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As soon as Meghan started talking to the Vice President and her voice quivered, that was it for me. Tears. Lots of tears.

It was wonderful having him on the show for almost the whole hour. I found him to be very inspirational and his love for his son just shone through. 

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Man I love me some JB!    Warning, dumb coments/questions ahead.  PS,  I cried too.  I thought it was very nice of him to acknowledge the servicewoman in the front row.  I thought it was very sweet to comfort MM and us all, with hope.

 

Ok I have a weird question.  Lately every time I see a picture, there's a little cube could be a tv, and it says click to verify.  What the heck does that mean? Anybody know?

Forgot my other weird question lol:  please excuse my ignorance on this..I know Presidents have a 2 term deal, but can they go after 2 terms, stay out for however many terms, and re-run for another 2 terms?

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20 minutes ago, fishsanwitt said:

It was wonderful having him on the show for almost the whole hour. I found him to be very inspirational and his love for his son just shone through. 

Oh man! First Jimmy Kimmel made me cry when he brought his baby on his show the other night; when he broke down, so did I. And now I have Biden who I know will break me. Must make sure I have my tissues handy.

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22 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I don't feel sorry for her; and that's because of what you stated, but I'll go a step further. I don't think she's a nice person; she continues to act like she's the authority on all things, and that doesn't go away because her dad has cancer. HE has cancer; she does not. And at the risk of sounding callous, and this is probably a bad analogy, but if someone isn't a nice person and they get sick, that doesn't automatically make them nice. They're jerks who also got sick.  She's done nothing, nothing to show ME that she's at all relatable, or what her actual thoughts/opinions are, or proven to me she's capable of critical thinking.

And to go one further, did anyone catch this.......right before he pulled up MM to hug,, she was all flustered and trying to say for all the cancer survivors...that whole scene bugged me for some reason ,, I just am out on whether she was sincere or not, but becz thats what 'youre supposed to say'

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For me there is no doubt that Meghan is having a hard time dealing with her father's illness and Joe's appearance was a painful reminder to her that John's days are numbered. I can't believe she was using this to garner sympathy for herself. I believe she was completely sincere in her emotions today. 

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It was moving because Joe is a sweet kind hearted politician that is needed in Washington. What killed me was he said his son didn't want to to know statistics and was to going to hold on to hope. My husband knew the devastating  statistics ( it's out there everywhere) and being an engineer said there no reason he couldn't be on  the right side of statistics.  In order to go through a cancer with almost no survival I thing hope is only way you can carry on to get through each day. 

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20 minutes ago, Haleth said:

For me there is no doubt that Meghan is having a hard time dealing with her father's illness and Joe's appearance was a painful reminder to her that John's days are numbered. I can't believe she was using this to garner sympathy for herself. I believe she was completely sincere in her emotions today. 

I hope so Haleth, I do think so.  She did good lasting long as she did before crying. I lost it too.

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28 minutes ago, Tammee said:

I know Presidents have a 2 term deal, but can they go after 2 terms, stay out for however many terms, and re-run for another 2 terms?

No. They can finish out another President's term if they are VP - and they can be elected on their own for two terms, but that's it. It's a relatively recent development, since FDR was elected four times. (LBJ finished JFK's remaining term, and was elected on his own once, and could have run again, but chose not to.)

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1 hour ago, Tammee said:

And to go one further, did anyone catch this.......right before he pulled up MM to hug,, she was all flustered and trying to say for all the cancer survivors...that whole scene bugged me for some reason ,, I just am out on whether she was sincere or not, but becz thats what 'youre supposed to say'

She said- This isn't just about me, she didnt want that much* cancer* attention, I know people like her, that cant let go..others can. I felt for her, and it didn't bug me at all. Because who knows what's happening behind the scenes at home? none of us..that's why it got to me

 

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He's had a lifetime of success and tragedy, all growing him to be the class act he is today

I agree 100%

1 hour ago, Haleth said:

For me there is no doubt that Meghan is having a hard time dealing with her father's illness and Joe's appearance was a painful reminder to her that John's days are numbered. I can't believe she was using this to garner sympathy for herself. I believe she was completely sincere in her emotions today. 

They are bubbling right under the surface, I think we all know what  that's like 

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2 minutes ago, athousandclowns said:

It was moving because Joe is a sweet kind hearted politician that is needed in Washington. What killed me was he said his son didn't want to to know statistics and was to going to hold on to hope. My husband knew the devastating  statistics ( it's out there everywhere) and being an engineer said there no reason he couldn't be on  the right side of statistics.  In order to go through a cancer with almost no survival I thing hope is only way you can carry on to get through each day. 

Or be prepared to exit your body.  I have a friend who embraced the fact that she was going to die very soon.  She was open to surviving, of course, but wanted to be at peace with either outcome.   She did a stellar job.  She chose upbeat music to play at her memorial gathering that was held in her daughters home. Her life was celebrated. 

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7 minutes ago, Wings said:

Or be prepared to exit your body.  I have a friend who embraced the fact that she was going to die very soon.  She was open to surviving, of course, but wanted to be at peace with either outcome.   She did a stellar job.  She chose upbeat music to play at her memorial gathering that was held in her daughters home. Her life was celebrated. 

I admire that so much and I read so many eastern books about accepting ( let's face it our culture does  not) 

my husband also worked almost 3 weeks before dying. He said it was for health/ medical benifits but I think it also gave him a sense of normal for him.  Joe's son was too young  joes had too much heartbreak in his life and just gave support to her. 

Its early Christmas and I'm "joyful " too bye bye Omarosa. Yes I Hope  HR walked her out with her cardboard box full of her crap that was filtered through first. 

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2 hours ago, athousandclowns said:

I admire that so much and I read so many eastern books about accepting ( let's face it our culture does  not) 

my husband also worked almost 3 weeks before dying. He said it was for health/ medical benifits but I think it also gave him a sense of normal for him.  Joe's son was too young  joes had too much heartbreak in his life and just gave support to her. 

Its early Christmas and I'm "joyful " too bye bye Omarosa. Yes I Hope  HR walked her out with her cardboard box full of her crap that was filtered through first. 

The secret service escorted her out.

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I'm sorry but Meghan continues to be the very definition of an entitled snowflake.  I did love that she was wrong about Roy Moore winning because she was very smug in past show about him winning and acting like she was such an expert.  Today she kind of had to admit she was very surprised, but I don't like how now the other women such as Sara/Sunny ask for Meghan's view as if Meghan is some all knowing person of wisdom.  And yes it's horrible that her father has cancer, but I think falling apart about it on national tv isn't exactly a good thing especially for the parent going through cancer.  My late mom had cancer, and the last thing I did was fall apart around her because the focus wasn't on me, but on her and not making her worry about how I was handling it when her focus was on dealing with cancer.  So I guess that's why I don't really feel that much sympathy for Meghan because she's making it about her and not her father...imho.

Also, I did love having Joe Biden on the show and he was a wonderful guest.  It's nice when guests are on for longer then one segment.

The news about Omarosa just proves that karma is supreme.  Joy didn't resort to going down to her level earlier this year, and I'm glad that Joy kind of got the last word in about her today.

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3 hours ago, ChicagoCita said:

No. They can finish out another President's term if they are VP - and they can be elected on their own for two terms, but that's it. It's a relatively recent development, since FDR was elected four times. (LBJ finished JFK's remaining term, and was elected on his own once, and could have run again, but chose not to.)

Kind of.  This is true if the term they're finishing is less than 2 years.  Then they can go on to their own two terms.  The maximum they can serve is 10 years total.  Were they to fill out a 2 year + 1 day term, they're eligible for only one more term.

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2 minutes ago, Tunia said:

This is true if the term they're finishing is less than 2 years.

Right, but I didn't want to get too involved. I think Tammee was really wondering if W or Obama could come back after being out of office and run again. Which is, sadly for me in the case of Obama, a big no. 

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Omarosa's departure is more laughable as further details come out.  It has apparently been in the works since her Starzilla moment when she brought her bridesmaids into the WH without advance permission for a bridal photo shoot, which rankled Kelly badly.  According to April Ryan, WH Press Correspondent, the following exchange was heard as she was being removed:

Omarosa:  "Does the President know about this?"

Kelly:  "Yeah, he signed off on it."

At that point, she attempted to get into the WH living quarters, and was soundly turned around.  It was apparent before, but quite confirmed now, that the gal has a highly inflated "View" of herself.

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b/c GHScorpioRules kindly corrected my Flynn/Kelly error!
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16 minutes ago, Tunia said:

Omarosa's departure is more laughable as further details come out.  It has apparently been in the works since her Starzilla moment when she brought her bridesmaids into the WH without advance permission for a bridal photo shoot, which rankled Flynn badly.  According to April Ryan, WH Press Correspondent, the following exchange was heard as she was being removed:

Omarosa:  "Does the President know about this?"

Flynn:  "Yeah, he signed off on it."

At that point, she attempted to get into the WH living quarters, and was soundly turned around.  It was apparent before, but quite confirmed now, that the gal has a highly inflated "View" of herself.

I've always been baffled how she has continued to remain in the public eye.  She is just so awful in every way.  Maybe this will be what finally gets rid of her.

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It’s interesting to me that Meghan talks about division and Biden and McCain are good friends.  I LOL,when joe said McCain got mad at him and said get the hell off the ticket.   I really think Meghan has some interesting stories about growing up around all these high powered people. Not sure what she can share.   

Was wondering if she was friends with Bo?

totally lover Joe Biden.   My very conservative dad once said to me he had nothing bad to say about Biden.  That’s the best compliment he ever gave a Democratic LOL. 

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3 hours ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

The news about Omarosa just proves that karma is supreme.  Joy didn't resort to going down to her level earlier this year, and I'm glad that Joy kind of got the last word in about her today.

HUZZAH!    Don't let the door hit.....       She was a lying despicable "character" on "The Apprentice, and Donald Trump's constant promotion of her and her persona was sickening--for fourteen* years!  I wonder if she would have become a better person had she been able to do some self-assessment and become an asset to society (without Trumpcare).   Can you IMAGINE having to work with some entitled do-nothing self-promoter like her?  There ARE people who need to lose their jobs (HARD) for the sake of peace, coworkers, and simply getting the job done.   (No one in the White House seemed to know what her job was anyway.)

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I just wanted to join the chorus and say Joe Biden is one terrific human being.  The way he came over & took Meghan's hand and was so gentle & fatherly with her, left me in tears.  And its the 1st time I think Meghan was authentic and cried genuine tears, I actually felt sorry for her having lost my Dad to cancer when he was a young man.  Mr. Biden's thoughtful analysis of the state of the Nation was eloquent and true.  He has dealt with the tragedies of his life in a positive manner.  Loved the photos of Joe & Barack together...what a Bromance!  But, as far as Joe running in 2020, I really Not keen on the idea.  He is too old(and I'm a Senior Citizen myself :) )  I think the Democratic Party needs to nominate a young person with new ideas to win back the White House. I liked Joe's mention of Sen. Kamala Harris from CA.  I liked that Joe was on for the majority of the segments and they were not rushing through the interview like a lot of their interviews are.

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I was happy Biden mentioned Kamala Harris as well. I'm a senior as well and could see her as VP and I know she and Biden would work well together as did Obama and Biden. I was very happy to see MM was not tribal at all during the interview.

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4 hours ago, NeverLate said:

I hate anyone losing their job, even her..

She was apparently trying to force her way into the residential section of the White House.  She's lucky she wasn't shot.

3 hours ago, susieq147 said:

I've always been baffled how she has continued to remain in the public eye.  She is just so awful in every way.  Maybe this will be what finally gets rid of her.

She has been voted one of the most hated reality tv contestants of all time.

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8 hours ago, ChicagoCita said:

No. They can finish out another President's term if they are VP - and they can be elected on their own for two terms, but that's it. It's a relatively recent development, since FDR was elected four times. (LBJ finished JFK's remaining term, and was elected on his own once, and could have run again, but chose not to.)

Interesting. Thanks for the 411

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Years ago, I once heard a famous broadcaster describe Whoopi as someone who knew how to put a stop to an interesting conversation. He seemed perplexed that she was the one assigned to the task of moderating a panel. His comment came back to me today while watching this morning's episode. Sunny asked a really interesting (and important) question about why college educated white women have continued to support candidates like Roy Moore in such high numbers. Whoopi responds that people saw Moore's wife on television and perhaps were going to vote for him but decided not to. WTF. But they did, Whoopi, they did. Way to shut down the conversation. No one had a chance to say anything else and Megan wanted to respond.

 

UGH. 

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4 hours ago, ChicagoCita said:

Right, but I didn't want to get too involved. I think Tammee was really wondering if W or Obama could come back after being out of office and run again. Which is, sadly for me in the case of Obama, a big no. 

Thanks Everybody for the education its been really interesting.  I always felt if I could go back to school for one class, it would be history.  I find it so fascinating now and totally blew it off then. What got me thinking about this was a couple of guys talking at work during the time of the George W election and they were saying there was some obscure law that said 'at times of war' a sitting president could basically cancel an election I guess until said war is over.  I do not know if it exists, just that it got me thinking.

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2 minutes ago, Miss Slay said:

Years ago, I once heard a famous broadcaster describe Whoopi as someone who knew how to put a stop to an interesting conversation. He seemed perplexed that she was the one assigned to the task of moderating a panel. His comment came back to me today while watching this morning's episode. Sunny asked a really interesting (and important) question about why college educated white women have continued to support candidates like Roy Moore in such high numbers. Whoopi responds that people saw Moore's wife on television and perhaps were going to vote for him but decided not to. WTF. But they did, Whoopi, they did. Way to shut down the conversation. No one had a chance to say anything else and Megan wanted to respond.

 

UGH. 

This. Made me scream at the tv.

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30 minutes ago, Miss Slay said:

Years ago, I once heard a famous broadcaster describe Whoopi as someone who knew how to put a stop to an interesting conversation.

Glad to be reminded of this.   Those of us who gripe about are are probably still in the minority.

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41 minutes ago, Miss Slay said:

Sunny asked a really interesting (and important) question about why college educated white women have continued to support candidates like Roy Moore in such high numbers. Whoopi responds that people saw Moore's wife on television and perhaps were going to vote for him but decided not to. WTF. But they did, Whoopi, they did. Way to shut down the conversation. No one had a chance to say anything else and Megan wanted to respond.

 

UGH. 

Yes, thanks for reminding me. Sunny was asking why white women would vote for Moore, and Whoopi seemed to be answering why they would vote for Jones. But her answer was so rambling and convoluted, by the time she was done there was no opportunity to correct her.

Whoopi also has such a hard time with names, it's often hard to follow her. She often refers to people as "the guy" and "the other guy." 

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17 minutes ago, backformore said:

She often refers to people as "the guy" and "the other guy." 

This irks me no end.  I dislike Trump intensely, but I wish she'd indicate she's talking about Trump in some other way than saying "the reality show star" or "the guy in the White House."  For heaven's sake, just say "the President" if you don't want to say his name.  I just think there are a lot of casual viewers out there who, if they're not paying close attention, will miss who she's talking about. 

 

Here's a nice picture from today.

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3 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

This irks me no end.  I dislike Trump intensely, but I wish she'd indicate she's talking about Trump in some other way than saying "the reality show star" or "the guy in the White House."  For heaven's sake, just say "the President" if you don't want to say his name.  I just think there are a lot of casual viewers out there who, if they're not paying close attention, will miss who she's talking about.  

When I started tuning in, I had no idea she was talking about Trump, and quite frankly, she comes across as super petty ,kinda like he is.Just say 45, but the reality star etc, stupid imho.

 

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She was apparently trying to force her way into the residential section of the White House.  She's lucky she wasn't shot.

I heard, plus I had no idea Omarosa had said that to Joy. I guess I was wrong to say I felt sorry she lost her job!

Btw, I loved  Meghan's tweet..suck it Bannon! I missed the start of the show.

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23 minutes ago, Catnip said:

When Whoopi interrupts the conversation with "Here's the thing....people are saying, hey!" ...I subconsciously mute her 5 minute rambling rant. I never know what her point is and she appears to be getting worse!  I do think Whoopi would be better suited as circus Ringmaster -- something in the entertainment field, but not moderator. 

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I'm thinking I don't/can't trust Meghan - she was so adamant Moore would win over the past week and then today just blew that off. She is hardly a political pundit/analyst to me. All I want from her is a view - like the rest of the panel - not a lecture from someone trying to teach because it is the only and right way to think in her opinion.

I love how sensitive Sunny is to immediately pick up on how Biden wanted to switch seats to console Meghan.

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1 hour ago, maggiemae said:

I'm thinking I don't/can't trust Meghan - she was so adamant Moore would win over the past week and then today just blew that off. She is hardly a political pundit/analyst to me. All I want from her is a view - like the rest of the panel - not a lecture from someone trying to teach because it is the only and right way to think in her opinion.

I love how sensitive Sunny is to immediately pick up on how Biden wanted to switch seats to console Meghan.

Well, she did admit she was caught off guard by the win, but she was happy about it, hence the Bannon tweet..

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MM blaming Bannon for Moore's run on several occasions on the View is her deflection from the GOP supporting him, IMHO.  

The awesomeness of Joe Biden in all ways, and with his graciousness towards MM doesn't give her a pass for being WRONG, WRONG, WRONG predicting  Moore to won, because of the arrogance of her self-inflated experience in politics. 

I so wish Joy or Sunny or Whoops would say once  that they need to "explain"  the Dems view to MM.  

We get it. The hosts (are too polite or have been warned not to confront the entitled snowflake),   and "viewers"  watch/read the news,  have "friends" in many places, and understand the Repub/conservative mindset, MM. Your poor attempts to explain anything shows a serious lack of communication/ spin skills, not enlightening in any way. 

MM needs to be with her dad now, and learn as much as she can about diplomacy and grace. 

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Move on, MM.
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For all of Joe Biden's faults/mistakes, he's still one of the humblest, most decent & classiest people in American politics & the world, as he showed with MM. MM works my last nerve 99% of the time, but as someone who has been a caregiver, I know what she's going through.

If anyone knows how MM feels it's Biden & his compassion for her & her father made her seem human to me for the first time. The "Suck it, Bannon" tweet was funny, too.

Joy's response to Omarosa's getting fired was much classier than she deserves.

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17 hours ago, Medicine Crow said:

Just when I thought I was finished blubbering, Joe talked about someone yelling from the crowd (paraphrasing) "I served with your son & would follow Beau Biden anywhere, SIR!!"  Gawd, I was done fer!!!

I've heard him tell that story before. It still made tear up again. I respect that he realized in that moment,  he couldn't run for president.  He wasn't ready.

I watched some clips on Facebook of JB talking with audience.  He is just an amazing man. 

Loved Joy finding her "joy" regarding  that  awful Omarosa. She was just awful to Joy the last time on The View.

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Yesterday's show was one of the best I've seen in awhile. Damn it, uncle Joe had me cutting onions - the tears were flowing! I agree with all the sentiments expressed in this thread. He is such an intelligent, warm, insightful and wise man. I don't see how anybody could dislike him, regardless of politics. I understand why he didn't run completely but wow, it's hard to not think about what could have been...

When Sunny and Joe switched seats, I almost lost it. 

I LOVED Joy's comment about getting "joy" because Omarosa is no longer in the white house. She didn't have to degrade Omarosa, her witty comment was enough.

1 hour ago, imjagain said:

I watched some clips on Facebook of JB talking with audience.  He is just an amazing man. 

 

I watched that, too. I wish "The View" would release more little behind-the-scene clips like that but I think they released this one in particular to further highlight what a genuinely caring man uncle Joe is. That Obama/Biden bromance is everything and I giggled when he talked about all the internet memes being true. 

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10 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

This irks me no end.  I dislike Trump intensely, but I wish she'd indicate she's talking about Trump in some other way than saying "the reality show star" or "the guy in the White House."  For heaven's sake, just say "the President" if you don't want to say his name.  I just think there are a lot of casual viewers out there who, if they're not paying close attention, will miss who she's talking about. 

I agree with this, it may be confusing for people who randomly tune in to know who she's talking about. 

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