"The View": Week Of 6/18/2018

[TV Diva Queen]

The other day Sunny said she was Senior Legal Adviser for ABC News.  Is that true?

[Vixenstud]

Dear Kevin Costner:

Yes, you may have me....I'm willing to throw Mr. Vixenstud under a truck just for a kiss from you.  Call me?

Lustfully yours, 

Vixenstud

[TheGreenKnight]

I'm glad Sunny is making a regular thing out of pointing out that what Meh-gun says she is saying is not what she actually said at all. She needs to make that point every single day Meh-gun is still at this table.

[JayD83]

Sunny is GIVING it to MM.  I can tell she's getting tired of MM putting words in her mouth.

[GoldenGirl90]

What the hell is wrong with Meghan? Of course being imprisoned/murdered just for being gay, for example, is different from ripping children from the arms of their parents. Nobody is comparing the two; both are despicable and disgusting. I'm so glad Sunny has been making it a habit to point out that she didn't say the things Meghan keeps accusing her of saying - Meghan is putting words in folks' mouths with her selective outrage and inability to actually listen. She's God awful and I can't say it enough.

[Haleth]

OH, for God's sake, shut the fuck up, Meghan!  And quit putting words in other people's mouths!  Good grief, she is infuriating!

Edited June 20, 2018 by Haleth

[TheGreenKnight]

Good for Whoopi pointing out that nobody at the table said they were against a bipartisan bill except for Meh-gun. There're enough real things to be disgusted about (like the topic at hand which she so conveniently skates around condemning) without inventing nonsense that people didn't say.

I love Sunny for calling this disgusting, immoral, un-Christian, and most of all a human rights abuse.

Edited June 20, 2018 by TheGreenKnight

[Bronzedog]

I like Whoopie's glasses.  And, I would say I hate Meghan but that would be redundant.

[Apprentice79]

Megan has no soul, she will always defend her tribe.  She is vile.  

[GHScorpiosRule]

57 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I'm glad Sunny is making a regular thing out of pointing out that what Meh-gun says she is saying is not what she actually said at all. She needs to make that point every single day Meh-gun is still at this table.

Let me guess: she, the twat of the pursed and twitching lips that looks like she just sucked on the sourest of lemons, either double downed and denied she did any such thing, or threw out a cavalier, insincere, back-handed apology, to make it appear it was Sunny's fault for confusing the poor widdle dear.

[blondiec0332]

Meghan is mad that Saudi Arabia hasn't had more condemnations from the United Nations but when Joy was telling her Trump doesn't seem to have a problem with Saudi Arabia Meghan just blew it off. She cherry picks who to be outraged about.

[TheGreenKnight]

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Let me guess: she, the twat of the pursed and twitching lips that looks like she just sucked on the sourest of lemons, either double downed and denied she did any such thing, or threw out a cavalier, insincere, back-handed apology, to make it appear it was Sunny's fault for confusing the poor widdle dear.

She doubled down. And did the same thing when they were talking about a bipartisan agreement in Congress she accused the other ladies of not supporting (despite them saying no such thing) if Trump refuses to sign the executive order.

Since I'm posting again anyway (sorry, everybody), I just wanted to say something superficial: I loved Sara's dress and Joy had a good hair day today (her outfit complemented her hair well, too). I like Alison Brie. Incidentally, I've been watching Community for the first time this past month (just started season 5). She's a good actress, so I'll end up watching her new show at some point.

Edited June 20, 2018 by TheGreenKnight

[blondiec0332]

You can tell Meghan wants the immigrant children story to go away.  She really is defending the indefensible all the while trying to make it appear she is not.

[backformore]

14 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

You can tell Meghan wants the immigrant children story to go away.  She really is defending the indefensible all the while trying to make it appear she is not.

I think Meghan is having a tough time when her dad speaks out against the administration, but her husband still defends them.   recently her point of view has become less hard-line republican and more muddled, patriotic platitudes.   

[Wings]

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Edited June 20, 2018 by Wings

[JAYJAY1979]

Meghan needs to look up the term slippery slope.  Her dismissing the other ladies concerns because the US isn't north Korea shows how she isn't able ,or  unwilling, to look beneath the surface of an issue.  

Also, she said she doesn't focus on Teump but on Nikki Haley...but doesnt Nikki Haley deliver messages set out by Trump?  I mean that is the point of being an ambassador for the UN yes?  To be a vocal representative of the US thus delivering the message sort forth by the US?  

I did like Whoopi using the 'seat at the table' argument meghan used against her ;)

[blondiec0332]

6 minutes ago, backformore said:

I think Meghan is having a tough time when her dad speaks out against the administration, but her husband still defends them.   recently her point of view has become less hard-line republican and more muddled, patriotic platitudes.   

The apple might not fall far from the tree but when someone comes along and picks it up...….

[Tunia]

3 hours ago, TV Diva Queen said:

The other day Sunny said she was Senior Legal Adviser for ABC News.  Is that true?

Very much so.

http://www.sunnyhostin.com/website/publish/home/homeList.php

[Apprentice79]

29 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

You can tell Meghan wants the immigrant children story to go away.  She really is defending the indefensible all the while trying to make it appear she is not.

Nobody is talking about the long-term effects on these kids. I remember seeing a documentary on captive lions and tigers. They had a segment on tiger cubs who were separated from their mothers to be raised by humans. Both the mother and the cubs would cry for each other for days. These tigers  had problems from their  forced separation, even as adults. So, I wonder what will happen to the kids who will never be reunited with their parents. Who will raise them, who will love them. This is so disgusting. I saw a woman who spoke about her grandparents who had survived the holocaust, even, as adults, they still suffered from having been separated from their parents.  

Edited June 20, 2018 by Apprentice79

[geekburger]

Sunny was responding beautifully to Megan but then Joy kept trying it talk over her.

 

Whoopi actually moderated pretty good today, diffusing and controlling the situation. 

[TV Diva Queen]

thanks @Tunia

[pachebo]

re: Tuesday's show... the Whoopster told us we could catch Kevin Costner's movie "YELLOWSTAR" on blah blah (i went back to make sure i heard it correctly). Sheeesh....

Jaron Lanier struck me as a wild-eyed conspiracy theorist and a total nutcase.  I also thought that most of the panel were responding to him strangely, even though the all-gracious whoopi told him he "had to come back".

[GoldenGirl90]

19 minutes ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

Meghan needs to look up the term slippery slope.  Her dismissing the other ladies concerns because the US isn't north Korea shows how she isn't able ,or  unwilling, to look beneath the surface of an issue.  

She also needs to look up gaslighting, as that is what she tries to do to Sunny in particular on a regular basis. 

[Tunia]

15 minutes ago, pachebo said:

Jaron Lanier struck me as a wild-eyed conspiracy theorist and a total nutcase.  I also thought that most of the panel were responding to him strangely, even though the all-gracious whoopi told him he "had to come back".

Sometimes genius shows itself in strange ways.

[blondiec0332]

3 minutes ago, Tunia said:

19 minutes ago, pachebo said:

Jaron Lanier struck me as a wild-eyed conspiracy theorist and a total nutcase.  I also thought that most of the panel were responding to him strangely, even though the all-gracious whoopi told him he "had to come back".

Sometimes genius shows itself in strange ways.

I read his book last night.  He is exactly right. Society has changed and not for the better since social media took hold.  The quote when a product is given to you for free it simply means you are the product is accurate.

[Wings]

 Meghan, Jesus fucking Christ!  Stop coming in with an agenda based on what you think your colleagues believe and will say.  LISTEN!  And stop with the pout and retort, 'I won't say anymore.'  Goddamn she is such a brat.  This is not good TV, ABC.  Not good at all.   Oh and STOP using the word Bipartisan.  That is your way of saying, why can't the democrats get together with us on this issue.  In this case the democrats have been wanting your sorry ass tribe to agree with us! 

 AAAAAARGGGGGGGG!  I hate her.  

Okay, done.  :^)

Edited June 20, 2018 by Wings

[Haleth]

Meghan is following in lockstep with the administration's attempt to blame this on the Dems. If the Dems won't vote for Cruz's bill (or any other that includes funding for the wall) then THEY are to blame for the kids in cages. She refused to hear that Trump can void the his policy of pulling kids out of the arms of their parents with a stroke of his pen.  <Sunny's magic powers fingers>. She doesn't want him to go against his promise to the base.  

And how vile is Lewindowski (not bothering to look up spelling) with his mocking of a Down's syndrome child?

[blondiec0332]

Just now, Haleth said:

Meghan is following in lockstep with the administration's attempt to blame this on the Dems. If the Dems won't vote for Cruz's bill (or any other that includes funding for the wall) then THEY are to blame for the kids in cages. She refused to hear that Trump can void the his policy of pulling kids out of the arms of their parents with a stroke of his pen.  <Sunny's magic powers fingers>. She doesn't want him to go against his promise to the base.  

That is exactly what she is doing. She kept trying to do the gotcha game with her cohosts by repeatedly saying they didn't want a bipartisan bill.

[Wings]

I haven't watched any of the favorite things segments but I will tomorrow.  It will be Whoopi's choices.  I am curious.  I like her style is many instances.   She dresses a lot like Lily Tomlin on Grace and Frankie.  

[Blissfool]

1 hour ago, blondiec0332 said:

The apple might not fall far from the tree but when someone comes along and picks it up...….

Never heard this before, but I love it! Will have to keep my ears open for an opportunity to use this in real life.

[blondiec0332]

1 minute ago, Blissfool said:

Never heard this before, but I love it! Will have to keep my ears open for an opportunity to use this in real life.

I just made it up.  LOL.  Feel free to steal it.

[backformore]

1 hour ago, Apprentice79 said:

Nobody is talking about the long-term effects on these kids. I remember seeing a documentary on captive lions and tigers. They had a segment on tiger cubs who were separated from their mothers to be raised by humans. Both the mother and the cubs would cry for each other for days. These tigers  had problems from their  forced separation, even as adults. So, I wonder what will happen to the kids who will never be reunited with their parents. Who will raise them, who will love them. This is so disgusting. I saw a woman who spoke about her grandparents who had survived the holocaust, even, as adults, they still suffered from having been separated from their parents.  

It wasn't long ago that there was a crisis with Romanian orphans, many if whom were adopted by American parents. Raised in deplorable conditions, they had long term medical and psychological problems. Some were diagnosed with reactive Attachment Disorder, sometime resulting in aggression and lifelong problems relating to others.

These kids are being damaged.

[Apprentice79]

3 minutes ago, backformore said:

It wasn't long ago that there was a crisis with Romanian orphans, many if whom were adopted by American parents. Raised in deplorable conditions, they had long term medical and psychological problems. Some were diagnosed with reactive Attachment Disorder, sometime resulting in aggression and lifelong problems relating to others.

These kids are being damaged.

I still remember that Diane Sawyer story, where she exposed those awful orphanages in Romania. That was also an unintended consequence, of the government going too far, when they required every woman to have 5 children each... Babies and children need love as they are developing, it is essential to their health.

Edited June 20, 2018 by Apprentice79

[Wings]

1 hour ago, Apprentice79 said:

Nobody is talking about the long-term effects on these kids. I remember seeing a documentary on captive lions and tigers. They had a segment on tiger cubs who were separated from their mothers to be raised by humans. Both the mother and the cubs would cry for each other for days. These tigers  had problems from their  forced separation, even as adults. So, I wonder what will happen to the kids who will never be reunited with their parents. Who will raise them, who will love them. This is so disgusting. I saw a woman who spoke about her grandparents who had survived the holocaust, even, as adults, they still suffered from having been separated from their parents.  

The damage that was done in the first 24 hours would have lasted a lifetime and now, this long?  Those poor kids.  I have shed a lot of tears knowing what they will go through in their lives.  The youngest will suffer the effects much more than the older kids though they will have problems, of course.  

Had they kept siblings together and placed the tiny ones with older children who could have played big sister or brother for them by giving them hugs and sleeping cuddled together, things would be a little more hopeful for their lives.  

[RHJunkie]

Meghan doesn't understand a lot of things but has yet to realize it's because she never listens. The reason the others were bringing up Trump's power to stop this is for one, it's deflating a lie that suggests that it's the Democrats that are responsible for the policy being enforced and secondly, it's recognizing that any legislation approved by Trump will want to include funding for the wall (this as much has been said) and the Dems won't want to trade one human rights issue for another. Trump is using this policy as political leverage for his border wall and it's absolutely disgusting. It was also abhorrent that Meghan's pea brain jumped to an insinuation that the Dems won't work with Republicans on legislation because if Trump won't fix the problem, then screw the kids. Seriously Meghan, I don't believe she's that dumb. I think she's that manipulative and is doing exactly what the Trump administration does. Leaps to assumptions so that they can paint the other side as the villains. But she just hates it when she feels the Dems are doing that to the Republicans. 

As for the UN discussion...look at Meghan talking through her hypocritical mouth. Wasn't it just a couple of weeks ago she supported the summit with North Korea because you need to have dialogue to effect change? Didn't she also say that players who were personally insulted by Trump should still go to the White House and try to have a conversation because you can't change anything if two sides aren't talking? By this regard, if the US feels like a leader advocating for human rights issues around the world, how are they effecting change if they aren't sitting at the table, hmm Meghan? And while unsurprising that she took offense to Sunny's comments and put words in her mouth, her tone deafness is alarming. All human rights abuses are atrocities and Meghan's defense essentially suggests that a gay life in Saudi Arabia is worth more than a indefensible child's life in America. How exactly do you choose which is worse? She's angry that America is revealed as hypocrites but no one needed Sunny to point that out. 

[blondiec0332]

4 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

She's angry that America is revealed as hypocrites but no one needed Sunny to point that out. 

Meghan seems to be angry concerning so much about this horrible thing with the immigrant children.  Except she doesn't seem angry about what is actually  happening to the immigrant children.  She is angry about the optics. She is angry about other countries getting away with human rights violations. She is angry people are expecting Trump to fix this.  But I don't think I have ever heard her once say she is angry children are being ripped away from their parents.

[Wings]

12 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

Meghan seems to be angry concerning so much about this horrible thing with the immigrant children.  Except she doesn't seem angry about what is actually  happening to the immigrant children.  She is angry about the optics. She is angry about other countries getting away with human rights violations. She is angry people are expecting Trump to fix this.  But I don't think I have ever heard her once say she is angry children are being ripped away from their parents.

She did not.  She did not seem to care about the damage being done to them that they will carry for their lifetime.  They may buy a gun and hunt down people like you, Meg.  Watch your back.  This damage can create anger and violence. 

[Cyranetta]

Quote

Meghan seems to be angry concerning so much about this horrible thing with the immigrant children.  Except she doesn't seem angry about what is actually  happening to the immigrant children.  She is angry about the optics. She is angry about other countries getting away with human rights violations. She is angry people are expecting Trump to fix this.  But I don't think I have ever heard her once say she is angry children are being ripped away from their parents.

There is something morally abhorrent about shifting an argument about "ripping children  out of their parents' arms is bad" to "ripping children out of their parents' arms is preferable to rape and murder." We shouldn't have to choose, because both are reprehensible (as well as many of the other reprehensible degrees on MM's moral "thermometer". 

[Haleth]

13 minutes ago, Cyranetta said:

optiThere is something morally abhorrent about shifting an argument about "ripping children  out of their parents' arms is bad" to "ripping children out of their parents' arms is preferable to rape and murder." We shouldn't have to choose, because both are reprehensible (as well as many of the other reprehensible degrees on MM's moral "thermometer". 

And even worse, "ripping children out of their parents' arms is bad optics."

[Medicine Crow]

1 hour ago, tvaddict44 said:

Re: Whoopi's garbled reference to kevin Costner's new show.  It's not a movie - it's a mini-series (maybe 10 episodes?) It starts tonight on what used to be your Spike TV network (now called paramount).  8-10:00 tonight ( CST) and I think only 1 hour after tonight.  I think the previews look promising, but I have loved westerns since they gave me Clint Eastwood when I was 14.....

Oh honey, Clint's spaghetti westerns were just the delicious icing on the cake!!!  Before that there was Roy Rogers on T.V. & who can forget the Magnificent Seven!!!  (I've always been & will always be a western fan.)

I've tried to find the channel on my line-up in Calgary on Shaw, but ...

[Ladyrain]

1 hour ago, RHJunkie said:

Meghan doesn't understand a lot of things but has yet to realize it's because she never listens.

This is so so true.  Meggie comes out with her blue cards, and come hell or high water she's going to say what's on them.  Doesn't matter if the conversation meanders - as conversations do - in a slightly different direction; it doesn't matter if someone says something that refutes what's on her damn cards; it doesn't matter if facts belie what she's written down on her cheat sheets.  She'll huff and she'll puff (which she actually did today, when Whoopie derailed her hystrionics) and then go right straight back to what was on those damnable cards.  I wish someone backstage would surreptitiously swap out her cards with ones filled with jibberish.  Can you imagine the red-faced horror when she realized she had to come up with things out of her own noggin?  Please, if any backstage people on The View read here, make this happen.  You know you want to.

[backformore]

15 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:

This is so so true.  Meggie comes out with her blue cards, and come hell or high water she's going to say what's on them.  Doesn't matter if the conversation meanders - as conversations do - in a slightly different direction; it doesn't matter if someone says something that refutes what's on her damn cards; it doesn't matter if facts belie what she's written down on her cheat sheets.  She'll huff and she'll puff (which she actually did today, when Whoopie derailed her hystrionics) and then go right straight back to what was on those damnable cards.  I wish someone backstage would surreptitiously swap out her cards with ones filled with jibberish.  Can you imagine the red-faced horror when she realized she had to come up with things out of her own noggin?  Please, if any backstage people on The View read here, make this happen.  You know you want to.

I already said before, I want Sunny to "accidentally" spill coffee all over MM's blue cards as they're sitting down.     And apologize profusely.  And then do it again the next day. 

[merriebreeze]

What I got from Meghan's word salad about the US withdrawing from the UN Human Rights Council is that we should support Israel at all costs. So many false equivalencies. No bias there, right?

[cecelia45]

I enjoy an interesting, spirited conversation between people, especially those who have different viewpoints. When MM keeps reading from those blue cards, I think it's clear that she is incapable of talking about any subject without those annoying cards! Ana never uses blue cards, at least I have never seen her do that. If those cards should ever be lost or misplaced before air time...yikes...MM would go bonkers!!!!

[Wings]

3 hours ago, cecelia45 said:

I enjoy an interesting, spirited conversation between people, especially those who have different viewpoints. When MM keeps reading from those blue cards, I think it's clear that she is incapable of talking about any subject without those annoying cards! Ana never uses blue cards, at least I have never seen her do that. If those cards should ever be lost or misplaced before air time...yikes...MM would go bonkers!!!!

She loves to quote and cite polls to avoid meaningful off the cuff conversation.  I get frustrated that none of the other hosts ever call her on that.   She needs to be pressed to give her personal opinion on the topic at hand. 

This show needs a talking stick.  

Edited June 21, 2018 by Wings

[OpalNightstream]

Allison Brie is such a loud talker.  I laughed when she said she was “low key” as she’s shouting.

[cecelia45]

5 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

I still remember that Diane Sawyer story, where she exposed those awful orphanages in Romania. That was also an unintended consequence, of the government going too far, when they required every woman to have 5 children each... Babies and children need love as they are developing, it is essential to their health.

Oh my, I haven't thought about those poor Romanian orphans in years. I wonder what happened to them...was there ever a follow up report on their fate? And now we have a similar situation in our very own country. So sickening and tragic at the same time. 

[RedheadZombie]

7 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

Nobody is talking about the long-term effects on these kids. I remember seeing a documentary on captive lions and tigers. They had a segment on tiger cubs who were separated from their mothers to be raised by humans. Both the mother and the cubs would cry for each other for days. These tigers  had problems from their  forced separation, even as adults. So, I wonder what will happen to the kids who will never be reunited with their parents. Who will raise them, who will love them. This is so disgusting. I saw a woman who spoke about her grandparents who had survived the holocaust, even, as adults, they still suffered from having been separated from their parents.  

What concerns me most is the lack of nurturing.  Post WW2, many children died in German orphanages.  They were kept clean and fed, and that was it (as a result of too many orphans and not enough caregivers, rather than a policy forbidding it like the US). They'd experience failure to thrive and eventually die.  It's really frightening because anything could happen in these hidden care centers where the press are forbidden to enter.  Also, this profound neglect created quite a few budding psychopaths in Eastern European orphanages.

[MelP]

What on earth was with Meghan's "American exceptionalism" rubbish? She's trying to do some kind of argument against Sunny by pointing to Sara and saying: "You just described, point blank, a very conservative ideal of American exceptionalism, which I in my whole heart believe with..." Sara's WTF-face was in full gear. She's thinking: "But all I said was I realised how privileged I was to have been born somewhere that wasn't war-torn". I don't know if Meghan knows it but there are many places in the world where people grow up feeling that privilege too, not just the US. Some people may even argue they are better off than in the US even because of the lack of gun violence in their own countries. 

"American exceptionalism" has always seemed to me to be a concept for highly insecure people to wrap themselves in, so suits Meghan to a T!

 

3 hours ago, merriebreeze said:

What I got from Meghan's word salad about the US withdrawing from the UN Human Rights Council is that we should support Israel at all costs. So many false equivalencies. No bias there, right?

Exactly!

[backformore]

3 hours ago, cecelia45 said:

Oh my, I haven't thought about those poor Romanian orphans in years. I wonder what happened to them...was there ever a follow up report on their fate? And now we have a similar situation in our very own country. So sickening and tragic at the same time. 

I don't want to be off topic, so I will answer in the small talk thread as soon as I get a chance.

 

ETA:  http://forums.previously.tv/topic/2343-small-talk-viewers-like-you/?do=findComment&comment=4431571

Edited June 21, 2018 by backformore