Amber: A Rill Woman Goes to Gel

[druzy]

I think the producers contacted the cast when the tapes were leaked and told them exactly what to tweet regarding their support for Amber. MTV intervened before any of these idiots got defensive and tweeted that they had to support Amber because they were under contract to film the MTV segment. They all got paid to film that segment including Amber. Yet once again MTV rewarding Amber for her bad behavior.  The first class travel and accommodations for Cate, Cheyenne and Maci were also paid for by MTV. I wonder how Amber is going to react to all of the audio leaks and her "friends" turning on her when she finally wakes up. I guess we will have to wait a few more days.

Amber should have been fired after taking a swing at Farrah. I'll post this video, once again, as a reminder that Amber has continued to be violent without any repercussions. MTV said Farrah wasn't good for their brand, but apparently Amber is MTV's Brand Ambassador. 

Edited September 15, 2019 by druzy

[kaydub]

49 minutes ago, druzy said:

I think the producers contacted the cast when the tapes were leaked and told them exactly what to tweet regarding their support for Amber. MTV intervened before any of these idiots got defensive and tweeted that they had to support Amber because they were under contract to film the MTV segment. They all got paid to film that segment including Amber. Yet once again MTV rewarding Amber for her bad behavior.  The first class travel and accommodations for Cate, Cheyenne and Maci were also paid for by MTV. I wonder how Amber is going to react to all of the audio leaks and her "friends" turning on her when she finally wakes up. I guess we will have to wait a few more days.

Amber should have been fired after taking a swing at Farrah. I'll post this video, once again, as a reminder that Amber has continued to be violent without any repercussions. MTV said Farrah wasn't good for their brand, but apparently Amber is MTV's Brand Ambassador. 

who are the two dudes fighting after amber initially got dragged off? like when one got shoved into the audience and fell over? i stopped watching this show years ago, way before matt and even simon (that's simon, right? on stage with farrah?) came on, so i've no idea who half the people on the shows are anymore.

[Jeanne222]

1 hour ago, druzy said:

I think the producers contacted the cast when the tapes were leaked and told them exactly what to tweet regarding their support for Amber. MTV intervened before any of these idiots got defensive and tweeted that they had to support Amber because they were under contract to film the MTV segment. They all got paid to film that segment including Amber. Yet once again MTV rewarding Amber for her bad behavior.  The first class travel and accommodations for Cate, Cheyenne and Maci were also paid for by MTV. I wonder how Amber is going to react to all of the audio leaks and her "friends" turning on her when she finally wakes up. I guess we will have to wait a few more days.

Amber should have been fired after taking a swing at Farrah. I'll post this video, once again, as a reminder that Amber has continued to be violent without any repercussions. MTV said Farrah wasn't good for their brand, but apparently Amber is MTV's Brand Ambassador. 

Amber should have been fired immediately after that performance!  Who does she think she is???

The two men fighting are Ambers boyfriend Matt and Farrahs dad Michael!

[LotusFlower]

2 hours ago, druzy said:

2 hours ago, druzy said:

I think the producers contacted the cast when the tapes were leaked and told them exactly what to tweet regarding their support for Amber.

Yes, I pointed this out earlier - notice they all said the same thing: I’m sad, I’m heartbroken, I hope THEY get the help they need....  (“they” is specifically used to deflect attn. away from Amber).  The show is in damage control mode, and the cast is in on it.  

[Jeanne222]

3 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

Yes, I pointed this out earlier - notice they all said the same thing: I’m sad, I’m heartbroken, I hope THEY get the help they need....  (“they” is specifically used to deflect attn. away from Amber).  The show is in damage control mode, and the cast is in on it.  

Once again save Amber!!!

[CouchTater]

God, Amber was an animal in the video above.  We didn't even need Andrew to produce audio of her out-of-control abuse.  That video provided all MTV should have needed to see.

Just to bring up the point again:  how does Amber's violence on film/audio rise above Farrah's fucking on camera?  

Ugh.  Amber is trash.  And Catelynn yelling from backstage?  Also trash.  Farrah?  Also trash.  Damn, I've lost steam now.  No one to root for....

Edited September 15, 2019 by CouchTater

[LotusFlower]

I read this on another site and I think it’s an excellent point: MTV runs anti-DV PSA’s after scenes showing DV or threats of violence or a cast member talking about DV.  How can they legitimately do this while employing Amber at the same time?  

[druzy]

4 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

I read this on another site and I think it’s an excellent point: MTV runs anti-DV PSA’s after scenes showing DV or threats of violence or a cast member talking about DV.  How can they legitimately do this while employing Amber at the same time?  

They have no shame.

[Jeanne222]

2 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

I read this on another site and I think it’s an excellent point: MTV runs anti-DV PSA’s after scenes showing DV or threats of violence or a cast member talking about DV.  How can they legitimately do this while employing Amber at the same time?  

They do this because the sponsors keep buying into it!  I think it was here somebody posted a list of sponsors with Procter and gamble heading the list.

lots of people make their living from this show as witnessed by all those on stage during the Farrah/Amber kerfukkle.

Like a merry go round. Teen moms, sponsors, employees!

[LotusFlower]

8 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

They do this because the sponsors keep buying into it!  I think it was here somebody posted a list of sponsors with Procter and gamble heading the list.

lots of people make their living from this show as witnessed by all those on stage during the Farrah/Amber kerfukkle.

Like a merry go round. Teen moms, sponsors, employees!

Yes, that’s why an advertiser boycott is so important.  

#FireAmberPortwood

#BoycottTeenMomOG

Everyone with a Twitter account, please participate!

[kaydub]

wow, back in the day. i remember this episode. she got all mad because she didn't have the stroller to go to something, and so she took sleeping leah out of her car seat and carried her in. i remember thinking "why didn't you just leave your sleeping baby in the car seat and carry the car seat in?!" it's not like it was a huge toddler 5 harness car seat or a booster seat!

Edited September 15, 2019 by kaydub

[kicksave]

16 hours ago, ghoulina said:

We need to start boycotting and writing to the advertisers again, as happened when David killed poor Nugget. 

You know, I agree but it pisses me off that we, the viewers, have to force MTV's hand to do the right thing and show some kind moral responsibility by firing someone who has time and time again over the last ten years, shown herself to be abusive and violent. 

10 hours ago, kaydub said:

wow, back in the day. i remember this episode. she got all mad because she didn't have the stroller to go to something, and so she took sleeping leah out of her car seat and carried her in. i remember thinking "why didn't you just leave your sleeping baby in the car seat and carry the car seat in?!" it's not like it was a huge toddler 5 harness car seat or a booster seat!

Great flashback! You can see how much cosmetic work she's had done looking at this photo! Wow!

Edited September 16, 2019 by kicksave

[kicksave]

4 hours ago, druzy said:

I think the producers contacted the cast when the tapes were leaked and told them exactly what to tweet regarding their support for Amber. MTV intervened before any of these idiots got defensive and tweeted that they had to support Amber because they were under contract to film the MTV segment. They all got paid to film that segment including Amber. Yet once again MTV rewarding Amber for her bad behavior.  The first class travel and accommodations for Cate, Cheyenne and Maci were also paid for by MTV. I wonder how Amber is going to react to all of the audio leaks and her "friends" turning on her when she finally wakes up. I guess we will have to wait a few more days.

Amber should have been fired after taking a swing at Farrah. I'll post this video, once again, as a reminder that Amber has continued to be violent without any repercussions. MTV said Farrah wasn't good for their brand, but apparently Amber is MTV's Brand Ambassador. 

OMG! I forgot about this incident...What I find interesting about this is that Amber is all category 5 shit storm about Farrah saying something derogatory about Matt and comes out to verbally and physically fight Farrah over him and a year later, she was coming after Matt and verbally and physically attacking him. Also, where the hell was Security during this altercation? They sent a some of the production team out there to handle WWE Amber? Farrah looked awful here...all full of fillers and blown up lips...huge implants too...Simon was a creep. Glad we don't have to see him anymore.

[geauxaway]

15 minutes ago, kicksave said:

You know, I agree but it pisses me off that we, the viewers, have to force MTV's hand to the right thing and show some kind moral responsibility by firing someone who has time and time again over the last ten years, shown herself to be abusive and violent

I’m with you.  I don’t have the time or energy to stay on these sponsors and I really shouldn’t have to.  It’s the last thing I want to be doing with my precious free time.  

[druzy]

According to this blogger Amber was fired. For anyone waiting for The Ashley to confirm it, she is waiting for Viacom to make the announcement then she will write her "Exclusive".

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Edited September 16, 2019 by druzy

[druzy]

[dariafan]

I hope it’s true.  She needs to go.   

[DangerousMinds]

9 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

They do this because the sponsors keep buying into it!  I think it was here somebody posted a list of sponsors with Procter and gamble heading the list.

lots of people make their living from this show as witnessed by all those on stage during the Farrah/Amber kerfukkle.

Like a merry go round. Teen moms, sponsors, employees!

And the sponsors keep buying into it because people keep watching.Just saying.

Edited September 16, 2019 by DangerousMinds

[LotusFlower]

4 hours ago, druzy said:

According to this blogger Amber was fired

Guys, I think this reporter is credible.  (And Andrew obviously leaked the audio recording to her).

This is great news.

[kicksave]

4 hours ago, druzy said:

This is just awful...what an angry, abusive bully she is...so I guess she really didn't want the baby but thought it would make for an interesting storyline for the show? The threats to stab him, kill him and then the abusive derogatory language at him is just as bad. She is disgusting. She should never have shared custody of James and should only see him in supervised settings. Give her a couple of years and she won't even care about seeing him anymore. She doesn't have mental illnesses...she's just an angry, hostile, aggressive bully. Deal with that Dr. Drew. I hope she goes to prison for this and has to share a cell with a someone equally or even worse than her.

[SuzWhat]

On 9/14/2019 at 10:06 PM, druzy said:

Matt Baier contacted that blogger. Wasn't he defending Amber a few months ago?

I'm in the middle of watching this so you don't have to and the blogger said that Matt lied to TMZ about Amber's recent DV arrest out of loyalty. He felt he had to protect her.🙄 However, when he listened to the tapes he had flashbacks and started shaking uncontrollably and needed to speak out against dv. He also blamed Amber for the "lies" that were spread about him. That's all I listened to so far. 

You continue to do God's work, @druzy

[dariafan]

Who is going to pay for her child therapy now !

[Lastwaltz]

Has the goddess herself made any statements about this? Is she sedated or did they take her devices away? 

[druzy]

1 minute ago, Lastwaltz said:

Has the goddess herself made any statements about this? Is she sedated or did they take her devices away? 

She's still sleeping.

[Lastwaltz]

Just now, druzy said:

She's still sleeping.

Yikes. I bet I'll hear her wake up all the way here in Boston. 

[druzy]

Throwback tweet by Amber's brother saying Matt doesn't know anything and praising Andrew

[Brooklynista]

54 minutes ago, druzy said:

Throwback tweet by Amber's brother saying Matt doesn't know anything and praising Andrew

🤦‍♀️ oh Bubby you little scamp.  Will you ever learn?

Seriously, is this guy on Amber's payroll?  One thing we are proud of in my family is how we call each other out on our bullshit. Amber's antics would never fly.  

[Snarky McSnarky]

2 hours ago, dariafan said:

Who is going to pay for her child therapy now !

Maybe it's just me, but that dude reminds me of Henry Gibson (from Laugh-In for you youngsters).

[TVjunkie03]

On 9/13/2019 at 2:04 PM, druzy said:

STFU catelynn... bitch, your fat ass isn’t any better. You take off to the spa every single time life gets hard. You have made your poor little daughter anxious and insecure because you constantly leave her all the time. Your new baby isn’t even 6 mos yet but your pathetic ass went on your MTV “girls trip” to try to fit in with the “cool girls” you’re disgusting and shouldn’t  be judging anyone. This is all coming from someone who HATES amber, but I hate hypocritical people even more. This lazy fat bitch also lays all day on a couch and has her husband do the parenting, cleaning, etc. She has a lot of nerve speaking out now, but was at the courthouse defending this trash bag just a few mos ago. Get off social media you fucking imbecile! Go take care of the children you have that you constantly leave with two drug addicts, your mom and butch. Rant over. 

Edited September 16, 2019 by TVjunkie03
Typo

[hoosier80]

Oh, let me guess about Amber's response.  It's due to her anxiety.

As soon as they do anything violent (aside from self defense), the Teen Moms, their SO, their family need to be fired.  

This chick will be in deep doo doo once those checks stop coming from MTV.  Criminal background, no discernable skills, and the anger. Not anxiety, but ANGER ISSUES.  Who in their right mind would hire her?

[kicksave]

1 hour ago, druzy said:

Throwback tweet by Amber's brother saying Matt doesn't know anything and praising Andrew

Her brother is the biggest enabler of them all...

3 minutes ago, hoosier80 said:

Oh, let me guess about Amber's response.  It's due to her anxiety.

As soon as they do anything violent (aside from self defense), the Teen Moms, their SO, their family need to be fired.  

This chick will be in deep doo doo once those checks stop coming from MTV.  Criminal background, no discernable skills, and the anger. Not anxiety, but ANGER ISSUES.  Who in their right mind would hire her?

She's never worked a day in her life! She has no employable skills and I may be wrong, but I think she doesn't even have her GED. 

[druzy]

4 minutes ago, hoosier80 said:

Oh, let me guess about Amber's response.  It's due to her anxiety.

As soon as they do anything violent (aside from self defense), the Teen Moms, their SO, their family need to be fired.  

This chick will be in deep doo doo once those checks stop coming from MTV.  Criminal background, no discernable skills, and the anger. Not anxiety, but ANGER ISSUES.  Who in their right mind would hire her?

She can find a boyfriend on Meet-An-Inmate.com and appear on Love After Lockup. 

[kicksave]

24 minutes ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

Maybe it's just me, but that dude reminds me of Henry Gibson (from Laugh-In for you youngsters).

😂🤣

[kicksave]

On 9/14/2019 at 11:19 PM, geauxaway said:

You would have thought GEL would have done that to her, though.  Lawd knows it straightened me the F up.  I still get the shudders when I think of ever having to be incarcerated again, even if just for one day.  It’s excrutiating!  

She, along with all of these girls (yes even perfect Chelsea and functioning alcoholic Maci) could use a good dose of tough love and the real world.  Some more than others, still.  NO ONE  has ever said the word NO to these girls.  They are the worst kid of bratty teens but going on 30.  Sadly, for most of them, their parents and family won’t say boo because they are living off the gravy train, too.

Amber needs seven to eight years of hard time in a state prison...not drug addiction jail...prison. She might end up getting hard prison time for this since Indiana is a three strike state and she has two strikes already. We'll see how good her army of lawyers are...the ones she was bragging about that would wipe Andrew out.

[LotusFlower]

19 hours ago, druzy said:

According to this blogger Amber was fired. For anyone waiting for The Ashley to confirm it, she is waiting for Viacom to make the announcement then she will write her "Exclusive".

The other blogger said the same thing (an announcement from Viacom is due), but will they necessarily make one?  Did they make an announcement when they fired Jenelle?  I seem to remember they alluded to no longer filming with Jenelle, but they only said this in response to press inquiries.  Nothing formal.  And to this day, they’ve never given a reason.  

Which makes sense, because they’d rather cast new people and keep the train moving, without calling any attention to the deadbeat cast full of drug addicts, abusers and porn stars.

[geauxaway]

31 minutes ago, hoosier80 said:

Oh, let me guess about Amber's response.  It's due to her anxiety.

As soon as they do anything violent (aside from self defense), the Teen Moms, their SO, their family need to be fired.  

This chick will be in deep doo doo once those checks stop coming from MTV.  Criminal background, no discernable skills, and the anger. Not anxiety, but ANGER ISSUES.  Who in their right mind would hire her?

Oh she will never get a job.  She’s gonna ride the SSI train.

Wait, I thought she was making thousands a day as a day trader???

[ghoulina]

6 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

Wait, I thought she was making thousands a day as a day trader???

That was only threw Andrew and his mad skills. Without him, she's SOL. Also - will be losing out on reading The New Yorker and eat some fabulous charcuterie boards. 

[druzy]

5 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

Oh she will never get a job.  She’s gonna ride the SSI train.

Wait, I thought she was making thousands a day as a day trader???

According to her Twitter post dated 5/21/16 she owns a real estate business and we are ignorant jackasses! 

[Brooklynista]

Just now, ghoulina said:

That was only threw Andrew and his mad skills. Without him, she's SOL. Also - will be losing out on reading The New Yorker and eat some fabulous charcuterie boards. 

From the manor born charcuterie boards to 2 for $5 Lunchables. Sugar to shit as my mother would say.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

On 9/14/2019 at 3:36 PM, dariafan said:

Why is bubba’s defense always he was provoking her ?  I don’t see it.  Apparently all it takes to provoke her is to be standing up and breathing 

On 9/14/2019 at 1:01 AM, kicksave said:

This is typical language of abusive enablers...”she was provoked” we’ve all heard this from men who blame their abuse on a woman provoking them. 

THANK YOU! I am so sick of people excusing abusers' behaviors with "she/he was provoked." In real life, people could "provoke" me every damn day - the neighbor cutting their lawn at 6am when I'm trying to get 30 more minutes of sleep; the older lady who is slowly writing a check at the grocery store while I'm in line behind her and late to pick up my kids from daycare; people who park in handicapped spaces but don't have handicap tags; traffic/drivers in general; my husband not replacing the toilet paper after he used the last of it, etc, etc.  But I learned as a child that you can't "be provoked" by people in the real world. You have to check your emotions and behave maturely (and lots of the time that just means asking yourself "In the grand scheme of life, is this all that important relative to how angry I am?" or "Is this even worth my energy to be upset about?").  You check your emotions, behave like an adult, and go on your way....or else everything and every person could potentially provoke you.

Even if someone does "provoke" you, your actions are still your own.  You may not have control over how something makes you feel, but you do control your response to those feelings.   In real life, you grow the F up and learn how to regulate the responses to your emotions.  Amber never learned emotional regulation.  Amber never learned that how she chooses to respond to someone/something that "provokes" her is totally on her.  She is the only one with the power to make her respond one way or another.  If people can't learn this, then they really can't adult (I know sometimes we all slip up and react in ways that we aren't proud of, but I'm sure most of us know those reactions weren't great & we are embarrassed about it. And while cursing in traffic or flipping off someone who cuts you off may be mistakes we make, most of us don't react by physically/emotionally abusing a partner who is holding our child because we know that's a wildly inappropriate response to basically anything.)  Amber's reactions are entirely on her, no matter how she was "provoked."  Life in general is damn provoking - add in an infant and even more so.  Amber is almost 30 but has less emotional regulation than my (almost) 5 year old. 

Everyone can miss me with this "he provoked her" nonsense. We are all provoked by something/someone or multiple things/people every damn day, but almost all of us have figured out by our late 20s how to regulate our responses to all the shit and shitty people in life. 

41 minutes ago, kicksave said:

Her brother is the biggest enabler of them all...

She's never worked a day in her life! She has no employable skills and I may be wrong, but I think she doesn't even have her GED. 

I'm 100% with you that Amber is unemployable and has no skills (and would make a terrible employee because of her nasty attitude, lack of work ethic, violent temper, reality TV "stardom" chip on her shoulder, and because she considers 2pm to be too early to get out of bed), but Amber did finish her GED when she was in prison.  I think she was only able to do it because prison was such a controlled, highly scheduled environment - she had the structure there for her to stick with it (and what else was she going to do in gel?).  I will say at least she did finish/pass her GED, even if it took gel to get her to do it.  Casey Anthony, for example, spent two years in gel and still couldn't be assed to get her GED (she was a high school drop out her senior year).  So good for Amber on that, I guess.  Maybe this time in prison she can work towards some sort of tech school like training and come out with some kind of skill (although I still don't think she'd last long in the real world with a job, but at least she'd have some kind of skill). 

ETA: Sorry for ranting!

Edited September 16, 2019 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[ghoulina]

1 minute ago, Brooklynista said:

From the manor born charcuterie boards to 2 for $5 Lunchables. Sugar to shit as my mother would say.

Maybe Leah (Messer-Sims-Calver, not Shirley) can give her the hookup on the best gas stations to get your Lunchables at. 

[kicksave]

37 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

THANK YOU! I am so sick of people excusing abusers' behaviors with "she/he was provoked." In real life, people could "provoke" me every damn day - the neighbor cutting their lawn at 6am when I'm trying to get 30 more minutes of sleep; the older lady who is slowly writing a check at the grocery store while I'm in line behind her and late to pick up my kids from daycare; people who park in handicapped spaces but don't have handicap tags; traffic/drivers in general; my husband not replacing the toilet paper after he used the last of it, etc, etc.  But I learned as a child that you can't "be provoked" by people in the real world. You have to check your emotions and behave maturely (and lots of the time that just means asking yourself "In the grand scheme of life, is this all that important relative to how angry I am?" or "Is this even worth my energy to be upset about?").  You check your emotions, behave like an adult, and go on your way....or else everything and every person could potentially provoke you.

Even if someone does "provoke" you, your actions are still your own.  You may not have control over how something makes you feel, but you do control your response to those feelings.   In real life, you grow the F up and learn how to regulate the responses to your emotions.  Amber never learned emotional regulation.  Amber never learned that how she chooses to respond to someone/something that "provokes" her is totally on her.  She is the only one with the power to make her respond one way or another.  If people can't learn this, then they really can't adult (I know sometimes we all slip up and react in ways that we aren't proud of, but I'm sure most of us know those reactions weren't great & we are embarrassed about it. And while cursing in traffic or flipping off someone who cuts you off may be mistakes we make, most of us don't react by physically/emotionally abusing a partner who is holding our child because we know that's a wildly inappropriate response to basically anything.)  Amber's reactions are entirely on her, no matter how she was "provoked."  Life in general is damn provoking - add in an infant and even more so.  Amber is almost 30 but has less emotional regulation than my (almost) 5 year old. 

Everyone can miss me with this "he provoked her" nonsense. We are all provoked by something/someone or multiple things/people every damn day, but almost all of us have figured out by our late 20s how to regulate our responses to all the shit and shitty people in life. 

I'm 100% with you that Amber is unemployable and has no skills (and would make a terrible employee because of her nasty attitude, lack of work ethic, violent temper, reality TV "stardom" chip on her shoulder, and because she considers 2pm to be too early to get out of bed), but Amber did finish her GED when she was in prison.  I think she was only able to do it because prison was such a controlled, highly scheduled environment - she had the structure there for her to stick with it (and what else was she going to do in gel?).  I will say at least she did finish/pass her GED, even if it took gel to get her to do it.  Casey Anthony, for example, spent two years in gel and still couldn't be assed to get her GED (she was a high school drop out her senior year).  So good for Amber on that, I guess.  Maybe this time in prison she can work towards some sort of tech school like training and come out with some kind of skill (although I still don't think she'd last long in the real world with a job, but at least she'd have some kind of skill). 

ETA: Sorry for ranting!

No problem...thanks for correcting me on the GED thing. I forgot about her getting her GED in jail. At least she did get it...though I don't think it will help her too much in her search for even a minimum wage job at this point in her life. My guess is that after she gets out of prison, if she does go, she will get some sort of book deal and will go on the road promoting the book as a "redemption" book tour. At this point I don't care what she does as long as she stays away from her kids unless it's in a well supervised setting. 

I would like to add that the damage she has done to Leah makes me take pause...she's at an age where she understands everything that is going on and probably most of her peers are on social media and other websites and know about her mom. This is devastating to a girl her age...I am thankful that she has a great step mom in Christina and Gary seems to be doing the right things in recent years. The best thing for this family to do is quit the show and have a normal family life that isn't in the cross hairs of cameras and other media distractions. I really feel for Leah...she deserves better for a biological mother.

[druzy]

[4Sibes Redux]

4 hours ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

Maybe it's just me, but that dude reminds me of Henry Gibson (from Laugh-In for you youngsters).

It’s not just you. I was too dainty to mention it. Lol. 

[toodywoody]

5 hours ago, druzy said:

According to her Twitter post dated 5/21/16 she owns a real estate business and we are ignorant jackasses! 

Omg learn to spell you're. For being soooooo classy and soooooo great you would think that her time in gel would have taught her that.

5 hours ago, druzy said:

According to her Twitter post dated 5/21/16 she owns a real estate business and we are ignorant jackasses! 

Omg learn to spell you're. For being soooooo classy and soooooo great you would think that her time in gel would have taught her that.

I still cant get over how she turns it off and on just proving that most of us were right that it wasn't her disease. I don't care how they try to spin it, I haven't watched since the Farrah almost fight and I will not watch a fucking show with her on it at all. Fuck her.

Edited September 16, 2019 by toodywoody

[hoosier80]

So Amber is a slumlord?  Or she just invested in some company that a relative came up with - thinking of that First Time Flippers show.

Who would buy any real estate from her (or her company)?

It'd be better if she opened a bed and sofa shop.  She could at least rate the products.

Just googled and saw she had companies listed under Forever Haute - all of which look to be kaput now.

[geauxaway]

She and Matt had that one flip (flop?) house and since then she acted like they were Chip and Joanna Gaines.   

There was also her plan to open sober living housing.   🤣

[druzy]

27 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

She and Matt had that one flip (flop?) house and since then she acted like they were Chip and Joanna Gaines.   

There was also her plan to open sober living housing.   🤣

😂

[Enya Face]

On 9/14/2019 at 12:52 PM, FairyDusted said:

I'm not going to judge him for his tone. I tend to do the same same in arguments (admittedly small) because if someone is upset and loud I'm not helping the situation raising my voice. MOST OF THE TIME.

Now I've been married for decades and my husband is very calm but if he's upset about something I keep it cool. To people listening it might appear that I don't care. Not true. 

I do the same. When shit would get really fucking nuts when I was younger, it was almost a soothing, trance of calm I’d go into when everyone around me was off their tits. I care a lot, but I also know that my being flat can be the difference between shit going really bad, and shit getting really ugly.

[druzy]

This is Andrew's response to Shawn's tweets:

Edited September 17, 2019 by druzy