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S05.E03: Big Fat Ambush


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4 hours ago, SuzyLee said:

HAHA, I was wondering the same thing.  Just laying hands on a wooden pointer would have necessitated a trip to the store and maybe a visit to Amazon for most of us.  This show, this woman, and these producers are all absolutely full of shit.

I thought it looked like a selfie stick which we know she already has.

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Another thought:  So your cheating boyfriend's other girlfriend comes to visit you and you go to "his" favorite resort for massages and compare facts with how the room looks to verify his memories of beds, blinds and sheets talking about how "he" has walked these halls before.  And you share a room and sleep there as a "cleanse"?  WHO DOES THAT?

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5 hours ago, Alapaki said:

I'm afraid that I've come to the conclusion that both Glenn and Babs know exactly what a vulgar failure Whitney is.  They've just decided that it's more fun to play along, and bask in whatever reflected pseudo-fame they feel they're getting, than to put their foot down and really push Whitney to change her lifestyle. 

Glenn and Babs will support whatever career Whitney cobbles together.  So that they don't have to support her for the rest of her life.  Can't say that I blame them.  One of my sisters refuses to get a job. If I had to play the fool on TV a few times a year to get a paycheck coming her way I would. 

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7 hours ago, Alapaki said:

While I'm automatically suspicious just by virtue of her participation in this farce, it does seem to me that there is something naive (or may just plain not-that-bright) about Nada.  

She's obviously overwhelmed personality-wise (and not in a good way) by Whitney.  But it really seems like Whitney was pushing/manipulating her into being involved in this whole thing. 

Nada mentioned at the beginning that while she was somewhat interested in meeting Whit, what she REALLY was hoping for was a chance to run into Avi while hanging put in his vicinity. 

7 hours ago, calpurnia99 said:

However I do not think that Avi showed little interest in her and she blew it up to be more. I think  hesnowed her into thinking he had very deep feelings for her and their relationship was special. If you go back to the first episodes when she was describing their relationship, it seemed like she had met her soulmate. and long term partner I don't think this was all in her head: she said he was hinting that this could lead to marriage. When you hear the other stories, he said the same things to the other women. I think she was totally snowed and manipulated, to the point where she considered converting for him.  He made it seem serious to her. Also he does this to get them to give him money because if they are going to be married some day, why not? Maybe she did only see him once a week, but I imagine these meetings he would give her signs that he was in love with her.  Of course with Whitney she exaggerates everything, but it seems like this guy has some mad skills.

I think these are both right - all he had to do was show a little interest and hint at more, and she filled in the gaps herself.  Same with Nada, although it seems he went a bit farther with her - meeting the family and all.  (Perhaps that is necessary if you need a place to stay once you travel all the way to Egypt!  North Carolina has cheap hotels :). hee hee. Allison fell for it too, but we don't know that all of those other women even exist.  At least some of them probably do, but I am quite sure that there are  number of women as well who have met Avi and told him to take a hike because they weren't buying what he was selling.

 

6 hours ago, M.F. Luder said:

I think the way Whitney talked about the relationship showed her immaturity and complete lack of understanding of how real relationships work. Maybe it's just me, but I am always very wary of guys that go overboard with the lovefest super early into a relationship. But besides that, Whitney saying that "if it doesn't work out with him, I will never recover" and other overdramatic things like that suggests (to me at least) that she has a very fragile sense of herself and despite her claims of being confident, she actually feels like she has very limited options and is too eager to settle for the scraps of love that men are willing to throw at her. And for her to be considering converting to Judaism for the wishy washy relationship she described, it either means that religion doesn't mean much to her, or she's all too willing to change major things about her identity (except being fat, that's the one thing she has to hold on to) for some dude that has only been in her life for months.

Or due to her narcissism she was just enjoying being in the middle of a Big Fat Drama.

6 hours ago, Alapaki said:

I'm afraid that I've come to the conclusion that both Glenn and Babs know exactly what a vulgar failure Whitney is.  They've just decided that it's more fun to play along, and bask in whatever reflected pseudo-fame they feel they're getting, than to put their foot down and really push Whitney to change her lifestyle. 

I still think Whitney is an addict and they are hard to deal with, especially for parents.  My sibling is an alcoholic, and in order for the family to get along we all have to smile and change the subject whenever my parents want to discuss the emperor's new clothes.  Honest dialogue brings nothing but big fights, and after 20 years or so you learn it's just not worth it.  I'm sure they want what's best for her, but they confuse it with wanting her to be "happy", and then that gets wrapped up in believing her when she tells them what she is doing about it, etc etc.  

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7 hours ago, AZChristian said:

QUESTIONS:  Do we know for a fact how Twit, Nada, and the other lady(ies) came in contact with Avi?  Did he initiate contact?  Did anyone actually meet him in person before their "relationship" began?  If he was reaching out to them, he's a catfish, except it appears he didn't do it with a false profile.  But he still seems to have contacted them for fraudulent or deceptive purposes (textbook definition).

I know they said one of the women met him on an online dating service (J date? or something like that). Seems like there has been more than one "version" of how Twit met him. Seems like one version is online, one version is in-person but I don't know if any have been verified. 

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6 hours ago, Dot said:

She couln't keep the new monster SUV because she had to climb up to get into it. She is no longer able to get into any kind of truck because of her size & knees.

The Kia, tho also an SUV, is designed so that you step down to get in it, like a sedan.

Jocelyn, you are correct, Twit never said this is the reason -- and never would admit such. But I know this is the reason, as I said in the Rescue Me thread, because I myself have been in that situation when I was 380+ #s.

Okay. Thanks for the clarification. I was afraid I was going to have to go back and re-watch old episodes. Whew! I remember the old Toyota dying and being repaired and her being stranded on her first day of the radio job. Then I thought I remembered something about her and Babs car shopping. But then couldn't remember if she'd maybe not bought a new vehicle... and WHY I even CARE is even more of a mystery! ha ha

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Amazing how Twit was trying to manipulate Nada after the ambush with all the "we" hate him, "we" will never talk to him again, etc....   Twit is a horrible human.

Delusional as fuck , too. 

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On 1/16/2018 at 9:00 PM, John M said:

With the current turmoil in Egypt it skews perceptions but there are plenty of wealthy people in Egypt and Nada's family is almost certainly among them. Also a lot of non-native speakers of English learn British English but it's not THAT rare for people to choose to learn American English. It's entirely possible that Nada attended an American school in Egypt and was fully immersed in American English for most of her life.

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I went to an international school and many of my friends were from Middle East -- two from Syria, one from Lebanon, another from Qatar, and loaaaads from Dubai and Abu Dhabi. All from very wealthy families.  They spoke English without a "foreign" accent because they were taught in British and American schools from a very young age. Same thing with my friends who grew up in Singapore and Hong Kong. My roommate was from the Congo (Kinshasa) and she also spoke English like a native. 

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One question: Doesn't Twit have a dining room table that people cd sit around and eat like humans?

What is with that couch/coffee table and everyone spread out around the room? I won't even go into paper plates again. Adulting is hard for this group apparently. 

I loved how Tal was saying that ,"I don't like to see Whitney like this"--(-re: the Tal and/or Avi things), and the camera cuts to a shot of Twit stuffing her face with a giant fork-full from the mounds of basic catering food. 

Leaving your new BFF from a different country on a hiking trail while you go off was uncouth, classless, and cold. 

I got the feeling that Nada would be back talking to Avi asap and blaming Twit for the confrontation --which would be true.  The other woman also was in deeper with Avi and I felt for her too.

Twit tried to talk a good game abt empowerment and desperately tried to lump ALL of Avi's women together, but she was so jelly, jelly, jelly.  Lol. 

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Jelly and clurb make me laugh.
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19 hours ago, ClareWalks said:

Which makes this whole whiteboard CSI investigation seem even CRAZIER.

EXCELLENT recap ClareWalks.  Thank you for taking the time to write it out for us folks who don't have cable anymore.  Instead of people saying she's going to end up on My 600 pound life, which, I'm sure she eventually will, I think she will probably be on the Cat-Fished show with Meri Brown.    She has definitely been cat-fished.  I wish she would hit rock bottom.  It will take some sort of real emergency, not a scripted one, for her to really scare her.  Bless her heart, I hope it happens sooner than later.  Maybe she can beg the world for redemption and forgiveness on how stupid and pornographic her behavior has been, since none of her Boo's are telling her anything about her actions.  Is Heather now Heather Boo? lol

TalBoo?

No wonder why Hunter stays out of Greensboro and out of her sister's show.  He doesn't want to cut his sister's broccoli anymore

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When Whit goes through a career slump she can always go on Marriage Boot Camp Family Edition. Who knows maybe she'll even be married by then, although Babs & Glenn will probably be the only married ones in her group. I don't watch The Bachelorette, Dancing with the Stars, or Big Brother often, but I'd tune in every week if she could manage to get on those shows. 

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OK, so I finished the episode.  The ONLY reason Shit is reuniting all of these girls is bc she wants to assure herself that she is the hottest and fittest of all the fat girls.  Why would you read your cheating ex's text messages?  I think that Shitney's grand plan is to kill all of the competition by taking them on hikes and betting on heart failure.  She was so jealous of Nada and the fact that Avi obviously cares for her worlds more than he ever cared for Shit. She was LIVID that he barely acknowledge her.  She was pathetic with her use of "us".  You think you can do this to US?  You think that WE would ever forgive you?  You owe US an explanation. He barely registered that she was there.  Even in a situation like this where there are no winners, Shit still loses bc he is petty as fuck.

She is more unlikable tis season than ever.

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1 hour ago, Bugfrey Von said:

OK, so I finished the episode.  The ONLY reason Shit is reuniting all of these girls is bc she wants to assure herself that she is the hottest and fittest of all the fat girls.  Why would you read your cheating ex's text messages?  I think that Shitney's grand plan is to kill all of the competition by taking them on hikes and betting on heart failure.  She was so jealous of Nada and the fact that Avi obviously cares for her worlds more than he ever cared for Shit. She was LIVID that he barely acknowledge her.  She was pathetic with her use of "us".  You think you can do this to US?  You think that WE would ever forgive you?  You owe US an explanation. He barely registered that she was there.  Even in a situation like this where there are no winners, Shit still loses bc he is petty as fuck.

She is more unlikable tis season than ever.

Yes to this.....she used the word US over and over again.  She was purposely avoiding the word ME but you could tell he was thinking only of herself.  She should never have dragged Nada into that ridiculous fiasco.  She is such a bitch!

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2 hours ago, JenniofTroy said:

When Whit goes through a career slump she can always go on Marriage Boot Camp Family Edition. Who knows maybe she'll even be married by then, although Babs & Glenn will probably be the only married ones in her group. I don't watch The Bachelorette, Dancing with the Stars, or Big Brother often, but I'd tune in every week if she could manage to get on those shows. 

LOL Family Boot Camp would be hysterical but I am sure Whit would never do that cause she would be forced into seeing the truth.

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Another random thought:

When Buddy performed his hillbilly Boomhauer mumble as requested by Twit & Co. at the dinner honoring Nada, it was basically indistinguishable from his very own mumble.

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I don't know enough or care enough to dislike Avi so I would like to see a story line where Avi is not such the douche that he is being portrayed and marries Nada then Nada loses weight from her and Avi's successful BGDC.

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On 1/16/2018 at 9:37 PM, lightninggirl said:

All of this episode was cringeworthy - Sweatney trying to sleep with Nada in the same bed (and the moving parts dying a slow death underneath them), watching poor Nada wheeze with her poor swollen ankles and getting abandoned on the short hike (I love Nada), the looooong draaaaaawn out bullshit with BGDC (Todd, do SOMETHING with your dish scrubbie hair), Sweatney pulling a phone from a stranger's hand to creep on her pics with Avi (and whine and pout about how much "Avi seemed to have loved her" - which means "AND NOT MEEEEE!"), seeing an obese pregnant woman's fupa (clearly, Ashley needed to buy 3 kits in order to cover that stomach), watching Sweatney fake-cry and try to show empathy when others were clearly upset over Avi (because it wasn't about HER), seeing Sweatney's STUNNED face when Nada said she was going to meet with Avi face-to-face (and I hope she does, because I think Nada has a backbone - and it will piss Sweatney TF off)...

...but the worst part of this episode was at the end when Sweatney takes off, Nada in tow, to confront Avi WITHOUT A GOLLDANG BRA. Sweet dancing Moses, it's one thing to be morbidly obese wearing 4XL yoga pants and a sports bra in public, but to be waddling around a freaking Starbuck's parking lot in a tank top with her titties drooping off the sides of her enormous stomach like a mobile Buddha statue was enough. OMG I need at least a week to recover from this.

If I were off to confront an ex, I would be looking my absolute BEST, I can tell you. She is weird. 

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On 1/17/2018 at 6:24 AM, Kid said:

Allison did not need to participate.

I believed Nada.

Yes, she did.  And she also said she was going to get into trouble for making that statement. I don’t think Babs is as clueless as everyone thinks she is and I think both of them are totally fed up with her. Problem is they continue to enable.

What does she mean, “Get in trouble”? Is she afraid of Whitney becoming upset and bullying, as are so many of the 600-Lb-Lifers who throw pissy fits when anyone dares to suggest they alter their eating habit. Enabler: “I know they should only have two eggs, but if i don’t fix them 12 with a pound of bacon, they’ll get upset .” LET THEM!! 

I actually can’t stand Babs and I think her cutesy fake southern belle act helped shape Whitney. But I don’t think she should suffer Whit’s bullying or tantrums. 

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17 hours ago, Maggienolia said:

Seems like there has been more than one "version" of how Twit met him. Seems like one version is online, one version is in-person but I don't know if any have been verified. 

I thought that her original story was that he sent her a FB message, which she showed, back in Sept 2016 where he was pretending to show 'solidarity' with her getting bullied for being fat because ... get ready to clutch your pearls ... he had a big nose and always felt self-conscious about it [/gasps]. But then I recall her saying she met him on an online dating site - but I might've been two limoncellos in on that episode and remembering it wrong. ???

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5 hours ago, Bugfrey Von said:

The ONLY reason Shit is reuniting all of these girls is bc she wants to assure herself that she is the hottest and fittest of all the fat girls.

I really feel that this has backfired on her, because while she thinks she's Sherlock Holmes? All she's discovering that Avi was really more into these girls than he was into her. This was really telling when she noted that he responded to Nada with more tenderness (or something along those lines) that he hadn't shown her. It was also apparent that Allison had done more things with him and had a TON more pics of the two of them together, and you could tell that really bothered her.

I'm wondering how much of a total dang idiot she feels, totally rushing into converting to Judaism and plotting a future wedding with him, only to find out that not only was he playing her? He was waaaaaaay more into these other ladies than he was her. She is really and truly her own worst enemy.

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10 hours ago, writerchick57 said:

I think she will probably be on the Cat-Fished show with Meri Brown. 

She wasn't catfished though.  He was who he said he was, and she's met him.  Seems he's just a jerk.  
I had to google Meri Brown.  Was she really catfished?

8 hours ago, Bugfrey Von said:

 I think that Shitney's grand plan is to kill all of the competition by taking them on hikes and betting on heart failure.

This episode made it abundantly clear, that Whit has not concept of hospitality.  
Nada must have experienced great culture shock.  If she visits another American home, I wonder what she'll be expecting.  She'll proably bring an air mattress.

5 hours ago, RabbiBeth said:

Still can't tell who is Tal and who is Todd.  Todd (L), Tal (R)

Tal is very thin and balding.  16908059_996303400502082_459971399465828

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2 hours ago, ClareWalks said:

More like Sherbet Holmes AMIRIGHT??? (1st class ticket to hell, right here)

Buddy's missing... Whit has the maps, pointer AND A WHITE BOARD. I think they're starting a detective agency. She found all of Avi's girls. Formidable team, like Scooby Doo

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20 minutes ago, LivinLovinLife said:

Buddy's missing... Whit has the maps, pointer AND A WHITE BOARD. I think they're starting a detective agency. She found all of Avi's girls. Formidable team, like Scooby Doo

*insert Scooby Snacks joke here* (going to hell in the Mystery Machine)

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1 hour ago, auntjess said:

She wasn't catfished though.  He was who he said he was, and she's met him.  Seems he's just a jerk.  
I had to google Meri Brown.  Was she really catfished?

This episode made it abundantly clear, that Whit has not concept of hospitality.  
Nada must have experienced great culture shock.  If she visits another American home, I wonder what she'll be expecting.  She'll proably bring an air mattress.

Tal is very thin and balding.  16908059_996303400502082_459971399465828

THANK YOU! : )

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6 hours ago, lightninggirl said:

I thought that her original story was that he sent her a FB message, which she showed, back in Sept 2016 where he was pretending to show 'solidarity' with her getting bullied for being fat because ... get ready to clutch your pearls ... he had a big nose and always felt self-conscious about it [/gasps]. But then I recall her saying she met him on an online dating site - but I might've been two limoncellos in on that episode and remembering it wrong. ???

Ooooo Limoncellos! Now that's what my tele-visual entertainment is missing! :) 

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1 hour ago, goofygirl said:

Hey! Scoobie actually SOLVED mysteries! Didn't he?

Yes! Once you pulled that MASK off, it was always Mr. Crumpers the high school principal, complaining about those dang kids! Damn, that was some good detective work. Wait. Maybe Nada.....and all those other women.....maybe they're ALL THE SAME PERSON! :-o 

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6 hours ago, LivinLovinLife said:

Buddy's missing... Whit has the maps, pointer AND A WHITE BOARD. I think they're starting a detective agency. She found all of Avi's girls. Formidable team, like Scooby Doo

My Big Fat Fabulous Private Dicks

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14 hours ago, RabbiBeth said:

HI everyone!


I haven't finished reading all of the great comments here but I wanted to chime in.  So much to comment on!

 

First of all, I feel badly for Nada.  Her level of super morbid obesity is stunning (as if Twit's wasn't enough). Watching her on the "hike" (I don't consider that type of little trail a HIKE!) was pathetic.  I felt terrible for her.  She is seriously on death's door.  To not be able to walk 0.8 miles on what looked to be a simple walk that almost anyone else could do, even a 105 year old, that was sad.  She seems sweet and relatively bright - I hope she gets her health back somehow.

Next - Twit and the bed sharing.  WTF.  You guys are not BFFS in elementary school - you are grown women.  Give your guest some privacy, please!  

 

Buddy/Heather - boring - don't care

 

Pregnant friend (what's her name?) - whatevs, not really caring much about that, either.

 

Still can't tell who is Tal and who is Todd.  

 

When Whitney's mom admitted sheepishly that "Whitney needs to lose a little weight" and when her dad was trying to think of ideas to get Twit back into fitness, I thought it was sad.  Thereis some real pain on the part of Twit's parents - seeing Twit so obese, unpartnered, stymied in developmental growth...OY.  While they coddled and contributed to Twit's failure to launch, no doubt, I still somehow feel sad for her parents who must find so much of this painful.  

 

And as a rabbi and representative of the Jewish People, thank goodness she is no longer seeking conversion.  As another poster here once wrote (which I loved and got a LOL over), the Jewish People have suffered enough through the millennia!

Someone should ask her on Facebook how she doing with the conversion since she said she wasn’t doing it for Avi but for herself (bullshit)

Only watched part of the episode but I did see when they attempted to sleep in the same bed. The fact they were laughing because they couldn’t use the mechanical part  because  they are ginormous is sad. That would be a wake up call for a lot of people like not being able to buckle a seatbelt. 

Her wake up call should have been when she couldn’t ski. Who could forget that gem of an episode. 

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10 hours ago, RabbiBeth said:

She wasn't catfished though.  He was who he said he was, and she's met him.  Seems he's just a jerk.  
I had to google Meri Brown.  Was she really catfished?

Yes, Meri Brown really WAS catfished, I felt so very sorry for Meri, but now you have pointed out that Whitney was NOT catfished like I had thought.  Great photo of Tal and Todd.  I like both of them.  Too bad twit doesn't realize what good and devoted friends she really has.  Treasure them twit for someday they too, will finally be tired of you

2 hours ago, Bubbles1967 said:

Her wake up call should have been when she couldn’t ski. Who could forget that gem of an episode. 

Who could forget that heart wrenching scene.  I really thought that would be her breaking point, but obviously she still believes she can still do anything she used to do when she wasn't morbidly obese.  Very sad.  

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Saw a promo for this show last night.  I don't think it was this particular episode though.  Whitney said something like "my drug of choice is cats".  Which is a weird thing to say.  Drugs are usually something you consume.

 

I am an avid cat lover and when she was diapering a cat my two simultaneous thoughts were "No!  You do not do that to a cat!" along with "How the hell did you manage to do that to a cat?  I can't get my cats to stay still for long enough to put on their harness, let alone a diaper."

 

Did you folks see the promo?  Who was the other heavy woman in that scene?

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On 1/18/2018 at 10:21 AM, JenniofTroy said:

When Whit goes through a career slump she can always go on Marriage Boot Camp Family Edition. Who knows maybe she'll even be married by then, although Babs & Glenn will probably be the only married ones in her group. I don't watch The Bachelorette, Dancing with the Stars, or Big Brother often, but I'd tune in every week if she could manage to get on those shows. 

OMG!!! Whit on DWTS??? Who would her partner be, a professional bodybuilder? Who else could spin her around and hold her doing a dip?

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5 hours ago, Thrifty said:

Saw a promo for this show last night.  I don't think it was this particular episode though.  Whitney said something like "my drug of choice is cats".  Which is a weird thing to say.  Drugs are usually something you consume.

 

I am an avid cat lover and when she was diapering a cat my two simultaneous thoughts were "No!  You do not do that to a cat!" along with "How the hell did you manage to do that to a cat?  I can't get my cats to stay still for long enough to put on their harness, let alone a diaper."

 

Did you folks see the promo?  Who was the other heavy woman in that scene?

The other woman was her pregnant friend Ashley who I actually like. It’s bad enough she neglects those cats now it looks like she’s abusing them too.   As you pointed out, you do not do that to cats. She just gets more and more despicable. 

 And, hey Whit, your drug is FOOOOOOOOOD!!!!

26 minutes ago, Emma C said:

OMG!!! Whit on DWTS??? Who would her partner be, a professional bodybuilder? Who else could spin her around and hold her doing a dip?

The unfortunate part of it, because of her fanbase, she would last on DWTS because all of those nitwits would be voting for her. Probably, poor Tony (Pro who got Goselin) would get her.  That man is a saint.

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 There is no way that Whitney would be able to do the practice sessions I assume they have to do for dancing with the stars.  She couldn’t make it through the training for the fitness Marshall tour.  She couldn’t make it through practicing a choreographed dance with a bride before a wedding without needing to have her friend Ashley drive for hours to come massage her feet. If she got picked for DWTS,  she’d practice for one hour and then fake an injury to get out of the rest of it.

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10 hours ago, gigiann said:

My Big Fat Fabulous Private Dicks

And some fairly public ones, too.

 

36 minutes ago, PityFree said:

She couldn’t make it through practicing a choreographed dance with a bride before a wedding without needing to have her friend Ashley drive for hours to come massage her feet.

I missed this one.  When was it?  Because I don't think I'd forget if I'd seen her doing this.  Maybe they'll repeat it sometimes.

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8 minutes ago, auntjess said:

 

I missed this one.  When was it?  Because I don't think I'd forget if I'd seen her doing this.  Maybe they'll repeat it sometimes.

That was in S-1, ep. 7. If your cable provider allows it, you can watch previous seasons on the TLCgo app or TLC.com website.

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On 1/18/2018 at 11:54 AM, gigiann said:

she would be forced into seeing the truth.

She can't handle the truth!!  LOL  That used to be a popular sentence a while ago.  I can't remember where it came from. But it fits with twit.

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