"The View": Week Of 4/30/18

[Gemma Violet]

28 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

I generally like Kathy and I assume she was nervous, but, I didn't enjoy the interview at all.

She seemed twice as hyper as she usually does, if that's possible.  It was kind of like she wanted to prove to everyone how happy she is now.

Edited April 30, 2018 by Gemma Violet

[Onceafan]

I wasn't the biggest fan of today's show. First I didn't understand why everyone at the table except for Sunny were giving Tom Brokaw a free pass. They all made it sound like he wasn't guilty of the accusations. Thank you Sunny for voicing your disappointment that NBC wasn't going to investigate the allegations, I feel the same way.

I didn't like the Kathy Griffin interview. I didn't like what she did, regarding that picture, but going into the interview I thought she apologized and I myself was willing to move on and wish her well. But then I watched and she took back the apology and doesn't regret it, so my feelings have changed. Others can go see her but I'm not a fan, since she took back the apology.

Coming from a family of 5 lawyers, and being a social worker, I've always been told I'm too soft hearted, but I didn't find the jokes at the WHCD funny. I like to think I have a sense of humor, but sometimes to me it just sounds like something a bully would say, but it's suppose to be a joke. When it's a female comedian attacking other females it gives off a mean girl mentality to me.

[blondiec0332]

7 minutes ago, Onceafan said:

Coming from a family of 5 lawyers, and being a social worker, I've always been told I'm too soft hearted, but I didn't find the jokes at the WHCD funny. I like to think I have a sense of humor, but sometimes to me it just sounds like something a bully would say, but it's suppose to be a joke. When it's a female comedian attacking other females it gives off a mean girl mentality to me.

I don't have a problem with a female comic making jokes about other women.  Joan Rivers used to do it and she was very funny.  As I mentioned earlier I just didn't think Michelle was funny.  I myself have made jokes about Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Kelly Ann Conaway.  But at the dinner it was like Michelle was  just hurling insults not making jokes.

And I can't say I'm surprised they didn't mention Bill Cosby.

10 minutes ago, Onceafan said:

First I didn't understand why everyone at the table except for Sunny were giving Tom Brokaw a free pass. They all made it sound like he wasn't guilty of the accusations.

I felt the same way.  I'm afraid this going to  happen more and more.  That when people who are considered "likable" are accused there will be less likelihood the accuser will be believed.

[rcc]

There was something off with Whoopi when Kathy was on. Joy asked "Why put yourself through it" but Whoopi didn't seem to give a damn. Whoopi had backlash from her Bush comments just like Kathy and her Trump comments. No empathy from her.

[Poohbear617]

34 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

44 minutes ago, Onceafan said:

First I didn't understand why everyone at the table except for Sunny were giving Tom Brokaw a free pass. They all made it sound like he wasn't guilty of the accusations.

I felt the same way.  I'm afraid this going to  happen more and more.  That when people who are considered "likable" are accused there will be less likelihood the accuser will be believed.

Well I am not sure myself. I'm not looking to argue with anyone on this, quite frankly I am confused.

I do like Brokaw,  and was shocked to hear this accusation. I waited for others to come in and as far as I know, there have been none. If there have been others please correct me. 

Just like I will not vote for a woman strictly because she is a woman, I feel like I am supposed to believe this woman just because I am a woman. I know it takes courage to step forward, buy this has felt different for me for some reason. It like "a woman accused .....you have to believe the woman".  I know no matter what I say here I will be piss off someone and it's not my intention.  How many wanted to believe the woman who accused Aziz  Anzari, the tide turned on that one and yet Aziz has still not.been out in public. This accuser of Brokaw I guess I am a bit curious after all the support and publicity for this, why now over 20 years later, why not last year, what changed to make now the time.  Even tho I don't know this woman, she has not given me a reason to not believe her, but Brokaw has not given me a reason to not believe him either.  This is not Harvey or cosby..I try to listen to each one individually.

Edited April 30, 2018 by Poohbear617

[merriebreeze]

I'm glad that the ladies all came out in support of Michelle Wolf - an equal opportunity skewer. Didn't care for her voice but her remarks were gutsy, brilliant and devastating IMO and sometimes really funny ("Ivanka is about as helpful to women as an empty box of tampons"). As Sara, I think, said - MW was a comedian doing her job. Her harshest words were aimed at Trump and the press themselves. 

 

Didn't Rosie support Kathy G? That's reason enough for Whoopi to be cool towards her. Just today RO posted this comment on her blog:

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Do you remember that day on the view when you were the only that believed all the women that were accusing Bill Cosby of drugging and sexually assaulting them? I do! Rosie that day you showed how genuine and down to earth you are. I will never forget how WG attacked you- shame on her. She is eating crow right now. You ARE THE BEST ROSIE!!!

yes i do

RO later commented that things never really got better after that. 

Edited April 30, 2018 by merriebreeze

[Wings]

I will watch later, maybe.  Doesn’t sound like a good one.  Of course Megan isn’t there.  I misspell her name on purpose.  Or maybe that tweet that was deleted was signaling he is near the end. 

There is something in the air about Brokaw’s accuser that is going to come out, I think.  Someone on some show said one sentence and the inflection in her voice and tone said, to me, hmmmmm.  “Yes, I know this woman.”  

 @Poohbear617 I feel the same way.  

I am not a fan of Kathy but it is tragic for her that she lost friends, in particular Anderson Cooper.  They were very close and he had to disassociate from her due to his career.  

Edited May 1, 2018 by Wings

[maggie263]

Why wouldn't they talk about Cosby?

[GoldenGirl90]

1 hour ago, Gemma Violet said:

She seemed twice as hyper as she usually does, if that's possible.  It was kind of like she wanted to prove to everyone how happy she is now.

 

Good point. 

47 minutes ago, rcc said:

There was something off with Whoopi when Kathy was on.

She had a lot to say about the bloody Trump head thing when it first happened so maybe that's why but I also felt like something was off.

1 hour ago, Onceafan said:

But then I watched and she took back the apology and doesn't regret it, so my feelings have changed.

She actually took the apology back some time ago in another interview, I think. 

Edited April 30, 2018 by Alexis2291

[Medicine Crow]

The Whoopster nevah misses an opportunity to remind everyone of the EIGHT years she was "banned".  A lot of entertainers took their lumps, including my favourites, The Dixie Chicks!!!

[Richard]

Whoopi lecturing Trump on sentence structure was RICH. 

[blondiec0332]

7 minutes ago, Medicine Crow said:

The Whoopster nevah misses an opportunity to remind everyone of the EIGHT years she was "banned".

But she was right.  She herself had a president's "hit squad" come after her for remarks she had made.

 

8 minutes ago, Medicine Crow said:

A lot of entertainers took their lumps, including my favourites, The Dixie Chicks!!!

Which really pisses me off.  And people like Ted Nugent can run around saying all kinds of shit and nothing happens.

[fishsanwitt]

I was waiting for the 'filleting' of Meh-gan, but I'm also glad Elsa stayed away.

Re: the discussion about Michelle Wolf. I expected more emotion from the ladies. More 'yeah' and 'good for her'. It felt kind of muted. I LOVED Michelle Wolf's WHCD monologue. Truth to power!

And Kathy Griffin. Quite manic, but I'm glad she was on. I also appreciated Ana's words to her.

[blondiec0332]

5 minutes ago, fishsanwitt said:

And Kathy Griffin. Quite manic, but I'm glad she was on. I also appreciated Ana's words to her.

That shows you the difference between Ana and Meghan.  Even though Ana disagrees politically with people she still treats them with respect.  

[athousandclowns]

What was her take on the bloody head Alexis2291?? Kathy was hyped up for sure perhaps nervous. She pops up on my FB feed from hotel rooms in Europe and of course much was more relaxed.   I've seen her in concert and she is very high energy. Thanks for the video Richard I must have followed through with my many threats to stop watching (at least some of the time.). No Joy=bad. 

[rcc]

49 minutes ago, merriebreeze said:

I'm glad that the ladies all came out in support of Michelle Wolf - an equal opportunity skewer. Didn't care for her voice but her remarks were gutsy, brilliant and devastating IMO and sometimes really funny ("Ivanka is about as useful to women as an empty box of tampons"). As Sara, I think, said - MW was a comedian doing her job. Her harshest words were aimed at Trump and the press themselves. 

 

Didn't Rosie support Kathy G? That's reason enough for Whoopi to be cool towards her. Just today RO posted this comment on her blog:

RO later commented that things never really got better after that. 

Shame on Whoopi for all of that.

[maggiemae]

I'm glad The View did not win the Emmy - all because of Jedi and McCain, imo. Despite the increased audience.

[GoldenGirl90]

8 minutes ago, athousandclowns said:

What was her take on the bloody head Alexis2291?? Kathy was hyped up for sure perhaps nervous.

I honestly don't understand why she acted so surprised at all the backlash she received. I mean, sure, she's always pushing the envelope but that picture took it too far. It sucks that her good friends like Anderson Cooper distanced themselves from her but c'monnnn! How terrible would it look for a journalist to still associate himself with her after that photo came out?! 

[Apprentice79]

17 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

I honestly don't understand why she acted so surprised at all the backlash she received. I mean, sure, she's always pushing the envelope but that picture took it too far. It sucks that her good friends like Anderson Cooper distanced themselves from her but c'monnnn! How terrible would it look for a journalist to still associate himself with her after that photo came out?! 

In my opinion, Anderson should have reached out to her, behind the scenes.  It really hurt her. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

Okay, so clearly I haven't watched it yet, but based on everyone's comments...I'm not sure why Kathy would be hyper or manic. She was on Bill Maher's show a few months ago, and that show is also live and she was calm, funny and it was a nice interview.

As for Brokaw, the main accuser, Vestra, documented everything; there are a couple more accusers out there; even Brokaw's "letter" admits he did some of it, but then blames it all on "sour grapes" of "failed career" and that's why Vestra is now accusing him. One was a very young production assistant. So there are several women accusing Brokaw. I was never a fan, but still this came as a shock. Walter Cronkite was my source of National News, and after him, it was Peter Jennings for me. I will wail like a banshee if anyone should accuse Uncle Walter. I grew up watching him.

[Former Nun]

2 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

And I can't say I'm surprised they didn't mention Bill Cosby.

Did the jokes go outside politics?

[TV Diva Queen]

She was on Howard Stern a couple weeks ago and was yapping a mile a minute.  She was saying she WASN'T sorry and then starting ratting out secrets of those that didn't stand behind her.  Childish move and in my head, sealed the deal on her fate with them (and me).  

[atlantaloves]

Kathy really acted like she was on speed, which we know would never happen, she was so nervous and really over the top. Still love her, but Good God From Zion woman, get over yourself. I hope her stand up act is normal material and not an hour of her ordeal with Drumpt.  Cause guys, I tell ya, that gal is so funny in person, she is really really DIRTY.  She is worth every cent, and I rarely say that. I love her stand up on the Bravo channel as well. Damn I wish RBM had been on today, sounds like things are headed toward the end. 

[athousandclowns]

I'm agreeing with the poster who figured she was trying to get in all the quips before being talked over by the panel,  even though the one most quilty of that wasn't there. 

So when it first happened Whoopi was surprised at the negative reaction from everyone? Sorry I'm a little thick today. 

I agree about Kathy being hysterical in person my face hurt from laughing. 

Edited May 1, 2018 by athousandclowns

[TheGreenKnight]

2 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

In my opinion, Anderson should have reached out to her, behind the scenes.  It really hurt her. 

I agree. I can understand him distancing himself in public, but the fact that he would turn a cold shoulder out of self-interest proves he was no real friend to her. Selfishly, I think it was good for Kathy's act that she's learned she will never really be the friend of all the celebs she mocks. She had started to go soft on them the past few years when she got more famous and started rubbing shoulders. Hopefully she'll now go back to reaming them the way she used to.

Also, just my opinion, but I didn't think Kathy should have had to apologize for a joke-gone-wrong then, much less do I care that she took back the apology now.

[blondiec0332]

5 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I agree. I can understand him distancing himself in public, but the fact that he would turn a cold shoulder out of self-interest proves he was no real friend to her

When something like that happens you find out who your real friends are.

[Apprentice79]

8 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I agree. I can understand him distancing himself in public, but the fact that he would turn a cold shoulder out of self-interest proves he was no real friend to her. Selfishly, I think it was good for Kathy's act that she's learned she will never really be the friend of all the celebs she mocks. She had started to go soft on them the past few years when she got more famous and started rubbing shoulders. Hopefully she'll now go back to reaming them the way she used to.

Also, just my opinion, but I didn't think Kathy should have had to apologize for a joke-gone-wrong then, much less do I care that she took back the apology now.

Any Cohen turned his back on her too.  He pulled a Mariah Carey and said that he did not know her, on TMZ.. Very shady on his part.  

Edited April 30, 2018 by Apprentice79

[blondiec0332]

1 minute ago, Apprentice79 said:

Andy Cohen turned his back on her too.  He pulled a Mariah Carey and said that he did not know her, on TMZ..

I have never liked Andy Cohen and this proves I was right not to.

[Apprentice79]

On 4/30/2018 at 3:16 PM, blondiec0332 said:

I have never liked Andy Cohen and this proves I was right not to.

I don't care for him, either. I know that it must have burned Kathy, to see him, as a host, on that New Year's Eve show on CNN, with Anderson. Her old job.

Edited May 2, 2018 by Apprentice79

[TheGreenKnight]

2 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

Any Cohen turned his back on her too.  He pulled a Mariah Carey and said that he did not know her, on TMZ..

No surprise there. Unlike Cooper, I have never liked Andy Cohen. He's always been fake, imo.

EDIT: Looks like @blondiec0332 and I had the same thoughts on Cohen, lol.

Edited April 30, 2018 by TheGreenKnight

[ari333]

They gave kathy what seemed like a short segment and she was spewing out as much as she could in the time given. I still like her. That head thing was a bad move, but I understand her feelings. Hence... we cannot always say our exact feelings. She went too far. Even is some people are low, she kind of stooped to their level.

 

I love Ana. 

[GoldenGirl90]

55 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

In my opinion, Anderson should have reached out to her, behind the scenes.  It really hurt her. 

Yeah, you're right. He could have at least said something behind the scenes about why he had to end their friendship. He pretty much just dropped her without saying anything so I agree with you there. I've seen videos of them from years and years ago. They really had great chemistry.

44 minutes ago, Former Nun said:

Did the jokes go outside politics?

Nope. They were pretty much focused on Trump, his administration, the media and politicians. 

[Apprentice79]

Just now, Alexis2291 said:

Yeah, you're right. He could have at least said something behind the scenes about why he had to end their friendship. He pretty much just dropped her without saying anything so I agree with you there. I've seen videos of them from years and years ago. They really had great chemistry.

He also repudiated her in public, on his show. He could have expressed his disagreement, as required, by his employers, without, making it personal.  He did not have to end their friendship.  

[GoldenGirl90]

12 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

He did not have to end their friendship.  

True, but I feel like he was warned by higher-ups to distance himself. 

[Silver Raven]

1 hour ago, blondiec0332 said:

That shows you the difference between Ana and Meghan.  Even though Ana disagrees politically with people she still treats them with respect.  

Ana tweeted her support for Michelle Wolff last night, so I didn't expect anything less today.

[Tanichka]

44 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

No surprise there. Unlike Cooper, I have never liked Andy Cohen. He's always been fake, imo.

EDIT: Looks like @blondiec0332 and I had the same thoughts on Cohen, lol.

Me too!  I loathe Andy!  Why is he on tv?

58 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I agree. I can understand him distancing himself in public, but the fact that he would turn a cold shoulder out of self-interest proves he was no real friend to her. Selfishly, I think it was good for Kathy's act that she's learned she will never really be the friend of all the celebs she mocks. She had started to go soft on them the past few years when she got more famous and started rubbing shoulders. Hopefully she'll now go back to reaming them the way she used to.

Also, just my opinion, but I didn't think Kathy should have had to apologize for a joke-gone-wrong then, much less do I care that she took back the apology now.

I didn’t like the way she weaseled out.  Gutless.

[Coffeewinewater]

I totally agree with Sarah. I read people's reactions before watching the clips. And I was like damn what Michelle Wolf say?  Did she say she'd grab SH pussy?Did she call KC a rapist? Did she say everyone in the room came from shit hole states....nope. I think MW was funny . She did her job if they can't handle it too bad. 

Edited April 30, 2018 by Coffeewinewater
Figured I better change a word.

[ChicagoCita]

I thought Kathy was fine. How perfect to have her on after Team #FakeNews is crying all over the media about how meeeannnnn the jokes were at the White House Correspondents Dinner.

I love seeing Ana there, and I was glad she reminded everyone that she had always voted Republican until this last presidential election. She is exactly the kind of Republican I was raised by. Her politics may drive me nuts, but her personality charms. How very different from the one who usually sits at the table.

Speaking of Meghan, her unannounced absence concerns me, given that she is with her family, and other tweets about her father's health. My guess is that Ana may be there for a while (which is fine with me as a viewer). I do feel for the McCain family.

[Silver Raven]

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Speaking of Meghan, her unannounced absence concerns me, given that she is with her family, and other tweets about her father's health. My guess is that Ana may be there for a while (which is fine with me as a viewer). I do feel for the McCain family.

Wasn't Meghan supposed to be going to the Vatican?

[Jaded]

19 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

He also repudiated her in public, on his show. He could have expressed his disagreement, as required, by his employers, without, making it personal.  He did not have to end their friendship.  

Andy's behavior and attitude has seemed to rub off onto Anderson over the years. I watch Andy's show WWHL on Bravo but it isn't to see him. When Anderson was on WWHL during the time Kathy was getting the most blowback Andy would throw shade at her. The shade more times then not resulted in Anderson letting out giggle laugh he has while giving non answers. The whole thing really made me start giving him the side eye. 

[merriebreeze]

Meghan tweeted (3 hrs ago):

" .  . . and I will be back on @TheView tomorrow!"

[Silver Raven]

5 minutes ago, merriebreeze said:

Meghan tweeted (3 hrs ago):

" .  . . and I will be back on @TheView tomorrow!"

ugh

[Haleth]

Huh.  I'm really surprised.

[Medicine Crow]

I didn't see anything wrong with what Michelle Wolf said about Huckabee-Sanders.  I thought the joke was brilliantly well-crafted & nothing but the truth:  "... burns the facts & uses the ashes to make a perfect smokey eye ... ".  The FACT is, Sarah's "smokey eye" is tragic!!!  Her make-up looks like it was applied by someone who doesn't like her!!!

Edited April 30, 2018 by Medicine Crow
gramma

[bannana]

I wished they had talked about the accusations that Michelle Wolf criticized SHS's looks.  None of her comments were about her looks, but even esteemed journalists were tweeting that they were.  Maybe they are projecting and they had thoughts about her looks.  It was really interesting to follow on twitter.  That was the big issue and if people didn't watch the whole bit, they really didn't get her at all.  

And, in fact, she did criticize men's looks.  Christie and McConnell, but no one made a peep about that.  That is what I expected the ladies of the View to point out, but of course they probably didn't watch it and didn't research it.

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, Medicine Crow said:

I didn't see anything wrong with what Michelle Wolf said about Huckabee-Sanders.  I thought the joke was brilliantly well-crafted & nothing but the truth:  "... burns the facts & uses the ashes to make a perfect smokey eye ... ".  The FACT is, Sarah's "smokey eye" is tragic!!!  Her make-up looks like it was applied by someone who doesn't like her!!!

Well, if we assume that hair and makeup people (IF Sara Huckabee-Sanders has her makeup professionally done, which by the looks of it sometimes is highly doubtful) are Democrats, or dislike the current administration, including Sara, I think it's safe to assume that they are going to mess with her and tell her she looks great....much like our resident Republican sitting at The View desk.    ;-)

[HoboClayton]

The Aunt Lydia joke Michelle made could be construed as Michelle making fun of her looks, but that is only because they themselves look at Sarah and think she is ugly. They are just projecting, like they always do. The reaction is classic sticking to your party regardless of the absolute hypocrisy. Their reaction is typical. What really makes me sick is the people saying that poor little Sarah is a wife and mother so therefore, she's more important than single, childless women.. UGH! It's just so fucking ridiculous and infuriating. Burn in to the fucking ground. 

Edited April 30, 2018 by HoboClayton

[bannana]

6 minutes ago, HoboClayton said:

The Aunt Lydia joke Michelle made could be construed as Michelle making fun of her looks, but that is only because they themselves look at Sarah and think she is ugly. They are just projecting, like they always do. The reaction is classic sticking to your party regardless of the absolute hypocrisy. Their reaction is typical. What really makes me sick is the people saying that poor little Sarah is a wife and mother so therefore, she's more important than single, childless women.. UGH! It's just so fucking ridiculous and infuriating. Burn in to the fucking ground. 

And the Aunt Lydia joke was about the character, which is actually far more insulting than comparing her appearance.  Too bad no one got that.

21 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Well, if we assume that hair and makeup people (IF Sara Huckabee-Sanders has her makeup professionally done, which by the looks of it sometimes is highly doubtful) are Democrats, or dislike the current administration, including Sara, I think it's safe to assume that they are going to mess with her and tell her she looks great....much like our resident Republican sitting at The View desk.    ;-)

Oh, I have tidbit, I don't recall where I saw this, but the Mooch did say that one of the things he accomplished in his 11 day tenure was to get hair and makeup people for Suckabee.

[Ladyrain]

2 hours ago, Coffeewinewater said:

I totally agree with Sarah. I read people's reactions before watching the clips. And I was like damn what Michelle Wolf say?  Did she say she'd grab SH pussy?Did she call KC a rapist? Did she say everyone in the room came from shit hole states....nope. I think MW was funny . She did her job if they can't handle it too bad. 

Brava!  Perfectly said.  Nothing MW talked about was worse than what SHS's boss says on a regular basis.  And when he talks like that, he's not joking.  And Michelle Wolf is not President of The United States of America.  That's a huge difference, with completely different expectations. ----  Anyway, I just love your post.

[Former Nun]

3 hours ago, Alexis2291 said:

4 hours ago, Former Nun said:

Did the jokes go outside politics?

Nope. They were pretty much focused on Trump, his administration, the media and politicians. 

And that, my friends, is why poor misunderstood Bill Cosby wasn't mentioned.