thewhiteowl 8,090 March 11, 2019 Jimmy is conflicted when his father in law asks him to tamper with evidence. Senior offers to help with the case. Share this post Link to post
HurricaneVal 11,933 March 12, 2019 Senior!?! Again?!? Why is he still here? He should be off--waaaaay off-screen--taking Talia to the Louvre instead of bothering MCRT. What the hell kind of dirt does Robert Wagner have with the producers anyhow? Now, if they were to bring him in as the big bad for the next season, I could get behind that. Something about how Senior has been working a long con, and all this time Gibbs has known about it and has been giving him just enough rope to hang himself with. I can think of no other good reason why Gibbs allows him to keep coming back and getting involved in their cases. 7 Share this post Link to post
Katy M 38,861 March 13, 2019 At least they had a semi-plausible reason for Senior to be there instead of just hanging out with his son's friends. Nice good-bye for Ducky, I guess. I kind of wish that he'd been the one to discover the lie. That would have been a good way to go out. David McCallum has earned a great retirement. Other than that, fairly boring episode. 8 Share this post Link to post
mythoughtis 18,796 March 13, 2019 This is all we get for Ducky’s retirement episode? I sure hope there’s a retirement party. In some ways, I could see where there might not be- the character didn’t even tell anyone when his mother died. I’ll miss the character and the actor. I hope the actor enjoys his third act. He’s sure earned it. I had no doubt jimmy would do the right thing. 12 Share this post Link to post
stonehaven 5,031 March 13, 2019 I only saw a bit of it but what happened to Larry Miller???? Man, he looks rough... EDIT: I just looked it up as I really was concerned...Apparently, he fell and hit his head in 2013..injuring his head severely..was even in a coma....Wow, a survivor for sure... Edited March 13, 2019 by stonehaven 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post
Magnumfangirl 1,276 March 13, 2019 I doubt that's the last of Ducky. Surely, we'll get one more Ducky story before the season finale. Abby got more fanfare than that and Pauley was feuding with everybody. The episode was boring, but Palmer has to have an episode at least once per season. On a side note, David McCallum looked really good in this one. He looked closer to Mark Harmon's age than 85! If a character from a long running show ever deserved a prequel, it's Ducky. Edited March 13, 2019 by Magnumfangirl 8 Share this post Link to post
preeya 11,286 March 13, 2019 Is NCIS Losing A Member Of The Team In Season 16 After All? https://goo.gl/2a1BXJ Share this post Link to post
basiltherat 13,140 March 13, 2019 I was hoping for a Brina sighting! By the way, how did Brina come from THAT family??? a weasely gambling dad and a crying man-child following in his footsteops! I think Gibbs knew Jimmy was lying from the start because Jimmy has as many "tells" as his father-in-law. 4 Share this post Link to post
Loves2Dance 14,103 March 13, 2019 Why wouldn't the funeral guy just cremate the body? Wouldn't that be way, way easier to get away with? 2 Share this post Link to post
Trey 8,215 March 13, 2019 The son was the gambler, not the dad. Poor old Dad was just trying to clean up his son's mess once again. I believe Jimmy told Torres in the elevator conversation that Gibbs knew he was lying, and knew that Jimmy knew he knew. 1 Share this post Link to post
Trey 8,215 March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Loves2Dance said: Why wouldn't the funeral guy just cremate the body? Wouldn't that be way, way easier to get away with? He said he didn't want the dead marine to just 'disappear' because he knew there would be family wanting to know what happened to him; he was supposed to cremate him but just couldn't bring himself to do it. The bear attack cover story was doomed to fail, 2 Share this post Link to post
Loves2Dance 14,103 March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Trey said: He said he didn't want the dead marine to just 'disappear' because he knew there would be family wanting to know what happened to him; he was supposed to cremate him but just couldn't bring himself to do it. The bear attack cover story was doomed to fail, Yes, but it makes no logical sense. If he cared about his son he would have just done it and gotten it over with. Share this post Link to post
Katy M 38,861 March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, morriss said: Which rule ## is "Don't lie to Gibbs" ??? One would think it would be Rule 1. 58 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said: Yes, but it makes no logical sense. If he cared about his son he would have just done it and gotten it over with. He was willing to cover up a murder, but not doom a family to a life of wondering what happened to their son. Everybody has their line somewhere. I love people in my family, but I don't think I'd even go as far as trying to cover up the murder. Maybe I would. But, the original deal was just to wipe the debt clean right? they didn't kidnap him until after he didn't cremate the body. I think my mind wandered at some point. 2 Share this post Link to post
MrWhyt 5,354 March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Loves2Dance said: Yes, but it makes no logical sense. If he cared about his son he would have just done it and gotten it over with. Like almost everything in life it's not a black or white situation. He cares about his son but also didn't want to put another family through the pain of having a loved one "disappear". Humans very rarely base their decisions on pure logic. 4 Share this post Link to post
HurricaneVal 11,933 March 13, 2019 This was an interesting episode, despite Senior. I do love Palmer-centric episodes. I also agree that we're not done with Ducky. But I'm not happy with the treatment of Tim. He's the published author, but the way Ellie and Torres were getting after him about grammar and spelling was just bullying. If that had been the old days, and it it had been Tony trying that, Tim would have verbally skewered him. And speaking of Senior, it was nice that he was just peripherally involved and was drawn in rather than just busting in and accepted as part of the team. But..........it made no sense that he was in that poker game in the first place. No sense. Supposedly that was a friendly game with proprietors of neighborhood businesses. Senior neither owns a business, nor does he have any reason to be in that neighborhood. I appreciate that the writers tried to insert Senior into the story in a different way, but it made no sense. 5 Share this post Link to post
enoughcats 4,903 March 13, 2019 In the NCIS of my chosen world, that photo would be cropped to the immediate left of Tim. And Ducky would be in a hazy background Greek Chorus with Fornell and even Senior with Fornell's daughter, Tim's sister and Vance's children. 1 Share this post Link to post
Katy M 38,861 March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, enoughcats said: In the NCIS of my chosen world, that photo would be cropped to the immediate left of Tim. And Ducky would be in a hazy background Greek Chorus with Fornell and even Senior with Fornell's daughter, Tim's sister and Vance's children. I'll agree to the crop, but we have to switch Ellie and Jack's places and I'd like to movie Ducky over also, even though he's retiring, 1 Share this post Link to post
eel2178 1,392 March 13, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 3:10 PM, HurricaneVal said: Senior!?! Again?!? Why is he still here? He should be off--waaaaay off-screen--taking Talia to the Louvre instead of bothering MCRT. Also, why wasn't Bishop trying to feel him out to see if he knows anything about Ziva still being alive? 5 Share this post Link to post
eel2178 1,392 March 13, 2019 8 hours ago, morriss said: Which rule ## is "Don't lie to Gibbs" ??? Palmer also violated the, "Don't interrupt Gibbs in interrogation" rule. 1 Share this post Link to post
eel2178 1,392 March 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Trey said: The bear attack cover story was doomed to fail, It should have been pretty obvious that the fake bear claw marks were inflicted post-mortem. 3 Share this post Link to post
Katy M 38,861 March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, eel2178 said: Also, why wasn't Bishop trying to feel him out to see if he knows anything about Ziva still being alive? Because she decided she didn't care. I support that position. 1 Share this post Link to post
secnarf 8,001 March 14, 2019 Saw a re-run tonight in which Jimmy excitedly mentioned that his dad "is a research ophthalmologist" and would often pontificate about the eye at the dinner table. Seems his father got a bit of retconning to fit in with the episode's storyline (though I had totally forgot about this too, until seeing the rerun tonight). 3 Share this post Link to post
preeya 11,286 March 14, 2019 7 hours ago, Katy M said: Which rule ## is "Don't lie to Gibbs" ??? There is none. If anyone is interested here's a link to Gibbs' Rules: https://goo.gl/i8oNKV Share this post Link to post
secnarf 8,001 March 14, 2019 34 minutes ago, preeya said: There is none. If anyone is interested here's a link to Gibbs' Rules: https://goo.gl/i8oNKV Actually, from that link, it would seem 'Don't lie to Gibbs' is McGee's rule number 1. Share this post Link to post
Kelda Feegle 1,848 March 14, 2019 I just couldn't make it through this episode, even using the ff button. I have never been able to watch Senior and there was no point him being there for this at all anyway. I have enjoyed watching Palmer growing as a character but this was all too cringy for me - I think it is the first ever episode that I have bailed on in the entire history of NCIS - does not bode well. 1 Share this post Link to post
Rambler 1,425 March 14, 2019 One thing that has been made very clear to me from watching these types of shows is to always step very carefully when taking a stroll through the woods because if you should happen to trip and fall, you will invariably land face to face with a rotting corpse. 6 7 Share this post Link to post
LuvMyShows 8,803 March 14, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 1:47 PM, HurricaneVal said: But I'm not happy with the treatment of Tim. He's the published author, but the way Ellie and Torres were getting after him about grammar and spelling was just bullying. I have a different slant on the characterizations. Nothing about the way Torres has been written indicates that he would be the type to even notice typos. And Tim as written seems like the type who would absolutely appreciate knowing about typos and be mortified if there was one. But I don't think it was bullying how they pointed it out. 20 hours ago, secnarf said: Saw a re-run tonight in which Jimmy excitedly mentioned that his dad "is a research ophthalmologist" and would often pontificate about the eye at the dinner table. Seems his father got a bit of retconning to fit in with the episode's storyline (though I had totally forgot about this too, until seeing the rerun tonight). I knew when I saw the episode, that there had to be some retconning. Also, whether or not Brina's father had cared to proactively ask about Jimmy's life, there is no way he would not have known about Jimmy's father having died when Jimmy was 10. It's definitely something Brina would have mentioned to her parents, especially given that there was a wedding where Jimmy's father would have not been there. 3 Share this post Link to post
ForReal 1,304 March 16, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 2:12 PM, LuvMyShows said: I have a different slant on the characterizations. Nothing about the way Torres has been written indicates that he would be the type to even notice typos. And Tim as written seems like the type who would absolutely appreciate knowing about typos and be mortified if there was one. But I don't think it was bullying how they pointed it out. Totally agree with this. It was out of character for McGee to act like misspelling a word was no big deal, and to have to have those two explain the difference between the words? Come on! 3 Share this post Link to post
Sake614 16,514 March 16, 2019 I always had the impression that Brina’s Father looked down his nose at Jimmy and didn’t really care about him one way or the other. He never thought jimmy was good enough for brina so I can totally see him not remembering (or caring to remember) that he knew about jimmy’s father. 2 Share this post Link to post
Clanstarling 24,056 March 17, 2019 I've always liked Jimmy, and so I enjoyed his story. Whether or not his family background was retconned (likely), it was an effective story, imo. I enjoyed the banter about words - I've experienced just that sort of banter and going down the rabbit trail of word definitions in my life as a writer. A writer needs some pretty thick skin - especially when they've been published, as McGee has. I think Elly is absolutely the type who'd go down that path, and Torres was just looking for a way to tease him. Edited March 17, 2019 by Clanstarling 1 Share this post Link to post
scorpio1031 29,006 March 17, 2019 On 3/16/2019 at 7:04 AM, Sake614 said: I always had the impression that Brina’s Father looked down his nose at Jimmy and didn’t really care about him one way or the other. He never thought jimmy was good enough for brina so I can totally see him not remembering (or caring to remember) that he knew about jimmy’s father. That would also explain why he didn't recognize the name DiNizzo when he met Senior after having met Tony. If I remember right, he didn't consider NCIS to be very important. 1 Share this post Link to post
Kelda Feegle 1,848 March 18, 2019 On 3/15/2019 at 3:53 AM, Rambler said: One thing that has been made very clear to me from watching these types of shows is to always step very carefully when taking a stroll through the woods because if you should happen to trip and fall, you will invariably land face to face with a rotting corpse. I'm amazed that I have been in Central Park NYC a couple of times and never been murdered or attacked. Share this post Link to post
Driad 8,885 March 18, 2019 56 minutes ago, Kelda Feegle said: I'm amazed that I have been in Central Park NYC a couple of times and never been murdered or attacked. Just be extra careful if you go to Rock Creek Park in DC. Or at least look out for dead petty officers. 2 4 Share this post Link to post
scorpio1031 29,006 March 19, 2019 On 3/17/2019 at 9:04 PM, Driad said: Just be extra careful if you go to Rock Creek Park in DC. Or at least look out for dead petty officers. How many bodies have they found there? Worse than Cabot Cove:) And don’t go swimming. 2 1 Share this post Link to post
wknt3 7,416 March 19, 2019 On 3/17/2019 at 11:06 PM, Kelda Feegle said: I'm amazed that I have been in Central Park NYC a couple of times and never been murdered or attacked. From what I've learned from TV, there is no random crime in Central Park - bodies are always moved there or it is staged. So don't commit infidelity, get involved with the mafia, etc. and you should be safe. 1 Share this post Link to post
Welcome5431 42 March 22, 2019 the key line delivered by Gibbs sums up this episode: "no dice" 2 Share this post Link to post
Runningwild 6,873 March 25, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 2:30 AM, scorpio1031 said: How many bodies have they found there? Worse than Cabot Cove:) And don’t go swimming. And don’t hang out with the Harts. 2 Share this post Link to post
BluBarbi98 336 April 2, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 8:14 PM, secnarf said: Saw a re-run tonight in which Jimmy excitedly mentioned that his dad "is a research ophthalmologist" and would often pontificate about the eye at the dinner table. Seems his father got a bit of retconning to fit in with the episode's storyline (though I had totally forgot about this too, until seeing the rerun tonight). I just finished this episode and my eyebrows immediately rose when Palmer gave that "bad Dad" story. Wasn't he gushing about his parents when he witnessed a crime and was a target? He told Gibbs that he calls them often with news of his days etc. I came here looking for someone else to remember the original parent story or clarify if he has a step-father. This just proves that Gibbs has to be Dad to them all. Ducky, I understand, but now Gibbs is one of his father figures too? That wouldn't be so bad if they didn't have to give him a "bad Dad" in the process. Share this post Link to post
scorpio1031 29,006 May 12, 2019 On 4/2/2019 at 4:58 PM, BluBarbi98 said: I just finished this episode and my eyebrows immediately rose when Palmer gave that "bad Dad" story. Wasn't he gushing about his parents when he witnessed a crime and was a target? He told Gibbs that he calls them often with news of his days etc. I came here looking for someone else to remember the original parent story or clarify if he has a step-father. This just proves that Gibbs has to be Dad to them all. Ducky, I understand, but now Gibbs is one of his father figures too? That wouldn't be so bad if they didn't have to give him a "bad Dad" in the process. Totally forgot about that scene!! It was an original parent - never a step father. Dad was supposed to be a research opthamologist who would pontificate on the wonders of the spherical orb every night at dinner. Maybe a boring father, but not a bad dad:) 1 Share this post Link to post