Season 2 Discussion

[sainte-chapelle]

These people are messes....all ...of..them!

Alternative theory, Karine is pregnant and Paul knows she is pregnant, the baby is his and TLC wanted to conceal it for the season.

Edited September 3, 2018 by sainte-chapelle

[CoachWristletJen]

7 minutes ago, Kangatush said:

It said "flawless".  

Oh, the irony! Her voluminous decolletage aside, what truly offended me about Angela was the way she was treating him like a servant, ordering him around, snapping at him, and just creating much misery in general. Then making lame excuses for her very bad behavior! 

[sainte-chapelle]

Jon "Do you trust me." Rachel "Yes." I saw nothing but fear and doubt in her eyes.

[Lily247]

5 hours ago, BradandJanet said:

I think there's a baby monitor, but since Lucy is in a crib, she could have been moved in their room.

While I have absolutely no proof, I think Rachel conceived Lucy on an earlier visit to Jon. I don't believe she's never been in England before since she was so calm at the airport/train stations. Jon seems very attached to Lucy. I guess the truth will come out at some point. I like them, but I always suspect producer manipulation in this show--for all these couples. 

Yes, there was a baby monitor, but I would NEVER have been able to sleep on an different floor from my baby even if it was my own home, let alone a .... strangers home. 

[guilfoyleatpp]

Is this the episode in which Paul realizes that his problems follow him wherever he goes?

Language and cultural barriers aside, he is worse than Jessie. Jessie doesn't respect Darcey and doesn't have any interest in hiding it and Pole doesn't realize that the other people around him are more than holograms to do his bidding. If Karine was an appropriate age and on equal financial footing, she would tell him to hit the road. 

Ximena is wayyyyyyy prettier than Melissa. Melissa is like those girls in LA who have all the things that pretty girls have...the fake blonde hair, extensions, fake boobs, veneers, and lots of makeup. Those are distractions though. So many basic girls like that. Ximena is actually pretty.

Jon has some serious issues. 50 fights is not someone with nothing to lose. It's someone who can't control their temper and can't predict perfectly reasonable consequences (like being arrested, having your ass kicked, getting very hurt or accidentally injuring someone else terribly). 

[peaceknit]

37 minutes ago, lucy711 said:

Paul should have picked up some Portuguese by this point.  And if Karine intends to come to the USA, she should be studying English.

I don't believe Pole has any intention of learning Portuguese. If Kreeny moves to the US though, she will be learning English.

[hookedontv]

All of Angela’s hootin’ and hollerin’ hurts my ears. And my eyes. 

[Toaster Strudel]

MAGAMichael had a lot to say tonight! It looks like true love to me.

• I need to make EmphysemAngela happy, I'm hoping to be with Angela in the States
• I want her to be happy because I want to spend the rest of my life with her IN AMERICA
• "What turns you on about Angela?" Angela is going to take care of me and make me comfortable
• We have cultural differences, but when SHE loves someone, she takes care of the person
• She'll take care of her man
• I hope it works out and we spend the rest of our lives in Trumpamerica

He's between a rock and a hard place. He obsequiously flatirons her hair to please her and get that US visa, but curiously the Smoking Bulldozer is angling for a "strong man" who is going to try put her in her place with his strength and domination, so that she can rebelliously fight him for the dog food bowl at every meal.  A lot of her discourse is about who has the power in the relationship, and how the power is hers and hers alone. She weakly pays lip-service to "50-50" and "WE will be running OUR house" but it's easy to see the cogs turning in her head forcing her to mouth these notions she doesn't believe in, for appearances' sake. And yet; she wants her romantic partner to covet that same power, and try to wrestle it from her - unsuccessfully of course.

Angela is your typical abuser who hides behind a backstory from decades ago to cast themselves as a victim, and make excuses for their mean streak. She snaps... because he makes her! It's not her fault, the poor dear has had some sad relationships before. She'd be great with Jesse, who does like older women, after all.

Only Angela can say the age difference may bother her. But if Michael says it... there will be hell to pay! She asks him what to wear, he answers politely that she could maybe cover her sprawling tattooed mammaries, and she blows a gasket. Why, these clothes don't make her look like a Walmart parking lot hoochie where she comes from! Mmmmm... who will disabuse her of this fantasy?

I suffer second-hand embarrassment when she brays like a donkey at 150 dB. Why is she braying when she's braying? What does it mean? It's just a power play. After she asked Michael's friends if her wrinkled ass is the "only one he been chasin'" she threw her head back and brayed for an eternity. They were so dumbfounded they didn't know what to say. They were very polite saying nothing when she complained about the lack of outdoor electric fans in Nigeria.  When she left to take a huge piss and smoke half a pack in the back, his friends' facial expression went from dumbfounded by Angela, to deeply worried and concerned about their friend selling his soul to this nasty, lined and withered nicotine addict.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Toaster Strudel

[Frozendiva]

Jesse and Darcey trigger everything in each other.  Volatile and unhealthy. Just end it. Neither of you two respect the other Thought it was a massive waste of money to buy so many steaks at the butcher's shop.  Only frying or searing one in one pan? One steak for all? I thought the house would have a gas grill.  Jesse, you will not be Darcey's girls' dad. At least not for a while. You will need to earn that privilege. You are 24 going on 54. Find another woman who wants to be your fixer upper project. Am surprised if he didn't ask the bakery manager if the carrot cake was 'organic'.

Paul and Karine, love isn't a translator app. Both of you cannot communicate with each other. Having an 'app' do it for you is wrong. Paul, you need to learn Portuguese and Karine should have some basic English by now. If she is already knocked up, and it is not Pole's kid, how do you think he is going to react when he learns to count and looks up babies on the Internet and things don't add up. The dude has a violent past. It is in the past but whatever triggers him is not. It's just sitting there waiting and it may not be pretty.  Mother Karine surely can tell her daughter that there are more foolish Americans and to walk away from this one. Both have nothing to offer. Karine's lack of interest in housekeeping - picking up a few stuffies is not much, and wanting to sleep all the time really doesn't bring much to any sort of relationship or marriage. How do they plan to be life partners to each other? Will some invent another App? Both are only equal to the other in use of the App. If Karine was a bit older, a bit more educated and worldly, she wouldn't be giving this chump her time. Right now, she is easy to control - once she learns English, she will run.

Rachel, the UK can be a bit more chilly than New Mexico in December. You are looking from 2-10C with temps in the 30s to 50s F. Most women would pack a pair of gloves and probably a scarf. So, Jon has admitted to 50-60 fights? Have you asked him about how he manages anger? How he controls his reactions to things that set him off? You are a vulnerable woman, who has few street smarts, and you are in a foreign country. You should have the addy /contact info of the US Embassy on your phone or other safe place - i.e. inside your passport. Jon's friends are not going to tell you all the truth about him. They don't owe you anything. Probably found you more of a curiosity. You seem really hung up on something serious with this guy - it is a bit desperate and Jon on some level can sense it. Go home to your other daughter and raise both her and Lucy. No matter who comes along. Better yourself, get some education/training and a decent job and you may have a lot more options available to you.

Tarik and Dean, you do not know Hazel and cannot step inside her life experiences and world view. Tarik, you can see the poverty she is in. Of course, she is looking for a way out. Almost anything, including you, is better than her present circumstance. And you do not know the circumstance that led her to give up her son. Dean, you came across as an Ugly American. You did have some valid points but just went about them in an abusive, abrasive way.

Ricky, you can get out of the Melissa thing with Ximena and tell the truth. You came to meet someone else, but that didn't work out, you didn't connect, yadda, yadda,  and thought you would call her since you were in the area, not expecting anything either.  Or you will have your own bad romcom of losing two girls in 10 days. You are pressuring yourself to find a lifemate in a few days. You too have to figure out what you can bring to a relationship, besides finding some sort of exotic beauty who will be enthralled by you.

Angela, looks like Michael isn't exactly husband material. His friends seem kinda nice and good looking. Your behavior is poor - blustery, disrespectful, selfish, treating your 'boyfriend'/'future husband' like a servant.  Complaining about everything. Wearing hugely inappropriate clothing. Having poor to non-existent manners. An American parody. Not appreciating the beautiful nature reserve. The green card must be a real draw for Michael, because most men except those in wherever, Georgia, would not put up with you.

[Suzywriter]

Darcey has an eating disorder. She always starts fights and walks away from meals. That's a common technique with people who are making excuses to avoid food. 

[Frozendiva]

3 minutes ago, Toaster Strudel said:

MAGAMichael had a lot to say tonight! It looks like true love to me.

• I need to make EmphysemAngela happy, I'm hoping to be with Angela in the States
• I want her to be happy because I want to spend the rest of my life with her IN AMERICA
• "What turns you on about Angela?" Angela is going to take care of me and make me comfortable
• We have cultural differences, but when SHE loves someone, she takes care of the person
• She'll take care of her man
• I hope it works out and we spend the rest of our lives in Trumpamerica

He's between a rock and a hard place, he obsequiously flatirons her hair to please her and get that US visa, but curiously the Smoking Bulldozer is angling for a "strong man" who is going to try put her in her place with his strength and domination, so that she can rebelliously fight him for the dog food bowl at every meal.  A lot of her discourse is about who has the power in the relationship, and how the power is hers and hers alone. She weakly pays lip-service to "50-50" and "WE will be running OUR house" but it's easy to see the cogs turning in her head forcing her to mouth these notions she doesn't believe in, for appearances' sake. And yet; she wants her romantic partner to covet that same power, and try to wrestle it from her - unsuccessfully of course.

Angela is your typical abuser who hides behind a backstory from decades ago to cast themselves as a victim, and make excuses for their mean streak. She snaps... because he makes her! It's not her fault, the poor dear has had some sad relationships before. She'd be great with Jesse, who does like older women, after all.

Only Angela can say the age difference may bother her. But if Michael says it... there will be hell to pay! She asks him what to wear, he answers politely that she could maybe cover her sprawling tattooed mammaries, and she blows a gasket. Why, these clothes don't make her look like a Walmart parking lot hoochie where she comes from! Mmmmm... who will disabuse her of this fantasy?

I suffer second-hand embarrassment when she brays like a donkey at 150 dB. Why is she braying when she's braying? What does it mean? It's just a power play. After she asked Michael's friends if her wrinkled ass is the "only one he been chasin'" she threw her head back and brayed for an eternity. They were so dumbfounded they didn't know what to say. They were very polite saying nothing when she complained about the lack of outdoor electric fans in Nigeria.  When she left to take a huge piss and smoke half a pack in the back, his friends' facial expression went from dumbfounded by Angela, to deeply worried and concerned about their friend selling his soul to this nasty, lined and withered nicotine addict.

No one can 'make' you do something unless they say hit me and then put your hand on them to hit them.

Abusers come in many forms. Many go on about being a 'victim' and that nothing is their fault. Always someone else. Nope, someone triggered something in them, and they chose to react in the way they do. Most are very very weak and have no power. So it is a prop to get them to perceive themselves to have power.

[For Cereals]

In the preview, it looked like Jesse was wearing half a storm trooper costume...

[sainte-chapelle]

Oh Ricky you sleep with the girl then call herMelissa? Really?

[iwasish]

49 minutes ago, Kangatush said:

A note on steak.  "juice" is retained by letting it rest.  Cutting across the grain, whether or not at an angle, makes it more tender to eat.  

Darcy “worked in a restaurant “, she knows best. But I agree with you , resting keeps it juicy, across the grain makes it tender. It still looked nasty, grey instead of brown. Didn’t they buy several big thick steaks, they only cooked one. And some rice a roni crap.

[Toaster Strudel]

The MethfaceKriny / PsychoPole segment was quite poignant. Her father was staring stoically in the distance, shifting on his chair uncomfortably, with a slightly pinched expression on his face, holding back tears. His heart was breaking in a million pieces. Her mother was a mixture of love for her daughter, pain and worry. Perhaps they curse their poverty, which led their daughter down this path. Her parents know about the world, that a man who, on Monday, promises to be a changed man, will be exactly the same man on Tuesday. They know that abusers, control freaks, and psychos get worse, not better. They see Kriny's youthful arrogance and hubris thinking that it will be different for her, as she dissolves into tears in front of them, pointing out that he is showing them a facade, and that he is radically different when alone with her. He is already controlling who she can, and cannot socialize with. Kriny wants to believe that Pole was the victim in his previous relationship disasters, deep down she knows he was the psycho at fault. She has seen the face of PsychoPole.

Pole reminds me of Tobo with his slick talking, empty promises (I'm going to give her a dream wedding on my mom's dime), and glib and immediate "taking responsibility" only to make the discussion go away so that he can continue not taking responsibility. For money, Tobo depends on his friend Chris, and Pole depends on his mother. Pole's idea of an apology is "I'm sorry you feel like I hurt you because of your own foolishness" - he gets angry, he gets stressed and shouts (downplayed as "gets vocal")

What a tragedy. I was weeping with her mom when Kriny picked the second ugly dress instead of the first, nice one. And because she is marrying into a world of cruelty and pain.

On the plus side, his visa is expiring and he needs to get back to Kentucky, so she'll have 6 months of peace while gravid (if Kriny has her way!) with the child that Pole's mother will have to support.

[JasonH]

Tarik- “Bringing Dean here might be the biggest mistake I’ve ever made”. As he’s wearing a mesh t-shirt.

[sainte-chapelle]

Lol at the poorly cut torn up badly cooked steak. Get a proper steak knife. I am kinda with Jesse on this one, she was being naggy and overbearing. They are both awful.

Edited September 3, 2018 by sainte-chapelle

[EllaDisco]

37 minutes ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Jon "Do you trust me." Rachel "Yes." I saw nothing but fear and doubt in her eyes.

Well, TBH, that was the best thing to say whether she trusted him or not.  If she was worried, she shouldn't be saying anything to upset him while she's in a vulnerable position.

[sainte-chapelle]

Just now, EllaDisco said:

Well, TBH, that was the best thing to say whether she trusted him or not.  If she was worried, she shouldn't be saying anything to upset him while she's in a vulnerable position.

Oh I agree but I think she was also trying not only to convince him but to convince herself.

[JasonH]

He said “I know steak”. You dont cook steak in a stone cold pan. She needed to cut it on a “bias”? What the fuck does that mean? An angle? Both these assholes are too much. I feel sorry for those girls.

[trimthatfat]

I’m sorry, but Angela blaming Michael for why she snaps makes me feel like she could end up being abusive. That’s what abusive partners say...you made me upset, you made me snap, you made me yell. Very scary. I think Michael will do whatever he can to get to the US not realizing Angela is clearly broke.

I want to hug Karine’s mom. She broke my heart when she cried in the bridal shop. What should have been a fun moment with her daughter ended up being emotional in a bad way. I think her mom is so stressed about Karine ending up unhappy and it’s so sad. Paul will never change. He’ll make promises to be kinder, but he’ll always be a dick. Her parents see this and that’s why they don’t want her to marry him.

Even with all that said, perhaps the most uncomfortable moment for me was watching Tariq in a mesh shirt over a tank top.

[Toaster Strudel]

GarbageGnome's friends first burst into laughter, then went all NOPE on answering questions about Jon's romantic past. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Commenting on KaraokeRachel who was sitting on a chair in the lotus position in a bar, one of the friends declared that she "seems decent" while the other friend guffawed at that  obvious "damn with faint praise" comment. Moving on to their assessment of the psychological underpinnings of the relationship, they agreed on "they both like karaoke!" - and felt like geniuses for coming up with even one thing the transatlantic lovers have in common. High five, blokes!

So... it turns out, we have 50 to 60 fights... which I'm going to say is probably closer to 80 to 100 because people are known to lie, resulting in 5 criminal charges. The friends offer another opinion: Jon never started any of these fights! He's just defending himself, or defending the honor of all women, he's not violent, just protective! Besides it's the fault of his neighborhood. Trouble just follows him. It only happens when he takes the piss! Bad luck, I guess! Also, he didn't have KaraokeRachel to live for back then, so it's a bit her fault, too, now.

Alternative theory: he's a major twit, a drunk, and an instigator.

[BradandJanet]

13 minutes ago, iwasish said:

Darcy “worked in a restaurant “, she knows best. But I agree with you , resting keeps it juicy, across the grain makes it tender. It still looked nasty, grey instead of brown. Didn’t they buy several big thick steaks, they only cooked one. And some rice a roni crap.

She was right about cutting the meat across the grain. However, no decent chef would send out steak sliced into sloppy, ragged, different sized pieces. Obviously, restauranting wasn't her future career. 

[sainte-chapelle]

17 minutes ago, iwasish said:

Darcy “worked in a restaurant “, she knows best. But I agree with you , resting keeps it juicy, across the grain makes it tender. It still looked nasty, grey instead of brown. Didn’t they buy several big thick steaks, they only cooked one. And some rice a roni crap.

Who goes to all the trouble to buy a beautiful steak, cook it poorly, tear it to shreds, then serve it with salty rice a roni? 

[Frozendiva]

If I fry or grill a steak on the stove, it's in my Le Creuset grill pan. The pan has to be seasoned properly, the steak needs to be seared on high heat. That steak looked like something that came out of my old George Foreman Grill.

[EllaDisco]

Jon should become a spokesman for a karaoke company.  Karaoke saved me from a life of crime and lead me to the woman of my dreams!

[sainte-chapelle]

2 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

If I fry or grill a steak on the stove, it's in my Le Creuset grill pan. The pan has to be seasoned properly, the steak needs to be seared on high heat. That steak looked like something that came out of my old George Foreman Grill.

Yes to all of this, I am a cast iron girl myself. I suspect even the George Foreman would have done a better job.

[heatherchandler]

1 hour ago, CoachWristletJen said:

Dean just needs to accept the unholy alliance between Hazel and Tarik. She wants to get out of the country any way she can. He wants a smokin' hot chick who is half his age and way out of his league. Neither one of them is thinking about Tarik's autistic child. I'm wondering if they've given much thought to Hazel's son? Will he leave his father? Will his father even let him go? Will he stay in poverty in the Philippines? What will happen?

Smokin hot?  I cannot agree with you there.  I don’t find her good looking at all.  She does seem like a good person, and Dean was horrible to her, disgusting.

What the ever-loving fuck was Tariq wearing??  The black mesh with a white tank!! 

[guilfoyleatpp]

Following Darcey's logic of knowing how to cook/cut a steak, when I was in high school I worked as an appointment setter at a dentist's office. I am totally prepared to extract your tooth. Trust me. 

[Frozendiva]

I didn't get the expense of buying those beautiful and expensive steaks at the butcher (not a grocery store special) and then frying them up like that. My on-sale ribeyes I bought yesterday (long weekend special) got better treatment in my bbq. Darcey could just have bought some cheaper sirloins. I was impressed how much space was around the stove. Mine is jammed in with the cupboards.

[Toaster Strudel]

Dramacey & AngryDutchman - They can't even discuss a grocery list without a hissing cat fight, so I was shocked they actually made it to the store and were able to pick Rice-A-Roni and colossal steaks from the "butt-cher," as Jesse puts it. There was even a touching, beautiful moment, worthy of an appreciation ring, where they came together sharing the joy of finding a $5 commercial carrot cake. In a comical variation of "look, a goat!" Jesse shouted out "look, diapers!" which immediately laser-guided Dramacey's focus on motherhood, and how this must have been a hint that he longed for fatherhood with her, right here and right now. I'm 43! You keep hinting you want babies! You gotta hurry! I'm pushing the limits! And here we go again.

One of the daughters, if not both, has a crush on Jesse and was giving him the googly eyes. All three are millenials, after all!

The steak fight was epic. I love this show.

Only Darcey can slice steak the perfect way. Her daughters like it that singular way, and no other way. No one should dare serve them pre-sliced steak that's not cut on the bias to retain the goddamn juices. Darcey. Must. Slice. The steaks. So sit down Jesse.  But then Jesse has a hissy fit because he was supposed to do the steaks, and she was supposed to do the Rice-A-Roni and this division of labor is as immutable as it is important. He walks out, because this kind of mutiny is not to be tolerated, and later gets fetched with a "Dinner's ready" which in his wisdom #caffemeester #psychologist #twinflames is cause to escalate this into the equivalent of a Jon bar fight. If only they'd thought of giving the girls their own knives and forks.

I must now comment on Darcey's meat carving technique. None of her high-falutin' theories are worth a nickel if she's slicing, or rather, ripping and shredding the meat with a knife so dull it can't cut through room temperature butter.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Toaster Strudel

[Toaster Strudel]

WOW! I received an invitation to Tariq & Hazel's wedding!
    

 

[iwasish]

2 minutes ago, Toaster Strudel said:

Dramacey & AngryDutchman - They can't even discuss a grocery list without a hissing cat fight, so I was shocked they actually made it to the store and were able to pick Rice-A-Roni and colossal steaks from the "butt-cher," as Jesse puts it. There was even a touching, beautiful moment, worthy of an appreciation ring, where they came together sharing the joy of finding a $5 commercial carrot cake. In a comical variation of "look, a goat!" Jesse shouted out "look, diapers!" which immediately laser-guided Dramacey's focus on motherhood, and how this must have been a hint that he longed for fatherhood with her, right here and right now. I'm 43! You keep hinting you want babies! You gotta hurry! I'm pushing the limits! And here we go again.

One of the daughters, if not both, has a crush on Jesse and was giving him the googly eyes. All three are millenials, after all!

The steak fight was epic. I love this show.

Only Darcey can slice steak the perfect way. Her daughters like it that singular way, and no other way. No one should dare serve them pre-sliced steak that's not cut on the bias to retain the goddamn juices. Darcey. Must. Slice. The steaks. So sit down Jesse.  But then Jesse has a hissy fit because he was supposed to do the steaks, and she was supposed to do the Rice-A-Roni and this division of labor is as immutable as it is important. He walks out, because this kind of mutiny is not to be tolerated, and later gets fetched with a "Dinner's ready" which in his wisdom #caffemeester #psychologist #twinflames is cause to escalate this into the equivalent of a Jon bar fight. If only they'd thought of giving the girls their own knives and forks.

I must now comment on Darcey's meat carving technique. None of her high-falutin' theories are worth a nickel if she's slicing, or rather, ripping and shredding the meat with a knife so dull it can't cut through room temperature butter.

Can you imagine Darcy’s reaction when her 11/12 yr old daughters are 17/18 and    strutting around in front of 30 yr old stepdad Jesse while 50 yr old Darcy sits and stews. 

I did notice that she covered her leather   shorty shorts with her jacket in the store. I wonder if Jesse told her to.

[Frozendiva]

Jesse needs to learn a lot more about #twinflames. I have a soul connection. They are about healing and I have done a lot of work on myself - released and continue to release pain, deal with my triggers, my issues. Maybe he and Darcey just romanticize it. It's hard work. Jesse and Darcey still are very much in egoland.

[bichonblitz]

Darcey may as well have cut that steak with a chainsaw! Steak and Rice-a-Roni. Never thought to try that combo. 

Funny thing about kids. They can usually just sit back, watch the shitshow and know exactly what is going on. Mom, can we just eat the steak now? Something tells me this is not the first time they have seen dear old mom like this. They seem like really great girls, too. How did that happen? 

Hazel is very, very strange. I can't stop looking at that straggly clump of greasy hair in her face. Just tuck it in to your ponytail, girl. 

[Annymin]

Look at the ring finger on Darcey’s left hand.  It appears she is wearing a silver band with a diamond-ish emerald cut ring on top, which reeks of a high school level of desperation unbecoming a woman of her age. She probably pretends that Jesse has married her.  Grow up!

[TheRedQueen]

This show is becoming less entertaining and more heart breaking. 

Jesse and Ol’ Carrot Cake- Jesse, no one cares the kids aren’t yours, especially the butcher. I at least give him props for being decent with Carrot cake’s daughters up until she kept nagging him and nit picking. She needs to keep her mouth shut about their issues to her kids, it’s not their shit show it’s yours. These two must be triggered by food, tonight it was a steak. 

Tarik and Hazel- Ok I’ll admit that I don’t dislike these two as much as the others. Ohhh brother Dean was way outta line. I get he’s worried but berating a young girl in public is not cool. She doesn’t have to answer your questions and you have no idea why she let her ex take her son. I feel for her, Tarik is a way out of poverty and a way to get her son back, fuck Dean for making her feel like crap because she made the best choice for her child. She’s the only one I want to actually find happiness in this shit show. 

Tabacco Angie and Michael- I agree with everyone that she can/will be an abuser. She’s already slapped him in the face in public and you could hear the slaps when they were walking across the scary ass walkway in the nature preserve. Just run Michael, it’s not like she can catch up to you. Love his friends though. I’m also positive the producers are giving her the worst lighting possible in her TH segments, her wrinkle lines run deeper then the Mariana Trench. 

Pole and Khareknee- Hate them both. They manipulate each other all the time. I feel bad for her mom because she sees what’s going on and just wants her daughter to be happy. Pole must be terrifying when the cameras aren’t around keeping him in check.

Rachel and Scruff Daddy- yawn. He has anger issues and she’s desperate. Hope the other dad takes custody of the new baby too. 

Ricky- just please stop. Your soooo lame. What’s wrong with the new woman that she actually likes him? Why did Ricky have some weird dark marks on his forehead? 

Was it like a flash back to the 80s episode tonight? Jesse with his headband I wore back in grade school. Tarik dressing like he just came off the set of the Right Said Fred ‘I’m too sexy’ video shoot. Rickey’s fanny pack and cheesy “romantic” giant vanilla dollar store candles and bag of rose petals straight from a Harlequin romance novel. Btw I’ve never seen a bag of rose petals for sale. EVER. 

Edited September 3, 2018 by TheRedQueen

[bichonblitz]

Just now, Annymin said:

Look at the ring finger on Darcey’s left hand.  It appears she is wearing a silver band with a diamond-ish emerald cut ring on top, which reeks of a high school level of desperation unbecoming a woman of her age

That's probably the promise ring Jesse gave her last season. Remember how disappointed she was when she thought he was going to propose to her? 

[charmed1]

Tarik in no way loves Hazel and vice versa. Hazel is a fetish to him. He’s probably graduated from a porn fetish, to a real life one. Because, “Asian girls are hot,” according to this doofus. So, if she doesn’t work out, he’ll just travel to the next Asian country and easily replace her with another, just like he did with the one before her. She’s trying to make sure her meal ticket is secured.

Dean is an ass, but I was hoping that he would mention his niece, Ari and how she’s being dragged into this foolishness. 

Angela took one look at Michael’s hot friend, David, and instantly declared that he was older than her. The look he gave the camera was epic. Michael sounded offended for him when he said, “He is also my friend.” 

I just realized Tarik’s outfit consisted of socks and black & white flip flops. This fool was actually trying to match this ugly assed outfit! He actually brought this combination in his luggage. You know you’re horrible when Ricky is not the worst dressed on this show. 

Tarik, go back to the 757. Shave your head and raise your daughter. Let’s start there.

Edited September 3, 2018 by charmed1

[Gigglepuff]

Just now, bichonblitz said:

That's probably the promise ring Jesse gave her last season. Remember how disappointed she was when she thought he was going to propose to her? 

Could be! Or could it have been the engagement ring she bought for herself? 

[trimthatfat]

While I think Jesse is a jerk, I also think that Darcey doesn’t know how to just let Jesse be. Darcey should have just focused on her daughters and hanging out with them instead of trying to be right about how to cut the meat. Jesse should have kept his cool knowing that’s Darcey’s daughters were present. They both handled this very poorly.

When one of the daughters hugged Darcey after the fight, I couldn’t help but think she’s probably had to comfort her mom many times over the years over guys.

[monagatuna]

8 minutes ago, charmed1 said:

Tarik in no way loves Hazel and vice versa. Hazel is a fetish to him. He’s probably graduated from a porn fetish, to a real life one. Because, “Asian girls are hot,” according to this doofus. So, if she doesn’t work out, he’ll just travel to the next Asian country and easily replace her with another, just like he did with the one before her. She’s trying to make sure her meal ticket is secured.

Dean is an ass, but I was hoping that he would mention his niece, Ari and how she’s being dragged into this foolishness. 

Angela took one look at Michael’s hot friend, David, and instantly declared that he was older than her. The look he gave the camera was epic. Michael sounded offended for him when he said, “He is also my friend.” 

Yeah, wasn't his "ex" from Thailand?

I'm rooting for Hazel. She seems genuine, honest, and hardworking, weird religious stuff notwithstanding.

That bit from Angela! In what world is that friend older than her?! Black don't crack indeed! He looked half her age if anything.

[magemaud]

19 minutes ago, Annymin said:

Look at the ring finger on Darcey’s left hand.  It appears she is wearing a silver band with a diamond-ish emerald cut ring on top, which reeks of a high school level of desperation unbecoming a woman of her age.

and what happened to the "appreciation ring" Jesse gave her in Amsterdam? 

Jesse has the longest torso on any man I have ever seen! 

In Darcey's defense, she was cooking in someone else's kitchen and probably had no idea what pots/pans/utensils, etc. she had at her disposal. 

17 minutes ago, TheRedQueen said:

Rickey’s fanny pack and cheesy “romantic” giant vanilla dollar store candles and bag of rose petals straight from a Harlequin romance novel. Btw I’ve never seen a bag of rose petals for sale. EVER. 

Maybe he saved a couple of Melissa's "I Love You" red roses? 

Hazel looks like she’d rather be doing anything other than giving Tarik “some lips.”

Edited September 3, 2018 by magemaud

[Auntie Anxiety]

1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

Ricky, you can get out of the Melissa thing with Ximena and tell the truth. You came to meet someone else, but that didn't work out, you didn't connect, yadda, yadda,  and thought you would call her since you were in the area, not expecting anything either.  

I’m sure in XXXimena’s line of work, she’s been called various names by mistake and probably couldn’t care less, as long the money is on the nightstand. 

[PityFree]

 They do sell bags of rose petals.  The first time I saw them was when I was a flower girl for a family wedding.  They opened up the bag and put them in a little basket so I could drop Rose petals on the ground in front of the bride.

Edited September 3, 2018 by PityFree

[Annymin]

14 minutes ago, Gigglepuff said:

Could be! Or could it have been the engagement ring she bought for herself? 

Could be either one.  It’s the addition of the fake wedding band that raises the desperation level.  

[TheRedQueen]

4 minutes ago, PityFree said:

 They do sell bags of rose petals.  The first time I saw them was when I was a flower girl for a family wedding.  They opened up the bag and put them in a little basket so I could drop Rose petals on the ground in front of the bride.

Awww burst my bubble! I was really hoping that he was reusing Love of His Life’s roses like Magemaud said! 

[Splithair]

1 hour ago, JasonH said:

He said “I know steak”. You dont cook steak in a stone cold pan. She needed to cut it on a “bias”? What the fuck does that mean? An angle? Both these assholes are too much. I feel sorry for those girls.

Yes!  What the hell is a bias??

[monagatuna]

7 minutes ago, PityFree said:

 They do sell bags of rose petals.  The first time I saw them was when I was a flower girl for a family wedding.  They opened up the bag and put them in a little basket so I could drop Rose petals on the ground in front of the bride.

They even sell them on Amazon, they come chilled.

I don't want to see Angela and Michael on the canopy walk. I want to see more of those trees, birds, turtles, that peacock scratching itself...Angela has no idea what she's missing out on!

[Kangatush]

Just now, Splithair said:

Yes!  What the hell is a bias??

It's a fabric term basically meaning at an angle, across the weave.  She works in fashion so it makes sense that's a term she'd use.