S08.E09: That Was Weird

[Carolina Girl]

47 minutes ago, BBHN said:

Camille brought up the word first, but yeah. Doh-rit made the twelve comment.

C'mon, Camille, get that diamond!

Oh, I had NO problem with Camille's use of Tattletale.  Because that's exactly what it was.  After reading your comment, I realized Camille had - either intentionally or unwittingly - given a second dig at DOR-it using the term that children use for snitching.  

[BBHN]

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that Erika wasn't just trying to tough it out only to change her mind and leave at the last minute.

It looked that way to me...

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Erika planned it all along and yes, it was handled in a weird way. Just tell them upfront that you'd rather stay in a hotel. There was no reason for her to bring up her period at all if she didn't want it discussed. 

If she hadn't brought up her period, people would have been speculating what the reason was and whether she was faking it or not. Hell, she gave a reason, and people are doing just that...

[Jel]

We've seen Erika over a couple of years now, and I think, based on what we "know" about her, she'd have exactly zero problem saying right up front that she'd rather stay at a hotel.  

[BBHN]

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Oh, I had NO problem with Camille's use of Tattletale.  Because that's exactly what it was.  After reading your comment, I realized Camille had - either intentionally or unwittingly - given a second dig at DOR-it using the term that children use for snitching.  

Yeah. Go Camille!

[Misslindsey]

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She's hardly "unself-aware."  In fact, she pokes fun at herself in her blogs all the time.  In fact, I think that's exactly what she's doing when she mentions the accountability thing. And butthurt weeping? Hardly.  Having tears in ones ones does not equal weeping.  

I agree that Teddi is very self aware, more so than a lot of these women. In her blogs and social media she pokes fun at herself and admits when she could have handled things better. As someone who has been known to cry when I get frustrated I feel for her there as well. Someone mentioned upthread that Teddi seems pretty genuine with her reactions and I would agree with that. She does not come off fake or like she is only presenting a certain side of herself for the cameras. 

[zoeysmom]

7 minutes ago, CaughtOnTape said:

Dorit is a disgusting, vile human being and I hope she gets fired because watching how she operates is disturbing.  She's one of those people who knows exactly what she's doing and she doesn't care and I'm glad Kyle goes apeshit on her in the next episode.  I sympathized with her last season because of the way Rinna went after her for seemingly innocent things, but she's just scary to watch now.

And while Erika hasn't done anything to make me wish her off the show....yet....I really hate that she never apologizes for how she makes other people feel.  The "I don't need anymore petting" comment was really rude and uncalled for and she seems like she justified it because of some perceived slight from Teddi.  Teddi seems fairly harmless and innocent with good intentions and the fact that Erika could so brashly dust her off when she was trying to sympathize really irritated me.  Like yeah, if Dorit had been offering sympathy?  Tell her to knock it off.  But Teddi doesn't strike me as fake or that she offers fake sympathy.  Which makes Erika look like she's beating up on someone because she can.  It made her look like a bully.

Teddi and Erika do not know each other well.  Teddi had just reaffirmed she thought Erika's behavior is weird to her face.  Teddi is double and tripling down on her weird.  I find weird to be offensive when there are much better ways to describe the situation without using weird.  "Caught me by surprise," "it was unexpected," "I hope you feeling better," are just a few that come to mind.  Walking over to Erika and touching her is boundary crossing in my opinion.  There was a tear filled Erika and Teddi was making it about her and essentially cancelled the rest of the day-what happened to bike riding and brunch?  So it became about poor backwards Teddi and her feelings of inadequacy as a host instead of the fact the other women decided to take their little jabs at Erika exciting.  Don't bring it up if it is so inconsequential.  Erika deserved to know what was being said.  The women filmed the conversation.  Teddi is now claiming it was Erika's original intent and for some reason it is uncool that Erika was given a room.  I would think an all day guest might like to be able to freshen up or change their clothes and be given a space to park their luggage.  Erika was professional she stayed during filming and then left and returned promptly in the morning to resume filming.

Kyle needs to be accountable for the fact she makes borderline inflammatory statements and then decides who can and cannot repeat them.  

[Juliegirlj]

I have never been a Camille fan but am loving her this season! 

Erika may not have had her makeup spackered on like she usually does when she went back to Teddi’s, but she was made up. I’m betting her “assistant “ has experience as a hair and makeup artist. Just exactly why does Erika need an assistant to go to a casual gathering at a beach house, anyway??!! 

[Avaleigh]

1 hour ago, BBHN said:

It looked that way to me...

If she hadn't brought up her period, people would have been speculating what the reason was and whether she was faking it or not. Hell, she gave a reason, and people are doing just that...

Teddi was actually there and she states for a fact that Erika planned to leave all along. 

The debate isn't about whether or not Erika was on her period. The debate is about whether or not she planned to stay at the hotel all along. There is ample evidence to suggest that she planned on being with her glam squad all along because wanted to be camera ready the next morning. 

Erika wanted her camera time so she stayed until the cameras left and came back when they returned. It's typical Erika I don't know why it's so surprising. 

Edited February 14, 2018 by Avaleigh

[Lady of nod]

14 hours ago, annewithaneee said:

It's not weird that a woman going through a shockingly heavy period at an away toilet/bed situation who has the cash and means would opt to spend the night in a hotel. It's weird that several grown women thought that was weird, and obnoxious that Vanderpump minimized it. If you as a now post-menopausal woman has never had a period where you're having to tend to yourself nearly hourly and fear the very-real possibility of leaking through the sheets and into the mattress, thank your lucky fucking stars. It happens. It's not cute to be so dismissive of another woman's experience.

I haven't always been the biggest Erika fan, but she's either getting a good edit or settling into herself this season in a way I identify with. I'm a crass woman who can talk about sex in the abstract all damn day, but I'm uncomfortable discussing my own stuff especially in the company of people I'm not too close with (and TV cameras??? forget about it). And good lord, when she instinctively recoiled from Teddi's touch. Been. There. She should've just explained that it wasn't anything personal and she's uncomfortable with soothing touches in certain circumstances, but she was probably too in the moment and realizing that now her heavy-ass period was very likely going to make it to air thanks to all the fussing over it and many women deciding to somehow make it about them.

I have been there and i can say it's awful and scary and painful, and all I wanted to do was curl up in a ball be alone. Certainly not partying or worrying about ruining someone's bed. And she left quietly cause no one wants to call attention to it. Nothing at all about leaving is weird. I give her kudos for even going in the first place. And I love lvp but she pissed me off - it's not just a little cramping Lisa. It's a world of pain and you feel like you're bleeding to death. But worse is Dorit, who I use to like, jumping on Erika the minute she arrived to make her feel even more self conscious about it. Dorit is desperate this season to stir shit up and drive wedges between the women. What a bitch. Hope someone takes her down soon. 

[BBHN]

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Teddi was actually there and she states for a fact that Erika planned to leave all along. 

Objection, your honor! Hearsay!

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The debate isn't about whether or not Erika was on her period. The debate is about whether or not she planned to stay at the hotel all along. There is ample evidence to suggest that she planned on being with her glam squad all along because wanted to be camera ready the next morning. 

Erika wanted her camera time so she stayed until tge cameras left and came back when they returned. It's typical Erika I don't know why it's so surprising. 

You believe Teddi. I believe Erika. Simple as that.

As far as being camera ready or wanting camera time...that's their job. All 7 of them.

Edited February 14, 2018 by BBHN

[Keywestclubkid]

OMG she left to stay the night at a hotel (teddy even said stay at a hotel if you want) what is the big freaking deal? shes a diva and a bitch because she went to a hotel how? good god its like she slapped the pope or something ...

Edited February 14, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[beaker73]

Oh boy--I really think I have hit the level of extreme dislike for Erika.  I'm mean, really--what an over reaction to a non-situation.  She really cannot take any kind of criticism at all.  I get that she may not have wanted to stay at Teddi's and potentially had an accident (because who among us hasn't?) and I get that some of the ladies thought her leaving was weird.  I'm guessing she didn't full explain why she was leaving...or maybe that was just a cover for the real reason she didn't want to stay there. At any rate, no one is mad. Move on.   

Did I hear right? Did Erika stay at the hotel with her assistant? Who the fuck needs an assistant to stay overnight at a beach house? She really is quite high maintenance. 

And I've never been on the Camille love train, but I'll tell you what--I am digging her going all in on Dorit because that chick is the worst.  

On a lighter note I want Teddi's black workout tank. 

[zoeysmom]

14 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

Teddi was actually there and she states for a fact that Erika planned to leave all along. 

The debate isn't about whether or not Erika was on her period. The debate is about whether or not she planned to stay at the hotel all along. There is ample evidence to suggest that she planned on being with her glam squad all along because wanted to be camera ready the next morning. 

Erika wanted her camera time so she stayed until tge cameras left and came back when they returned. It's typical Erika I don't know why it's so surprising. 

Why should there be a debate about what Erika wanted to do when they were done filming?  Erika is being professional and meeting her filming commitments. Unlike Teddi who has twice had production cancel filming because she doesn't like how she was being treated.  First over the drinks with Dorit-who was late but en route and now an entire day of filming.  That means the crew doesn't get paid for scheduled filming, the restaurant where they would have brunched gets a big cancellation and the bike rental company gets stiffed.  All because Teddi doesn't feel like it and her feelings were hurt that Erika didn't want her touching her.

As to Erika calling her assistant, that again was professional.  Erika didn't have transportation, she didn't put anyone out and she arrived via her assistant the following day in a timely fashion.  

[CaughtOnTape]

28 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Teddi and Erika do not know each other well.  Teddi had just reaffirmed she thought Erika's behavior is weird to her face.  Teddi is double and tripling down on her weird.  I find weird to be offensive when there are much better ways to describe the situation without using weird.  "Caught me by surprise," "it was unexpected," "I hope you feeling better," are just a few that come to mind.  Walking over to Erika and touching her is boundary crossing in my opinion.  There was a tear filled Erika and Teddi was making it about her and essentially cancelled the rest of the day-what happened to bike riding and brunch?  So it became about poor backwards Teddi and her feelings of inadequacy as a host instead of the fact the other women decided to take their little jabs at Erika exciting.  Don't bring it up if it is so inconsequential.  Erika deserved to know what was being said.  The women filmed the conversation.  Teddi is now claiming it was Erika's original intent and for some reason it is uncool that Erika was given a room.  I would think an all day guest might like to be able to freshen up or change their clothes and be given a space to park their luggage.  Erika was professional she stayed during filming and then left and returned promptly in the morning to resume filming.

Kyle needs to be accountable for the fact she makes borderline inflammatory statements and then decides who can and cannot repeat them.  

I don't think what was said was so damaging that Erika "deserved" to know.  No one said she was a bitch, no one questioned her mothering skills, no one made any comments about her personally....they found this single solitary moment weird.  Dorit made it sound nefarious and it wasn't.  Teddi never said it was uncool or that she was angry.  Just that she found the situation odd.  I don't think that's something Erika definitely needed to know as if the women were talking about her behind her back or aren't her friends.  Erika is allowed to feel embarrassed and upset....but you don't teach someone that's not how you should handle the situation by then being rude in response.  If Erika wanted how she felt about the situation to hit home, then simply explain her stance on the situation and move on.  She dismissed Teddi's attempt at an apology as well as her compassion and it's not the first time she's done it.  I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for Erika in this situation, she came off looking like a hypocrite "Look, it's ok for me to treat people like shit but don't you treat me like that."  It was unnecessary.

[UsernameFatigue]

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

what she wasnt wearing makeup the next morning when she walked in go back and look

Lol. You do realize that there are different looks with make up, other than the Baby Jane version that Erika often wears in her THs? (And this is from someone who usually likes Erika). The next morning she was wearing mascara, eye liner on her upper lids, pink lipstick and gloss and pink blush. Her brows were also done. She looked lovely, as she often does when she goes with lighter makeup, rather than the troweled on variety ie. no false eyelashes, heavy foundation and blush and bright lipstick. But made up, she was. (This is coming from someone who only ever wears light make up - many can't tell I am wearing any.  But I do usually  wear it - lol). 

Edited February 14, 2018 by UsernameFatigue

[Jel]

12 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Erika started talking about how bad/awful/painful/bloody her period was as soon as she got there, so she just should have told Teddi she was going to stay at the hotel. It would not have been a big deal had she been honest upfront.

She didn't have a chance, Erika confronted her, so Teddi was honest.

Ahhh, but remember how Erika ignored what Eileen/Rinna said about her last season at the reunion. She will not come down on Dorit, nor will Rinna.

I don't think she will either which is why I said that only Erika/Rinna will have Dorit's back.

She had several choices. Off the top of my head I see a few:

If she wanted to stay with the "honesty" theme, she could have acknowledged saying it then apologized for discussing it with the others and not directly with Erika, thereby copping to what any viewer of the show knows is a but of a hot button issue.  

She could have said nothing about it at all.

She could have defended her guest (at least in appearance) and said, "Oh well, I understand. She wasn't feeling well."  And just shut the entire conversation down.

[IKnowRight]

14 hours ago, Primal Slayer said:

I really wish I could get paid thousands just to be a yass man. "YASS QUEEN! That outfit is HOT!" "Yass Queen! Those shoes are on FIRE" Mikey has it so good.

I am sooooo tired of Mikey.  Does she not have any other assistants or friends to take his place?  His advice is terrible and his fashion sense is atrocious.  

[AUJulia]

6 hours ago, lunastartron said:

Despite Teddi's penchant for deriding the behavior of others as "weird," I find Teddi herself downright bizarre. As well as intensely unself-aware - for all her (not entirely inaccurate) criticism that Erika wears a "cool girl" persona, Teddi seems much more invested - like the point of a mild personality disorder - in her mythology of the self and both viewing as well as presenting that self in a particular manner. She's low maintenance, not glamorous, down to earth, and don't care! 

Except when she's "challenging" coworkers she just met to meet standards and values that she prescribes; buying multimillion real estate with a trust; and is invested enough in what's going on to tear up over it. Likewise, Dorit shouldn't be talking about their interactions and inane disputes with Kyle and Lisa but Teddi is free to do exactly that. 

I also find her disingenuous - in her talking heads, she's chirping "if you don't want to be called weird, don't do weird shit" and yet, face to face with Erika, is all butthurt weeping. 

The last line of her blog is also pretty peculiar from my perspective - who automatically approaches their social and/or professional relationships from the vantage that the people in those relationships are going to need to be held accountable? None of these women are her clients. 

Meh. She's not a Mean Girl and she's trying to hold her own. 

[ivygirl]

I’m convinced that, had Dorit not run her mouth, this could have been the conversation:

Teddi: Yeah, I thought it was weird that’s you left.

Erika: Well, I felt weird leaving, so we’re even.

Teddi (TH): it was super weird that she left. I said I didn’t mind if people stayed in a hotel.

Erika (TH): So it was weird. I think she’s weird for caring.

 

And then they could have dredged it up at the reunion.

[diva2themax]

11 hours ago, Vicky8675309 said:

Did Erika wear white pants to Teddi's beach house? I can't remember.

Just curious.

Nope she wore black work out pants & a pink tshirt. Dorit had on all white the next day.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

2 hours ago, Juliegirlj said:

I paused the show to get a glass of water and my husband asked who the woman was with the giant FUPA cameltoe ~ it was none other than Lisa Vanderpump!! When they were working out in the morning, the camera caught her lower half in the frame and it was pretty bad. LVP will not be happy when she sees it!!!! 

OMG YES. the LVP FUPA cameltoe was a sight to behold. Yikes. Vertical all day long FUPA cameltoe and her ample booty looked like it was stuffed in double bikinis under leggings was not her best look.

Loved seeing NYC. Kyle is so short and curvy she needs to stick to heels and simple tailoring. Too showy and trendy and bam she looks like a chubby clown. The lace in that black dress she tried on was CHEAP. 

I love Camille she is feminine, beautiful in a modestly preserved age appropriate way, always dresses perfectly, she will cut a bitch, house porn, she is the perfect hw . Love her . Dorit looks at her and sees everything Dorit and PK want to be and never will be. 

I have friends on either side of 50 who have bloodbath periods due to menopause that are impossible to predict and hard to manage. I don’t blame Erika for wanting to suit up in layers of drugstore aisle protective armor in the privacy of her own bathroom. She should have communicated better with her hostess about that and not have been so prickly in the AM. I understand why given there wasn’t a lot of communication Teddi found it weird. Hell, Erika is weird ! Period ! Lol

And speaking of weird, and I mean Erika’s marriage, when do you seriously think the last decade occurred that her husband had an erection that Erika benefited from. That girl hasn’t had any in years by the looks of that old man she nurses who barely knows her. The whole relationship smacks of something but idk what .

I think Dorit is the breadwinner in that family and she sure is going for it. She is a cow no offense to actual cows. 

For Lisa to not understand peri menopause hell I am going to guess she had a hysterectomy and didn’t experience it, LVP just does not get it. 

[Avaleigh]

55 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Why should there be a debate about what Erika wanted to do when they were done filming?  Erika is being professional and meeting her filming commitments. Unlike Teddi who has twice had production cancel filming because she doesn't like how she was being treated.  First over the drinks with Dorit-who was late but en route and now an entire day of filming.  That means the crew doesn't get paid for scheduled filming, the restaurant where they would have brunched gets a big cancellation and the bike rental company gets stiffed.  All because Teddi doesn't feel like it and her feelings were hurt that Erika didn't want her touching her.

As to Erika calling her assistant, that again was professional.  Erika didn't have transportation, she didn't put anyone out and she arrived via her assistant the following day in a timely fashion.  

No one said that Erika was being unprofessional. The fact that she'd arranged things with the assistant backs up Teddi's claim that Erika planned to leave all along once the cameras were gone. It's only weird because Erika pretended like she was going to do one thing but planned on doing something else all along. Instead of showing up and just saying, "Hey, I'm staying in a hotel later" she has to do the song and dance about her period that she was apparently uncomfortable discussing. She chose to go down that road and now she's annoyed that it got any attention at all when she put it out there in the first place. She takes zero responsibility for why it's even a topic. 

Edited February 14, 2018 by Avaleigh

[AUJulia]

2 hours ago, Jel said:

I like lots of things about Teddi, but I don't buy that she doesn't care. If I had to slip on my analyst glasses, I'd say Teddi has some unresolved feelings of inferiority from being with the horsey set (chubby girl, NOCD parents, etc).  She's older now, so she covers it with "I don't care", self-deprication, but also thinly veiled criticisms of others who do care -- and when you put others down, no matter what the reason, reverse snobbery or otherwise, it's still putting people down.  If you want to be the devil-may-care girl who doesn't care, then be that, laugh along at your faux pas, and don;t spend so much time pointing out that you don't care and then proceed to show us how much you do care by never missing an opportunity to take a shot.  She can be a fun person, has a good sense of humor and I wish she'd just roll with that instead.

As for Dorit, she most definitely did stir the pot. I'm for that since I do enjoy the drama, but side issue. But I think she did actually have a point about "people discussing things and the person being discussed doesn't know" because , iirc, one of Erika's main objections during pantygate was that she was being discussed by others without her knowledge. She appreciated it when Eileen or Rinna (or whoever it was) told her about it. Perhaps Dorit remembered that and was doing what she thought was the right thing given her history with Erika.

That would be fine EXCEPT Dorit 1. Characterized OTHERS as being "mad" that Erika left (major exaggeration) and 2. Didn't fess to trashing Erika when she definitely had. 

[Mr. Miner]

5 minutes ago, AUJulia said:

That would be fine EXCEPT Dorit 1. Characterized OTHERS as being "mad" that Erika left (major exaggeration) and 2. Didn't fess to trashing Erika when she definitely had. 

Probably not a big deal until Dorit ran her fucking mouth. Ericka didn't need to be an ass to Teddi. Take your friend Dorit and your glam squad and GTFOOH. 

[AUJulia]

3 hours ago, Duke2801 said:

She's hardly "unself-aware."  In fact, she pokes fun at herself in her blogs all the time.  In fact, I think that's exactly what she's doing when she mentions the accountability thing. And butthurt weeping? Hardly.  Having tears in ones ones does not equal weeping.  

Not even going to touch on the "personality disorder" because.... yeah. 

This. 

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

I agree Teddi is self aware . She so fitness accountable that even she has a trainer ! That’s walking the walk. She is a horse girl and from her young years has gotten on horses in all weather, fallen off, been stepped on, bucked off, gotten back on and had every step of her riding critiqued by the best in the business (which is a lot of yelling and blood sweat and tears) no Princesses in the pro world it is hard … girl is no shrinking violet . She is businesslike and a hard worker. The drama she has dealt with in professional Horse circles is 10x what the HW can offer. Teddi has got this. I would have cried of exhaustion too from a houseful of them. Weak moment! 

 

Forgot to post that that no matter how many times I see it Erika’s TH outfit with the amber tiara, black dominatrix  dress, helga braids, pinkeye colored shadow, and vampire white complexion is NOT OK. Omg. 

Edited February 14, 2018 by Alonzo Mosely FBI

[BBHN]

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The fact that she'd arranged things with the assistant backs up Teddi's claim that Erika planned to leave all along once the cameras were gone

Or that she had a plan be just in case things ended up going south...which is what happened.

[WireWrap]

4 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Given Erika's age, 46 (correct?) fibroids are likely, we have a history in our family of women in the 46-48 year old range start with fibroids and the pain during your period is crippling and you wonder how there is any blood left in your body.  Today is the 9th anniversary of the best Valentines gift I ever got...a partial hysterectomy! Seriously it was on Valentines day.

Erika not wanting to discuss in detail with everyone on camera is understandable, she may have an inkling that surgery is in her future and does not want to think about it, maybe? 

Also, Dorit needs to shut it.  

What a difference between Gigi's first NYC apartment experience and Rinna's daughter's experience but the fact that Rinna's daughter has more than one room and does not have 3 roommates is impressive.

She was talking about it when she first got there.

4 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

I assume she had hired a car service to take her to Teddi's,  she'd have to take her luggage into the house or at least out of the car.  I think maybe she was being optimistic about her situation (maybe it wont be so bad), but her body had its own agenda ;)

Then give your hostess a heads up that you might stay elsewhere.

2 hours ago, A-Lo said:

I really wish we'd been given the opportunity to view for ourselves the actual Erika leaving Teddi's house scene.  If she did indeed just leave without a word, I can understand why the ladies would find that behavior strange.  But if she took even one of them aside and told them why she was leaving it would've alleviated all the nonsense that followed.  Why didn't Bravo show us that?

From Teddi's blog, "The issue is why spend the day pretending you’re going to stay over, but as soon as the camera crew leaves you have your assistant come pick you up? It’s not like Erika came to us at the end of the night to say she wasn’t feeling well and thought she’d feel better sleeping in a hotel. No. She asked me to call in a pass for her assistant who then arrived at my security gate. Erika then left so abruptly—and without explanation—that it was clear she had planned to stay at the hotel all along."

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

OMG she left to stay the night at a hotel (teddy even said stay at a hotel if you want) what is the big freaking deal? shes a diva and a bitch because she went to a hotel how? good god its like she slapped the pope or something ...

First, I don't think anyone was mad, puzzled maybe but then only because she left abruptly without letting her host know what was going on. Second, it was bad manners to not let you host know you are leaving after you secure a room in her house for the night. Third, Yes, Teddi did give all of them the option of staying at a hotel, which Erika should have told her she was doing instead of leaving as soon as the cameras were gone. 

[KungFuBunny]

Dorit started the conversation inside while the other ladies were outside exercising.

She did some heavy sighing by the counter first for dramatical effect.

Dorit: I feel that we've come very far and turned a corner.

The set up to show Erika, Dorit had her back.

Dorit: After you left, a couple of the girls were like very mad about it.

Erika: That I left?

Dorit: Yes

Dorit planted the seed in Erika's head that the other women were mad at her putting her on the defensive. She asked for clarification, and when Dorit said yes she was implying that the other ladies were mad that Erika left.

Erika: Well just tell me who it is and why would they be mad that I went to sleep somewhere else.

Dorit: I know well I think that it was that you had said you were staying and then you left. I actually said I think she decided last second that's what I thought.

Dorit planting the next seed. More than one person is mad and think Erika planned this all along - but not Dorit no way she had Erika's back.

Erika: Who was it?

Dorit: It was Kyle and then Teddi

Dorit got Erika wound up and pissed so Erika came out swinging as soon as Kyle and Teddi walked in.

Side note: I'm watching the Olympics and giggled when Kyle and Teddi walked back in to the confrontation. It reminded me of the reporters that want to interview the athlete as soon as they finish their competition. They are wheezing, snot running, down their noses....and the first thing they get is a microphone shoved in their face...so you came in 18th what do you think went wrong? That was Kyle and Teddi, they're wheezing and trying to answer Erika's questions. Teddi says the word weird so many times, Erika thinks it's polite code for mad.

[WireWrap]

3 minutes ago, BBHN said:

Or that she had a plan be just in case things ended up going south...which is what happened.

Then why not tell Teddi from the get go? Why wait until filming is done then just leave without explanation? At least tell your host, Erika would not be happy if 1 of them did that to her.

[BBHN]

As I said, she was having a visit from Aunt Flo? And probably not feeling her best?

[Carolina Girl]

1 hour ago, BBHN said:

Objection, your honor! Hearsay

Okay, I have to relate a funny court story.  I was in court and opposing counsel was gettng annoyed and jumped up and said "Objection Your Honor!  Heresy!"

To which the very quick-witted judge replied.  "This is the U.S. District Court, Mr. ____________, not the Spanish Inquisition."

[sistermagpie]

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

OMG she left to stay the night at a hotel (teddy even said stay at a hotel if you want) what is the big freaking deal? shes a diva and a bitch because she went to a hotel how? good god its like she slapped the pope or something ...

Well, really no. Literally the only person who's saying it was a big deal is Dorit. Even Teddi only got defensive that it was fine that it struck her as "weird" as in "odd" and according to her recollection it was done in such a way that was surprising--whether or not Erika agrees with her version, it pretty much explains Teddi's impression. All of them said over and over that they saw nothing strange or bad about her staying at a hotel. It was even an option Teddi herself suggested from the start. It's only Dorit pushing this narrative of events as the truth when not a single other person who was there actually agrees with her. And since nobody actually was mad, Dorit created a problem where none existed.

It was a shame Teddi felt defensive at all because it was satisfying watching the first confrontation with Kyle where Dorit had an ambush all laid out and Kyle didn't take the bait. She just said no, of course she wasn't mad that Erika left--that would be ridiculous. She wished they were all there to have fun together. Then she TH's about how Dorit was obviously trying to start trouble. Then Dorit repeated the story again at dinner--she's working really hard to put that narrative of everyone "being mad" at Erika into the storyline.

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Okay, I have to relate a funny court story.  I was in court and opposing counsel was gettng annoyed and jumped up and said "Objection Your Honor!  Heresy!"

Yikes. And that person has a law degree?

[zoeysmom]

7 hours ago, lunastartron said:

Despite Teddi's penchant for deriding the behavior of others as "weird," I find Teddi herself downright bizarre. As well as intensely unself-aware - for all her (not entirely inaccurate) criticism that Erika wears a "cool girl" persona, Teddi seems much more invested - like the point of a mild personality disorder - in her mythology of the self and both viewing as well as presenting that self in a particular manner. She's low maintenance, not glamorous, down to earth, and don't care! 

Except when she's "challenging" coworkers she just met to meet standards and values that she prescribes; buying multimillion real estate with a trust; and is invested enough in what's going on to tear up over it. Likewise, Dorit shouldn't be talking about their interactions and inane disputes with Kyle and Lisa but Teddi is free to do exactly that. 

I also find her disingenuous - in her talking heads, she's chirping "if you don't want to be called weird, don't do weird shit" and yet, face to face with Erika, is all butthurt weeping. 

The last line of her blog is also pretty peculiar from my perspective - who automatically approaches their social and/or professional relationships from the vantage that the people in those relationships are going to need to be held accountable? None of these women are her clients. 

My problem with high strung Teddi is she can never admit to being wrong or even listen to a person's side of the story. I did like that she repeatedly called herself annoying in this clip:  https://www.nbcnewyork.com/on-air/as-seen-on/Chatting-with-Teddi-Mellencamp_New-York-473949723.html  She was.  I have to disagree that Teddi need to strip the glitz and the glamour to get to who these women really are-they seem to express themselves no matter the surroundings.  It would be interesting to know how Teddi, who never watched the show, did not know anyone on the cast, made her way onto the show.

When Rinna, Teddi, Erika, Dorit and Camille are at the restaurant in NYC, Camille asks who wants to tell Rinna what has been going on.  Erika offers up Dorit.  Then Camille and Teddi chime in about Dorit's talking too much.  Don't ask her to speak if you don't want to hear her talk.   Seems kind of foolish to ask her to lay out what happened and then complain about her talking.

I agree about the accountability plot.  It is an epic fail and to unilaterally decide the other women can benefit from her accountability blither was overstepping.  It seems almost as if Teddi wants to make the other women abide by her lifestyle and choices.    

[UsernameFatigue]

37 minutes ago, diva2themax said:

Nope she wore black work out pants & a pink tshirt. Dorit had on all white the next day.

Arriving on both days, Erika had on dark pants. However when they showed the scene where she said "I've got my bed" at Teddy's, she had changed into a flowing white skirt with black abstract print, which she was also wearing when the ladies were outside in the evening. I had terrible cramps and heavy periods due to fibroids, and can certainly understand worrying about bleeding through clothes, onto sheets, etc. But I also would never have worn a flowing white skirt while dealing with the problem. 

[nexxie]

What I thought was really weird is the behavior after the crew left - like drunken sorority girls. Kinda creepy.

[WireWrap]

2 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:

Well, really no. Literally the only person who's saying it was a big deal is Dorit. Even Teddi only got defensive that it was fine that it struck her as "weird" as in "odd" and according to her recollection it was done in such a way that was surprising--whether or not Erika agrees with her version, it pretty much explains Teddi's impression. All of them said over and over that they saw nothing strange or bad about her staying at a hotel. It was even an option Teddi herself suggested from the start. It's only Dorit pushing this narrative of events as the truth when not a single other person who was there actually agrees with her. And since nobody actually was mad, Dorit created a problem where none existed.

It was a shame Teddi felt defensive at all because it was satisfying watching the first confrontation with Kyle where Dorit had an ambush all laid out and Kyle didn't take the bait. She just said no, of course she wasn't mad that Erika left--that would be ridiculous. She wished they were all there to have fun together. Then she TH's about how Dorit was obviously trying to start trouble. Then Dorit repeated the story again at dinner--she's working really hard to put that narrative of everyone "being mad" at Erika into the storyline.

That's exactly what Dorit is doing but my question now is, why is Erika going along with it. Even if we assign hormones/embarrassment to Erika's reaction when she got back to Teddi's house, it doesn't explain why she is still bitchy about it later in NY after she heard that no one had a problem. And, why would she take Dorit's word over Kyle's word about what was said.

[KungFuBunny]

1 minute ago, BBHN said:

As I said, she was having a visit from Aunt Flo? And probably not feeling her best?

I'm going to toss in another scenario into the mix.

What if Erika had a case of the Shits instead of her period.

Teddi said she had a beach cottage with 5 bedrooms. How many bathrooms are there? Did they all have en suites?

Would I want to stay and possibly share a bathroom? There are camera crews around - do I want to risk them capturing the sounds of my fart symphony? Those mic packs pick up everything.  Do I want to have to ask my hostess to give me more toilet paper cause I just used up 2 rolls. Would I want the other ladies to notice that I keep running to the bathroom and question whether or not I have a drug problem? You know Dorit would be hovering outside that bathroom door for her bump. Would I want to risk smelling up the house? Would I want anyone to hear me flushing 20 times? Would I even want to explain to the hostess on or off camera that I have the shits and therefore I'm going to check into a hotel.

[islandgal140]

I. CANNOT. STAND. THE. RINNA. GIRLS. Bravo, please Less them and more 2am LVP giving Kyle an atomic wedgies please.  

Rarely do I ever FF any scenes on this franchise but I am FF'ing with extreme prejudice through their nonsense. They make me long for the days when actors try to shoehorn their kids into the acting industry as opposed to modeling. At least with acting, it requires a bit more concerted effort and honing of craft and to some extent their is some way to measure success whether via box office tickets or tv ratings. With the advent of social media and buying likes/followers who the hell knows if their popularity is real or inflated and that shit can go on forever with no one being the wiser. 

[WireWrap]

4 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

My problem with high strung Teddi is she can never admit to being wrong or even listen to a person's side of the story. I did like that she repeatedly called herself annoying in this clip:  https://www.nbcnewyork.com/on-air/as-seen-on/Chatting-with-Teddi-Mellencamp_New-York-473949723.html  She was.  I have to disagree that Teddi need to strip the glitz and the glamour to get to who these women really are-they seem to express themselves no matter the surroundings.  It would be interesting to know how Teddi, who never watched the show, did not know anyone on the cast, made her way onto the show.

When Rinna, Teddi, Erika, Dorit and Camille are at the restaurant in NYC, Camille asks who wants to tell Rinna what has been going on.  Erika offers up Dorit.  Then Camille and Teddi chime in about Dorit's talking too much.  Don't ask her to speak if you don't want to hear her talk.   Seems kind of foolish to ask her to lay out what happened and then complain about her talking.

I agree about the accountability plot.  It is an epic fail and to unilaterally decide the other women can benefit from her accountability blither was overstepping.  It seems almost as if Teddi wants to make the other women abide by her lifestyle and choices.    

Well, the only one that asked Dorit to retell anything was Erika, not Camille or Teddi but Camille should have kept her suggestion about filling Rinna in to herself.

2 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

I'm going to toss in another scenario into the mix.

What if Erika had a case of the Shits instead of her period.

Teddi said she had a beach cottage with 5 bedrooms. How many bathrooms are there? Did they all have en suites?

Would I want to stay and possibly share a bathroom? There are camera crews around - do I want to risk them capturing the sounds of my fart symphony? Those mic packs pick up everything.  Do I want to have to ask my hostess to give me more toilet paper cause I just used up 2 rolls. Would I want the other ladies to notice that I keep running to the bathroom and question whether or not I have a drug problem? You know Dorit would be hovering outside that bathroom door for her bump. Would I want to risk smelling up the house? Would I want anyone to hear me flushing 20 times? Would I even want to explain to the hostess on or off camera that I have the shits and therefore I'm going to check into a hotel.

If that were the case, I would have said the same thing, stay home!

[Carolina Girl]

9 minutes ago, BBHN said:

Yikes. And that person has a law degree?

Yes, and he's actually an accomplished attorney.  Just got a little agitated over the testimony of our witness against his client and misspoke.  And the judge's deadpan delivery was priceless.  

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Well, the only one that asked Dorit to retell anything was Erika, not Camille or Teddi but Camille should have kept her suggestion about filling Rinna in to herself.

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[WordsWordsWords]

I don't have much to add about Erika-gate. I will say that I went to a family event, stayed in a hotel, and (because my period -- which was always horrific -- came early) destroyed a mattress in the early hours of the morning. The hotel staff was amazing. Turned out I had cancer, though I was diagnosed with fibroid tumours. The pain I had with my periods was so bad that childbirth was less painful. Anyway, I can understand why Erika wanted to be elsewhere. And, being Erika, she couldn't be bothered to extend a bit of grace to her hostess and really explain herself. If she had, none of the "Erika is being weird" crap would have happened. Or at least, it wouldn't have been such A Big Honkin' Deal. I know she talked about how Tom always drinks his coffee from a Styrofoam cup, but that's still wasteful and icky. That dress others have dissed (from Shark Tank) is neither "smart, elegant" nor "sexy on" as Erika and her stylist claimed. It's ugly, tacky. Which means it fits quite well with half the things she wears. I swear, her stylists do her few favours with their choices.

Hey, look, I didn't start with Dorit this week. But now I'm talking about her. :) Dorit should have kept her faux-Brit yap shut. Erika didn't need to know that the "girls" (and how I loathe calling women above the age of, say, 16 "girls," but that's another rant) had thought her departure was "weird." And, again, if Erika had just really explained herself, they'd have understood. Probably. Maybe. Anyway, Dorit should have shut up. And did you see those sly-kitty-who-nibbled-the-canary expressions the camera caught in the kitchen when the good overnighter was turning to crap in span of a few minutes? She seemed quite pleased with her morning's work.  PK's parents AND Dorit's parents are needed to "help take care of PK"? Really? Not "help take care of the children," mind, but help take care of this grownup man. Give me grace. Dorit tossing Lisa V under a fleet of buses at that little dinner was the least bright thing she's done all season -- a season of surpassingly not-bright decisions.

I enjoyed the Teddi-Kyle-in-Kyle's-store scene. I didn't like those ugly shoes Kyle foisted off on Teddi, though. I did like the clothes. I also enjoyed Kyle and Lisa V in Kyle's NY store. I totally want one of those fake fur coats by Kyle's godson. But (a) I am totally sure I can't afford one and (b) I'm equally sure they don't come in my size.  (Yes, I Googled. They're not too outrageous. $600. But I'm still pretty sure they won't make them in my size.)

I think Teddi's vocabulary isn't terribly extensive. She just doesn't have a wide range of expressions. So when she landed on "weird," she stayed there. It never seems to occur to her that "weird" is bothering Erika more than many other ways of describing Teddi's reaction might have. If Teddi had said she didn't understand or that she was puzzled or something, Erika might well have reacted differently. Maybe. Erika doesn't like to show her feelings -- and neither does Teddi. This is not a good combination for a friendship.

I'm always amused when any of the Howives pack for a trip. My idea of packing for a trip is "how little can I get away with?" Theirs is "can I justify taking my entire shoe collection?"

[KungFuBunny]

52 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

OMG YES. the LVP FUPA cameltoe was a sight to behold. Yikes. Vertical all day long FUPA cameltoe and her ample booty looked like it was stuffed in double bikinis under leggings was not her best look.

 

It was bad. I noticed the bulging under the leggings too - how many pairs of Spanx was she donning?

LVP does not look good with an up do. She ends up looking like Mrs Garrett

[UsernameFatigue]

3 hours ago, Juliegirlj said:

I paused the show to get a glass of water and my husband asked who the woman was with the giant FUPA cameltoe ~ it was none other than Lisa Vanderpump!! When they were working out in the morning, the camera caught her lower half in the frame and it was pretty bad. LVP will not be happy when she sees it!!!! 

 

LOL. I had to look this up, because while I know what a cameltoe is, since Lisa was wearing runners I assumed at FUPA cameltoe must mean something else. Thanks for the laugh. She did indeed look awful - lumpy and bumpy in the front, and her ass looked huge. 

[IKnowRight]

1 hour ago, zoeysmom said:

Teddi and Erika do not know each other well.  Teddi had just reaffirmed she thought Erika's behavior is weird to her face.  Teddi is double and tripling down on her weird.  I find weird to be offensive when there are much better ways to describe the situation without using weird.  "Caught me by surprise," "it was unexpected," "I hope you feeling better," are just a few that come to mind.  

I am not sure how the use of the word weird is offensive.  I think it’s commonly used in a similar way to using the word odd.  Teddi meant weird as in an odd situation.  She wasn’t over analyzing what happened in that moment.  Words are interchangeable and have multiple meanings.  Weird, to me, is often used to replace odd/strange.  People use the words sick and nasty, for example, in a positive way, even though they were words reserved in a negative connotation before the 21st century.  

[Duke2801]

18 minutes ago, nexxie said:

What I thought was really weird is the behavior after the crew left - like drunken sorority girls. Kinda creepy.

Or just some ladies letting loose and having fun. Nothing creepy about it to me.

[KungFuBunny]

16 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

If that were the case, I would have said the same thing, stay home!

Hard to stay home if the Shits were caused by eating some of Dorit's Moroccon Rice that's not really Moroccon

[Avaleigh]

2 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

OMG she left to stay the night at a hotel (teddy even said stay at a hotel if you want) what is the big freaking deal? shes a diva and a bitch because she went to a hotel how? good god its like she slapped the pope or something ...

I'm surprised that it's being interpreted that some people think that Erika is a bitch just because a person feels that her story doesn't make sense. 

I don't think she's a bitch but I do think this is evidence that she's a diva---something that she would readily and happily admit. She's so high maintenance that she needs her glam squad for a low key overnight beach trip.  

I don't think anyone has suggested that she's done something vile and should be burned at the stake for staying at a hotel. I'm just not buying her spin.

As BBHN says, you either believe Erika or Teddi. I find Teddi's version of events to be more believable just as I think Teddi has been more believable wrt Dorit.