S06.E08: Love Languages

[DangerousMinds]

17 hours ago, Jazzhands said:

I thought that seemed awfully high.  I remember reading on Reality Steve’s website that the leads on The Bachelor/ette typically get $100,000 per season, and that’s a top-rated show on a major network. 

If they did get that much, though, I could probably pretend to be fake-married to some stranger for a few weeks.  I enjoy coming here to get other people’s take on the show because most of my friends haven’t even heard of it and I don’t know a single person who actually watches it.  I’m old, though.  

Tonight’s episode was strange.  Watching them acting out fantasies was really cringeworthy.  The stripper pole in the kitchen especially. 

The thing is - isn't it a real, legal marriage?

[Gem 10]

I for one enjoyed last nights episode.  Husband and I were hysterical at Shawnice's dance on the pole in that cheap store outfit with those hilarious boots.  She was going down the pole, totally unsexy and fell on her but.  Shawnice is a jewel.  She can make fun of herself without being embarrassed.  She is always appreciative when Jep gives her things. I hope he realizes how precious she is.  I hope he's not in for the money.

I love Jacklyn.  She's quiet, agreeable and just nice.  She knows that Ryan could give her a good life financially and not boring as he's up to almost everything.  She would have to buy a good set of earplugs tho, and be very energetic as he's all over the place.  Right now, she wants to see more of him.  After awhile, she won't mind him doing his hobbies, as she will value time to herself or with her friends.  That stripping fireman dance didn't work tho as he's not the type for that and clearly Jacklyn was more embarrassed.  Damn those producers.   Overall, Ryan would be a good husband and father it seems.

Molly & Jon .. She might be in for the money.  I liked when he told her off.  He was trying to make a good point that she had sex or whatever one night, and nothing with him after five weeks.  The guy went over and beyond for her.  Too much IMO.  She came back at him like a snake.  I have NO idea why he likes her.  Looks fade.  He is making an ass of himself.

Who knows the outcome.  We could be surprised.  I can't wait.  Interesting.

[Jazzhands]

38 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

The thing is - isn't it a real, legal marriage?

That’s what they say on the show, but I’ve always wondered if that’s actually true.  Most states require you both to appear together, in person, to obtain your marrriage license at a county clerk’s office and provide proof of identity and attest to consent to and lack of impediments to marriage.  So I always wondered whether there were some shenanigans happening in that either the couples have actually already met before the ceremony when they get the license, or else the ceremony where they see each other for the first time is a sham for TV and then they go get the license and have a courthouse or private ceremony that’s not shown or discussed on TV.  

[calpurnia99]

1 hour ago, DangerousMinds said:

The thing is - isn't it a real, legal marriage?

it's a real and BINDING marriage! you forgot the word BINDING! and they are strangers! Which means they JUST MET and also means THEY DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER. 

[LennieBriscoe]

From the "Be Careful What You Wish For" Dept:

I liked aloof Jephte better than giggling, dollar-throwing, fake-o luvva-boy Jephte. 

Molly: "At this point I'm not attracted." That is not the equivalent of "Not tonight, Dear; I've got a headache." It's the equivalent of "I wouldn't walk up to you in a bar; I would walk away if you approached me in a bar; there isn't enough booze in that bar." Jon should simply treat Molly as his room-mate, talk about neutral topics, and sleep on the couch.

Ryan: Um, were those real tools on your tool-belt, Carpenter Bro? And then you straddled Jaclyn BEFORE removing them and it? Should've been the Sexy Fireman, Ryan, 'cause, you know, FIRE!

Edited February 28, 2018 by LennieBriscoe

[sandwoman]

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She said it happened in college. People get a lot of their crazy partying/sleeping around done in college and become more conservative as they age.

Sure... But Molly is 25! College was 3 years ago! What happened?? There's something we're missing. 

[LennieBriscoe]

14 minutes ago, sandwoman said:

What happened?? There's something we're missing. 

Molly saw and apparently still sees Jon as "a 12-year-old."

What her gig as "Red-Headed Rebecca" was, THAT'S what I'd like to know!

[Kiss my mutt]

What I want to know is if Molly actually ended up having the threesome? 

[kira28]

What was up with some of Molly's voice overs? They sounded different almost didn't sound like her voice.. Molly is am uptight bitch but Jon is kind of frat boy annoying with the pressuring her for sex. I thought Jon was sorta joking about the red head thing just to have somethjg to say that wouldn't offend Molly's sister

 Not sure if I believe jephte turn around. When Shawniece gets close and has her hands on him his hands  were on the table. He made no move to touch her

 The  strip tease was dumb. She did not look cute. 

I feel bad for Jacklyn. I don't think ryan is into her anymore. I dated  a workaholic who was also a firefighter when I was in my 20s. Was engaged to him we lived together and we saw each other one day a week!! He left for work before I got up, he got home from his first job and left for his 2nd job while I was still at work. Most nights he'd get home after I was asleep.. He didn't need to work the 2nd job with my income bit he wanted to. He skipped the 2nd job one night a week to go to training at the Fire Station. Even when they didn't have required training he'd go hang out at the fire station. Sometimes I'd go with him but it wasn't my idea of fun. Often on the one day a week we did have time together he would go help his  parents or do work for friends.  When I'd ask him for more time he'd freak out get angry and accuse me of wanting someone who was unemployed and had no hobbies.  It was lonely though I tried to make the best of it. We were basically strangers even after years. I left him and he promised he'd change but i didnt go back and the best feeling ever was the feeling of partners who realized time together is important and wanted to spend most of their time with me. To this day over ten years later my ex is still single lol. If Ryan isnt Making time from jac now when it's new and exciting he won't compromise later. He wants someone to just fit herself into his life and deal with it. He doesn't want to have to change anything. 

What Jon doesn't understand is the fact that in normal hookups or relationships both parties are totally into each other and have chosen one another and agree on the level of interest. In this scenario u stuck 2 strangers who aren't sure if there is any interest into an instant relationship. So yeah I can see it taking awhile to figure out if the other person is someone you want to sleep with 

[Drogo]

Two things:

1) Shawnice is the cutest fucking thing ever.  

2) John- she doesn't owe you shit, and your laugh is death. 

[After7Only]

8 hours ago, Deni said:

I noticed in this episode that Molly was doing voice overs. Differently than what you guys call “talking heads” where they show the person being interviewed then may show other stuff while they’re still talking.  It was as if she recorded audio in post-production. I didn’t notice anyone else doing that. Also, Molly looked more natural in those shots of her standing in the living room talking/being interviewed. Her hair wasn’t blown-out or flat ironed and she just looked happier somehow.

I noticed the same with the voice overs.  Molly’s voice overs did her no favors as she sounds even more monotone and bland.   I’d guess she said something completely different when she filmed her interviews for the talking heads, or she refused or wasn’t available for the talking head interviews.   Will be interesting if we see talking heads in future episodes or if we will continue to get the bland voice overs

[humbleopinion]

Unfiltered had Jackie and Jephte watching JO talk too much.

Jackie barely got a word in when asked to rehash the boxes scenes.

Jephte showed up and  rumbled that he didn't sleep in a bed until he was 13 years old so sleeping on the floor was normal.

[Adeejay]

5 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

The thing is - isn't it a real, legal marriage?

 If you can prove that the marriage wasn't consummated, I think you have the right to get it annulled.  That should also be the case if the marriage was consummated but it was under duress or if one party wasn't of sound mind.  I am not buying what "the experts" are selling.  There has to be a way to get around this "legally binding" b.s. 

[Gem 10]

8 hours ago, Indy USAF said:

I just can't get into this group?  How do they manage to select 2-3 people out of 6 that won't even make an effort?  What was the girls name from the New Jersey season that didn't find the guy attractive on their wedding day?  She gave him a chance and he ended up being the jerk of the two (Ryan?  He reminds me of this Ryan as well.  He's convinced himself that he's a nice guy, but he's selfish and a shitty partner).  Molly doesn't even make an effort.  90 day fiancé is far superior.  I have one myself and trust me when I see its not easy and a lot of work.  You are really invested after you do all that unlike MAFS.

Her name was Jacqueline, the Vodka rep, and he was "basement Ryan" who was a real estate broker on Long Island who lived in his Mother's basement.

[biakbiak]

2 hours ago, Adeejay said:

 If you can prove that the marriage wasn't consummated, I think you have the right to get it annulled.  That should also be the case if the marriage was consummated but it was under duress or if one party wasn't of sound mind.  I am not buying what "the experts" are selling.  There has to be a way to get around this "legally binding" b.s. 

Very few states allow for annulment because of non consummation anymore, in Mass you have to prove that the person is not physically capable of sexual intercourse whuch clearly isn't the case. 

I always imagined that after the wedding, they got the license.

[humbleopinion]

M@FS marriages are legal marriages because the cast has to file for divorce to get rid of their mismatch....

[crazychicken]

I know this is off topic (sorry mods) a participant from last years New Zealand MAFS is currently trying to get his marriage annulled as he says they can not legally consent to marriage with a stranger. It will be interesting what comes out in the case if it goes ahead.

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/101592580/married-at-first-sight-marriages-may-be-illegal

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV podcast on the episode!

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We get into who's stripping down and wigging out in our latest Bride & Doom podcast!

[glitterpussy]

20 hours ago, calpurnia99 said:

it's a real and BINDING marriage! you forgot the word BINDING! and they are strangers! Which means they JUST MET and also means THEY DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER. 

THE STAKES ARE HIGH!!  THE STAKES COULDN'T BE HIGHER!!!

[Lusterleaf]

Poor Jon. I hope they put him on MAFS Second Chances- I'm sure they'll be a line of women trying to compete for him. Molly comes up as superficial and stuck up. There must be some sort of cash payout in the end if they stay all the way through the 8 weeks because I'm sure she would have left by now.

I'd still like to know what happened with Jephte and Shawniece that he just did a total 180, there was no explanation to the viewers.

[Madding crowd]

I'm still not sure I trust Jephte and his sudden turn around. Shawniece seems like a sweetheart and I hope he doesn't break her heart. Jaclyn seems like a nice person and I think she is really trying to make things work. I don't care for Ryan, either looks or personality, but if Jaclyn likes him its good.

In regard to Molly: Of course no one should be forced to have sex against their will. But if you agree to actually marry a stranger you should be willing to show some affection or at least make some effort to find a common place. I don't understand her saying she is attracted to Jon, but doesn't want to do any thing relationship-y. Why go on the show then? I think Jon is a nice guy and handsome and I think he genuinely didn't understand why Molly would admit to be pretty free sexually but yet refuse to even kiss him. 

Edited to add: My son has a super deep voice like Jephte and we are constantly asking him to repeat things because we dont understand him. He gets really annoyed. 

Edited March 1, 2018 by Madding crowd

[humbleopinion]

Between Jephte's cryptic comments and Shawniece's coy remarks it was Shawniece's allowing Jephte to mistreat her, reject her, blame her for his anger and the  infringement of his  privacy when in fact it was the show that was causing his discomfort.

She never gave up on him or the show but waited him out.

When they moved into the house,  Jephte was wrote her the card and put the rose in her hat box as an apology.

She accepted his apology and was rewarded with sexy time and a model husband.

The next day was their party, Jephte even bragged that marriage wasn't so bad... shocking his friends.

Jephte's friend Antonio, gets credit for turning Jephte around.

The show should hire Antonio and get rid their useless "experts."

[glitterpussy]

This show is messing with my emotions. Now I like Jephte and Jon again.

Shawniece's stripper pole was cringe worthy but it was kinda hot how he scooped her up and carried her off after. I'd hit that.

Molly is a straight up bitch. Listen if you don't want to fuck him, fine, but you wanted to be MARRIED. Typically that does involve sex. At least try. Kiss, hug, something. She has some deep seated issues that have little to do with Jon. And that wig was UGH! I thought she was going to dye her hair red. Should have known that was too relationship-y! I didn't think she could be less attractive but then she put on that fright. I do not blame Jon a bit for blowing up after all that. She keeps stringing him along--if it's never gonna happen, she needs to tell him. I call bullshit on the threesome ever happening also. That's a story she tells, to pretend to be fun and interesting. She's the least fun person I've ever seen.

I thought I had reached peak secondhand embarrassment with Shawniece's wedding day lapdance, but then we got Ryan in his carpenter outfit. My eyes, my eyes...The best was when he sucked in his stomach so hard, but then forgot later and it flopped over his undies...lmao. 

[scruffy73]

I thought Shawniece and Jephte were funny. The pole in the kitchen!  That tickled me so! That she had shorts on under her outfit! Tickled me! The hat falling off! Ha! Her falling down the pole! Hahahahaha! Jephte picking her up and carrying her to the bed.....hawttttt I know he put it in her that night. Lolllll

Ryan is cringeworthy. He tries so hard but looks so lame. Jackie might get over his antics sooner than later but I hope they work it out. For some reason I think they can.

Jon and Molly...sigh...terrible. She tricked him with the wig and “Rebecca” and the pajamas. I understand not just having sex with someone until you’re ready. I’m good with that. But can a chick KISS her husband? Hug him? Cuddle? Something? Clearly something changed by next episode since they were cool in the previews but what could have turned them around?

Speaking of turning around, did we miss a “maybe we shouldn’t be together” convo with Jephte and Shawniece or is that coming later? Jephte might flip the script again so, although I am LOVING them right now, I’m scared he will return to his old ways.

[gonecrackers]

Molly should've reminded Jon she was just doing what the contract required; he probably forgot in the purplish/red heat of the moment.

The fight was ugly, but, oh well, anniversary celebration next week... either they are a total farce or getting paid very well.

Shawniece & Jephte are on opposite ends of the personality spectrum. They'll either balance each other out or drive each other insane.

Sex doesn't seem to have a calming effect on Shawniece.

Ryan: 

Carpentry -check
Firefighter - check
Gaming & other activities - check
Wife - check

...she's there for when he has nothing else to do.

And Mr. Fireman, you should know all those candles are a fire hazard.

Between Ryan's nasty display & Jamie's extra scary weird faces on Unfiltered, this show has hit viewers below the belt.

[Gem 10]

Molly .. Goes to bed with her turtleneck and her phone, and her HUSBAND is there probably salivating.  She is mean.  If she doesn't want to sleep with him, she should come clean and tell him why.  She's got some nerve, and he's a dope.  Unless, they are told to act that way for drama. Who knows.   If that's the case, why are we watching?even if she decides to try and have sex, her personality and entitlement stink.  I think he would tire of her quickly.  She looks like she couldn't lift a finger and a good wind would blow her away.  

[Gobears]

18 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

If she doesn't want to sleep with him, she should come clean and tell him why.  She's got some nerve, and he's a dope.

She did come clean and tell him why--she's not attracted to him but she's trying to get to a place where her attraction to him can grow. 

[Gem 10]

I mean the REAL TRUTH like she told the therapist he acted like a twelve year old.  She's probably trying to get to the place where she will collect the 10 grand or whatever the amount is.

[Gobears]

In the previous episode, Jonathan told someone that he thought if he had met Molly at a bar and hit on her that she would not been responsive to his advances. This episode, his suspicions about her lack of attraction to him was confirmed and he lashed out. You can't make someone want you if they don't want to. I think he should just back off, play it cool and see how Molly responds. 

[humbleopinion]

Molly has taken a page out of Danielle's playbook...

Keep your husband/paycheck on the show/fulfill the contract at all costs...

Jon has cable TV to keep him occupied while Molly is at work, Cody had the dogs, Homie and  Dude to keep him company.

Molly keeps leading Jon on with false sense of hope that she can get back to the place when she can get as comfortable with him as she was on the day they got married as strangers.

Molly feels nothing but friendship but is trying to get back to Square One (wedding day) since the physical relationship has gone backasswards since the wedding day.

Jon had nothing to lose by confronting her and getting angry with her playing games.

He just gave her an real reason to not be attracted to him...calling her out on her BS.

Jon should just collect his per diem, enjoy watching ESPN on his couch all day in his rent free apartment, send out resumes, do what show stunts the producers have scripted for him and coast until D Day.

[Jack Sampson]

3 hours ago, Gobears said:

In the previous episode, Jonathan told someone that he thought if he had met Molly at a bar and hit on her that she would not been responsive to his advances. This episode, his suspicions about her lack of attraction to him was confirmed and he lashed out. You can't make someone want you if they don't want to. I think he should just back off, play it cool and see how Molly responds. 

Jon's not an ugly dude.  He'd do better to back off Molly completely and see how other women respond.

[gonecrackers]

It started to unravel for Molly when Jon confessed he lost his job due to the marriage. She played it cool, but wasn't feeling it.

Jon's playfulness during the honeymoon further killed it for her.  By that time you could stick a fork in her 'cuz she was already done.

[Gem 10]

What a big mess this season is.  The worst ever.  I just can't figure it out with the editing and all.  Who's playing games, who's cold, who's hot to trot, etc.. Geeeeze !

[Lily247]

Jon needs to ignore Molly. Seriously. Sleep on the couch, be civil but not give her a second glance. Then see how she responds to that. 

[humbleopinion]

Agreed.

Just go about his Jon routines.. sleep naked on his side of the bed...make a pillow wall so he don't accidentally touch her with his body parts.

Do the scripted scenes, play the doting husband but no more emotional investment.

Work out to get ripped, walking around the apartment sweaty and eye candy for the camera.

You may as well get some free TV exposure  to show the ladies of Boston what will be on the market after the show and your divorce.

Have fun with the crew...make them Team Jon, they will be your friends after this experience... not Molly.

Edited March 2, 2018 by humbleopinion

[Lovecat]

On 2/28/2018 at 6:00 PM, Jazzhands said:

That’s what they say on the show, but I’ve always wondered if that’s actually true.  Most states require you both to appear together, in person, to obtain your marrriage license at a county clerk’s office and provide proof of identity and attest to consent to and lack of impediments to marriage.  So I always wondered whether there were some shenanigans happening in that either the couples have actually already met before the ceremony when they get the license, or else the ceremony where they see each other for the first time is a sham for TV and then they go get the license and have a courthouse or private ceremony that’s not shown or discussed on TV.  

I'm pretty sure the ceremony we see on teevee *is* the first time they meet, but it's not a legal ceremony.  I think I read somewhere that they go to get their marriage licenses the next day, and are "legally" married by a judge or JP.  Makes me wonder why no one has noped out between the fake ceremony and the legal ceremony, but they might be obligated by contract to file all the paperwork to make the marriage legal.

[izabella]

3 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

It started to unravel for Molly when Jon confessed he lost his job due to the marriage. She played it cool, but wasn't feeling it.

Jon's playfulness during the honeymoon further killed it for her.  By that time you could stick a fork in her 'cuz she was already done.

Molly was never, ever, ever going to forgive Jon for driving through that puddle and getting her muddy, especially her hair and make-up.  No way, never.

[humbleopinion]

Poor Jon...  the window for banging Molly shut by Day 6...it was literally and figuratively the end of the honeymoon period.

Molly's libido went from the Ceremony Level 20 to  level 8 when he mentioned his joblessness at their first glass of bubbly...

He had to tell her because he was afraid one of his friends, family would have blabbed about his unemployment status at the reception.

She was disappointed but went into full actress mode pretending to be happy  for her family and friends.

Jon's constant jokes, 12 year old  boy behaviors like teasing, self deprecating humor brought her Libido to a 5...

The ATV mud bath put her Libido at -10.

Negative ten on the Libido scale means no way is he going to get a make out session, she can barely stand for him to be in the same room as her, she is pretending hard to be friends with him.

As soon as the camera is off she is back on "Frosty."

[Jazzhands]

3 hours ago, Lovecat said:

I'm pretty sure the ceremony we see on teevee *is* the first time they meet, but it's not a legal ceremony.  I think I read somewhere that they go to get their marriage licenses the next day, and are "legally" married by a judge or JP.  Makes me wonder why no one has noped out between the fake ceremony and the legal ceremony, but they might be obligated by contract to file all the paperwork to make the marriage legal.

Thanks — that makes a lot of sense. 

[Jeanne222]

On 3/1/2018 at 10:19 AM, Tara Ariano said:

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV podcast on the episode!

Married At First Sight Constructs An Episode Around Fantasies Because It Hates Its Viewers

We get into who's stripping down and wigging out in our latest Bride & Doom podcast!

Sooo would this be the 'talk' down at the fire station?  Those guys are pretty macho.  Thinking calendar?

[Neurochick]

20 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

Jon should just collect his per diem, enjoy watching ESPN on his couch all day in his rent free apartment, send out resumes, do what show stunts the producers have scripted for him and coast until D Day.

And Jon should also bring back the cat, who was showing him more affection that his "wife."

[Gem 10]

13 hours ago, Neurochick said:

And Jon should also bring back the cat, who was showing him more affection that his "wife."

I'm pretty sure the cat is back as some of us saw the tail passing by in the background as they were talking to the therapist in their apartment.   Maybe the cat problem was all bullshit.

[Scorpiosunshine]

A few thoughts (and one big cringe-worthy admission):

I don't really have one type when it comes to men. Though I've usually ended up with a certain type as far as long-term relationships, that's just how it worked out. I've dated, loved, and am attracted to many types (oddly, my 2 fave type are complete opposites). I just wanted to make those points before I say these things: 

Ryan isn't my type; his incessant chatter would exhaust me, and I wouldn't go for him as far as what I am seeing on television. I don't think he's unattractive, it's just that he reminds me of a certain type of guy--one who usually works my nerves. Cringe admission: I thought he looked dorky as hell but also sort of sexy in his fireman gear, at least from the waist down. My eyes kept going to that little back-curve above his ass. No worries -- I hate myself for even typing all that, lol. It was all offset by the tighty-whities peeking out, so it was a short-lived moment anyway, lol. Please confiscate my remote and smash my DVR. Thanks.

 

 Jon and Molly:

While I've had my share of purely physical relationships, mostly I tend to work my way into physical intimacy and ultimately sex.  In all of my long-term relationships, I don't think I had sex with the guy before 3-ish months.  Cuddling? Yes!  Kissing? Yes! Making out? Yes!  Lots and lots of making out, getting so close to sex that I almost couldn't stand it? Yes, please!  To me, that was part of the fun, part of what made it so hot--the anticipation and the progression of going from nervous first date to the second date, to handholding, to kissing, to boyfriend, to various levels of making out, to sex.  I say all that to make the point that even with the accelerated relationship, I would be OK with not having had sex yet. Yes, things are accelerated, but there still shouldn't be expectations or a time limit on actual sex.

Based purely on the timeline, I don't find it abnormal that they haven't had sex.  At the same time, I'd definitely be cuddling, kissing, holding hands, making out, etc.  Molly is so distant and they have no intimacy, even when she's draped across him. I have more intimacy with my male friends, or hell, people I just met. I would expect some sort of something, like maybe cuddling during a movie. (You can't build intimacy by creating more distance.)

I do get what Molly was saying about finding a guy attractive but not being attracted to Jon. John is one of those guys I think is attractive, but to whom I wouldn't necessarily be attracted. There are plenty of men I can look at and know they are attractive, but still not be physically/sexually attracted to them. It just doesn't work that way.  I think one of the issues is that maybe Jon doesn't understand that, AND there are some mixed signals going on.

I really don't get why Molly put on that red wig. She knew it was Jon's "fantasy", so it was weird to me that she'd even go there.  Why put on the wig, sit in his lap, talk it up, and mentally grind on his dick? She's talking about fantasies and shit all while doing everything but locking herself in a chastity belt! She has NO obligation to sleep with him (and who'd want that kind of sex anyway?), but if you're not attracted, why go there? It's no wonder John lost his shit. He's confused. What he said was assholish and juvenile, and I don't excuse it; I do chalk it up to frustration and hurt feelings.

I am glad Molly admitted that she isn't attracted to him. That was the right thing to do, even if it hurt Jon. I hate for anyone to get their feelings hurt, but it's much better to know the truth. There is no easy way to tell someone you're not attracted to them, but one way you don't do it is by dressing up like "Red-headed fantasy girl Rebecca" and teasing something that isn't going to happen.

On another note, I thought John looked sexy as hell in one of his angry talking heads. He was in a green shirt and doing a talking head after the wig drama, then he says he needs to talk to Molly, and then they have the fight in bed. After that is another talking head, but in it he's wearing a red t-shirt. I thought he looked sexy as hell in the red shirt talking-head. It must have been the stubble and blue balls, lol.

I wonder why Molly thought this show would be a good fit for her. This type of commitment demands going outside of one's comfort zone and being intimate (not sex) with a stranger -- this show is based around all the relationshipy stuff that Molly wants to avoid. I really don't get it.

 

Jephte and Shawniece were adorable this week!  Their sexual chemistry has obviously taken off, and I hope the non-sexual intimacy can match/keep up with that.

Edited March 4, 2018 by Scorpiosunshine

[ElectricCityy]

Jon started his argument with some good points and I too believe that Molly is just going through the motions. However, him questioning her sexual past and basically whining because she wouldn't sleep with him killed any sympathy I had. You shouldn't be rewarded with sex just because you did a nice thing, buddy. He came across as entitled and confirmed what Molly thought all along, he's a boy. Meh. I wouldn't want him after that either.

[Gem 10]

Scorpiosunshine ..  Great post and so true.   You can't beat the first attraction, first date, first kiss, making out ( the best) and anticipation of seeing one another again and again.  Petting in the car, fights, and making up.  These couples didn't have that .. Just dove straight in .. Or not.  Yes it is hard to explain, and in my own life, those two years before marriage were the best in my life.  BTW, I myself, don't care much for muscles or men like Ryan in the fireman's outfit, and I hate men's strip clubs, but, give me a clean shaven guy in a great looking suit & tie, and that's for me.  Jon looked  hot in that suit when he made dinner for Molly.  He has to curb down that laugh tho .. It's a little scary.  

[ramble]

This episode gave me more second hand embarrassment than chaperoning a junior high dance. The stripper pole dance? The construction worker bit? The red wig  monstrosity? I don’t care about what gets you going in the privacy of your own home, but why, oh why, would you agree to do that crap on tv? Stupid question I know. These folks agreed to put all their crap on tv. 

I’m still not sure I believe Jepthe’s turnaround. Something about him doesn’t ring true to me. Shawneice is beginning to grate on my nerves too. Her voice and the constant giggling make me twitchy. 

Anymore I can’t tell if Ryan is in this for real or just on for tv. I do like Jaclyn. She is coming across sincere and invested.

Molly may be a cold fish but Jon saying how he’s never not scored in a suit hit me all wrong. I think they’re both used to being all that & a bag of salt and vinegar chips to the person they’re with. I also felt what Molly was saying. If the attraction isn’t there it’s hard to make it suddenly appear. I think they should have an off camera conversation and just be friendly and fake it until this is done.  

I can’t decide if any of these three have a chance past six months. I say no on J&M, probably not on J&S, and possibly on R&J. Although if Jephte is real he and Shawneice could be the surprise. 

[princelina]

2 hours ago, Scorpiosunshine said:

I really don't get why Molly put on that red wig. She knew it was Jon's "fantasy", so it was weird to me that she'd even go there.  Why put on the wig, sit in his lap, talk it up, and mentally grind on his dick? She's talking about fantasies and shit all while doing everything but locking herself in a chastity belt! She has NO obligation to sleep with him (and who'd want that kind of sex anyway?), but if you're not attracted, why go there? It's no wonder John lost his shit. He's confused. What he said was assholish and juvenile, and I don't excuse it; I do chalk it up to frustration and hurt feelings.

I am glad Molly admitted that she isn't attracted to him. That was the right thing to do, even if it hurt Jon. I hate for anyone to get their feelings hurt, but it's much better to know the truth. There is no easy way to tell someone you're not attracted to them, but one way you don't do it is by dressing up like "Red-headed fantasy girl Rebecca" and teasing something that isn't going to happen.

Great post!  My thoughts about what Jon said were that I wouldn't have told the threesome story to a guy I had no intention of sleeping with.  (I didn't realize that she had told it to the cameras herself to make them think she was fun enough to do the show.)  So I don't think he was "slut-shaming" but pointing out that she doesn't want anything to do with him and he's tired of being strung along.  

[Jassie99]

I do want to add that I don't the issue is Molly doesn't want to have sex with Jon. I have no issue with that at all and don't think its Jon main complaint. I think he has been super patient  but is frustrated by the lack of intimacy. She doesn't really want to cuddle, kiss, or hold hands. She refers to stuff as too relationship-y.  That's as annoying or more so then when Jep kept saying Shawniece was a stranger. Its not that she wasn't a stranger cause "duh"lol, more so why did you sign up for the show if you're not willing to open yourself up.  She says she usually is friends with guys first and for a long time which is fine in normal life but I doubt she isn't cuddle up or kissing a guy she's been dating for 2 months which is the equivalent to how long they been together when you look at time spent together.  Its seems like she's not trying and wasn't open to what the premise of the show was so one asks "why sign up?".

I do find it funny how Jon was like we are the same person and I just don't see it. Like at all. Maybe we need to see more of the funny, outgoing Molly if one exist. Cause I just don't see why Jon is attracted to her at all.  Looks fade and that initial OMG so HOT! wears away once you get know someone and I don't get in her personality why he likes her. But then for me if it was Roman Reigns or Jason Moma I probably would put up with it for a little bit longer too, lol Though those guys are way out my league (and married :( )  but I would think a Jon a good looking guy, smart, funny and outgoing would have dated women at least as pretty. Confuses me. Wish we got more of his perspective on his attraction to her or is it just "I signed up for this show, she's my wife and I'm all in regardless" And I can respect that.

Edited March 4, 2018 by Jassie99

[Waterlilly]

This is the only show that I live for the forum, I love you guys!  I wonder where Snarkel is?

some thoughts;

 

Ryan:  does he read romance novels in his spare time?  Jacque is trying soooo hard, bless her heart.

Jon:  back off some dude, you are trying too hard and then play dirty when you get frustrated.  I spend most of their scenes looking for a Dawn photo bomb, lol.

Jephte and Shawnee:  loved the roller skating date!

[gonecrackers]

13 hours ago, ramble said:

Molly may be a cold fish but Jon saying how he’s never not scored in a suit hit me all wrong. I think they’re both used to being all that & a bag of salt and vinegar chips to the person they’re with.

They each have enough self-love & admiration without a partner along for the ride.

13 hours ago, ramble said:

I can’t decide if any of these three have a chance past six months.

Depends on who gets an offer they cannot refuse... I wait for the one year divorce announcements now. Contracts make, & then break, most of these 'marriages'.

2 hours ago, Waterlilly said:

Ryan:  does he read romance novels in his spare time?

He has no spare time, hence the verbal diarrhea he thinks will keep wifey happy & not interfering with the myriad of activities that don't include her.

This week he babbled something about the 'darkness of Jaclyn's heart' - it's DEPTHS, Ryan, you idiot. She will wake up one day & kick herself for allowing his tool belt anywhere near her.

There are not enough vitamins, supplements, or major medications on the globe to cure Ryan's foot-in-mouth disease.