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Jenelle: Birther Of 3, Mother To None

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On 3/8/2017 at 6:07 PM, StayingAfterSunday said:

Jenelle realizes that once Teen Mom2 is finally cancelled, she loses the generous paycheck (although she'll get some residual pay for the reruns of the show, won't she?).  In any case, Jenelle knows that the guys she's been attracting since Teen Mom first aired have all had financial incentives for seeking her out, and for staying.  Jenelle's deep-seated insecurity speaks for itself as she dumps piles of verbal sludge onto her mother.  This is because Barbara has warned her about all of these guys and their ulterior motives -- the fact that none of them have real jobs, but all of them have criminal backgrounds, etc. etc., and that they are using Jenelle for her MTV money.   In other words, Barbara has stated the obvious, and the truth hurts. If Jenelle has anxiety it is, in part, due to her awareness that the money will run out and so will the boyfriend of the month.

Jenelle is aware of Barbara's foresight and astuteness and this infuriates her.  Barbara's truth telling also inflames David, the same way it did Nathan.  His duplicity is being exposed.  Hence, Jenelle and David have constructed a  campaign to punish Barb in various ways. One way is by trying to take Jace away from Barb.  Another way is by trying to manipulate how much "camera time" Barbara acquires.   And yet another strategy is to spread lies that Barb only wants Jace because of money (according to Jenelle, Barb only wants to maintain custody in order to keep herself in the camera's lens).   To the contrary, it appears that Jenelle is the one trying to get the camera time by creating these dramatic situations.  More drama equals more money, and more money equals one boyfriend who won't run away when the money runs out.  Jenelle can't allow Barbara another "win" in her predictions.  

If Jenelle's desire for custody were sincere, she would not expose her son to the repeated hostility that she perpetuates, particularly since these scenes are broadcast for the world to see, including employees of the court system.   No litigator or judge is going to hand over a child to someone who possesses poor judgment and who evidently behaves in a manner that is detrimental to a child's wellbeing.  

I agree with you that Barb's perceptions are usually spot on, but her problem is that she over-expresses them. She doesn't know when to shut up. Not every single opinion you have needs to be expressed ad naseaum, especially when you know that the person you're telling it to is not going to "hear" you and is not going to take it well. Jenelle is a grown woman, at some point, you just gotta bite your tongue and let her find out for herself, instead of constantly trying to shove your unwanted 2 cents down her throat. Babs ought to know by now that it doesn't change anything and if anything, it just pushes her away. Her intentions are good, but clearly, it's not working. 

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Not to mention how Leah has probably accelerated Ali's physical decline because she refuses to follow the fucking rules regarding the wheel chair and physical activity. Barb has made sure that Ja

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Kaiser seems much more comfortable with David than with his own mother. Look at him calling for David when David goes off to see his pee-can tree. The poor little thing looks scared to be alone with Mother Earth. 

Did everyone see Nathan's shaming picture of a slightly heavy trainer at the gym? That got his membership cancelled. Doesn't he remember that vile Playboy chick that actually got into legal trouble for doing the same thing? The only difference is that the woman that Nathan was shaming was clothed. 

He can be messed up as hell from the war, but "asshole" is forever. 

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Plus the woman wasn't even heavy! She wasn't a stick figure, and was probably heavier than most people in that industry, but she would look healthy and average if you just passed her in Walmart. She was likely 10 pounds overweight; not exactly a my 600 pound life candidate! He is vile scum. Not that I feel sympathy for Jenelle, but the pressure on her to stay skinny while dating him must have been insane!

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HeySandyStrange

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25 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

Not that I feel sympathy for Jenelle, but the pressure on her to stay skinny while dating him must have been insane!

On last season's Dr. Sad Panda finale catch up, Jenelle and Nathan were sitting on the couch sniping at each other. One accused or implied the other still "wanted" them (can't remember whom), and Nathan said something like he didn't want Jenelle because she had gotten "fat" and he didn't find her desirable anymore (or at least implied it). She looked really hurt and if it was anyone else, I'd have felt a little sympathy. Sadly, she showed more genuine emotion about that then she ever showed towards her mother or children because she is the center of her own universe. So I can't really give a fuck.

Nathan can kiss my fat ass, though. Frankly, he is not all that. His body looks like a nasty steroid experiment and he has a kickable, very uncute pumpkin head. His personality is shitty as well and he is pretty stupid. He has nothing to offer and is a slimy, scummy person. He should look in the mirror the next time he calls someone lucky trailer trash because he came from the same damn park.

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ReadMeLattice

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Same interview when he admitted to breaking into Jenelle's house through the window because Kieffer was there (probably touching Jenelle's skin after 2 YEARS NATHAN). Little did we know that breaking into girls' windows would become one of his favorite pastimes. 

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Christina87

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5 hours ago, HeySandyStrange said:

On last season's Dr. Sad Panda finale catch up, Jenelle and Nathan were sitting on the couch sniping at each other. One accused or implied the other still "wanted" them (can't remember whom), and Nathan said something like he didn't want Jenelle because she had gotten "fat" and he didn't find her desirable anymore (or at least implied it). She looked really hurt and if it was anyone else, I'd have felt a little sympathy. Sadly, she showed more genuine emotion about that then she ever showed towards her mother or children because she is the center of her own universe. So I can't really give a fuck.

Nathan can kiss my fat ass, though. Frankly, he is not all that. His body looks like a nasty steroid experiment and he has a kickable, very uncute pumpkin head. His personality is shitty as well and he is pretty stupid. He has nothing to offer and is a slimy, scummy person. He should look in the mirror the next time he calls someone lucky trailer trash because he came from the same damn park.

Oh yeah, I remember that! I felt bad for Jenelle, but then an article came out showing all the times she had fat shamed people on Twitter. Nope! Not feeling sorry for her anymore!

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GreatKazu

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Jenelle in LA- that time she left her infant at home. I hope she didn't delete the comments yet.

It reads "#throwback" photo. It might have been the first time they were in Los Angeles for the awards show where David wasn't allowed in? Wasn't she pregnant during that awards show timeline? With Jenelle, who knows. It might be last week for all I know.

Ewww I hate that Jenelle has stood where I have been. She just taints and mars everything she touches.

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Barb: "I just wanna tell you about the popcorn thing."

Jenelle: " I don't care."

And that right there is why I will not side with Jenelle on anything. No fucks to give about her son. His entire short life has been about his mom not caring at all about him. 

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FairyDusted

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Yup. I'm still team Babs. Loud and annoying sometimes but she is the only stable parent his will ever know. And love. Hell I wanna send her a good wine to enjoy on her rare day off. Even then, I bet she always feels on alert when Jace does go to Janelle's. I know I would have a difficult time relaxing and not be able to put my guard down. Ya never know where and why she might have pick him up.

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Miss Chevious

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Is it just me or does it seem as if Jenelle and UBT don't go out of their way to pickup/dropoff Jace. Barbara is usually seen as the one dropping him off at Jenelle's house and also picking him up there or at another specified location. Looks like she's doing the majority of the driving back and forth. Jenelle just sits there demanding her son, but hardly ever seems to go GET him.

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1 hour ago, Miss Chevious said:

Is it just me or does it seem as if Jenelle and UBT don't go out of their way to pickup/dropoff Jace. Barbara is usually seen as the one dropping him off at Jenelle's house and also picking him up there or at another specified location. Looks like she's doing the majority of the driving back and forth. Jenelle just sits there demanding her son, but hardly ever seems to go GET him.

Seriously, what's up with that? Barb is the one with a full time job, not those two lazy assholes. There's no reason why Jenelle and Dave can't drive the full distance for at least one of the round trips. It's always Barb jumping through hoops and I don't get it. Jace doesn't even want to be at Jenelle's to begin with, so I sure as hell wouldn't put myself out hauling him down there.

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FairyDusted

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I almost can't believe she shouted for everyone not to film or even be nice to her cuz she's a BITCH! 

Makes her look worse and she can't handle that. Too late Sweetheart. Everyone already SEES that Janelle is the Bitch. She really pisses me off.

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1 minute ago, Miss Chevious said:

It's about 36 miles which is about 40-45 minutes driving time, one-way. So round trip would be approximately an hour and a half.

Has Jenelle explained why she chose to build a home 45 minutes from Jace's primary residence? If she "gets him back" not only is she taking him from the only home and mother he's ever known, but his school, friends, and Boy Scouts. Jenelle could live anywhere; it's not like she has a job.

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Miss Chevious

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3 minutes ago, poopchute said:

Has Jenelle explained why she chose to build a home 45 minutes from Jace's primary residence? If she "gets him back" not only is she taking him from the only home and mother he's ever known, but his school, friends, and Boy Scouts. Jenelle could live anywhere; it's not like she has a job.

Bingo! Plus she would be really isolating him. From the looks of that swampland, there's no other nearby neighbors, so it's not like Jace could ride bikes up and down the street with new friends from the neighborhood. There is no neighborhood.

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GreatKazu

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28 minutes ago, poopchute said:

Has Jenelle explained why she chose to build a home 45 minutes from Jace's primary residence? If she "gets him back" not only is she taking him from the only home and mother he's ever known, but his school, friends, and Boy Scouts. Jenelle could live anywhere; it's not like she has a job.

It is UBT's choice. Jenelle is just following him. She put him in charge, just like Amber put Matt in charge. Wherever he chooses to live, that is where they will live. The house is just part of cutting Barb out of their lives. Everything they do is for a reason. 

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CofCinci

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52 minutes ago, poopchute said:

Has Jenelle explained why she chose to build a home 45 minutes from Jace's primary residence? If she "gets him back" not only is she taking him from the only home and mother he's ever known, but his school, friends, and Boy Scouts. Jenelle could live anywhere; it's not like she has a job.

It would be hard for David to bury Jenelle's body in the soil of the region where Barb lives. The ground of the swamp land they purchased will also help her body decompose quicker, erasing the evidence that David murdered her. 

Also, because he is a violent abuser who needs to isolate her from support structures. 

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On 3/12/2017 at 1:39 PM, GreatKazu said:

It reads "#throwback" photo. It might have been the first time they were in Los Angeles for the awards show where David wasn't allowed in? Wasn't she pregnant during that awards show timeline? With Jenelle, who knows. It might be last week for all I know.

Oooooh, I genuinely thought this was a throwback photo to two weeks ago!

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SPLAIN

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6 hours ago, poopchute said:

I wonder if a judge asks about that. And what she would respond.

Hopefully, Barb has a good attorney who will point out the obvious to the court.

I wanted to jump up and down when Barb told Jenelle if she received full custody, she would make sure to limit Jenelle's visitation with Jace. I hope Barb commits to that threat.

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On 3/7/2017 at 5:53 PM, FairyDusted said:

Since Janelle Legally signed over Jace to Barb. Temporary my ass. Barb at this time has all the rights and I think could continue to film. 

What ever happened to Janelle and all her mystery illnesses? They never tied that up.

I was wondering the same thing! She went to a bunch of pricey specialists in New York and was whining about her "pain".  Seemed like a ploy for attention and a way to get David to feel sorry for her. She's pathetic.

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Kail:  She is doing to Javi what she did to Jo and Vee can see right through her.  So now she will have 3 children from 3 men?  She is horrible.  Her kids are cute and Lincoln is adorable.

Janelle is just a waste of time.  She is also 3 for 3.  It's like these two women HAVE to have children with any man they are with.  They need to learn to take care of themselves and be happy within themselves.  Javi sneaking around is just adding ammo for Kail.

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TeenMomAngerMgmt

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29 minutes ago, jumper sage said:

Kail:  She is doing to Javi what she did to Jo and Vee can see right through her.  So now she will have 3 children from 3 men?  She is horrible.  Her kids are cute and Lincoln is adorable.

Janelle is just a waste of time.  She is also 3 for 3.  It's like these two women HAVE to have children with any man they are with.  They need to learn to take care of themselves and be happy within themselves.  Javi sneaking around is just adding ammo for Kail.

It's like a souvenir from each relationship

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Fosca

Fosca

It's gossip time!

http://crazydaysandnights.net/2017/03/todays-blind-items-the-coke-the-bad-and-the-ugly.html

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One group of readers will love this blind and another group will just click the next button. Those of you who are on board, will really love this one. After this MTV reality star made her first stop in LA at a house for the second straight time, I started asking about it. Previously I thought it was just a guy who produced porn. He does produce porn, a lot of in fact. He also is a pimp in the sense he will connect porn stars with people who can afford to date them and then take a little cut. Anyway, one of his biggest money makers is selling drugs to celebrities. Yes, our reality star wanted to do porn. Yes, she was told it would have to be with a partner because she wouldn’t pass talent testing at that time. Yes, he was happy to sell her drugs to last for her visit. So, each time she has returned to town she has made the trek to the dealer. Her order has grown exponentially each time. Not only is she using pretty heavily now after a short break, but her significant other is up to his eyeballs in addiction and he spends her money like water when it comes to buying drugs.

Out of town and with a huge supply of drugs to get them through three days they head to their hotel. One of the people I know at the hotel said all was quiet at check in and even up to four hours after check in. It was then, that things began to go downhill in a hurry. The noise complaints were first. First, from the room next door, then the room beneath them. At this point it was just loud music and a video game being played at a volume of 100. Apparently the couple started watching porn and had the volume up on that to 100.

The front desk called and the noise quieted down. For a few hours. Later that night there was arguing and screaming and furniture being tossed around. That, according to the room’s neighbors who called to complain once again. Oh, a side note. It was 4am.

The “star” has red marks all over her neck and arms and even face when she emerged the next day. Her significant other was there with his arm around her neck. They started looking at some brochures in the lobby and he grabbed her to kiss her. When she tried to pull away he grabbed her even harder and stuck both his hands down her pants from behind. When she resisted again, he grabbed her face and shoved his tongue down her throat. She pushed him away.

Later in the day, when they came back, she was begging him to please forgive her and promised to buy him the boat he wanted if he would just forgive her. That night was more of the same in the room. Noise complaints and partying. The time was close to dawn. For the next 24 hours, no one left the room. There was no noise. Not a peep. My spy was at her house when she heard there had been no noise for almost an entire day and evening and actually said to herself and her roommate that she wouldn’t be surprised if the pair had died of an overdose.

Nope. They emerged the next day and were the happiest they had been since checking in. It was like none of the past few days had happened. Five hours later they were back. Having paid another trip to the dealer, they bought enough to last two weeks. It has been downhill from there. Fights and broken furniture. Pipes and the remnants of plastic wrapped needles. The stench in the room was apparently overpowering and might never be the same. At one point, our “star” had a bloody lip and looked like she had been slapped on that side of the face from the mouth to the eye. They spent thousands of dollars on room service and complained because their employer had only agreed to pick up $500 of the total."

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Given that we've had, what, at least two different stories from Jenelle about why she didn't do the aftershow, this may be the most plausible story yet.

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ghoulina

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I think I hate Kail more as well. I don't know what it is. It's hard to put my finger on it. Did I expect more from her? Do I find her hurtful acts a lot more intentional? I just don't know....but I find her worse to stomach. 

Jenelle is awful, though, no doubt about it. 

As for that blind item. Wow. It's pretty crazy. I don't know how trustworthy that site is. I'm not saying I'd doubt any of what was said, but the way it was written sounded like it was trying to be very OTT. 

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Miss Chevious

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Sounds like whoever wrote that blind item got their info from someone who worked at the hotel. Wow, if even bits of that are true it would be shocking. Hope someone shows this to Barb. She deserves to know the real type of environment Jace would be exposed to if he ever lived there all the time.

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FairyDusted

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I really gotta wonder if this group can even come back after this. Man I feel for all the kids in this situation. I can see where half might want to come back but not the full cast. Who's gonna watch Janelle now? I feel like she could actually get killed and not in the funny haha way. 

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CofCinci

CofCinci

4 hours ago, ghoulina said:

As for that blind item. Wow. It's pretty crazy. I don't know how trustworthy that site is. I'm not saying I'd doubt any of what was said, but the way it was written sounded like it was trying to be very OTT. 

http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/10/crazy-days-and-nights-enty-interview

Sure, 'Enty' has gotten some gossip wrong, but he is considered the gold standard.  I don't believe this blind is about Jenelle as there isn't any references to mother or children, etc.

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SPLAIN

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4 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I think I hate Kail more as well. I don't know what it is. It's hard to put my finger on it. Did I expect more from her? Do I find her hurtful acts a lot more intentional? I just don't know....but I find her worse to stomach. 

Jenelle is awful, though, no doubt about it. 

As for that blind item. Wow. It's pretty crazy. I don't know how trustworthy that site is. I'm not saying I'd doubt any of what was said, but the way it was written sounded like it was trying to be very OTT. 

It reads like something Tyler Baltierra would write.

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Christina

Christina

The original Enty barely submits or writes those blinds anymore, and only posts on the A and B list celebrities. Most of the blinds for these reality stars are sent in by their agents or made up by fans who send them in and a different person writes and posts them. That has also been disclosed, and some of the regular comments left and started their own site for blinds, using the Daily Mail like the non-Enty does. One person outed CDaN after she sent in several blinds related to reality stars, one of which was Janelle.

Janelle was in LA for a week, didn't attend the tapings, and any one of us could have filled in the rest and make it sound believable. 

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Calm81

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13 hours ago, CofCinci said:

http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/10/crazy-days-and-nights-enty-interview

Sure, 'Enty' has gotten some gossip wrong, but he is considered the gold standard.  I don't believe this blind is about Jenelle as there isn't any references to mother or children, etc.

As much as I loathe Jenelle, that blind doesn't sound like it would relate to Her. I know she sucks but the girl has made improvements in her life and that blind sounds like the Jenelle we watched during the keifer era. The Jenelle today is still FAR from being a model citizen but that blind sounds like it would match with Matt and Amber than Jenelle and David. Actually, I don't fuckin' know anymore with these 'stars'. Lol.

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