Season 2 Discussion

[RedBagWithMakeup]

@Toaster Strudel, your reviews have become the highlight of my week(after the show of course). I'm laughing so hard my eyes filled with tears and my vision got blurry. 

I usually have snark vomit after watching this show, but I was actually speechless and dumbfounded by all of them tonight. 

Someone needs to give Darcey and Jesse each a rubber chicken and let them smack each other silly. 

Angela.....all I can think of is that Danielle seems like a sane and classy person in comparison. I can only imagine what the film crew was thinking the whole time. Production, if course, was thinking "ka-ching $$$$".Angela is Jerry Springer meets 90DF.

[charmed1]

11 minutes ago, Splithair said:

Yes!  What the hell is a bias??

You would know if you worked in a restaurant. Like Darcy. Did you know she worked in a restaurant? Spoiler alert: she worked in a restaurant.

[Kangatush]

Tarik and Hazel:  Damn it Dean.  I had such hopes for you to burst your brother's bubble.  But you went too low.  You should have questioned the love, not her ability to parent.  Making a difficult choice, in the best interest of your child, does show your character.  In that respect, she's solid.  What she really wants from Tarik is the way in.

Ricky and Ximena:  OK, I think we all agree he's an idiot if he mentions the Melissa debacle, but since the genius is on a tv show, she'll find out any ways.  Which is too bad since she seems like a normal woman who inexplicably actually likes him.  If he calls himself a "gentleman" one more time while acting any way but, I' going to be sending him psychic throat punches.

Jon and Rachael:  50 or 60 fights and he somehow never started any?  Where does he live, the Thunderdome?  I'd be pushing him a lot more on why that behavior before committing to him.

Angela and Michael:  Oh Ang, I so wanted to like you, but you've killed it.  You can't have an actual conversation to save your life.  I understand, you're probably having extreme nicotine withdrawals, so go smoke and come back rational.

Jesse and Darcey:  He nailed her wanting to appear like an awesome mom.  But I'm over the two of them.  Want to place bets on which daughter will leave home, like Olivia, because she's sick of taking care of mom?

Karine and Pole:  I really don't like how he's now being painted as an abusive douche.  Idiot, yes, impatient with Karine and her lazy ass, yes, abusive?  I'm not willing to say yes.

[Splithair]

I think I wore that same shirt that Tarik was wearing when I was in 5th grade, over a white t-shirt, circa 1994.

36 minutes ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

I’m sure in XXXimena’s line of work, she’s been called various names by mistake and probably couldn’t care less, as long the money is on the nightstand. 

Really?  I didn't get that vibe from her at all.  Melissa, yes, but not Ximena.

[islandgal140]

55 minutes ago, monagatuna said:

I'm rooting for Hazel. She seems genuine, honest, and hardworking, weird religious stuff notwithstanding.

I am really wondering ... Does Tarik expect hot, explosive sexy times with Hazel? She doesn't strike me as a sexual being AT. ALL.  I don't really think she is facially pretty but she does have beautiful lips. 

Dean was way out of line! I wouldn't fault him for questioning if Hazel really loves his brother and if she is using him as a way to escape poverty but questioning her devotion as a mother because she doesn't have custody when he knows none of the facts - completely and totally an asshole move.

Big Ang and Maga Mike are making this season for me. How can you reason with a person whose standard of dressing well is if it doesn't get her featured on People of Walmart website than her ass looks goodt!

It is so obvious that Karine's parents love her profoundly and want the best for her but it is also obvious that this is her only chance for a decent life not mired in soul crushing poverty and struggle so they are just gonna go with it. Seriously, I know she was young when Pyro Paul honed in on her but what options did she have? Was she in school? Learning a trade? She was on her way to nowhere , which is probably why S1 they allowed the mute weirdo who they just met to take their 18 year old daughter to a hotel within minutes of meeting.

The way Karine described Paul at that sit down with her parents and that translator was nothing short of fucked up! He is just as screwy and mental as I imagined. He is a 20/20 or Dateline special just waiting to happen. Classic controlling abuser. 

The only time a person should be involved in 50-60 fights is if they are competing for the Golden Glove championship. And he allegedly never started any of them but it sounds like he damn near finished them. I guess he is the very definition of 'don't start none, won't be none!' Him vs a gang of college students made him sound like Jackie Chan. 

Jon chose his more respectable friends to introduce to Rachel. LOL!!! It is funny though that they weren't saying anything different from any of his other friends.  If all his friends, his mother and his sister say that he is pretty much an irresponsible manwhore who loves to drink and fight than I am apt to believe them!

I now firmly believe that Darcy didn't lose all that weight from exercising and eating right, she just hasn't sat down and had a proper meal since she met Jesse because they start bickering and abandon their plates.  

Just in case nobody knows this but Jesse really, really hates Bullshit, which I believe now is a synonym for Darcy. 

Edited September 3, 2018 by islandgal140

[charmed1]

18 minutes ago, Kangatush said:

Jesse and Darcey:  He nailed her wanting to appear like an awesome mom.

Yes he did. She was all, “Oh kids, I want to make sure you guys are fed, okay?” “I know how my kids like their food!” The kids were sitting there like, “Who is this pod person?”

[DaphneCat]

Couple of things about this episode.  When Angela was arguing about her shirt with Michael in the hotel she mentioned that he had told her that she needed to be more covered up in Nigeria.  She insisted he only told her she needed to cover her legs and wasn't really letting him get a word in edgewise.  He was clearly trying to remind her of something he said.  I think he told her that she needed to be more modest in general and DID mention the cleavage.  She simply chose to not hear it.  Otherwise, why was she at least making an attempt to cover up a little more when she went to meet mom?  And the pinkish top with the lace that she wears in her THs is certainly more covered than many of her other tops.  She was just pissed Michael did not want her to meet his friends wearing her "hot" outfit.

Did anyone else notice when Karine was trying on the wedding dresses she was almost cradling her stomach?  It seemed like a weird gesture and really caught my eye.  It was like she was making sure the bump wasn't obvious.

[Toaster Strudel]

Did BackupXimena really fly to meet up with 5'6" (I'm not sure if he meant width , circumference, or 5 foot tall with a 6 inch dick) PenisBrainRicky? Or is the luggage containing everything she'll need for immediate and permanent departure to America?

She didn't glance at his ample, cereal box physique for a second. She was all business. Petals, chocolates, wine, check. OK let's go go go. Cut the gentleman crap and let's shag. She has only 10 days and she needs to make him totally addicted to her. She won't care about that other chick. She'll gladly accept a ring intended for another thot if it means she can get a K1.

I'm no fan of Ricky. He went to meet the "love of his life" and propose, but when she didn't respond enthusiastically to being stalked every hour after sending a strong message showing up 5 hours late, he just went, F that, I got myself a back up, let's see how it goes. He doesn't care who he brings home as long "she's so hot." What a gentleman! What a hopeless romantic!

'RoidRageDean. That's all I have to say about him. Actually that's not true. He was furious at "hello." The monster asks Hazel a question that causes her pain, and to shut down, and he responds by going HULK SMASH! on her. It's no surprise she ran away, most people would have, and Hazel looks 90 lbs. Dean's baseline anger level is not natural. Imagine the Godzilla-level mayhem this intimidating meat-bag of synthetic hormones is going to inflict on Manila when he realizes he flew 30 hours to speak to Hazel for 2 minutes and be shunned. For everyone's sake, let's hope he finds a gym, enough protein supplements, and an unscrupulous doctor.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Toaster Strudel

[Splithair]

35 minutes ago, DaphneCat said:

Did anyone else notice when Karine was trying on the wedding dresses she was almost cradling her stomach?  It seemed like a weird gesture and really caught my eye.  It was like she was making sure the bump wasn't obvious.

 Yep, I noticed it too.

[Boofish]

Perhaps Dean should go back to the States and yell those same questions to the mother of his brothers child. Him, his brother and their Fat Albert starter pack bodies are gross.

[RedBagWithMakeup]

Yeah, Dean seems to have one emotion - furious. I got a vibe that he had had one too many beers, possibly. (And by "one", I mean at least 6.)

[Jennifersdc]

4 hours ago, PityFree said:

Oh my God every couple on the show is insane. That was a very painful episode. 

You probably don’t have your Handbasket to Hell completely fitted out yet.

It was awesome.

As in noted above Darcey mutilating the steak with the B&B dull knife...in Jesse’s defense (ugh) the steak looked an OK medium rare (I’m a rare girl) - so he likely could have handled the situation. 

Edited September 3, 2018 by Jennifersdc
Edited to add - options for cooking steak with B&B options were probably limited. I use my cast iron pan at high heat and finish in oven.

[millennium]

2 hours ago, iwasish said:

Darcy “worked in a restaurant “

A Dunkin Donuts in Massapequa would be my guess.

Far too little Darcy/Jesse tonight, and way too much Pole/Karine.   There was one segment that consisted of nothing but Karini expressing the same doubt about Pole in ten different ways, always capped off with "But Pole says he will change."   Change what?  Stop nagging you to get off your puffy, pimpled ass and do the dishes?  Or to clean up?   Stop nagging you to get off social media?   Stop complaining that you're flirting with other men online?   Should Pole just smile when you call him an idiot all the time?

I don't even like Pole but come on.    It amazes me that Karine could grow up poor and still be a spoiled brat. 

Angela is one of the most repulsive women I have ever seen on television.   She kept challenging Michael like someone who'd been on Jerry Springer too many times.   When she accused him of not being "man enough" I thought for a sec he would slap her right in her fat face.    When Angela squeezed into the taxi,  I flashed back to the Flintstones when the drive-in waitress brings the order of brontosaurus ribs and the whole car flips on its side.   I prayed for the canopy bridge to break.   I wanted howler monkeys to swoop down and steal her hair extensions.   The only time I agreed with Angela is when she said people in America wouldn't look at her outfit and think she was a hooch -- but only because no one in his right mind would get a gander of those trail-worn dugs and associate them with sex.  

Dean, another Jerry Springer audition.    Rivaled in grotesqueness only by his bro Tariq puckering up like a cartoon character and telling Hazel, "Gimme some lips ..."

Ricky makes me sick.  "I love Melissa, I want her to marry me, she's the one ..." to "why should I spend a night alone?" in less than 24 hours.  Fucking pig.   You have to love it when these sluts (and I don't mean the women) trot out the "I want to do the gentlemanly thing ..." line.

Jon.  I'm thinking the majority of his 50-60 fights were with amusement park ride operators and instigated by the "You Must Be This Tall ..." sign.

At first I was perplexed by the sight of Commandant Jesse with sunglasses dangling from the neck of his shirt.   It was nighttime.  And why did it seem so familiar? 

[Lizzing]

3 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

One of the daughters, if not both, has a crush on Jesse and was giving him the googly eyes. All three are millenials, after all!

The oldest one is definitely giving him the googly eyes.  But, it's a bugaboo of mine, her daughters are Gen Z, not millenials.  Jesse is probably too young to be a millennial too, depending on whose dates you use. The point stands, though, that they're the same generation and momma Darcey is not.  I find it hilarious that the one thing that Jesse & Darcey have in common is that they like to storm out of rooms when food is ready.  It's absolutely the weirdest eccentricity to share.

And speaking of food, Michael & Gary Busey in drag Angela driving to the wildlife preserve eating pizza was also a bit of a WTF moment.  I mean, of course, there's no reason that pizza wouldn't be something you can get in Lagos, but it isn't the first thing I'd think of when there to get for (what appeared to be) a breakfast on the go.

Rickey and those booster boots...he's turning into Costanza.  Next week he'll color them black with a sharpie!

[Dobian]

Can't wait to see Ximena's reaction when she finds out she was Ricky's backup plan.  "He came all the way to Colombia to see me!"  Uh....sure.

[millennium]

5 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

WOW! I received an invitation to Tariq & Hazel's wedding!
    

 

I think Hazel misunderstood when her friend told her she ought to be "tartin' herself up" for Tariq.

[Major Bigtime]

4 hours ago, Kangatush said:

Karine and Pole:  I really don't like how he's now being painted as an abusive douche.  Idiot, yes, impatient with Karine and her lazy ass, yes, abusive?  I'm not willing to say yes.

Karine may have found out about Pole’s abusive past. She seems pretty Internet savvy, if she’s picking up all these men. All she’d have to do is Google Pole’s name and look at those mug shots.

There’s this one for violating a protection order:

 

And these beauties...

[noveltylibrary]

I seriously thought for a second Darcey was talking about other kids when she said they were 11 and 12.  I thought they were at least 16!! I didn't think she could make me sicker knowing she's pulling this ridiculous shit with such young kids at home.

Edited September 3, 2018 by noveltylibrary

[Neurochick]

I don’t get the hate for Dean when Hazel admitted she only wants Tarik to come to the US.  Hazel is a vampire.  She marries Tarik, first she brings her son over, then her parents, then maybe other relatives and Tarik will be the fool sponsoring all of them.  All this does is take away from his daughter.  I do not see Hazel as this poor innocent woman.  Just because she’s a woman doesn’t mean she doesn’t deserve an interrogation, especially when we all know she’s disgusted by Tarik.

[sconstant]

4 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

As in noted above Darcey mutilating the steak with the B&B dull knife...in Jesse’s defense (ugh) the steak looked an OK medium rare (I’m a rare girl) - so he likely could have handled the situation. 

Yeah, cooking steak in a glorified hotel room was the real root of this problem.  

Whatever you do at home to cook steak, people, you probably wouldn’t have hung out there all day (seriously, cooking and eating dinner was their whole plan for the day - CT only has one goat and when you’ve seen that you’re good?) without noticing that the stove was electric, there’s no functioning bbq, and that they have eight butter knives for your convenience.  After all that, and BestMamaEvir Darcey mentioning that her girls like chicken strips, of course in the end they realized “steak for dinner” was the best plan.  Because steak is the luxest of all meals, and Darcy is all about appearance-of-lux.  

[noveltylibrary]

What in the hell does Michael see in Angela?  He  couldn't just find a nice local girl who would respect him?

8 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

I don’t get the hate for Dean when Hazel admitted she only wants Tarik to come to the US.  Hazel is a vampire.  She marries Tarik, first she brings her son over, then her parents, then maybe other relatives and Tarik will be the fool sponsoring all of them.  All this does is take away from his daughter.  I do not see Hazel as this poor innocent woman.  Just because she’s a woman doesn’t mean she doesn’t deserve an interrogation, especially when we all know she’s disgusted by Tarik.

Because he was an ahole about it, and his true colors showed they way he stormed out.  He's scary.

[Kangatush]

1 hour ago, Major Bigtime said:

Karine may have found out about Pole’s abusive past. She seems pretty Internet savvy, if she’s picking up all these men. All she’d have to do is Google Pole’s name and look at those mug shots.

There’s this one for violating a protection order:

 

And these beauties...

Yeah, his arson stuff.  And he said the protection order violation was one text message.  Protection orders don't have to mean you're actually a bad person, they're easy to get.  And I never said he was a prince, with the arson and whatnot, but that's not being abusive.

8 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

I don’t get the hate for Dean when Hazel admitted she only wants Tarik to come to the US.  Hazel is a vampire.  She marries Tarik, first she brings her son over, then her parents, then maybe other relatives and Tarik will be the fool sponsoring all of them.  All this does is take away from his daughter.  I do not see Hazel as this poor innocent woman.  Just because she’s a woman doesn’t mean she doesn’t deserve an interrogation, especially when we all know she’s disgusted by Tarik.

She definitely deserves an interrogation.  My issue is that he chose to go after her for the totally wrong thing.  It's not about her parenting skills, it's about her desperation to get out of the Philippines, whatever the cost.

1 minute ago, noveltylibrary said:

What in the hell does Michael see in Angela?  He  couldn't just find a nice local girl who would respect him?

A local girl isn't a ticket to the US.

[noveltylibrary]

How sad to see Kreenee's mom crying at her dress.  And not tears of joy.

[Major Bigtime]

6 minutes ago, noveltylibrary said:

What in the hell does Michael see in Angela?  He  couldn't just find a nice local girl who would respect him?

He wants to go to the US, has nothing to do with romance.

[CoachWristletJen]

Okay I finally watched the confrontation scene with Hazel. (My husband was watching zombies on AMC while I was reading about it here.) 

I think Tarik's brother doesn't understand the cultural differences. In Hazel's culture, you just don't ask a virtual stranger "straight-up questions." You just don't pry into somebody's life that way. Hazel didn't answer the questions about her son because she was sketchy. She was simply unaccustomed to the approach.

As for the clothes at her ex boyfriend's house. He probably isn't an ex. Maybe she still lives there.

But the stuff about her son was just cruel. 

Tarik's brother also doesn't understand the abject poverty of Hazel's situation.

Maybe Hazel did just give up her son because she was young and he was an inconvenience.  Or, maybe the father was a domineering bastard. We just don't know.

And Tarik's brother was rude.

I get why he's concerned. Tarik is in a screwed up situation, and he's thinking with his dick. But that's on Tarik.

6 minutes ago, noveltylibrary said:

How sad to see Kreenee's mom crying at her dress.  And not tears of joy.

In Paul's apology scene I wanted to scream at her, "He's already aware that he mistreats you. He's not sorry about it. He won't change."

[Neurochick]

But Hazel is a user and if Tarik isn’t careful she’ll drain him and there will be nothing left for his daughter.  Come on, Hazel is not some innocent little flower.  She’s woman enough to get on the Internet to look for an American man.  Goodness, Dean was just being honest.  I’ll say it again, Hazel is a vampire and she’s fooling many with her act.

[Honey]

9 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

Dean just needs to accept the unholy alliance between Hazel and Tarik. She wants to get out of the country any way she can. He wants a smokin' hot chick who is half his age and way out of his league. Neither one of them is thinking about Tarik's autistic child. I'm wondering if they've given much thought to Hazel's son? Will he leave his father? Will his father even let him go? Will he stay in poverty in the Philippines? What will happen?

Then he better keep looking, because hazel is ugly as hell.

[noveltylibrary]

12 minutes ago, Major Bigtime said:

He wants to go to the US, has nothing to do with romance.

Well ok, but he couldn't find someone more tolerable?  She doesn't even have a nice personality to offset the age/looks.

[Quof]

7 hours ago, TheRedQueen said:

berating a young girl

She's a grown ass woman. 

[Honey]

9 hours ago, Kangatush said:

A note on steak.  "juice" is retained by letting it rest.  Cutting across the grain, whether or not at an angle, makes it more tender to eat.  

I think every one knows that, except those 2 idiots.

[noveltylibrary]

That steak scene put me over the edge with Darcey, she is so annoying.  She was so determined not to show a fight in front of the kids that she had to start one.  If I had to pick a side on this ship of fools I'm TeamJesse.

ps that steak looked like shit!  way to waste a ton of money at the butcher.

pps i'm pretty sure her kids couldn't give a crap if the steak was cut on a bias.

Edited September 3, 2018 by noveltylibrary

[Quof]

7 hours ago, TheRedQueen said:

bag of rose petals straight from a Harlequin romance novel. Btw I’ve never seen a bag of rose petals for sale. EVER. 

Maybe he took back the roses he bought for Melissa. 

[noveltylibrary]

2 minutes ago, Quof said:

She's a grown ass woman. 

She doesn't look it, and is half his size. He looked like a straight up ahole.

[JasonH]

Jessie saying “they aren’t my daughters” reminded me of The Royal Tenenbaums, where Royal always referred to Margot as his adopted daughter.

[Owwwww ma leg]

What is with the short wisps of hair along Jesses hair line. I don’t  know much about cooking steak but that looked awful. Darcey you stay in your lane 

Edited September 3, 2018 by Owwwww ma leg
Spelling as usual...darceys name

[noveltylibrary]

10 hours ago, Kangatush said:

I have never been to Africa, but this show makes me believe it makes your shoulders really hot.

How dumb is she to talk about the hot weather to the locals?  ?

10 hours ago, JennyMominFL said:

That steak WAS badly cooked. Just sayin

and sliced! was she using a butter knife??  oh but she worked in a restaurant she knows how to do it ?

Edited September 3, 2018 by noveltylibrary

[LennieBriscoe]

Kreeeeny lives and looks,  with her complexion and lifeless eyes, like a dull-witted slattern. 

In fact,  none of the foreign choices is appealing. 

Edited September 3, 2018 by LennieBriscoe

[JasonH]

5 hours ago, millennium said:

She kept challenging Michael like someone who'd been on Jerry Springer too many times

You’re not far off. 

[Lily247]

I felt so bad for that poor translator in the Karine and Paul convo with her parents. Will there be a translator when they recite their wedding vows to each other ?

[noveltylibrary]

11 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

“I’ll take good care of the baby and I think you’re an idiot”

line of the night!

[Lily247]

On a side note, I feel like I need subtitles when Angela speaks. 

My heart broke for hazel when dean questioned why her son doesnt live with her and made insinuations against her. Even though she is clearly just a run of the mill opportunistic seeker. 

[configdotsys]

Looking so forward to everyone’s thoughts...

Jon continues to give me a complete psycho vibe every time I see him. If he is unable to get a visa to come here, what are their plans? She has another child at home. Jon’s been in 50 or 60 fights. Mike Tyson had 58 fights. Rachel is crazy to trust him. All they need is one night in a bar and for Jon to think someone is looking at Rachel in a way that is “disrespectful” to him.

Paul and Karine are getting more unwashed and gross by the week. Paul is lucky that Karine’s family did not beat his ass when she told them he’s not nice to her when her parents are not around. I didn’t get a feeling that he’s mean to her. I think she’s secretive and doing stuff behind his back and he knows that. His answer is to “forbid” her from being “social” online but she lives on her phone and spends her days lounging in bed chatting up whomever while he does the dishes and puts her toys away. Bleh.

Ricky is irritating to me. He tries to come across as a puppy dog/good catch that has just had unfortunate luck with women, but I’m not buying it. His first message to this second choice girl was asking her for sex upon meeting? A hopeless romantic? How about a pig? He made it sound like he went to Colombia to meet her when hat’s not the case at all. He’s full of shit. Once the new gal arrived at his hotel, I FF’d through. No interest in this fool and I’m sad that he had a backup plan that will keep him on the show.

I get that smoking is not healthy but if Angela wants to smoke, that is up to her. If Michael does not like the smell of smoke or whatever, that is fine. It means they are not a match and should part ways. Same with Jesse and Darcey. If he wants a woman that does not drink, then don’t date one. Don’t get involved in a relationship and expect to dictate what the other person does. Looks like Angela did not bring a single appropriate shirt with her. I would have been TERRIFIED on that shaky walk. Ha. Angela does not want to work on their relationship, she wants to tell Michael what to do. Telling him “You make me snap and need to stop doing whatever it is that makes me snap,” is something an abuser would say. Michael has to make her happy so he doesn’t ruin his ticket to America. Angela should take her layaway ring and go home.

Watching Darcey and Jesse turn every single conversation into an argument is getting tiring. I just don’t understand why anyone would put up with this bullshit. They can’t even make a shopping list? Darcey’s “We have a lot of issues to work through,” was laughable. Issues? What exactly are the positives in the relationship? Oy, she wants him to be “into” shopping for dinner ingredients? Lord. The dinner making was a riot. Let’s have the kids watch us nearly kill each other while cooking steak and Rice a Roni. Madness indeed. The rice looked like it was brown in one picture but when finished in the pan looked like white rice.  There were some priceless looks on the faces of Darcey's kids during that fun, family bonding moment.

Tarik and his backward baseball cap needs to go away. I don’t think Hazel is attractive at all. I thought the brother was kind of mean to Hazel with regard to her son. She as no money. She’s dirt poor. I don’t know that I would judge her on that. I agree that something isn’t right with the relationship and I usually FF through their segments but I seem to recall people posting here that Hazel is very upfront that she is looking for a meal ticket.

[CoachWristletJen]

48 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

But Hazel is a user and if Tarik isn’t careful she’ll drain him and there will be nothing left for his daughter.  Come on, Hazel is not some innocent little flower.  She’s woman enough to get on the Internet to look for an American man.  Goodness, Dean was just being honest.  I’ll say it again, Hazel is a vampire and she’s fooling many with her act.

That's true. The only reason she cried was because she was frustrated. Tarik's brother was an obstacle in her way of America and that house full of larger than 8' x 8' rooms. She doesn't care about Tarik or what either one of them really thinks as long as she gets to America. And she will probably wind up leaving her son in the Philippines; he won't be joining in on her 'better life.' Seriously, if it were a labor of love, her parents would probably already be helping her take care of him. And, we can just imagine how much compassion she will have when she's alone with Tarik's daughter. 

If she knew how to manipulate American style, she would have screamed and yelled about how much she loved her child, but again, she's accustomed to communicating very differently. Her tears will work wonders on Tarik. As for the rest of it, she can close her eyes and think of her ex. 

She'll probably dump Tarik and run off with another guy in 2 to 4 years. Serves him right.

That's probably what happened to him before.

What's tempering my judgment of Hazel is the fact that she's dirt poor and desperate. I wouldn't want to work in a factory for a pittance for the rest of my life either. Not sure who her employers are, but I'm guessing they are not Fair Trade.  She sees something better. Maybe she envisions having enough money to get her son back.

Edited September 3, 2018 by CoachWristletJen

[noveltylibrary]

10 hours ago, lucy711 said:

Maybe Karine and Paul wouldn't have communication issues if they actually spoke the same language.

Paul should have picked up some Portuguese by this point.  And if Karine intends to come to the USA, she should be studying English.

Paul is a creep and annoying, but even he doesn't deserve to be responsible for the kid that Karine is clearly baking in her oven!

From Paul's IG:  "Karine wanted a baby so I bought her a baby."  creeped out..

10 hours ago, Kangatush said:

A note on steak.  "juice" is retained by letting it rest.  Cutting across the grain, whether or not at an angle, makes it more tender to eat.  

Don't correct her, she worked at a restaurant!

[noveltylibrary]

10 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Jon "Do you trust me." Rachel "Yes." I saw nothing but fear and doubt in her eyes.

she is a complete idiot.  this is stuff she needed to find out before she dragged her baby to meet him.  i have zero sympathy for her.

9 hours ago, hookedontv said:

All of Angela’s hootin’ and hollerin’ hurts my ears. And my eyes. 

haha hootin' and hollerin' made me think of Yosemite Sam 

https://gph.is/1m1QqEp

Edited September 3, 2018 by noveltylibrary
don't know how to embed a gif:(

[noveltylibrary]

9 hours ago, Suzywriter said:

Darcey has an eating disorder. She always starts fights and walks away from meals. That's a common technique with people who are making excuses to avoid food. 

I had eating disorders as a teen/young adult, you may be onto the something.

9 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

No one can 'make' you do something unless they say hit me and then put your hand on them to hit them.

Abusers come in many forms. Many go on about being a 'victim' and that nothing is their fault. Always someone else. Nope, someone triggered something in them, and they chose to react in the way they do. Most are very very weak and have no power. So it is a prop to get them to perceive themselves to have power.

Absolutely!!  When Angela said he "makes her" go off, I went off!

9 hours ago, JasonH said:

He said “I know steak”. You dont cook steak in a stone cold pan. She needed to cut it on a “bias”? What the fuck does that mean? An angle? Both these assholes are too much. I feel sorry for those girls.

And after it was cooked she tells him he needs to get a chargrill on it.  The idiocy never ends.

[LennieBriscoe]

My 91-year-old mother,  who smoked since age 25 (coincident with my birth,  haha!), didn't have anywhere near the wrinkles of Angela.  And that's an understatement. 

And does Angela think she is NOT fat? She really does shop at Delusions 'R' Us. 

[noveltylibrary]

8 hours ago, iwasish said:

Can you imagine Darcy’s reaction when her 11/12 yr old daughters are 17/18 and    strutting around in front of 30 yr old stepdad Jesse while 50 yr old Darcy sits and stews. 

 

Thank God we know that won't happen now.  Or will it?

[CoachWristletJen]

8 hours ago, magemaud said:

 

Hazel looks like she’d rather be doing anything other than giving Tarik “some lips.”

This picture says it all. Hazel is cutthroat, and I kind of get it. She works long days at a grueling job for a pittance. She either sleeps in a 10 x 10 cell with her parents or at her ex's place. 

Gauging by her mom's imperious 'judgy face' there has probably been a fair amount of friction there. After all, their daughter has a child with another husband and clothes at a different boyfriend's house and is perusing for strange men online? I envision Hazel's mom sprinkling holy water on her in her sleep because she can't afford holy oil.

I would think a woman has to summon her inner cobra to turn herself over to a man who repulses her. That being said, Tarik's brother was nothing more than an obstacle. He didn't hurt her feelings. His hold on Tarik's brain was just something that needed to be detonated so that she could move on her way to the U.S. Her tears did that quite effectively.

Tarik, you repulse her.

She will leave you when she gets the chance.

I still like her a whole lot more than I like him.

[noveltylibrary]

8 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Jesse needs to learn a lot more about #twinflames. I have a soul connection. They are about healing and I have done a lot of work on myself - released and continue to release pain, deal with my triggers, my issues. Maybe he and Darcey just romanticize it. It's hard work. Jesse and Darcey still are very much in egoland.

When she told her sister they have ups and downs like everyone else I thought, what planet are you on?

8 hours ago, TheRedQueen said:

This show is becoming less entertaining and more heart breaking. 

Call me cold but the entertainment factor just keeps getting better!