Jonathan & Fernanda: Buying Boobies & Thangs

[Booger666]

14 minutes ago, Real Eyes said:

Married but according to his Instagram, now separated. 

Can you share where he says this?  I missed it.

[Teri313]

1 hour ago, Real Eyes said:

Married but according to his Instagram, now separated. 

Didn't see that coming! lol Seriously, her need for a mommy, whether hers or his, the whole "I gave up everything for YOU! To come HERE!" Enough already. If you're an adult and you make a decision to move to another country to marry a guy, it's YOUR decision. Suck it up and do it and don't throw tantrums. It's not like he moved her to a broken down cabin in Siberia. The whole crybaby routine over him getting a "fucking drink" with his "fucking friend" was the last straw for me. And the way she lectured him about calling his mother every day, etc., ... while I understand that it might be a cultural thing for her, it's also something a girl her age would still be doing, not a man in his 30s.

[gonecrackers]

Maybe it was her posting a picture of his dick on the internet... by 'accident' of course.

[Real Eyes]

According to him, she wanted to be a model in Chicago and left him. Then, when things weren’t working wanted him to take her back but he wouldn’t. So she moved to Houston. 

But, who knows what the truth is. They could be frauding us, as it is TLC. 

Edited January 1, 2019 by Real Eyes

[Rdh1314]

2 hours ago, Real Eyes said:

According to him, she wanted to be a model in Chicago and left him. Then, when things weren’t working wanted him to take her back but he wouldn’t. So she moved to Houston. 

But, who knows what the truth is. They could be frauding us, as it is TLC. 

Whooaa.....wait a sec. Are you talking about Fernando?!  The teenager who loved Jon for so many reasons? He paid for her breast implants! He totally supports her desire to be a gym rat because it makes her happy to show off her body for God's sake!  😏

But seriously,  are you talking about Leeda? I don't even know what thread I'm on right now, lol

[Empress1]

Details.

[Rdh1314]

Gee. So sweet little Fernando obviously had no appreciation for that wonderful older man, who out of genuine love and compassion for her paid for breast implants, clothing,  jewelry,  and a gym membership!!!!!  Poor Jonathan.  He's such a catch, and Fern blew it.  Literally,  I guess.  But I have faith- Jon will heal.  He's probably already on another Mexican vacation checking out teenagers who are prettier than Fernando and ALREADY have big breasts that he won't have to invest in.  

Edited January 1, 2019 by Rdh1314
Oh, I forgot about the car too.

[zenme]

His mother will never let him live this down, and by the way, she looks particularly happy in the New Year's photo.

[Gobi]

For only 63¢ a day, you can help an underprivileged girl get breast implants. Call now, and we'll send you this lovely tote bag. (Breast implants not available in all Third World countries; certain restrictions apply.)

[Rdh1314]

3 minutes ago, Gobi said:

For only 63¢ a day, you can help an underprivileged girl get breast implants. Call now, and we'll send you this lovely tote bag. (Breast implants not available in all Third World countries; certain restrictions apply.)

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!😂

Edited January 1, 2019 by Rdh1314
OMG, STILL laughing at this!

[NannyBails]

So other than Fernanda wanting Jonathan attached to her hip, what were their problems?

[sainte-chapelle]

Yep supposedly they called it quits...that was fast.

[LellePCC]

As a therapist I like to think I’m pretty good at predicting these things, but jeez, even I didn’t see it ending that fast. 😂

[sainte-chapelle]

6 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

Maybe it was her posting a picture of his dick on the internet... by 'accident' of course.

A la Kardasian....first comes sex tape then comes fame and fortune.

[Raja]

1 minute ago, sainte-chapelle said:

A la Kardasian....first comes sex tape then comes fame and fortune.

Kim is the anti porn activist nightmare, at least no one else has translated their porn work into mainstream success.  At best those who have tried have done nothing more than being cast on a secondary reality show.  Of the 90 Day alumni I still think that Loren is the most likely one to go that path, unless being on Happily Ever After finally satisfied the star dream in her.

[Empress1]

44 minutes ago, NannyBails said:

So other than Fernanda wanting Jonathan attached to her hip, what were their problems?

From that link, it sounds like Fernanda thought she could make a go of it as a model, left him, realized she couldn't support herself (or at least, couldn't support herself comfortably), and begged to come back. Jonathan says she said some unforgivable things and he hasn't forgiven her. If she really did try to make a go of it as a model, it's not surprising that she got her feelings hurt pretty quickly. Maybe she'll make it as a model, maybe she won't, but that takes time and work and money and in the meantime, she's in a foreign country with no money, very few contacts, and not much education or skills. Like, did she have first, last, and security for an apartment? People she could couch-surf with? A plan for a day job while she got her book together? A plan to GET her book together? It sounds like she was like "I like Chicago better than North Carolina [which: no shade, me too] and I'm pretty, so: model!" without giving it much thought and reality smacked her in the face. 

I haven't watched the show in 3 or 4 episodes - was modeling mentioned before? Like, is this something she'd been working towards?

[Teri313]

13 minutes ago, Empress1 said:

From that link, it sounds like Fernanda thought she could make a go of it as a model, left him, realized she couldn't support herself (or at least, couldn't support herself comfortably), and begged to come back. Jonathan says she said some unforgivable things and he hasn't forgiven her. If she really did try to make a go of it as a model, it's not surprising that she got her feelings hurt pretty quickly. Maybe she'll make it as a model, maybe she won't, but that takes time and work and money and in the meantime, she's in a foreign country with no money, very few contacts, and not much education or skills. Like, did she have first, last, and security for an apartment? People she could couch-surf with? A plan for a day job while she got her book together? A plan to GET her book together? It sounds like she was like "I like Chicago better than North Carolina [which: no shade, me too] and I'm pretty, so: model!" without giving it much thought and reality smacked her in the face. 

I haven't watched the show in 3 or 4 episodes - was modeling mentioned before? Like, is this something she'd been working towards?

She never mentioned that she had modeling aspirations. I'm just curious to know if she ever mentioned it to him.

[NannyBails]

Just now, Teri313 said:

She never mentioned that she had modeling aspirations. I'm just curious to know if she ever mentioned it to him.

Yeah, it would be interesting to know.  Lumberton probably isn’t the place to move to if you want to pursue modeling.

[ChiCricket]

9 hours ago, Real Eyes said:

Married but according to his Instagram, now separated. 

 

[ChiCricket]

Fan sites also spotted Fernanda posting...

https://www.eonline.com/news/1000552/here-s-why-90-day-fiance-fans-think-jonathan-and-fernanda-broke-up

"When a toxic person can no longer control you, they will try to control how others see you," Fernanda previously shared on Instagram Stories. "The misinformation will feel unfair, but stay above it, trusting that other people will eventually see the truth, just like you did."

And earlier this week, the TLC reality star shared a photo of her wedding day with an interesting message.

"'I promise to be true to you in good times and in bad, in sickness and in health. I will love you and honour you all the days of my life' -He said," the caption stated. 

 (bolded by me)

Edited January 1, 2019 by ChiCricket

[LellePCC]

Fernanda is young and naive. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was similar to the Paola situation - someone in the industry sold her a really good fantasy of how great it could be, and she ate it up. 

[gonecrackers]

18 minutes ago, ChiCricket said:

"'I promise to be true to you in good times and in bad, in sickness and in health. I will love you and honour you all the days of my life' -He said," the caption stated. 

Sooooo, basically she can leave the marriage, & that's actually honoring HER vows to HIM. However, when she leaves the marriage & he doesn't take her right back after she flops on her own, HE's not honoring his vows to her... sounds like '19 year old I fucked up but not gonna take any responsibility' logic.

I suppose new 'boobies' don't go as far as he, or she, thought they would.

Edited January 2, 2019 by gonecrackers

[magemaud]

50 minutes ago, Teri313 said:

She never mentioned that she had modeling aspirations. I'm just curious to know if she ever mentioned it to him.

ANOTHER foreign fiancee with modeling aspirations? Has it worked for anyone yet? 

19 minutes ago, ChiCricket said:

'I promise to be true to you in good times and in bad, in sickness and in health. I will love you and honour you all the days of my life' -He said,"

HE said? What about her? Usually the bride makes the same pledge. 

[Raja]

4 minutes ago, magemaud said:

ANOTHER foreign fiancee with modeling aspirations? Has it worked for anyone yet? 

To be fair for the first couple it didn't seem to be the wife, but rather the producers pushing the you ought to be a model line. Then they could tease seeing someone in a real relationship, thus boring TV, in a skimping outfit.

[ChiCricket]

9 minutes ago, Raja said:

To be fair for the first couple it didn't seem to be the wife, but rather the producers pushing the you ought to be a model line. Then they could tease seeing someone in a real relationship, thus boring TV, in a skimping outfit.

I agree on that couple. I can't remember her name (Kirylam?) but she seemed genuine and sweet. I totally think that was a show set-up plot line.

[configdotsys]

Not sure I buy anything Jon says. What else would he say except put the blame on her and then say "but I won't repeat what she said here, so you'll just have to believe me." Well, I don't believe that is the whole story. I could see them having a fight if Fernanda fell in love with Chicago and thought there was so much more potential there than in sleepy Lumberton, but for her to stay behind to pursue modeling? and then say terrible things to him to the degree that when she realized she wouldn't be successful, he would not take her back? And all this happened in the span of how long? How did she support herself staying behind in Chicago. Unless I missed some other reports on this, I'm just not buying it.

[ChiCricket]

2 minutes ago, configdotsys said:

Not sure I buy anything Jon says. What else would he say except put the blame on her and then say "but I won't repeat what she said here, so you'll just have to believe me."

  Could this be gas-lighting the public? It's a possibility, at least.

[Frozendiva]

Somewhere in the he said, she said versions is a bit of the truth.

There are thousands of beautiful young girls who try to be models. Very few make it. Fernanda is one of the dime a dozen, at least right now. Maybe build up an Instagram modelling portfolio, since that is how it seems to be done. Have an IT factor. Other than that it is a tough slog. And a lot of hard, hard work for a small chance at making it. Or at least making enough money to live on.

Did Fernanda ever say that she was interested in modelling? Did she not approach any agencies/agents in Mexico and start her book/portfolio? There was never any real mention of what she planned to do in the US. I just assumed that her husband was paying for college or community college courses for her and she would work toward some degree or other certification.

Chicago is a nice big city with a lot of people and a lot to do - culture, sports, shopping, parks, etc. Sure beats where Jon lives.

And how Houston? Does she have friends there? Family?

I had zero expectation the marriage would last more than a year or two. Fernanda chose to leave Mexico, she chose to leave her family, she chose to come to the US to marry a dude. It was time to grow up and not throw a tantrum each time your husband comes home late from work, or if he wants to spend time with his friends. You are not sewn to him.

I can love and honour many people. Wonder if Fernanda was being true to herself, or maybe hoped that Jon would fund her modelling dream. Um, no, you work on that yourself and that is something you should have done before your married him.

Maybe they will own their dysfunction on the tell-all and that both simply conned each other with promises they never intended to keep.

[doyouevengohere]

eh, I doubt douche Jon is being 100% truthful on what happened.  He wants her to look bad if they are seperated.  I'm not surprised nor horrified if she did leave him.

[zenme]

8 hours ago, Gobi said:

For only 63¢ a day, you can help an underprivileged girl get breast implants. Call now, and we'll send you this lovely tote bag. (Breast implants not available in all Third World countries; certain restrictions apply.)

Well, I didn't want to make a comment about the implants being filled with candy  and toys, like pinatas, so I won't. 

If Jon was that stupid to pay for breasts on a 19 yr old who wasn't even his wife, he gets what he deserves. That money could have gone towards his tax lien.

[lucy711]

7 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Somewhere in the he said, she said versions is a bit of the truth.

There are thousands of beautiful young girls who try to be models. Very few make it. Fernanda is one of the dime a dozen, at least right now. Maybe build up an Instagram modelling portfolio, since that is how it seems to be done. Have an IT factor. Other than that it is a tough slog. And a lot of hard, hard work for a small chance at making it. Or at least making enough money to live on.

Did Fernanda ever say that she was interested in modelling? Did she not approach any agencies/agents in Mexico and start her book/portfolio? There was never any real mention of what she planned to do in the US. I just assumed that her husband was paying for college or community college courses for her and she would work toward some degree or other certification.

Chicago is a nice big city with a lot of people and a lot to do - culture, sports, shopping, parks, etc. Sure beats where Jon lives.

And how Houston? Does she have friends there? Family?

I had zero expectation the marriage would last more than a year or two. Fernanda chose to leave Mexico, she chose to leave her family, she chose to come to the US to marry a dude. It was time to grow up and not throw a tantrum each time your husband comes home late from work, or if he wants to spend time with his friends. You are not sewn to him.

I can love and honour many people. Wonder if Fernanda was being true to herself, or maybe hoped that Jon would fund her modelling dream. Um, no, you work on that yourself and that is something you should have done before your married him.

Maybe they will own their dysfunction on the tell-all and that both simply conned each other with promises they never intended to keep.

Thank you for saying this.  You don't just waltz into a modeling agency and get a contract.  It involves a lot of work.  My sister-in-law had a portfolio done and ran around all over NYC for years and got nowhere.  Like Fernanda, she is very pretty, but so are many, many girls that age.  And pretty isn't enough- you have to be the right height and have the right frame for clothing.  Maybe she should actually consider a more viable long-term plan like getting a skill or attending college.  Not everyone can make a living on taking pictures on Instagram.  I don't think she and Jonathan ever talked about long-term plans prior to their marriage.

[zenme]

Plus, the breast implants may have impacted the way her body shape is in clothing now.

[RealReality10]

On 12/24/2018 at 10:41 AM, RealReality10 said:

 

Is Chicago a mecca for modelling?  I don't think Fernanda has a future in traditional modelling but maybe "fitness" modelling that some women do online now.  But you could probably do that in Lumberton too.

[Drogo]

16 hours ago, zenme said:

His mother will never let him live this down, and by the way, she looks particularly happy in the New Year's photo.

She's probably over the moon that she's got her child-husband Jonathan back.  The sister was the only normal one in that family.

And Jon can go scratch with his "she said mean things" whinging.  Grow up, Jon- either you want the marriage, or you don't. 

[AZChristian]

3 hours ago, lucy711 said:

Maybe she should actually consider a more viable long-term plan like getting a skill or attending college.  Not everyone can make a living on taking pictures on Instagram.  I don't think she and Jonathan ever talked about long-term plans prior to their marriage.

Telemundo!  She already comes across as an actress on a soap opera.

[trimthatfat]

I’m skeptical that they really split up. Has TLC already cast HEA?

[sainte-chapelle]

None of Jon's claims shock me, she always seemed to me like a little drama queen that loved attention.  Remember her little act in the gym and the night club? She likely thought agencies and men would be falling all over her. When that did not happen she went crawling back. She's pretty but not all that and a slice of toast. Edit to add I am not saying I fully believe Jon but I can see her running off in a huff over Jon not supporting her modeling dream a la Paola.

Edited January 2, 2019 by sainte-chapelle

[ChiCricket]

19 hours ago, zenme said:

His mother will never let him live this down, and by the way, she looks particularly happy in the New Year's photo.

She doesn't look sad.

[Teri313]

4 hours ago, lucy711 said:

Thank you for saying this.  You don't just waltz into a modeling agency and get a contract.  It involves a lot of work.  My sister-in-law had a portfolio done and ran around all over NYC for years and got nowhere.  Like Fernanda, she is very pretty, but so are many, many girls that age.  And pretty isn't enough- you have to be the right height and have the right frame for clothing.  Maybe she should actually consider a more viable long-term plan like getting a skill or attending college.  Not everyone can make a living on taking pictures on Instagram.  I don't think she and Jonathan ever talked about long-term plans prior to their marriage.

It's also who you know/are related to. Gigi and Bella Hadid and Amelia and Deliliah Hamlin are not the most beautiful girls in the world, but because they are the  daughters of Yolanda (whatever her last name is now) and Lisa Rinna, they bypassed the line and were ushered right onto the Fashion Week catwalk, and then beyond - especially for Gigi Hadid. Same for Kelsey Grammer's daughter - not attractive at all, IMO, but because she is his and Camille's daughter, she got a huge break. The real "reality" is that the average girl trying to get into that business will have to work her ass off, be prepared to do things they aren't comfortable with, starve, tolerate brutal constructive criticism, and be prepared to deal with jealously and stiff competition. The only 90 Fiance cast member that sort of made it as a model is Pao, and that's a bit of a stretch, when you consider what she's done - some trashy music videos and a calendar over in Columbia that she paid for. Not sure what else, but if that's what she has shown us, then that's probably the best she's got to show off.

[Lusterleaf]

I was really surprised to read that they were the first couple that split. I do think she was too young for him though- she probably didn't want to be stuck in Lumberton and wanted to be in a big city.

[zenme]

Online dating  with someone who lives in a foreign country is totally different than having to see--and live, with someone day in, day out.  Having to see people clip toenails or fart while they sleep brings a whole new element of reality into the relationship. If it's someone you really love, you can get through those things. If not, it's "Bye. Next!" I can be shallow. If i would have gotten off the plane and had Eric take my family  and me to share one cheesteak, i would have soul searched for a total of 3 seconds, and gotten back to Indo. Especially, if I were the pampered princess Leida claims to  be.

Jon and the lost and found undies? I see you, Jon. You're a player. You cheated. If I'd have picked up and left my family and friends and all I know to marry a man that clearly cheated, I would have turned his game around on him, had him spoiling me for 89 days, and went home on day 90. Left him with his empty pockets hanging out of his pants. I'm vindictive like that.

Edited January 2, 2019 by zenme

[funky-rat]

6 minutes ago, zenme said:

Online dating  with someone who lives in a foreign country is totally different than having to see--and live, with someone day in, day out.  Having to see people clip toenails or fart while they sleep brings a whole new element of reality into the relationship. If it's someone you really love, you can get through those things. If not, it's "Bye. Next!" I can be shallow. If i would have gotten off the plane and had Eric take my family and into share one cheesteak, i would have soul searched for a total of 3 seconds, and gotten back to Indo. Especially, if I were the pampered princess Leida claims to  be.

My parents insisted my husband and I live together before we got married (as in share a bedroom, etc).  It was truly an eye opener, and it still didn't prepare me for when we moved out on our own after we got married.

[zenme]

Totally agree, funky-rat. On the first night I'd moved in with now hubby, he farted in his sleep. I wanted to pack up my stuff and move. I would have, if it wasn't impractical.  

I have two adult children, and I think moving in is a good idea. Also, these people seem to have had no real conversations about finances. Did Leida not know what it meant when Eric said he'd told her "...we might have to pick some bills some months"? 

ETA, I was young when I got married. We've been happily married 28 yrs, so I would have made a huge mistake by leaving over sleep farting. He said he didn't know he did it because he was asleep, but I "aired" my grievances, no pun intended. Communication, people. 

Edited January 2, 2019 by zenme

[gonecrackers]

I don't care for either of them, but figured they might be suited for each other just due to their ages (Fern's bio age & Jon's emotional age are about the same to me - in fact he might even be younger).

But I don't think she left for Chicago because Jon cheated - not that he wouldn't cheat, but if he had I believe she would've said it.  To me it seems like she thinks she's super hot stuff, & the way Jon pampered her really built her ego up even more. Fern probably really did think she could make it in Chicago as a model (even though she doesn't even stand up straight), but she's not going to work for it. She probably waltzed into an agency after having been on TV (where she was really over working her time) thinking they'd have jobs lined up immediately & instead they were like, yeah right, whatever - next!

As far as the words, he does sound juvenile, but words can do a lot of damage. It's not even a forgiveness thing; it's a 'what you've said is gonna haunt me forever' thing - it can also speak for how she's really feeling. She may have felt she didn't need him, was just using him as a stepping stone, but that backfired & when he had issues with her leaving the marriage - which is what she did & anyone should have issues with that - her temper flared. And we've seen that temper; I bet she can be really vile when she's losing it (& not on TV) & not getting what she wants.

Anyway, I don't think much of either of them, because Jon basically thought he could buy a 19yo 'hot' (to him; it's relative) wife. He also seems like the type who would get sick of her as she ages or after she bangs out a couple of kids & trade her in for a new model with newer 'boobies'. 

And after saying all that they could have this big 'reunion', splash it all over SM & end up with another season.

But I still think they're both fake, immature, over dramatic assholes.

[RealReality10]

^^ and even with all that, I still find them boring.

[emjohnson03]

I could see them doing the whole break up and make up thing. Because no one has said divorce I could see this being more drama and of course TLC is going to want to follow this I think into more episodes so they can milk it for the cameras too.

It does surprise me but it doesn't. The emotional capacity for both of them is low and I think she's very young to feel settled. I think she was looking for some fun and excitement and thought this could be it. 

[gonecrackers]

43 minutes ago, RealReality10 said:

^^ and even with all that, I still find them boring.

LOL, yeah!

[Arthur Jury]

I am so sorry to be rude but IMHO the only modeling opportunities the 'bewbie cure' has is porn.  Come to the San "Fernada" Valley, Fernanda, they need you !!!

[Frozendiva]

Very few models get to the top of the food chain. Some of the children of former 'supermodels' and not Instagram stars or celebrity offspring (even Cindy Crawford's daughter) are now on the scene and really talented young women will get looked over for them. Fashion has changed and it is the celebutantes who will draw in the people with money.

Someone I know who modelled in the past went to university for a bachelor's degree and then a Master's degree to provide herself with education and a career after modelling. Teaches at a college and does communications work. She wasn't going to be in the big leagues of modelling but assessed her skills, found something she liked, and made some better choices and came out with a great career.

Fernanda should have some idea that a model's job opportunities start to dry up by age 25. Some go on longer, but there is always a new face. And many magazines now feature actresses as their cover stars. Models have fallen a bit.

Fernanda maybe should look in to television/soap operas, especially for the Spanish market. It's a start, it may bring her some work, and better opportunities. Even Fernanda has to pay her dues a bit.

[RealReality10]

^^ I'm pretty meh on Fernanda, but I wonder who told her she could be a model?  Was it some skeevey dude at the gym?