to be offended by anything and everything…along with the belief that everyone who doesn’t agree with their beliefs is the enemy.  

[GleamingMist]

There is a part of me that would love Logan or Michelle to answer some questions about their wedding, I am so curious how this will all play out given the current situation.  Will Meri even be there? Where will everyone sit? Are any of the family in the wedding party? Some major events have gone down (the divorce, Leon's transition) and now they will all potentially be together.

It is a very small part however, I have nothing but respect for Logan and Michelle keeping their lives away from the public eye. I'm sure some of the siblings will post on their social media, if nothing else Janelle will make some kind of tribute.