S09.E04: Bahama Drama

[Keywestclubkid]

8 minutes ago, Giselle said:

Got it. So everyone get a pass no matter what they do to other people if a loved one of theirs has died. 

Bullshit. Wrong is wrong. The bereaved can be called on it tactfully. But if they bury their head in the sand, won't accept responsibility, blame others, or continue to do wrong they don't get a pass on being an asshole because someone died. 

Lisa tried to hide her involvement. She's getting called out for it for speaking out of both sides of her mouth. Apparently Ken told her to keep it quiet and she ignored his council. She could have fessed up got it over and done with but she starts throwing others under the bus. That's not going to sit well with people regardless if she lost a loved one.

As far as the women's response of sympathy. They have to take their cues off of Lisa. I'm sure they gave her plenty of sympathy, had concern for her and admired that she went back to her life so quickly after the death. They knew she would still be hurting and they can have sympathy for her while also not liking how she was handling an issue. 

Lisa talks out of both sides of her mouth. She says she forgives you but then she punishes you. She says "thank you" then chides you. She says she doesn't want to talk about something but from past experience you don't know if it's true or not.

We don't know what was  Lisa's response to each offer of condolence. We don't know how often they  contacted her in some way. We don't know if they were respecting her sensed or directed wishes to give her space. If she keeps going on and on about "stiff upper lip", "I don't want to talk about it" they may have taken her at her word and allowed her the space she seemed to ask for.

I'm so sorry you lost your brother. 

ALL of this ..... If this was any other housewife people would be screaming for a pound of flesh and for them to be held accountable for their actions but since its Lisa everyone is well they should just get over it or what she did wasn't that bad etc etc .... I wish i could give this post a thousand likes

Edited March 6, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[bichonblitz]

15 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Can we all agree that Denise so far is just pretty much all of us lost in a sea of what the fuck is going on and why the fuck are you dressing to the 9s to have a cocktail or eat breakfast in someones room? I am really surprised how likeable/relatable she is so far

She had me with her comment about wanting fries and a grilled cheese! My kind of girl. 

[Giselle]

45 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

Another annoyingly bland thing about Teddi: Her face doesn't move.

21 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

But her man-hands move all over the place, all the time!!  (okay - that was mean!)  😉

At least she's not covered in pink, grinning like two faced crocodile while holding a knife behind her back.

[BodhiGurl]

I'm team Dorit is an arsehole and should have NEVER had the dogs in the first place, AND team LVP is shady. I do think she used Teddi and Dorit's friction as a way to get at Dorit. Maybe it was for storyline, maybe it was just to snipe at Dorit. Regardless, and I don't care if I'm in the minority of feeling this - but initially Teddi probably was fine bringing up the Lucygate on camera because at the time she still was bitter about Dorit's ridiculousness from last season (and understandable she would still be bitter). But then she started to catch on to what was happening and felt used by LVP. So in the moment - she's angry at LVP. Yes - she could have not mentioned Lucy on camera but again - she wasn't friendly with Dorit at the time. Add on that LVP started up with essentially it's all Teddi's fault and Teddi has been gossiping about it - quite frankly I'd be a little ragey myself realizing I was a pawn in the game AND I just got thrown under the bus. I do think Dorit is a grifter, along with her creepy husband. But I still think LVP was manipulating behind the scenes and the other gals started catching on to what was going on and are tired of it perhaps?!? Now Rinna - she's just running with it, she's another ridiculous arsehole who doesn't care who the subject of negative attention is, as long as it isn't her. Ultimately LVP made a very poor decision placing not one, but two dogs, into the Kemsely household. At the very least, she cosigned on them having small dogs around small children. Doesn't make me confident that LVPdogs is performing proper vetting. LVPdogs was wrong for putting those dogs in that household AND Dorit was wrong not reaching out to LVP herself OR the shelter regarding Lucy. I find it believable that LVP could have started this gossipy mess, and has tried to throw others under the bus over it. Perhaps the Johns of LVPdogs are now trying to back peddle to save their reputation and the rescue's reputation. Or maybe they were the source of the gossip without LVPs input but LVP certainly doesn't help matters by trying to pin this stupidity on Teddi. Anywho - if I were sitting at that table of BH RHs, I'd be chilling with Denise and Camille and asking the same questions they are.

I would gladly take a season of far less drama and more travel/home/party/shopping porn on my RH shows. If that can only happen on BH without LVP - so be it. I've never loathed LVP the way I can't stand OC Vicki or NY Carole (at least the last season CR was on NY), Or NJ's Siggy (OMG Siggy. Ugh)  but honestly I'm ok if she disappears for a while. Or if we simply don't see her with the other women. I can't imagine her not coming back, but who knows... I can't watch Vanderpump Rules because I find the cast ridiculous, and LVP isn't enough of a draw on that show for me so... meh... I'm just glad NY is returning, I think tonight - right? LOL... I do hope lucygate/LVPgate quiets down once she removes herself from the group. I don't think I can take a full season of the women who are having issues with LVP, speaking about her the whole season, especially if she's not with them for most of the filming.

[TexasGal]

Re Kyle's Rolex - when she was talking to Mauricio to (allegedly) get his ok to buy it, they flashed up a pic of (presumably) her arm with 2 different watches on it.  So she had seen 2, tried them both on and was deciding between them but (allegedly) wanted to get his sign off before buying.  So, the store probably measured her wrist when she tried it on and delivered the watch already sized.  Agree with the poster who noted that it makes more sense to deliver something that pricey in person than just leave it in a room.

I inserted the allegedlys because I don't think she needed his permission to buy them.  It was probably just a way to introduce the purchase into the story.

[Otherkate]

2 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

I'm team Dorit is an arsehole and should have NEVER had the dogs in the first place, AND team LVP is shady. I do think she used Teddi and Dorit's friction as a way to get at Dorit. 

I agree with you. I thought Erika was right about LVP seasons ago and I still think LVP is shady and smart enough to go about getting revenge on someone via a much quieter path. Thing is, I don't really care. Mostly I wish the other women were smarter. 

[Mindthinkr]

1 hour ago, TV Diva Queen said:

I agree with the personal delivery. However when she opened it at the table, it wasn’t sized. Then in the bus going to the airport with Lisa, Kyle had the watch on and it fit, this was the same night. Kyle went out and pretty much went to her room, packed and left. When did the watch get sized??

The watch getting sized might be the reason that she couldn’t take it with her at the time of purchase. When she tried it on at the table she was having difficulty getting the clasp to hold it on. I think that it was why it looked as though it still didn’t fit. If I bought a multi-K ($$-$) watch darn right I’m going to get the seller to fit it to me. 

[walnutqueen]

The only things I found enjoyable about this episode were Camille speaking her truth about the dog situation, and that adorable baby flamingo.

The pitchforks and torches coven will get exactly what they deserve - despicable Dorit.  If this is the hill they choose to die on, so be it.

I want to rent a billboard on an LA freeway with pictures of Lucy & Dorit that says "Have you seen this rescue dog?  This grifter has - when she dumped it at an OC shelter."

[BodhiGurl]

29 minutes ago, Otherkate said:

Dorit was so uncomfortable with Camille asking very rational questions on the boat and Rinna and Erika were annoyed that someone wasn't getting with the program. It seemed a lot more transparent to me than usual. Dorit does this every season and it started with pantygate -- she does something shitty and somehow manages to make it all about how SHE'S the victim and the other woman is dragging HER through the mud. I guess Erika forgot about being put in that position by Dorit and I guess Teddi forgot all about it happening to her too. Dorit is a much better grifter than she is a swim suit designer. 

This is really the core of it for me. They can show all the texts they want. Dorit is a shitty person who does shitty things and her latest involves mistreatment of an animal and I'm not having it. So they got TWO dogs and had problems with BOTH of them? Maybe teach your kids and husband how to interact with young animals you grifting loser. 

Anyway, I am fine with LVP, John #1, John #2, and whoever the hell else wants to jump on this bandwagon yelling about what Dorit did from the rooftops or sniping her quietly from the side. Bring out all the texts, give us ALL the details. As another mouthy housewife once said

I'd be fine with it too - IF LVP (and/or the Johns) wasn't trying to throw Teddi, and to a lesser extent, Kyle, under the bus. If she was up front and said she was disappointed, whatever - I'd be fine. If they didn't bring Lucy out with the "do you know who this is" shenanigans, while trying to act like there were no shenanigans, I'd be fine with it too. Dorit is an arsehole and deserves to be dragged for what she did - just not at the expense of other HW's. Erika and Rinna can GTFO with their stupidity as well. I guess I'm missing what LVP did to them, but those two are a whole other ball of arseholery outside of lucygate.

ETA - I take it back, a bit, about Erika - I get what beef she has with LVP but it's petty. And Erika drives me nuts so I tend to have low tolerance for her stuff. LOL

Edited March 6, 2019 by BodhiGurl

[Giselle]

7 hours ago, ivygirl said:

What was Dorit wearing at that dinner?

Why is it ok for Dorit to play dumb, and Rinna to stoke the fires on this conversation that she’s not even a part of (and attempting to stage a coup to be HBIC), but LVP is the one “playing dumb” and acting as a master manipulator?

Why are we subjected to shot after shot of Beverly Beach crap? 

Why didn't I fast forward through 90% of this?

The same reason were seeing a fucking dog shop, restaurants, a real estate office, "Erika Jayne", and QVC.

It's all about promotion.

[BodhiGurl]

3 minutes ago, Otherkate said:

I agree with you. I thought Erika was right about LVP seasons ago and I still think LVP is shady and smart enough to go about getting revenge on someone via a much quieter path. Thing is, I don't really care. Mostly I wish the other women were smarter. 

I agree about the Erika thing as well 😉 I also wish they were smarter, but I've been sucked in to stuff myself before you realize you are just being used. Narcissists have a charm about them that you sometimes don't realize you've totally been manipulated until the shat hits the wall. Been there, done that - but won't do it anymore. I'm guessing Teddi won't either.

[Giselle]

12 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

I'd be fine with it too - IF LVP (and/or the Johns) wasn't trying to throw Teddi, and to a lesser extent, Kyle, under the bus. If she was up front and said she was disappointed, whatever - I'd be fine. If they didn't bring Lucy out with the "do you know who this is" shenanigans, while trying to act like there were no shenanigans, I'd be fine with it too. Dorit is an arsehole and deserves to be dragged for what she did - just not at the expense of other HW's. Erika and Rinna can GTFO with their stupidity as well. I guess I'm missing what LVP did to them, but those two are a whole other ball of arseholery outside of lucygate.

Agreed.

LVP used Rinna in the Munchausens accusations against Yoyo she's been burned the same way Teddi is being burned. Erica has never warmed up to Lisa because of what she observed of LVP's games in past seasons and now she's on Erica's shit list because she publicly questioned Erica's expression of condolence & sympathy.

Edited March 6, 2019 by Giselle

[mwell345]

16 minutes ago, walnutqueen said:

The only things I found enjoyable about this episode were Camille speaking her truth about the dog situation, and that adorable baby flamingo.

The pitchforks and torches coven will get exactly what they deserve - despicable Dorit.  If this is the hill they choose to die on, so be it.

I want to rent a billboard on an LA freeway with pictures of Lucy & Dorit that says "Have you seen this rescue dog?  This grifter has - when she dumped it at an OC shelter."

And its not like they don't know how Dorit is - she tried to get between Kyle and LVP all last season, she claimed Teddy was "torturing" her (I guess Teddy forgot about how she was stood up).  And she was the one that told EJ that Kyle was upset with EJ's leaving Teddy's beach house.  And she always twisted the story to make herself look like the victim.

I really hope LVP skips the reunion.  I would love to see the coven sitting about looking like  idiots.  (Oh wait, we've seen that already,  But I want to see it again.)

Edited March 6, 2019 by mwell345

[njbchlover]

31 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

She had me with her comment about wanting fries and a grilled cheese! My kind of girl. 

I just hope that Denise remains the same, and doesn't try to be all fancy and change herself to be with the other ladies.  She is a breath of fresh air.

I also loved her comment about the fries and grilled cheese (a woman after my own heart, LOL!), but what I loved even more was that she didn't make a big deal of it.  Denise was gracious about the food presented, unlike the Orange County ladies, who make gagging noises and "ewwwww" at anything outside of their unsophisticated palates.

[Lady of nod]

8 hours ago, film noire said:

Instead,  Kyle shows more passion for her fucking watch than an animal being put in harm's way, Erika is too busy to notice Dorit's decadence because The Petty Mess is jabbering at Teddi like L'il Miss Mellencamp is the last survivor on planet Earth - the only one able to provide the crucial Oral History of reality tv   ("...in the beginning was LVP, and Bravo saw that she was good for the franchise...")  - and Lisa Rinna is so full of a vast, pulsating hate for Vanderpump,  she's literally sweating rage hormones and would happily bite the head off a puppy if given half a chance (I don't eat bread but I sure do like me some bichon frisee!) 

Only Camille gives a fuck, and keeps asking the question none of these -- what, cows? (but I love cows!) Pig-people? (but I love pigs!) Donkey tits? (I love donkeys! And tits! I have them! Tits, not donkeys!) -- the question none of these festering, sick-souled humans are willing to grapple with: why did Dorit not return the dog? Bravo to  Ms The Morally Corrupt Faye Resnick (and boy, did Camille ever get that right) for not backing down.

I. Die. A thousand likes!

[Booger666]

12 hours ago, charming said:

The issue for me is none of these women are innocent in "manipulation" or getting other people to do their dirty work. If you're going to rage about how LVP gets people to do her dirty work you better have clean hands yourself.

Great post, @charming.  I’d even go further and say it wasn’t manipulation but gossip. I believe they all gossiped about Dorit / LVP / Lucy and now Lisa is trying to make it seem like there was malevolent intent with the gossip.  Maybe they are all a bunch of gossipy women and that’s the extent of it?  Talk about making a mountain out of holemill.

Edited March 6, 2019 by Booger666

[Lady of nod]

4 hours ago, Chalby said:

PK and Dorit should be publicized as a family who is permanently banned from adopting any animals. They are too self-absorbed to care about anything that exists beyond their noses. Everyone needs to talk about them until they publicly acknowledge they were not equipped to adopt an animal and then apologize to all involved.

Yes . Obviously they don't know or care how to raise a dog. Or 2 dogs, didn't they return another one? That should tell them that they're doing something wrong. If the puppies had seriously bit the kids, you can bet we'd have pics. Pjs photo looks more like a scratch, but whatever - he probably deserved it. Puppies play, and if you're getting down and sticking your face in their face they will playfully swipe at you and maybe try to chew in  a non aggresive way. My 7 year old still likes to chew my fingers when I'm being silly and get him wound up. Of course if you have babies this would be a concern. So why can't she just own it and move on.

[KungFuBunny]

13 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

LVPs shoulders were definitely slumped as she walked over to Doritos bed. Resignation? 

Osteoporosis?

[Pondlass1]

Someone should tell Production that if they're going to manufacture drama they need to come up with something more entertaining than puppygate and text printouts.  

Everyone is talking in riddles (and trying for Emmys).  Only Camille asked the obvious question.  The darting stink eyes at the dinner table was pretty funny, tho.  Great camera work, guys.  

But find a more interesting tagline.  (I guess they can't run with Dorit and PK's messy finances ?)

[KungFuBunny]

12 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

I hope Rinna had panties on when she spread her legs in the club/flashed (?). We don’t need another pantygate. 

I think that pose should be renamed the "Mention It All" move

[Giselle]

1 hour ago, Castina said:

I would much prefer a season like that as well.  Which begs the question why any of them entertained this storyline instead of doing just that.  Bottom line is if it doesn't interest you then you don't play along.  Like Camille said they all do shit to piss others off, just move on.  Fire needs air to burn, don't give it air and it doesn't burn. 

Instead of drinking and having fun with have Lisa R, Erika, Dorit pushing it forward and cheering Teddi on.  Although to be fair to Lisa R I think this is actually her idea of fun.  The other two have their own motives and/or grudges.   

Lisa fanned the flames by not shutting it down at the dog shop. If she's the "Queen" of the show as some here believe and has that much pull she could have broken the 4th wall and stopped it. If she's just a cast member like the others, as I believe, she could have still broken the 4th wall and stopped it.

I remember RHoOC Tamra's awful Mexican stripper bachelorette party. One of the strippers was trying to go after Heather and she was having none of it. We found out after the season she went behind a cameraman said no fucking way and threaten a lawsuit and lawyer if they didn't stop him. She continued to participate by watching the fiasco with wide eyes but they left her the hell alone. She broke the 4th wall enough that they stopped it and had to edit.

Lisa could have shut down the on camera expose of dipshit Dorito if she wanted even after Teddi piped in. "Stop filming! This isn't going to to happen! I'm not risking the shop! Let it be and let it die!" She could have put up enough of a stink, to change the editing to avoid the 4th wall being exposed. They could have continued showing the girls playing with the other dogs and the women cackling about something other than that damn dog and dipshit Dorito.

[Giselle]

3 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

I think that pose should be renamed the "Mention It All" move

Lisa and Teddi could do it in the nude with the text pages covering their naughty bits. 

[ivygirl]

1 hour ago, Giselle said:

The same reason were seeing a fucking dog shop, restaurants, a real estate office, "Erika Jayne", and QVC.

It's all about promotion.

I know. Just venting. At least the rest are real businesses. I don’t trust That there’s much “there there” with BB.

Edited March 6, 2019 by ivygirl

[Mindthinkr]

Teddi has posted 90 times in the past hour according to her Twitter account. The above was one of them. 

[Giselle]

34 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

Someone should tell Production that if they're going to manufacture drama they need to come up with something more entertaining than puppygate and text printouts.  

Everyone is talking in riddles (and trying for Emmys).  Only Camille asked the obvious question.  The darting stink eyes at the dinner table was pretty funny, tho.  Great camera work, guys.  

But find a more interesting tagline.  (I guess they can't run with Dorit and PK's messy finances ?)

Dorito's new tag lines...

"I'm in the dog house, and the poor house."

Or...

"Contracts schmontracts, LA or Vegas, I've got dogshit on my shoe and I owe everybody."

[Castina]

The texts Teddi is posting make it seem like Ken did NOT want this discussed.  At this stage it seems to me that Lisa and John may have discussed it but Ken was adamant it not be done so Lisa backed off.  Reading those texts it seems that there was disagreement so why didn't Teddi talk directly to Lisa instead of John to be sure and clear things up?  Why are we only seeing texts showing she and John plotted?  Things that make me go hmmmm....

[BodhiGurl]

5 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

Teddi has posted 90 times in the past hour according to her Twitter account. The above was one of them. 

This pretty much supports what Teddi was saying - what else would JB being saying "YES" to... Maybe the following IDK is kind of like an "I don't know what to think about all these shenanigans" lol... I think the "No idea, I'll find out..." part is in regards to whether or not LVP was going to be at VPDs... doesn't reflect well on LVP regardless - I can't imagine JB making it up that Lisa wanted Teddi to know... And my pat disclaimer - yes, Dorit is a shady arsehole, who should have called VPD or LVP herself, regarding Lucy.  I'm speaking specifically to LVP's supposed behind-the-scenes shenanigans...

[howivesforever]

4 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

Teddi has posted 90 times in the past hour according to her Twitter account. The above was one of them. 

I just don’t see what this is suppose to prove. Especially since it looks like some text were deleted. I still can’t and won’t get past that  Dorit did a shitty thing and bravo to anyone that exposes her.

Teddi needs to get one of her coaches to coach her on taking accountability as a grown ass woman that was fine with outing Dorit for the shitty person she is on camera! 

[BodhiGurl]

2 minutes ago, howivesforever said:

I just don’t see what this is suppose to prove. Especially since it looks like some text were deleted. I still can’t and won’t get past that  Dorit did a shitty thing and bravo to anyone that exposes her.

Teddi needs to get one of her coaches to coach her on taking accountability as a grown ass woman that was fine with outing Dorit for the shitty person she is on camera! 

as far as I'm aware you can't delete texts once sent. I just tried on my iphone - nada. And the screenshot doesn't look like it was manipulated in photoshop (or similar program). Looks more like JB texts in brief snippets. I've done that before and had similar texts sent to me. Like having an additional thought before the person responds...

[Castina]

1 minute ago, BodhiGurl said:

This pretty much supports what Teddi was saying - what else would JB being saying "YES" to... Maybe the following IDK is kind of like an "I don't know what to think about all these shenanigans" lol... I think the "No idea, I'll find out..." part is in regards to whether or not LVP was going to be at VPDs... doesn't reflect well on LVP regardless - I can't imagine JB making it up that Lisa wanted Teddi to know... And my pat disclaimer - yes, Dorit is a shady arsehole, who should have called VPD or LVP herself, regarding Lucy.  I'm speaking specifically to LVP's supposed behind-the-scenes shenanigans...

John has said the YES was in response to something she messaged just before that isn't shown on her screencap and that the IDK was in answer to the question "does Lisa know".   It's plausible because they were obviously talking above what we see.  

Again I don't know why Teddi didn't just speak directly to Lisa and ask her?

[918lux]

2 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

as far as I'm aware you can't delete texts once sent. I just tried on my iphone - nada. And the screenshot doesn't look like it was manipulated in photoshop (or similar program). Looks more like JB texts in brief snippets. I've done that before and had similar texts sent to me. Like having an additional thought before the person responds...

You can on an iPhone.  Just hold down on one text bubble, click "more" and then you can pick and choose which texts to delete.

[Keywestclubkid]

8 minutes ago, Castina said:

John has said the YES was in response to something she messaged just before that isn't shown on her screencap and that the IDK was in answer to the question "does Lisa know".   It's plausible because they were obviously talking above what we see.  

Again I don't know why Teddi didn't just speak directly to Lisa and ask her?

why should she think that John was lying about Lisa knowing? Shes taking john at his word the man who works with Lisa daily that is with her all the time...... when someone I know knows one of my friends well i don't question when they tell me something that the friend told them why would teddi? it makes no sense. normal adults that have working relationships with people normally don't have to double check these things... why would this man who is working for/with Lisa lie about Lisa knowing? Now he's saying she altered messages? either is is trying to cover his own ass for lying or hes trying to protect Lisa ....

Edited March 6, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[BodhiGurl]

1 minute ago, Castina said:

John has said the YES was in response to something she messaged just before that isn't shown on her screencap and that the IDK was in answer to the question "does Lisa know".   It's plausible because they were obviously talking above what we see.  

Again I don't know why Teddi didn't just speak directly to Lisa and ask her?

I think John is trying to clean up the mess he is involved in 😉 Who knows though. If Teddi suspects LVP is lying basically - then she'll not believe her if she goes to her and asks. I agree with others who've expressed that Lisa could have broken the "4th wall" and shut that stuff down when whatever John it was brought the dog out. LVP could have also skipped gossiping about Teddi gossiping and it would likely not have elevated as it has. And it all goes back full circle to LVP should have told Dorit she was disappointed, whatever, had it out - and then we'd have zero dog-gate. And Dorit is still a shady arsehole who should have never had the dog to begin with and should have returned the dog to VPDs... 😉

[howivesforever]

4 minutes ago, BodhiGurl said:

as far as I'm aware you can't delete texts once sent. I just tried on my iphone - nada. And the screenshot doesn't look like it was manipulated in photoshop (or similar program). Looks more like JB texts in brief snippets. I've done that before and had similar texts sent to me. Like having an additional thought before the person responds...

Of course you can delete text once sent. You just hold the text down and the circles pop up on the side and you check which text you want to delete! Voila text deleted.

[BodhiGurl]

5 minutes ago, 918lux said:

You can on an iPhone.  Just hold down on one text bubble, click "more" and then you can pick and choose which texts to delete.

Oh wow - I had no idea! Just tried it again, LMAO - now I see it. Same could be said with whatever Ken and LVP have printed out in gianormous screen shots of the texts in the upcoming episode. That's crazy that you can delete out the other person's messages... interesting...

ETA - however, I don't think JB has come out and said that the texts were manipulated to look like he said Yes to Lisa wanting Teddi to know... the plot thickens... LOL

Where is Megan King Edmonds when you need her??? LOL

Edited March 6, 2019 by BodhiGurl
add'l thought

[walnutqueen]

18 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

Teddi has posted 90 times in the past hour according to her Twitter account.

90 tweets in one hour?  The "lady" doth protest too much, methinks.

[filmfan2480]

I often wonder about the Kyle/Camille friendship/dynamic.  I find it somewhat fascinating and I don't think it is touched upon much, here.

Sure, they had a rough season one.  But they sorted out their issues and have been good ever since. 

They've supported each other.  Camille has gone to many Kyle functions and parties over the years.  There seems to be warmth there.  We've seen them together on WWHL.  They 'like' and comment on many of each other's social media posts.  When asked about her, Kyle says that they are good friends now and their issues were ancient history and it seems genuine.  Camille shares similar sentiments.  I've seen photos of Kyle, LVDP and Camille together at places.  I've seen photos of Kyle, Faye and Camille together at places (Kyle and Camille confirm that one-time enemies Camille and Faye are now good friends, as well.  Faye and Camille share lovely responses to each other on social media).  I think these women share a bond and a sisterhood (which Kyle often speaks about, too).

Having said all of that, there's also something mildly chilly, there.  Though, we see Kyle and Camille at many of the same events and they appear friendly and there are even shots of just the two of them engaged in conversation (whether it be deep thoughts or laughter) ... you rarely see Kyle exclusively with Camille.  

Maybe it's the construct of the television show -- that main cast members should mostly or only converse with other main cast members and not "friends of" so much -- Kyle is mostly shown with LVDP or Teddi or Rinna or Erika or Dorit or a combination of those ... and Kyle is almost never "just with" Camille (even when the group is together).

Add to this, Camille had Kyle be one of her bridesmaids, for goodness sakes!  That was such a nice thing for her to do.  I remember Kyle was VERY emotional and happy for Camille last season when she showed her the engagement ring -- it was lovely to see.  I'm sure they are good friends.  I don't doubt that.  And you'd think only the BEST of friends would ask and/or accept being a part of a wedding party.  

But again, I just don't see the evidence 'on film' of such an utter close bond.  I just find it interesting; the little things one picks up on while watching over the years. 

And because it seems - early on - that Camille is a bit more team LVDP at this point of the season and not all chummy with Kyle on the Dorit/LVDP topic ... I wonder how the rest of the season plays out for Camille/Kyle leading up to the wedding and thereafter to now. 

Anyone else ever ponder their friendship?

Edited March 6, 2019 by filmfan2480

[Mindthinkr]

1 minute ago, walnutqueen said:

90 tweets in one hour?  The "lady" doth protest too much, methinks.

Great minds think alike. That’s a lot of tweeting. 

[Castina]

10 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

why should she think that John was lying about Lisa knowing? Shes taking john at his word the man who works with Lisa daily that is with her all the time...... when someone I know knows one of my friends well i don't question when they tell me something that the friend told them why would teddi? it makes no sense. normal adults that have working relationships with people normally don't have to double check these things... why would this man who is working for/with Lisa lie about Lisa knowing? Now he's saying she altered messages? either is is trying to cover his own ass for lying or hes trying to protect Lisa ....

Because she asks more than once if Lisa knows about this and John tells her he is getting mixed messages.  Teddi can do Teddi but if that were me and I was about to put my plot (and ass) on camera I'd make sure.  And then he could show us texts between her and Lisa instead!

[Keywestclubkid]

Here is teddi's twitter im not getting her protesting to much she is answering questions and posted her blog .what is she supposed to do let people lie and just take it? .. i know people who tweet double that in a hour

https://twitter.com/TeddiMellencamp?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

Edited March 6, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[walnutqueen]

2 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

Great minds think alike. That’s a lot of tweeting. 

And fools seldom differ!  *wink, wink, nudge, nudge*

[Reality police]

13 minutes ago, 918lux said:

You can on an iPhone.  Just hold down on one text bubble, click "more" and then you can pick and choose which texts to delete.

You taught me something new. I never knew i could do that. Puts a whole new perspective on things!

[TattleTeeny]

Reading those texts make me think Teddi should learn to communicate like a grownup.

[Mr. Miner]

9 minutes ago, walnutqueen said:

90 tweets in one hour?  The "lady" doth protest too much, methinks. 

IDK? If I'm not guilty you'll find me shouting it out from the mountain top.

[BodhiGurl]

6 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Here is teddi's twitter im not getting her protesting to much she is answering questions and posted her blog ... i know people who tweet double that in a hour

https://twitter.com/TeddiMellencamp?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

I'm not seeing anywhere near a ridiculous amount of tweets - am I missing something? It seems as though she was "live tweeting" during the show as well as answering some people's tweets?!?

[Keywestclubkid]

1 minute ago, BodhiGurl said:

I'm not seeing anywhere near a ridiculous amount of tweets - am I missing something? It seems as though she was "live tweeting" during the show as well as answering some people's tweets?!?

Right that's what i was thinking. I was expecting this long list of rambling tweets when it was just live tweeting with the show and a link to her blog ......

[Giselle]

58 minutes ago, Castina said:

The texts Teddi is posting make it seem like Ken did NOT want this discussed.  At this stage it seems to me that Lisa and John may have discussed it but Ken was adamant it not be done so Lisa backed off.  Reading those texts it seems that there was disagreement so why didn't Teddi talk directly to Lisa instead of John to be sure and clear things up?  Why are we only seeing texts showing she and John plotted?  Things that make me go hmmmm....

And with that same hand... so why didn't Lisa talk directly to Teddi instead of John to be sure and clear things up?

Why didn't Lisa call Teddi that morning before the shoot and tell her to drop it?

We're only seeing Teddi and John's texts because Lisa's texts to John will implicate her.

Edited: We're only seeing Teddi's texts between herself and John. 

Edited March 6, 2019 by Giselle
I fucking felt like editing.

[88 keys]

1 hour ago, Giselle said:

Agreed.

LVP used Rinna in the Munchausens accusations against Yoyo she's been burned the same way Teddi is being burned. Erica has never warmed up to Lisa because of what she observed of LVP's games in past seasons and now she's on Erica's shit list because she publicly questioned Erica's expression of condolence & sympathy.

I disagree. It was Rinna who brought a dictionary printout of the word Munchausen to the group to try to show that Yolanda was suffering from a mental illness (eyeroll).  And why? With Yolanda gone Rinna's D-list aspiring model daughters wouldn't have to compete for airtime with Yolanda's daughters, Gigi and Bella Hadid. It was Rinna that wanted Yolanda gone.

[Dance4Life]

Lisa Rinna is so disgusting. Instead of attacking LVP, she needs counseling with her daughter about their eating disorders.

Lipsa knew her daughter had an eating disorder because she got it from her.

Her first season, Lipsa made what I remember zoodles....or, was it eggplant..??  Then Lipsa and her 2 daughters ate off one plate with 3 forks.

Lipsa also told the girls to be models.  It is clear the one with the eating disorder is big boned. She is built like Khloe Kardashian.

Unless, she is a plus size model (which is still skinny by non-model women standard)........she is always going to have to eat very little.

Lipsa made no attempt to get her help.

[Castina]

3 minutes ago, Giselle said:

And with that same hand... so why didn't Lisa talk directly to Teddi instead of John to be sure and clear things up?

Why didn't Lisa call Teddi that morning before the shoot and tell her to drop it?

We're only seeing Teddi and John's texts because Lisa's texts to John will implicate her.

At this point in the story we don't really have proof that Lisa was in on this..  We just have proof that Teddi and John talked about their plot.  Until we reach the point in the story where we see proof Lisa was in on it and not hearsay I can't ask "why didn't Lisa call Teddi?"  But I can, at this stage, ask "why didn't Teddi call Lisa".  It's clear-ish that John and Teddi wanted to do this.  That's all we have at this point.