All Past Seasons of the Late Lamented Show

[EricaShadows]

People who've read my previous posts know that I absolutely LOATHE Kelli's determination that these girls maintain the SAME weight they auditioned at for however many years they're on the squad.  It's rare for people to maintain the exact same weight for months and years on end and most of the ones who do are not only strict about it, but work with nutritionists, dieticians, etc. (i.e. people who are specifically trained to understand the human body and how to feed it).  Kelli is CLUELESS about all of that.  It's evident in the fact that she can go on about how each girl's body is so unique and so different so the uniform has to be tailored especially for them then turn around and say that every girl of a specific height has to be a specific weight.  Um, I'm no genius but even I can see that these girls are often built differently so they're not all going to weigh the exact same.  Too bad Kelli can't see that.

[go4luca]

The Schram weight gain incident always mystified me too.  I never saw it.  

[DCCFan2021]

5 hours ago, DCCOracle said:

Which episode was it when Kitty lined a bunch of the girls up and told them all to lose weight? I think Nicole Bulcher, Veronica and Brittney were all in the line.

Cameo episode of season 8, maybe episode 5?

[CrazyMoon]

My lowest adult weight was 121 at 5-6" for about 5 minutes in my late 20s...I could wear a size 6...height/weight tables said 120 to 155 depending on body frame/structure. That said, I looked awful. My doctor was concerned...It didn't work for me because I have a larger/curvier frame. Some women are natural thin/slim...I'm not one of them. 

[RedDelicious]

3 hours ago, CrazyMoon said:

My lowest adult weight was 121 at 5-6" for about 5 minutes in my late 20s...I could wear a size 6...height/weight tables said 120 to 155 depending on body frame/structure. That said, I looked awful. My doctor was concerned...It didn't work for me because I have a larger/curvier frame. Some women are natural thin/slim...I'm not one of them. 

Omg. I was 123-125 at my lowest at 5'5" and I was in a size 2 / extra small, but mostly a comfortable size 4. I was in my early to mid thirties. At 123 people started asking questions. I'm naturally muscular and I was small. Now I'm toting the Covid 15 on top of the 40 I gained from the absolute worst years of my life. Time to recover now. Oof. I easily lost 20 pounds in two months, two years ago. I'm trying to do that again before perimenopause hits. 

Last night Kat's interview scene was on Pluto. Love her or hate her, Brenda and Charlotte did her dirty and that was NOT fair. I would categorize DCC dress up days as Ladies Who Lunch, not business casual and certainly not business professional. I thought her dress was fine and I am typically pretty conservative about things like that. She looked pulled together and I thought the cut touts were a fun touch. Not at all suggestive. I felt so bad for her. And Charlotte going on about how she seemed "disinterested". Well Brenda just humiliated her, what did you expect? If Kat got out-danced, that was one thing. But what they did to her during interviews was not right.

[DCC615Nash]

22 hours ago, EricaShadows said:

People who've read my previous posts know that I absolutely LOATHE Kelli's determination that these girls maintain the SAME weight they auditioned at for however many years they're on the squad.  It's rare for people to maintain the exact same weight for months and years on end and most of the ones who do are not only strict about it, but work with nutritionists, dieticians, etc. (i.e. people who are specifically trained to understand the human body and how to feed it).  Kelli is CLUELESS about all of that.  It's evident in the fact that she can go on about how each girl's body is so unique and so different so the uniform has to be tailored especially for them then turn around and say that every girl of a specific height has to be a specific weight.  Um, I'm no genius but even I can see that these girls are often built differently so they're not all going to weigh the exact same.  Too bad Kelli can't see that.

Especially the girls who are teenagers when they start. The is no way an 18 year rookie is going to have the same body proportions/ shape when they go into their fifth season being a 22/23 year old. 

[EricaShadows]

I remember hearing that a way to figure out what a good weight for you is to start by the "standard" of a person standing 5 feet tall should weight about 100 pounds and go up 5 pounds for every inch.  Thus, a 5'6" girl should weigh about 130 pounds and a 5'9" girl should weigh about 145 pounds.  Add about 1 or 2% for a bigger-boned girl and subtract that for a smaller-boned girl (a general way to tell your frame size is to wrap your thumb and middle finger around the smallest part of your wrist. If they overlap, you are small framed. If they touch, you are medium framed. If you can barely get them to touch or they are not touching, you have a large frame.)

[onthebubble]

27 minutes ago, EricaShadows said:

I remember hearing that a way to figure out what a good weight for you is to start by the "standard" of a person standing 5 feet tall should weight about 100 pounds and go up 5 pounds for every inch.  Thus, a 5'6" girl should weigh about 130 pounds and a 5'9" girl should weigh about 145 pounds.  Add about 1 or 2% for a bigger-boned girl and subtract that for a smaller-boned girl (a general way to tell your frame size is to wrap your thumb and middle finger around the smallest part of your wrist. If they overlap, you are small framed. If they touch, you are medium framed. If you can barely get them to touch or they are not touching, you have a large frame.)

According to the finger thumb test, I am a fatty 😂

[EricaShadows]

4 minutes ago, onthebubble said:

According to the finger thumb test, I am a fatty 😂

Nope.  Just "big-boned"  I'm big-boned myself and, according to the formula I listed, I should be around 140 or so.  However, I could see Kelli wanting me to be around 120 or whatever weight it is because that's the weight the other girls my height in Training Camp are.

[DCCFan2021]

2 hours ago, EricaShadows said:

I remember hearing that a way to figure out what a good weight for you is to start by the "standard" of a person standing 5 feet tall should weight about 100 pounds and go up 5 pounds for every inch.  Thus, a 5'6" girl should weigh about 130 pounds and a 5'9" girl should weigh about 145 pounds.  Add about 1 or 2% for a bigger-boned girl and subtract that for a smaller-boned girl (a general way to tell your frame size is to wrap your thumb and middle finger around the smallest part of your wrist. If they overlap, you are small framed. If they touch, you are medium framed. If you can barely get them to touch or they are not touching, you have a large frame.)

Courtney from S9 was 5'3" and was asked to be 104 lbs. Colby was 5'9" and was asked to be 136 lbs. Vivian was about 5'5" (estimated from the kickline, never actually stated on the show) and was asked to be 114 lbs. Now I'm being completely hypocritical, considering that my weight goals essentially line up with DCC expectations, but you should not make the "normal" weight of your team be ten pounds lighter than what is considered healthy.

[DCC-UK]

3 hours ago, DCCFan2021 said:

Courtney from S9 was 5'3" and was asked to be 104 lbs. Colby was 5'9" and was asked to be 136 lbs. Vivian was about 5'5" (estimated from the kickline, never actually stated on the show) and was asked to be 114 lbs. Now I'm being completely hypocritical, considering that my weight goals essentially line up with DCC expectations, but you should not make the "normal" weight of your team be ten pounds lighter than what is considered healthy.

It's DCC land ,of course it makes sense! My biggest pet peeve is that they expect all girls at the same height to weigh the same. Taking the petite girls as an example, Jenna Lene was tiny and only 18 when she tried out, she had a very girl-like figure. Courtney tried out 2 season later aged 24, still petite but with a more womanly figure. How can you expect them to look the same with a 6 year age gap?

[vanillagum]

10 hours ago, EricaShadows said:

I remember hearing that a way to figure out what a good weight for you is to start by the "standard" of a person standing 5 feet tall should weight about 100 pounds and go up 5 pounds for every inch.  Thus, a 5'6" girl should weigh about 130 pounds and a 5'9" girl should weigh about 145 pounds.  Add about 1 or 2% for a bigger-boned girl and subtract that for a smaller-boned girl (a general way to tell your frame size is to wrap your thumb and middle finger around the smallest part of your wrist. If they overlap, you are small framed. If they touch, you are medium framed. If you can barely get them to touch or they are not touching, you have a large frame.)

interesting. i’m 5’7 and was 145 last year fitting into size 2 jeans with very little stretch. i was a little ribby too. my family was worried. also according to this i’m small framed lol

bodies vary so much that “ideal weights” are so silly to me. yeah you should probably not be over 200 pounds but other than that rigidity is so unnecessary 

kelli just looks like a goddamn fool harping on numbers that are both 1) arbitrary and 2) generally underweight. she looks stupid and like a terrible person 

if someone fits the uniform well and looks good, why does the number matter? like someone pointed out before, s12 lauren had a lot of muscle. do we really think she was the teeny number “recommended” by kelli? no. did she still look good in the uniform? obviously 

[Jess14]

12 hours ago, EricaShadows said:

I remember hearing that a way to figure out what a good weight for you is to start by the "standard" of a person standing 5 feet tall should weight about 100 pounds and go up 5 pounds for every inch.  Thus, a 5'6" girl should weigh about 130 pounds and a 5'9" girl should weigh about 145 pounds.  Add about 1 or 2% for a bigger-boned girl and subtract that for a smaller-boned girl (a general way to tell your frame size is to wrap your thumb and middle finger around the smallest part of your wrist. If they overlap, you are small framed. If they touch, you are medium framed. If you can barely get them to touch or they are not touching, you have a large frame.)

To me, this sounds more like the weight of someone at their absolute fittest, not a “good weight.” I’m 5 feet tall, and when I was around 24, I got down to 99 pounds (I was in law school as a 3L with lots of time to plan out my meals perfectly and work out during the day. I definitely don’t have that time now lol). I was tiny, like being able to fit into a 00 tiny, and that is even as someone who is naturally on the curvier side. My doctor was concerned. I would say a 110 is more of a good weight for someone at 5 feet, even 105 perhaps, but 100 pounds is really pushing it. 

Edited April 20, 2021 by Jess14

[ByTor]

11 hours ago, DCCFan2021 said:

Courtney from S9 was 5'3" and was asked to be 104 lbs.

I'm 5'3", my doctor was concerned when I got down to 112. Setting a standard of 104 seems crazy to me.

55 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

To me, this sounds more like the weight of someone at their absolute fittest, not a “good weight.” 

I have seen the same chart EricaShadows is talking about, and it actually is supposed to be "ideal" weight, not absolute fittest. Not saying I agree with it, though.

[Jess14]

38 minutes ago, ByTor said:

I have seen the same chart EricaShadows is talking about, and it actually is supposed to be "ideal" weight, not absolute fittest. Not saying I agree with it, though.

Oh, I wasn’t at all claiming that @EricaShadows posted incorrect information, so if it came off that way, that wasn’t my intent. I was just pointing out that an adult at 100 pounds, 5 feet tall, would be a very, vary small person. I will say though that I consider “ideal weight” to mean “absolute fittest” so that makes sense to me, but that’s just a matter of interpretation lol. 
 

All of these standards are crazy however! 

Edited April 20, 2021 by Jess14

[ByTor]

6 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

Oh, I wasn’t at all claiming that @EricaShadows posted incorrect information, so if it came off that way, that wasn’t my intent. I was just pointing out that an adult at 100 pounds, 5 feet tall, would be a very, vary small person. I will say though that I consider “ideal weight” to mean “absolute fittest” so that makes sense to me, but that’s just a matter of interpretation lol. 

I get what you're saying...and we are for sure in agreement. Even going by BMI charts, which are known to be flawed, there is a wide range of what is considered "healthy."

[Jazzhands]

15 hours ago, DCCFan2021 said:

Courtney from S9 was 5'3" and was asked to be 104 lbs. Colby was 5'9" and was asked to be 136 lbs. Vivian was about 5'5" (estimated from the kickline, never actually stated on the show) and was asked to be 114 lbs. Now I'm being completely hypocritical, considering that my weight goals essentially line up with DCC expectations, but you should not make the "normal" weight of your team be ten pounds lighter than what is considered healthy.

I think it's getting at least somewhat better than it used to be, though.  At least I hope so. 

When I danced growing up a long, long time ago, we got weighed once a week beginning at age 8.  Through high school, we got weighed before ballet class every day and were warned if we ever went more than 3 pounds over our allowed weight.  I'm 5'10" and my set point was 117, so i was warned at 120.  One of my friends who went to a top arts school on a dance scholarship died of a heart attack at age 19 due to a combination of anorexia and the cocaine she'd started snorting to keep weight off. She was 5'3" and probably around 100 pounds, and she was constantly called fat and told to drop weight. 

That kind of focus on weight really screws you up.  I remember watching the episode when Colby's weight was discussed and thinking how practically skeletal she looked and then nearly falling out of my chair when I found out that she was my current weight.  Every time I look in the mirror, I hear my ballet mistress telling me how thick I look through the middle.  My feet are shot, my ankles ache, and my back hurts constantly.  

And yet ... I still miss it.  

[EricaShadows]

8 hours ago, Jess14 said:

To me, this sounds more like the weight of someone at their absolute fittest, not a “good weight.” I’m 5 feet tall, and when I was around 24, I got down to 99 pounds (I was in law school as a 3L with lots of time to plan out my meals perfectly and work out during the day. I definitely don’t have that time now lol). I was tiny, like being able to fit into a 00 tiny, and that is even as someone who is naturally on the curvier side. My doctor was concerned. I would say a 110 is more of a good weight for someone at 5 feet, even 105 perhaps, but 100 pounds is really pushing it. 

 

7 hours ago, ByTor said:

I'm 5'3", my doctor was concerned when I got down to 112. Setting a standard of 104 seems crazy to me.

I have seen the same chart EricaShadows is talking about, and it actually is supposed to be "ideal" weight, not absolute fittest. Not saying I agree with it, though.

 

7 hours ago, Jess14 said:

Oh, I wasn’t at all claiming that @EricaShadows posted incorrect information, so if it came off that way, that wasn’t my intent. I was just pointing out that an adult at 100 pounds, 5 feet tall, would be a very, vary small person. I will say though that I consider “ideal weight” to mean “absolute fittest” so that makes sense to me, but that’s just a matter of interpretation lol. 
 

All of these standards are crazy however! 

The info I had was for athletes (and some would say dancers fit into that category).  However, the people I got it from said to also work with your doctor to make sure of health.  The fact that Kelli is pushing for unhealthy and unrealistic weights for her girls and cares more about the uniform (and the DCC reputation) more then she cares about the girls IN the uniform is one of many reasons why I think she should retire.  Dance and physical appearance are only TWO of the many things a girl should have as a DCC and the fact that most of Kelli's favorites would tank media day in more than a few other organizations tells me more about how NOT to run an organization.

[LilyD]

The DCC-management should trust their eyes and not the scales. You simply cannot state as a general rule that any 5.3 girl needs to be around 104 pounds. As some pointed out, it has to do with frame, muscles and yes..bone structure.

When I was in my early twenties  I was really tiny; being 5.3, size 2 and 116-118 pounds. When put on scales, they were always looking for those 10 extra pounds and couldn't figure out where I was hiding those 😂 Apparently, it had something to do with me being really sporty with a lot more muscle tissue than body fat and my bone structure? Well...I still don't care about numbers, I'm happy with what I see in the mirror so....

[Mabinogia]

1 hour ago, LilyD said:

The DCC-management should trust their eyes and not the scales.

Exactly. The scale can't tell you who is going to look good in that tiny little uniform. If you see unpleasant giggle, then that is all you need to know. Weight is just a number. 

[CrazyMoon]

3 hours ago, LilyD said:

The DCC-management should trust their eyes and not the scales. You simply cannot state as a general rule that any 5.3 girl needs to be around 104 pounds. As some pointed out, it has to do with frame, muscles and yes..bone structure.

When I was in my early twenties  I was really tiny; being 5.3, size 2 and 116-118 pounds. When put on scales, they were always looking for those 10 extra pounds and couldn't figure out where I was hiding those 😂 Apparently, it had something to do with me being really sporty with a lot more muscle tissue than body fat and my bone structure? Well...I still don't care about numbers, I'm happy with what I see in the mirror so....

My 16yo grandsons (cousins, not twins) have birthdays 3 weeks apart...both are now 6'1"...one weighs 145#, the other 170#...and it is strictly a difference in body type...#1 has the long slender body of the men in my family, #2 has the dense body/heavy frame of both their dads...

[mizzhyer]

On 4/10/2021 at 1:12 AM, DancingDina13 said:

It was so thin and flat . She badly needed volume 

It looked oily and greased down to me... I have flat hair and if i pull it back in a tight pony ... it does the same thing. 🧐

[kalibean]

My mom watches the show too, so when I’m visiting, I’ll glance over to her at the breakfast table and say “your hair sucks!” And she’ll reply back “I’m gonna curl it!” Me: “you don’t take breakfast seriously?! You don’t respect what do here?”

And we’ll both giggle. We both have fine, straight hair and it does totally suck if we don’t put some effort in. But we’re also southern sooooo threshold for flat hair is pretty low 😂

[DCC-UK]

8 hours ago, kalibean said:

My mom watches the show too, so when I’m visiting, I’ll glance over to her at the breakfast table and say “your hair sucks!” And she’ll reply back “I’m gonna curl it!” Me: “you don’t take breakfast seriously?! You don’t respect what do here?”

And we’ll both giggle. We both have fine, straight hair and it does totally suck if we don’t put some effort in. But we’re also southern sooooo threshold for flat hair is pretty low 😂

I'm so jealous you have someone to chat to about the show! I don't know anyone IRL who watches it, that's why I'm here!

[ByTor]

17 hours ago, kalibean said:

We both have fine, straight hair and it does totally suck if we don’t put some effort in. But we’re also southern sooooo threshold for flat hair is pretty low 😂

The shrub on top of my head & I would like to have a word with you about hair that "sucks" 🤪

[Bigorangecatmom]

1 hour ago, ByTor said:

The shrub on top of my head & I would like to have a word with you about hair that "sucks" 🤪

Marshall would take one look at me and reach for the extensions. Or he might quit. 

[aeroluv327]

On 4/19/2021 at 7:49 PM, DCC615Nash said:

Especially the girls who are teenagers when they start. The is no way an 18 year rookie is going to have the same body proportions/ shape when they go into their fifth season being a 22/23 year old. 

I mean, just look at Jenna or Maddie in their rookie years vs. their 5th or 6th year.  By Kelli's standards, they should have both been on weight warning.  (And who knows, maybe they were and we didn't see it, but they were group leaders and at least up for point of the triangle which makes me doubt that they were punished for weight gain.)  But they both looked like little girls the first year!  They grew up and grew into more womanly figures.  

[allitator]

On 4/24/2021 at 7:39 AM, aeroluv327 said:

I mean, just look at Jenna or Maddie in their rookie years vs. their 5th or 6th year.  By Kelli's standards, they should have both been on weight warning.  (And who knows, maybe they were and we didn't see it, but they were group leaders and at least up for point of the triangle which makes me doubt that they were punished for weight gain.)  But they both looked like little girls the first year!  They grew up and grew into more womanly figures.  

(It may have already been mentioned), but that EXACT thing happened to Megan Sharp. She joined the team at 18, and like four years later they were mad and said she had “outgrown her first year shorts”. 
 

If she really was too heavy and needed to lose, I understand that that’s part of the job. But somehow assuming that a woman will not change physically at all from 18-22... that’s just delusional. 

Edited April 25, 2021 by allitator

[allitator]

Drinking every time “UCLA” is said in Daphne’s rookie season is a good way to get blackout drunk...

[allitator]

1 hour ago, KnyghtRyder said:

Or “sisterhood” 😂 

My absolute favorite “fake” DCC:MTT scene is when the production team films Daphne back in LA and she goes to the little bakery with her friends. They all get cookies, but when they are supposed to take a bite of their cookies, the girl on the front right barely even gets it to her mouth. 🤣 Like, obviously these girls don’t eat cookies! I mean it’s LA! There must be a vegan yoga bakery within the production radius that these girls could have had a zucchini-carrot-wheatgrass juice shot. Jeez.  

When I think fake scenes in this show I always think of the “oh I’m so glad we went to Cowboys Fit and talked to Cade...” scene with Miranda, Lexie, and Alexis. 🙄

[Pucca]

2 hours ago, allitator said:

When I think fake scenes in this show I always think of the “oh I’m so glad we went to Cowboys Fit and talked to Cade...” scene with Miranda, Lexie, and Alexis. 🙄

That scene is beyond cringeworthy. These girls can't act and shouldn't be forced to do so. Just do exactly what the other poster said.. talk to the camera and say that they went there and then show the clip of that hot guy. 

[Lona]

4 hours ago, allitator said:

Drinking every time “UCLA” is said in Daphne’s rookie season is a good way to get blackout drunk...

Anyone remember the “graduation” plotline? 

I have no idea how long that was, but it felt like it went on for a good 10-15 mins haha. 
 

It totally came off as Charlotte ordering CMT to show how the organization “supports education.” 😂

 

[LilyD]

On 4/24/2021 at 1:39 PM, aeroluv327 said:

I mean, just look at Jenna or Maddie in their rookie years vs. their 5th or 6th year.  By Kelli's standards, they should have both been on weight warning. 

Ok, I’ll admit, you got me confused here. Maddie; absolutely! I would kill to have that body but yes, she got pretty soft especially around her waist.

As for Jenna: Agreed, the teeny tiny little girl in her rookie year became a woman. That’s what I noticed too, but big enough to be on weight warning?? I didn’t see it then and don’t see it now. If I remember correctly, there was a picture of Jenna with a friend in a pool which was shown here on the forum. Some of us actually commented that she looked better here and post-DCC with a few extra pounds and some feminine curves...

[RedDelicious]

I am on the Pluto rotation and Kelli's Spanish 1 vocabulary words bug the ever loving sh*t out of me. 

[aeroluv327]

2 hours ago, LilyD said:

Ok, I’ll admit, you got me confused here. Maddie; absolutely! I would kill to have that body but yes, she got pretty soft especially around her waist.

As for Jenna: Agreed, the teeny tiny little girl in her rookie year became a woman. That’s what I noticed too, but big enough to be on weight warning?? I didn’t see it then and don’t see it now. If I remember correctly, there was a picture of Jenna with a friend in a pool which was shown here on the forum. Some of us actually commented that she looked better here and post-DCC with a few extra pounds and some feminine curves...

I wasn't saying that Jenna should have been on weight warning, I don't think that at all.  But if Kelli was following the "no weight gain at all once you make the squad", then she would have been.  

[scorpio1031]

1 hour ago, RedDelicious said:

I am on the Pluto rotation and Kelli's Spanish 1 vocabulary words bug the ever loving sh*t out of me. 

Ro - ho!!  Ro - ho!!  And don't forget the international sign for "trip off the end of a poorly built runway"

[DCC-UK]

7 hours ago, RedDelicious said:

I am on the Pluto rotation and Kelli's Spanish 1 vocabulary words bug the ever loving sh*t out of me. 

One of my biggest bugbears! If she could speak more than a handful of words, I'd be impressed but it sounds like she only knows about 3.

[Pucca]

I was watching I think season 4 (or 5) and I really felt bad for Margaret. By all accounts, she seemed like an incredibly sweet girl. I don't remember seeing her dance, but it didn't seem like dance was the issue. Kelli basically told her that she was too ugly to be a DCC. Why bring her into training camp at all if you're just going to insult her? Her hair was beautiful curly too and they straightened it to look like everyone else. Meghan Martinez was another one that Kelli basically said wasn't pretty enough to be a cheerleader. Then she totally lied and said something like she was too technical and that the dances are just power pom.  In later seasons all she does is rave about someone's technical training so which is it Kelli?

I thought both Margaret and Meghan M were lovely and deserved better. 

Lately I've been really feeling bad for all the girls that have been flat out humiliated on the show. They didn't deserve that. .... well except maybe Vivian.. :)

 

 

 

[DancingDina13]

Speaking of cringe worthy scenes I always hated that scene where Demi Lovato is talking with Jinelle. “So I hear your mom cheered with our choreographer Judy ?” Says Jinelle and it’s such a forced conversation and Demi’s attitude screams she didn’t want to be there or talk with them. 

[filishtay]

1 hour ago, DancingDina13 said:

Speaking of cringe worthy scenes I always hated that scene where Demi Lovato is talking with Jinelle. “So I hear your mom cheered with our choreographer Judy ?” Says Jinelle and it’s such a forced conversation and Demi’s attitude screams she didn’t want to be there or talk with them. 

No Demi seemed very engaging. I just think it was cringy because the other girls were just standing around watching listening to just Jinelle and Demi have a conversation. In social settings, when two people are separately having a convo with many people standing there and tuning in, it’s awkward. The other girls probably got to talk to her too which we don’t know for sure since we just saw Jinelle talking, but I kind of wish I saw someone else leading the conversation with Demi aside from Jinelle. 

[Raffthelaugh]

This is a long one so please do stick with me but at the risk of being booed off of here . . . (;

Am I the only one that wasn’t all that floored by the veteran candidate cuts last season? I’ve been binging the seasons (a little out of order) and trying to catch up on these boards (but there is A LOT here). Most of the comments seem to disagree with the cuts. 
In the industry you’re often times hired for one year, and that is your contract. At the end of that year, you audition with the rest of the newcomers. If you fit the directors’ visions for that year, congrats one more year. If not, thank you for your time we owe you nothing.

I understand that this year brought upon everyone unprecedented circumstances and was a little disappointed to see how they were handled but I’m not sure I disagree with the cuts entirely. 
It seems that Hannah and Brennan were offered to defer their training camps (maybe I misunderstood) and come back when they were feeling better. This is more than most performers are offered. 
Also, as much as I love watching Brennan’s journey and think she is probably a fabulous teammate; she is difficult to watch perform even at her best. She dances like she is being held at gun point and forced to- maybe this was a product of the environment she was in. Who knows. I think Hannah may have been fabulous in a modern dance company or a niche-contemporary troop. She dances angrily for ‘DCC style’. At first it came off as spunky and hard hitting but when she lost that this year, her personality wasn’t translating in her dance and like I said, the best word I could come up with for how she looked is ‘angry’. She was dancing like she didn’t want to be there. I wish they had taken time to recoup to 100%. 

Lily’s cut broke my heart to watch. Season 14 was the first season I watched and I was such a fan. I think she would’ve done way better in a different group. Say what you will about Victoria but I do think dancing next to her is one of the things that saved Lily last year (not that Victoria saved her but dancing next to someone other than MM lol). When she was lumped in with Meredith and Madeline they treated them as a group instead of recognizing her strengths (she was by far the strongest of the 3). I think they just always lumped her with Meredith unfortunately and should’ve allowed her to shine in group 3.  I was so sad to see her cut but I understand the frustration of a choreographer of having the same notes for someone year over year. Do you cut your losses and hope that you can fill the shoes or do you keep banging your head on the wall. To be clear for Lily, I would’ve banged my head on the wall lol. 
This is getting crazy in length so I’m Going to conclude with Meredith by saying I really don’t understand how she made the team in the first place. I don’t. She’s beautiful- there’s my something nice to say. 
 

Like I said I’m slowly catching up on these threads and I try to search old forums before posting but thank you all for sticking with me here!

Xx

Edited April 30, 2021 by Raffthelaugh

[Raffthelaugh]

On 3/31/2021 at 4:54 PM, allitator said:

“But she’s so pretty...” *eye roll*

One of my favorite moments was when Judy said she’s tired of pretty girls who can’t kick. Do we think Kelli let her eat that night? Is that how she ended up on the stool? 

[allitator]

6 hours ago, Raffthelaugh said:

One of my favorite moments was when Judy said she’s tired of pretty girls who can’t kick. Do we think Kelli let her eat that night? Is that how she ended up on the stool? 

Haha if I recall correctly she even said that to one of the TCC’s during an office visit!  Truly they have no filter. 

[ByTor]

7 hours ago, Raffthelaugh said:

In the industry you’re often times hired for one year, and that is your contract. At the end of that year, you audition with the rest of the newcomers. If you fit the directors’ visions for that year, congrats one more year. If not, thank you for your time we owe you nothing.

Great point. I think logically we know that, but then we have our favorites and it gets emotional.

[StellaCL]

On 4/19/2021 at 2:56 PM, RedDelicious said:

Last night Kat's interview scene was on Pluto. Love her or hate her, Brenda and Charlotte did her dirty and that was NOT fair. I would categorize DCC dress up days as Ladies Who Lunch, not business casual and certainly not business professional. I thought her dress was fine and I am typically pretty conservative about things like that. She looked pulled together and I thought the cut touts were a fun touch. Not at all suggestive. I felt so bad for her. And Charlotte going on about how she seemed "disinterested". Well Brenda just humiliated her, what did you expect? If Kat got out-danced, that was one thing. But what they did to her during interviews was not right.

The more I see Kat's interview and cut I feel like it was a set-up ahead of time. Someone wanted to cut her prior to tryouts and it got spun for that TV suspense and flair. Unfortunately, she is no exception. Seems like every season they single out a veteran and are completely contradictory in their judgements (Keyra, Tara, Hannah, Kristen - I feel like all 4 of them were set up and "spun" in a certain way for TV). Kat's interview wasn't even that bad which was then followed by the mess of Jessika in Season 13 with and embarrassing and miserable interview, but in that special DCC way it  was never mentioned again and Jessika sailed right into her third year on the team. 

Edited April 30, 2021 by StellaCL

[Raffthelaugh]

5 hours ago, ByTor said:

Great point. I think logically we know that, but then we have our favorites and it gets emotional.

Yea I understand that. It’s probably also different for those that have watched year over year and seen them “grow” as opposed to just binging all of the seasons out of order which I may or may not have done lol

[Tuxcat]

6 minutes ago, Raffthelaugh said:

Yea I understand that. It’s probably also different for those that have watched year over year and seen them “grow” as opposed to just binging all of the seasons out of order which I may or may not have done lol

I think it was more the context of the time. The how (over zoom in succession), the when (after only one week of camp), the why (many teams elected to not host auditions <let alone a reality show> and just keep their vets in 2020)... There are many who opposed the cuts because DCC touts itself as a humanitarian sisterhood. So to watch a self- promoting REALITY show chop its hurting vets at the height of an unknown and scary time... was questionable. I think it was less about the dancers themselves and more about everything else.  Plus there were all sorts of conspiracy theories because all the cut vets came from the same group. Vets get cut every year... last year was just different.

[go4luca]

17 hours ago, DancingDina13 said:

Speaking of cringe worthy scenes I always hated that scene where Demi Lovato is talking with Jinelle. “So I hear your mom cheered with our choreographer Judy ?” Says Jinelle and it’s such a forced conversation and Demi’s attitude screams she didn’t want to be there or talk with them. 

I found the entire Demi segment forced and uncomfortable.  Demi looked like she didn't even want to be there.

[MrsEVH]

1 hour ago, KnyghtRyder said:

I hate to “hate” on girls...but I never understood the appeal of Jessika. (Not Jessica Marie or Jessica Allison, who were both adorable IMO). Jessika reminds me of Lauren Conrad...whom I find completely generic...forgettable...in DCC vernacular, “vanilla.”  And after she fumbled her way through her...what...third finals interview? KelFine has cut girls for significantly more minor reasons.  

Didn't Tasha mess up her panel interview in her 2nd or 3rd season?

[kalibean]

1 hour ago, MrsEVH said:

Didn't Tasha mess up her panel interview in her 2nd or 3rd season?

She fumbled with the answers, but I thought she handled it maturely and responsibly. (Tho knowing the answer would have been best!)

I think a lot of questions are just to see how they handle a gotcha question in real life - if they’re approached with politics/harassment/etc at appearances, will they keep their cool? Tasha was a mature, well liked presence in the locker room, super pretty glamour girl for the squad, killer swimsuit pics, and a mom...girl wasn’t going anywhere. 
 

As for Kat, I always thought the dress was ill fitting, so wondered if the placement of those cut outs showed way more than they should have. That dress without the cut outs at the rib/torso/possibly lower chest area would have been perfection. Loved that bright pink.