Season 6 Discussion

[Mothra]

21 hours ago, queenjen said:

I wouldn't be so sure. In Australia, breakfast burritos are virtually unknown as a breakfast item at home , Mexican food is around but hasn't made it's way into our daily life, except in the most basic of ways (taco kits that no self respecting Mexican would recognise). As for the Cheesesteak? No idea. Never had one, they are not an option in foodcourts in malls etc. Some specialty burger places MIGHT have them, but I'm totally unaware. I still don't know what it is. I THOUGHT because we have a product called 'Philadelphia Cream Cheese' here, a Cheesesteak must be a big lump of this fried and stuck in a breadroll. But the photo circulating fromm 90DF on this board doesn't fit that description? 

Further, in Asian countries,  Indonesia for example, milk is not that common. It's just not used or eaten like it is in the West. The times I've travelled in South East Asia, it's UHT milk if you want a coffee anywhere outside of a major city and by the time I was returning home, the first thing I wanted to eat was a toasted cheese sandwich. In Bali (which is in Indonesia), I stayed in a village for weeks, where the breakfast options were black rice porridge and fruit. This is what Leida is expecting. When she says 'chicken porridge', it's probably made of a sticky rice with chicken bits. And those chicken bits!!! there's never anything I can identify from the chicken. Not saying 'it's not chicken', I'm just saying, they use EVERYTHING.

And I've had some weird food experiences where the cook/chef tries to use CHEESE but just doesn't understand it's properties. I had a crab dish that had cheese melted all over it for lunch one day and that was...different. My brother got stomach issues for days after! As for me, the only dairy I ate in Bali was the occasional iced treat that resembled (branded same) the chocolate coated vanilla ice cream centred treats called "magnums' here in Australia. But there was a subtle difference: they WERE the same brand, but these were made in Indonesia. I DID get sick from this. It was the same time that China got into big trouble for additives in milk formula for babies, some kind of indigestible plastic powder, or something. Vanilla ice cream is made of milk, and i wondered if some of this 'filler' had made it's way into my icecream. Anyway. Dairy doesn't feature in the Indonesian diet as it does in ours.

You can't get a real cheesesteak outside Philadelphia because you can't get the right Italian (or "Italian"--no idea if these exist in Italy; around here, they're made by Italian bakeries) roll (really chewy, yet light at the same time) anywhere else, and I mean *anywhere* else.  The cheese is American or provolone, usually, melted over hot, thinly shaved beef (that's the steak; I don't what kind of steak, but it's tender enough or thinly sliced enough to eat without cutting it up further), sometimes with fried onions (that's the way I like it) or other stuff like peppers and tomato sauce.  It's a hot, greasy--*very* greasy--hunk of deliciousness that contains no calories at all.

I learned from my Vietnamese almost-daughter-in-law that most Asians are lactose-intolerant; hence the virtual absence of dairy products in Asian foods.  After I gave her a big bowl of ice cream.

3 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

You have to have at least 20 years of service to retire from the military, and he's only 40.  He could have 20 years of military service under his belt, but he would have had to hustle. 

I don't think it unlikely that he did enlist at 18.  He seems like the kind of guy who wants discipline and order in his life, and for a teenager the military is just about the only place to find that, if you don't have those abilities within yourself.

[Lily247]

2 hours ago, Spike said:

 

It seemed like she has a car too.  

Olga gave very few details of her past. It seems like she neither is an orphan or became estranged from her parents. The apartment, though dingy, is pretty nice for a 20 year old orphan in Russian though. What do any of these people do for work?? (Kalani, Olga,Eric). And what is Leidas deal, is she an real MD doctor, wanting to be one, ?? 

Another thing I noticed was that several of the fiances spoke ONLY of their desire to come to the US (Jay especially). I dont think i heard him say 1 word about his love for Ashley. By the way, excuse my ignorance, but when he says "we Jamaican men have the heavy sack" what is referring to?

[Mothra]

6 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

I do not buy Kalani's damage control for one solitary second. Papa Kalani's actions showed that he considers himself the superior of his wife and daughters, no one dared to make a peep when he was verbally abusing Asuelu.  Daddy dearest doesn't want his daughters out from under his thumb. He wants control over who they see, what they do, and when (and if) they marry at all. I'm sure Kalani is the one chosen to remain at home and care for her parents as they age. Kolini is mad because if Kalani gets married and leaves the family home, she'll have to be the caretaker.

I don't know that it was explicitly stated, but I knew Kalani's father was Samoan, and I believe his not wanting his daughter to marry a Samoan comes from the contempt he feels for his countrymen, believing them lazy and unreliable.  I think it's sort of like the father who doesn't want his daughter to date because he was such a cocksman at her age.  At any rate, I softened a little toward papa K. after he grilled Asuelo and seemed satisfied Asuelo would find work in construction and work hard at it.

[eatsleep]

41 minutes ago, Saje81 said:

For example, their situation reminds me a bit of my grandmother and her only child, my uncle. She married my grandfather when she was in her 30s, and lost pregnancies prior to my uncle's birth. She spoiled him terribly, gave him zero responsibility and overfed him to the point that their family doctor told her to stop or she would handicap him for life. He grew into a socially stunted adult who basically lived at home and barely worked until he was 35. He then smartened up, learned a trade and moved away. He's never had a long-term relationship and has no children. He's a wonderful uncle and has been really good to me over the years, and does not have any of the apparent anger issues Colt seems to have, but I do see shades of a similar situation with he and Debbie. I have a feeling there's a lot of difficult history there.

Wait...how is this your grandmother if she had only one child, your uncle? Wouldn't she have to be the mother of your mother or father to be your grandmother?

 

26 minutes ago, Mothra said:

I think you might be right about where they live and his salary.  He's ex-military, too, isn't he?  Does he have a pension or other benefits like health care coverage?  I'm not so sure about his not needing his daughter to help with expenses, though.  I think if he didn't need her paying half, he would have moved her out a long time ago.  Plus he is not as forceful as I think he might be about her getting out before his new family gets there (he must know his daughter's presence is really going to upset Leida).  Her share might not be absolutely necessary to his keeping the apartment, but I'm sure it makes a big positive difference in his cash flow.

He served only 8 or 9 years. So no pension. Possible access to military healthcare. No other substantial benefits but would qualify for a VA home loan if discharged honorably.

 

27 minutes ago, iwasish said:

I’d be interested in seeing her place in Brazil to see just how much of a palace she’s giving up to move into that hovel Colt and Debbie live in. Did she have a car in Brazil? Was it in pristine condition with excellent a/c? 

I just can’t imagine bringing someone  to the US as a possible future spouse and basically have them shit on everything around me. 

Some parts of Brazil are really metropolitan and one would have a hard time distinguishing them from a large American (US) cities. Larissa does not have that backwards, improverished look like Karine. Cassia either.

[Spike]

17 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I disagree.  To me, nothing says family home like a slot machine in the dining room.

 

When they were at the Las Vegas sign, he said something about how she'd been in town for three hours; I don't remember how he put it, but I didn't get the impression that he meant she'd spent 3 hours in customs at the airport.  And the Las Vegas sign is right by the airport--you can even see planes sitting there across the street, and I thought, "It took you three hours to get to the sign from the airport?"

So I wonder if they DID drive around, maybe even down the strip, and they didn't show it.

 

You have to have at least 20 years of service to retire from the military, and he's only 40.  He could have 20 years of military service under his belt, but he would have had to hustle. 

If you buy that a guy who looks 60 is 40.  Maybe cirrhosis does that.

[eatsleep]

7 minutes ago, Lily247 said:

Another thing I noticed was that several of the fiances spoke ONLY of their desire to come to the US (Jay especially). I dont think i heard him say 1 word about his love for Ashley. By the way, excuse my ignorance, but when he says "we Jamaican men have the heavy sack" what is referring to?

Sexual prowess

[PinkFlamingo]

5 minutes ago, Lily247 said:

 

Another thing I noticed was that several of the fiances spoke ONLY of their desire to come to the US (Jay especially). I dont think i heard him say 1 word about his love for Ashley. By the way, excuse my ignorance, but when he says "we Jamaican men have the heavy sack" what is referring to?

You mean you didn't try googling "Jamaican men heavy sack" to find out? ?

[Spike]

9 minutes ago, Lily247 said:

Olga gave very few details of her past. It seems like she neither is an orphan or became estranged from her parents. The apartment, though dingy, is pretty nice for a 20 year old orphan in Russian though. What do any of these people do for work?? (Kalani, Olga,Eric). And what is Leidas deal, is she an real MD doctor, wanting to be one, ?? 

Another thing I noticed was that several of the fiances spoke ONLY of their desire to come to the US (Jay especially). I dont think i heard him say 1 word about his love for Ashley. By the way, excuse my ignorance, but when he says "we Jamaican men have the heavy sack" what is referring to?

Large scrotum, good in bed?

[Lily247]

Just now, Spike said:

Large scrotum, good in bed?

Oh my god.

[KateHearts]

57 minutes ago, Saje81 said:

For example, their situation reminds me a bit of my grandmother and her only child, my uncle. She married my grandfather when she was in her 30s, and lost pregnancies prior to my uncle's birth

wait a minute; then how is she your grandmother if your uncle is her only child?

[Drogo]

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[Starlight925]

1 hour ago, Snewtsie said:

I soooo agree with this- he really should have driven on the strip as a way to welcome her to Vegas.  There is so much to see, and I quick drive past the huge properties would have been a great teaser for a future evening out on the town, where they could walk through the casinos and hotel lobbies on foot.  I'd stay away from shopping, though, because we all know he would not buy her a damn thing and those malls you mention have some incredibly pricey designer stores.

That's good info on Vegas homes, but Vegas does have an expansive amount of homes with pools- maybe not built in the last 10 years (I hadn't known about that mandate, but I'm trusting you know this topic well).  I love all the mid-century modern neighborhoods that are in Vegas, and many do have pools.  And plus, even if homes don't have individual pools, wouldn't many of them be built in areas which have a community pool?  I would have to believe Dolt's home is in one of these communities (it looked similar to a neighborhood my friend lived in, located in Summerlin).... no?

Summerlin was all built up prior to the "no grass, no pools" mandate.  Summerlin is beautiful.

Their home reminded me of anywhere, Vegas.  You can find those homes in all parts of the city, and prior to the housing bubble 10 years ago, they were very expensive for what they were.  People were buying up so many homes at a time, as the values were rising daily, that the city had to put a limit on the number of homes one could own.  Of course, the bubble burst, mortgages were defaulted upon, and here we are.

There really aren't many new communities with pools, as there just isn't enough water.  So the newer neighborhoods look very barren:  rock formations as a front & back yard, with cacti and only non-water-needing plants as landscaping.

Re:   Shopping:  there's just something about the feel of Venetian/Caesar's, and there are shops where one can buy a $40 gift item, or dream about a $4000 handbag.  It's just part of the Vegas feel.  Take her for a gondola ride in the Venetian, and a nice iced latte.  Something....anything....other than Debbie's dog-beef stew.

[Raja]

26 minutes ago, KateHearts said:

wait a minute; then how is she your grandmother if your uncle is her only child?

On the Filipino side of my family someone doing the primary child care or supervision of nannies  like I'm assuming Leida's sister did would often be called mommy. Likewise grand uncle's are called grandfather. Just about any senior would be called Lolo or grandfather in informal speech 

[Starlight925]

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[Pink-n-Green]

On 11/6/2018 at 4:07 PM, sconstant said:

Yes.  And then yes again.  (And when we say "try a pretzel" we are talking not about the traditional Philly street cart fare, but a "we JUST made this and buttered it for you" thing which actually made of a slice of cloud mixed with sparkles, manna, and ambrosia, rolled out and then baked.)

Being from Pittsburgh, I have a hard time saying anything positive about Philly; but I must admit the buttery pretzel intrigues me! ;)

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

3 hours ago, doyouevengohere said:

Maybe they are renting for the show; like family Chantel....... There was really nothing personal in the house; it did not look lived in like a family home.

Perhaps, I wonder when they leave will the landlord post the current photos

[Pink-n-Green]

I think Steven seems like an earnest guy, if somewhat immature.  But then, he is still young.  I wonder why he didn't make an effort to see to it that his child was born in the United States?  Does the visa process take that long? 

I went to the State Department website and came upon this subject heading:  Birth Abroad in Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen and an Alien  and laughed my a$$ off.   After I was done laughing, I found that it makes a difference whether the father and the "alien" are married or not.  Also, there are some conditions that need to be met for the child to be granted citizenship.  But not automatic like if he were born in the US.

[snarkish]

I'm way behind and lurking, folks. I just don't have it in me this season. To me, it's a snoozefest compared to Before the 90 Days which caused me all the traumas. All my thoughts have already been posted by others, but my take, in a nutshell:

Who wants "bith phtew" (Toaster Strudel, you win yet another award) in all that heat? Is that even something you would think to serve someone here in the US for the first time? Not that Larissa is off the hook that easy, I don't GAF about cultural differences, it's rude as Hell to march up to your room after you refuse the meal offered to you and lock yourself in there until the next morning, tired or not. She's a petulant child with horse teeth. 

The infamous cheesesteak, I am with the camp that it wasn't meant as lunch, but wanted them all to try a bite of it. But, napkins, knives and something to wash it down, PLEASE. And while they're out and about, please purchase Eric some shampoo and stop in Great Clips for a decent haircut. 

Yes, Kalani is a big lump of hair. At age 30 (and a parent in her own right) to sit/stand by while Mommy prepares everyone's dinner is ridiculous. She's beyond juvenile. The whole family dynamic with Captain "Low" Albano and the "Daddy Sister" is creepy AF. Does baby Oliver EVER smile? I miss Lucy.

Jay over-reacting about the cold (sans appropriate clothing, of course) and making snow angels on the carpet, yep, Ashley, you have child #3 there. 

Fernanda needs her own show and needs to not divulge anything else to Jonathan's female "friend". 

Steve and Olga are the only ones that hold any attention from me. Very curious to see how he handles fatherhood and what happens when they get stateside. So far, I'm rooting for them. 

[NoWhammies]

2 hours ago, Snewtsie said:

I soooo agree with this- he really should have driven on the strip as a way to welcome her to Vegas. 

I swear I saw the Excalibur outside of his window at one point, and the Welcome sign is heading towards the strip. But in the day, the Strip sort of lacks the punch it has at night. So I suspect they did, indeed, drive down the strip or at least part of it.

[eatsleep]

32 minutes ago, snarkish said:

Yes, Kalani is a big lump of hair. At age 30 (and a parent in her own right) to sit/stand by while Mommy prepares everyone's dinner is ridiculous. She's beyond juvenile. The whole family dynamic with Captain "Low" Albano and the "Daddy Sister" is creepy AF. Does baby Oliver EVER smile? I miss Lucy.

But that Allessandro is giving Lucy a run for her cutest reality tv kid title! 

[Morgalisa]

3 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I thought that immediately, beige walls, no pictures on the walls and you know there has to be a 16x20 Sears portrait of Mother Coltee and Coltee with a mullet from the 80's.  

Mother Coltee is probably paying most of the rent with her Social Security check because she wanted Coltee to save his money to buy a woman.

Just wondering, since there were snowmen in the living room, is it even the holiday season?

I wonder if Mother Coltee is old enough for Social Secutity.

[Spike]

You can get a reduced amount at 62.  Maybe she receives some kind of disability or widow’s benefits.

[Jennifersdc]

2 hours ago, Pink-n-Green said:

Being from Pittsburgh, I have a hard time saying anything positive about Philly; but I must admit the buttery pretzel intrigues me! ;)

My husband being from Cleveland - that’s what he says about Pittsburgh. He’s an avid - see bitter sports fan. I’m not even supposed to use Heinz ketchup (I do - it’s far superior to the other brands).

[renatae]

On 11/5/2018 at 4:30 AM, millennium said:

Captain Lou:  "Why don't you put on a pair of pants, Asuelo?  We wear pants in America.   What's you're wearing just isn't right."

Asuelo:  No, it's sarong.

LOL. Not "it's s'aright," "it's s'arong." I almost missed what you did there. Just wish I could remember what that cartoon was. :)

[Chalby]

On 11/5/2018 at 3:20 PM, Rdh1314 said:

Wouldn't Klannie have been excommunicated from the Mormon church when she got pregnant before marriage?  Or severely disciplined?

Maybe they are pick & choose Mormons who don't actually show up to temple but kind of practise at home? I know a couple where the wife is a practising Mormon, and that is okay, so long as she still defers to him. He loves that she 'found' this faith 4 years into their marriage. He does as he pleases and she's all about him and the kids. Different strokes...?

[Chalby]

On 11/6/2018 at 4:19 AM, Maximadc said:

Anfisa was 19, Larissa is 30

Good point, but I don't know if I am going to warm up to either Larissa or Colt - they kind of deserve each other. I never warmed up to Anfisa or Jorge either. I have to admire both Larissa's and Anfisa's level of confidence as neither of them is particularly attractive. I wish all young girls had this strong confidence/belief in themselves. The occurrence of emotional abuse in relationships would be so low because 'those' type of men would remain single. (Happy, fantasy sigh... and... it's gone.)

[CoachWristletJen]

On 11/6/2018 at 3:59 PM, Mothra said:

Franklin Institute admission:  $23 per adult, $19 for children over 3 years old

I want to stand up for Debbie.  I feel so sorry for her.  She has essentially devoted her life to Coltee, as mentally unhealthy as that may be, and she seems to me to be trying really hard to please Larissa.  I think the barrage of negative remarks from Larissa hit Debbie like a pie in the face--she never expected *anyone* to be so rude so suddenly.  Sure, she's weird, and sure, she has a strange relationship with her son; she was trying in her weirdness to please Coltee and his squeeze.  I think the snowmen in the living room were meant to be a cheerful Xmas greeting for Larissa--they look brand new.  And while beef stew may be a dumb thing to offer Larissa after the long trip and the heat, it's probably the fanciest dish Debbie knows how to make, and she meant it as a gesture of affection and respect..

OTOH, I don't think Larissa is trying to be rude.  I just think she doesn't understand some things about American culture, like holding your nose and eating the hot, heavy food your future mother-in-law has prepared for you.  And she was embarrassed and apologetic about the slot machine--that was kind of a trap, but I guess it didn't occur to Coltee or Debbee that it needed explanation.  She ought to know better, though, than to criticize the home decor and its deficiencies in front of Debbee--she should have waited until she was alone with Coltee and told him that she couldn't live with his mother plus where's my pool.

Also, Coltee didn't help matters at all with his insistence on keeping it real. When Mom asked about their grand Vegas sightseeing in the hot car, he went out of his way to state Larissa didn't like it and then to expand on why, adding specifics. This definitely opened the door for blunt communication.

And Larissa was indeed blunt. I don't think it was a cultural thing. I think she's probably a bit of a square peg in her own right.  That being said, Colt's mom clearly overreacted to everything that was said, every word of it.  She was a little blunt... so what? Maybe she's jet lagged. Maybe she's nervous.  Maybe we give her another chance tomorrow.  I really wouldn't have cared if she didn't eat the dinner I prepared. I'd just say, hey, it's in the fridge. You can nuke some later if you want. No big deal. Just roll with it. Get to know her.

Also, it didn't help that Colt viewed their initial encounter as a catastrophe. So they didn't click right away. No big deal. Just give it time.  Colt seemed to think everything was doomed...

[Kiss my mutt]

Colt must have some degree of emotional competence as he sure knows how to comfort his mom!

[Neurochick]

Maybe I’m confused but what was Larissa’s problem with Colt and Debbie’s house?  It was a normal two bedroom, two bathroom home.  Also there is nothing wrong with being thrifty.  Maybe some people in this country wouldn’t be so much in debt if they learned not to spend money on everything they wanted.  

[Neurochick]

5 hours ago, KateHearts said:

wait a minute; then how is she your grandmother if your uncle is her only child?

Perhaps a step grandmother?  

[guilfoyleatpp]

1 hour ago, Neurochick said:

Perhaps a step grandmother?  

I was also thinking it was the grandmother's only child but not the grandfather's. Previous marriages happen. Widows. Widowers. Divorces. Babies out of wedlock. Children given up for adoption and the reunited via 23 and Me searches.

The mind boggles at the variety of ways this statement could be true. 

[queenjen]

10 hours ago, Sterling said:

Something....anything....other than Debbie's dog-beef stew.

Had to laugh: Heather McDonald's short recap on her Juicy Scoop podcast, when she mistook Debbie's 'beef stew' for 'pea soup'. Nothing in those ramekins looked edible to me.

[Lily247]

12 hours ago, PinkFlamingo said:

You mean you didn't try googling "Jamaican men heavy sack" to find out? ?

But.... what a STRANGE way to call it ! I have all sorts of imagery in my head that I wish would just get out !

[Lily247]

7 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

Also, Coltee didn't help matters at all with his insistence on keeping it real. When Mom asked about their grand Vegas sightseeing in the hot car, he went out of his way to state Larissa didn't like it and then to expand on why, adding specifics. This definitely opened the door for blunt communication.

And Larissa was indeed blunt. I don't think it was a cultural thing. I think she's probably a bit of a square peg in her own right.  That being said, Colt's mom clearly overreacted to everything that was said, every word of it.  She was a little blunt... so what? Maybe she's jet lagged. Maybe she's nervous.  Maybe we give her another chance tomorrow.  I really wouldn't have cared if she didn't eat the dinner I prepared. I'd just say, hey, it's in the fridge. You can nuke some later if you want. No big deal. Just roll with it. Get to know her.

Also, it didn't help that Colt viewed their initial encounter as a catastrophe. So they didn't click right away. No big deal. Just give it time.  Colt seemed to think everything was doomed...

Whatever it is.... who makes BEEF STEW for a newly arrives guest ? Maybe it's just me but I think that's wierd. I wouldnt personally be crazy about any kind of stew that a stranger prepared for me, but maybe that's just me. I know that it was very nice of debbie to prepare a meal for Larissas arrival but ... and also Colt is VERY inexperienced at relationships with women, he immediately pitted then against each other,  told on Larissa to Mother (she hates everything about vegas mommy!)

[Baltimore Betty]

2 hours ago, queenjen said:

Had to laugh: Heather McDonald's short recap on her Juicy Scoop podcast, when she mistook Debbie's 'beef stew' for 'pea soup'. Nothing in those ramekins looked edible to me.

Stew is not pretty.

I too immediately thought it was a strange choice to serve to Larissa when she was hot, tired and fresh off of a long flight but I am sure that Debbie was thinking that her baby boy loves her beef stew so....

Every scene that Larissa was in she was wearing a long sleeve shirt and a leather skirt, it makes me think that she did not Google anything about Las Vegas, like most of the imports, she did not do her homework.  Maybe Coltee could have offered her a cold drink and a shower before they hit her with the hot, stick to your ribs bith phtew.

[Spike]

3 hours ago, Lily247 said:

But.... what a STRANGE way to call it ! I have all sorts of imagery in my head that I wish would just get out !

He also said Jamaican men “come tall.”  I don’t know if that means they are hung or that they ejaculate like Old Faithful.

[Spike]

3 hours ago, Lily247 said:

Whatever it is.... who makes BEEF STEW for a newly arrives guest ? Maybe it's just me but I think that's wierd. I wouldnt personally be crazy about any kind of stew that a stranger prepared for me, but maybe that's just me. I know that it was very nice of debbie to prepare a meal for Larissas arrival but ... and also Colt is VERY inexperienced at relationships with women, he immediately pitted then against each other,  told on Larissa to Mother (she hates everything about vegas mommy!)

Ingredients = cube steak, canned mushy carrots, potatoes past their sell-by date with those little green sprouts growing out of them, and McCormick beef gravy powder.  Or maybe it’s just Dinty Moore with a dollop of a Debbie secret ingredient like mayo.  They didn’t show us the strawberry jello mold with fruit cocktail inside.

[iwasish]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Stew is not pretty.

I too immediately thought it was a strange choice to serve to Larissa when she was hot, tired and fresh off of a long flight but I am sure that Debbie was thinking that her baby boy loves her beef stew so....

Every scene that Larissa was in she was wearing a long sleeve shirt and a leather skirt, it makes me think that she did not Google anything about Las Vegas, like most of the imports, she did not do her homework.  Maybe Coltee could have offered her a cold drink and a shower before they hit her with the hot, stick to your ribs bith phtew.

Colt and his mother seem to have acclimated to the heat. Therefore a meal like stew might not seem as heavy as it could to others. It may also be Colts favorite. Whatever the reason for making it, she meant well and Larissa could have been a bit more gracious. 

[CoachWristletJen]

4 hours ago, queenjen said:

Had to laugh: Heather McDonald's short recap on her Juicy Scoop podcast, when she mistook Debbie's 'beef stew' for 'pea soup'. Nothing in those ramekins looked edible to me.

I thought I heard pea soup, too! Neither one sounded especially appetizing after having travelled for 24 hours... especially with the last leg of the journey being Colt's hot car ride!

I agree with the poster who talked about serving a cold tray of sandwiches and fresh fruit. Also, offer Larissa some options! We don't yet know what kinds of foods she likes.  When Coltie was standing there eating, it looked like Mom had just made the one thing.  Cucumber sandwiches, pimento cheese, turkey and avocado, etc. Keep the condiments and sliced veggies on the side. Maybe a nice pie for dessert or some fresh pastries from a local bakery? Of course, all of those things cost money which they don't like spending. Not much money, but money.

Also, if her guest isn't hungry, why should she sweat it? Larissa's still on Brazilian time internally. Maybe she was too excited to eat... excited because she was finally in America with her beloved Coltie. 

It might be that she hated beef stew and was just trying to be polite when she said, "I'll eat when I'm hungry." 

Not sure whether Larissa's rudeness was inadvertent or, well, vertent, but Mama Colt's was definitely vertent.  I saw a heavy dose of defiance and anger underneath those tears. It came through in how she spoke and the definitiveness of what she had to say. And, keeping Colt and Larissa apart after they've already been apart for so long is just RUDE. She's already had to share him with the cameras, and now she has to share him with YOU? You've had him for over 30 years!

Debbie, enjoy your manipulative tactics while they last because there's a new sheriff in town. The decor isn't the only thing that Larissa is getting ready to change. And when Coltie has to choose between sex and Mom time, Mom is going to lose. And, I'm sorry, but it needs to happen.

I cannot imagine how painful it must be to be a widow. I do know that she's not the first widow, and she needs to find other resources besides her son.  She's given lip service to that effect, but she has no intention of doing so until she is pushed out. And, the bottom line is that Colt has the right to live his own life.

She talked about kicking them out. It wouldn't surprise me if they went in 50/50 on the house, but she considers it hers. He's employed, and I doubt she's rich.  Regardless of their situation, the talk of kicking them out is lip service, too. Debbie would crumble up and die without Coltie under her roof. Larissa has probably already figured this out which is why she will be holding all the cards.

[CoachWristletJen]

15 hours ago, NoWhammies said:

I swear I saw the Excalibur outside of his window at one point, and the Welcome sign is heading towards the strip. But in the day, the Strip sort of lacks the punch it has at night. So I suspect they did, indeed, drive down the strip or at least part of it.

Hopefully, he will take her for a walk-thru of those beautiful hotels at night! Since he's too cheap to whisk her away from mom's place for an overnight stay, he could at least park in one of the lots so that they could walk from one to the other for free.  I think that side of Vegas would meet even Larissa's expectations of glamour. Vegas is actually fairly reasonable as long as you don't gamble.

Coltie can buy her a Diet Coke, or he can bring a can from home. 

The only issue would be the cost of parking which is not outrageous but might be by Colt Standards.  Of course, maybe he could have his mom drop them off?

Really, he should take her for a gondola ride at the Bellagio although you have to book those in advance. And there again, they do cost money!

So it's settled then, Debbie drops you off, hand her a can of Diet Coke as you help her out of the car, spend a fun evening walking around the hotels and don't buy her anything.

Text Mom when your done. I feel like adding don't stay out past curfew!

Edited November 8, 2018 by CoachWristletJen

[NoWhammies]

Heck - even taking her to watch the Bellagio fountains at night would be something...

[funky-rat]

14 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

My husband being from Cleveland - that’s what he says about Pittsburgh. He’s an avid - see bitter sports fan. I’m not even supposed to use Heinz ketchup (I do - it’s far superior to the other brands).

I live in North Central PA, and feel more at home in Philly than I do Pittsburgh.  I don't give two craps about sports.  But they have different ways out there, which is fine, but they're not kind about it if you're out there visiting and unaware.  I had a boss that was in this area from Greensburg because her husband was transferred to a facility nearby.  She complained constantly about how much our area sucked, how much better Greensburg/Pittsburgh area was, and made fun of everything we did, what we had to eat, the way we talked (when she had far more oddball terms, mannerisms, etc)…..  I've never experienced that with anyone from the Philly area.  I lived in NE Ohio for a few years, and love the Cleveland area.  

[Mothra]

13 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

I really wouldn't have cared if she didn't eat the dinner I prepared. I'd just say, hey, it's in the fridge. You can nuke some later if you want. No big deal. Just roll with it. Get to know her.

But you seem to be a relatively sane (given that you watch and comment on this show) person.  If you were BFF with your 30ish son and had been his boon companion, sharing feelings and opinions like you share popcorn, I bet you would have cared.  I know I would've.

Here's the thing that gets me about Coltie:  like many of the American men, he's aiming far above his level in his pursuit of women, and I think he's headed for heartbreak.  He's not horrible-looking; with exercise, he could be sort of attractive.  The man-boobs are totally unfortunate turnoffs imo.  His face is nice, and he seems to be a kind person, and funny, too--which Larissa doesn't get.

He's a nerd, and there are plenty of female nerds around, active on social media, but he apparently is not interested in them.  It's my opinion only, of course, but I believe Coltie turns up his nose at normal-looking women, like so many of these guys, and goes abroad where his perceived wealth makes him a lot more attractive than he actually is.  I bet he would sneer at an overweight woman who is just as nice, as funny, as nerdy and as thrifty as he is; he wants an unrealistic Lara Croft partner.

My son, who is 6'2, ultra-fit, and stunningly handsome, is also nerdy, and he meets women online, too.  He has had serious relationships with gorgeous, smart, interesting women he met on social media, but he is in love with a dumpy, short woman with three children *who is as nerdy as he is*.  I couldn't be prouder.

Edited November 8, 2018 by Mothra
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[gonecrackers]

Colt & Mother seem like creatures of habit. Sadly, Larissa probably landed on beef stew night.  Their home is not a diner & Debs isn't obligated to offer a smorgasbord for her highness. It was on Colt to know his future wife better; know her likes (pools for instance) & dislikes (there are many), but that would include food. They could've stocked the fridge so Diva could rudely turn down crap she typically eats. Or, just take her to a market the next day & have her pick food, then she can't complain (as much... maybe).

Larissa said she was tired, so doubtful she'd want to 'do the town' right off the re-enactment of her arrival plane.

[ALittleShelfish]

39 minutes ago, funky-rat said:

I live in North Central PA, and feel more at home in Philly than I do Pittsburgh.  I don't give two craps about sports.  But they have different ways out there, which is fine, but they're not kind about it if you're out there visiting and unaware.  I had a boss that was in this area from Greensburg because her husband was transferred to a facility nearby.  She complained constantly about how much our area sucked, how much better Greensburg/Pittsburgh area was, and made fun of everything we did, what we had to eat, the way we talked (when she had far more oddball terms, mannerisms, etc)…..  I've never experienced that with anyone from the Philly area.  I lived in NE Ohio for a few years, and love the Cleveland area.  

A friend of mine who also posts here asked what my screenname was here - she initially thought *I* was @funky-rat (high praise, I told her!) and wow, are we the same person? I lived in NEOhio too before I moved here to Central PA.  

[funky-rat]

9 minutes ago, ALittleShelfish said:

A friend of mine who also posts here asked what my screenname was here - she initially thought *I* was @funky-rat (high praise, I told her!) and wow, are we the same person? I lived in NEOhio too before I moved here to Central PA.  

LOL!  I lived in NEO for 2 years - early 90's.  I lived in Youngstown and my husband lived in one of Cleveland's north 'burbs (Lakewood).  You live in the HBG area, right?  I'm about 45 minutes north, and slightly east.  :D

[ALittleShelfish]

Just now, funky-rat said:

LOL!  I lived in NEO for 2 years - early 90's.  I lived in Youngstown and my husband lived in one of Cleveland's north 'burbs (Lakewood).  You live in the HBG area, right?  I'm about 45 minutes north, and slightly east.  :D

Crazy! I was born in Lakewood.  Moved around a lot, moved back to downtown CLE before I moved here to HBG.  A friend of mine worked with S1's Mike's sister (I think it was the sister) and has nothing but lovely things to say about them - and that the family got a terrrrrible edit bc they're all pretty supportive of it all.  Skeptical at first, but supportive.  Finding out about that made me come back to the show (I skipped Danielle's season) and I've never been more proud of where I live to see that we have ....Ashley to brag about LOL.  Yeah maybe I need to find better reality shows. 

OH! I went to TWO bars that I thought could have been the one she worked in.  One was definitely not, the other might be - the bartender we talked to said they have two blonde bartenders named Ashley and not only seemed not into small talk of any sort with us, but I really didn't want to give away I'm a reality show nerd. (Esp this show.  We also are home to a Bachelorette contestant, a coworker's friend, and he's so normal...)  

[funky-rat]

10 minutes ago, ALittleShelfish said:

Skeptical at first, but supportive.  Finding out about that made me come back to the show (I skipped Danielle's season) and I've never been more proud of where I live to see that we have ....Ashley to brag about LOL.  Yeah maybe I need to find better reality shows. 

Don't forget Narkiya and Lowo, the Nigerian Prince, lol!

[eatsleep]

15 hours ago, Neurochick said:

Maybe I’m confused but what was Larissa’s problem with Colt and Debbie’s house?  It was a normal two bedroom, two bathroom home.  Also there is nothing wrong with being thrifty.  Maybe some people in this country wouldn’t be so much in debt if they learned not to spend money on everything they wanted.  

I think it's actually 3 bedroom. Two bedroom, two story homes from that period are pretty rare. Nice home IMO. But it does look a bit tight for newlyweds + mom. I would want bigger, too if I had to live w/ a MIL (and cats I didn't want). She just shouldn't have mentioned it. I'm sure she knew what she was getting into before she came. Once she is married, working and contributing, it's reasonable to discuss it, I think. Until then, it's still "their" house and she is just a demanding guest.

 

4 hours ago, Spike said:

Ingredients = cube steak, canned mushy carrots, potatoes past their sell-by date with those little green sprouts growing out of them, and McCormick beef gravy powder.  Or maybe it’s just Dinty Moore with a dollop of a Debbie secret ingredient like mayo.  They didn’t show us the strawberry jello mold with fruit cocktail inside.

Ugh, do ppl actually make it that way?? Colt should have just asked on the way home from the airport what she wanted and brought it home for all three of them. And the fridge should have been stocked the day before with things she likes.

[funky-rat]

16 minutes ago, eatsleep said:

Ugh, do ppl actually make it that way?? Colt should have just asked on the way home from the airport what she wanted and brought it home for all three of them. And the fridge should have been stocked the day before with things she likes.

I think they're being sarcastic.  I make mine with baby potatoes (I cut them in half and leave the skin on), diced carrots, celery, and onions, and a good beef roast that I cook all day until it falls apart.  I do cheat and use Cambpell's Beef Stew base - it's not dried - it comes as a liquid, but I could make my own base if I wanted to.  The issue is generally that I'm making it in the crock pot and not home, so I don't have to worry about the not turning out right.  And it will get me the side eye, but I don't mind Dinty Moore beef stew.  Guilty pleasure.  We tear up slightly stale bread and line the bottom of the bowl before dishing it out.